Makati

[Blanquiceleste]

Plan be seemed to have plenty of attractive girls with good music, the girls danced on stage with more than the Bangkok shuffle (they were doing synchronized dances, so they must have a ladyboy trainer here too) they worked the crowd, and the guys around me all seemed like they were hitting it off with their girls.

Pinays love to sing and dance and play music and put on a show. It is in their DNA. And many of them are pretty good at it too. They derive genuine pleasure out of it, as opposed to the Thai girls who see it as simply another job.

I like Plan B too. They have some nice girls and a friendly atmosphere. I was there early one night when there were only a handful of customers. I was there waiting for my sweetie and I saw the girls on stage begin to dance just amongst themselves. They all had smiles and acted like no one else was in the bar. It looked so innocent and carefree, but at the same time, like a naughty sorority party. It was very cute.

I have had the exact same experience at PlanB once. I landed up there just after it had opened for the evening and there were no customers and just a handful of girls on stage. I had to wait nearly an hour before things got going, but I wasn't complaining. The girls were making jokes about me turning up so early, all in good fun.

[Member #4698]

Overall, I would say that Plan be has a much friendlier atmosphere. Kojax seriously felt like they were ignoring the non-Asian mongers. Bottoms was low energy (maybe just the wrong night). Plan be seemed to have plenty of attractive girls with good music, the girls danced on stage with more than the Bangkok shuffle (they were doing synchronized dances, so they must have a ladyboy trainer here too) they worked the crowd, and the guys around me all seemed like they were hitting it off with their girls. Good party atmosphere. Based on all of that, I would definitely go back to Plan be.

I like Plan B too. They have some nice girls and a friendly atmosphere. I was there early one night when there were only a handful of customers. I was there waiting for my sweetie and I saw the girls on stage begin to dance just amongst themselves. They all had smiles and acted like no one else was in the bar. It looked so innocent and carefree, but at the same time, like a naughty sorority party. It was very cute.

Kojax, which is owned by the same company as Plan B, has its moments too. Thurs, Friday, and Saturday night between 11 and 1am Kojax rocks with a lot of very sexy girls. The full contingent. There is barely an empty seat in the house. I never felt discriminated against in Kojax or XOXO, but it is true that XOXO is much more low key and quieter than Kojax. They have the same girls, but not as many due to the fact that it is a much smaller bar and they employ a rotation system to fill it with girls. I would estimate that 25% to 30% of the girls at Kojax on a Friday night will be at XOXO on any given night, so unless you are talking about a specific girl, you will never know which 25% are going to be on call. Ha Ha.

The last time I was in town, I met a sweet little looker in Kojax and I barfined her. We had a good time and I liked her so we exchanged Viber profiles. I told her I would text her in a couple of days so we could get together again. That was on a Friday night. Monday afternoon I texted and we made plans to rendezvous at XOXO. It was her turn to be there so I had to pay her barfine. The difference in the atmosphere and energy level between the too bars with fundamentally the same group of girls was amazing.

[ShinyCrazy]

Went to XOXO first. I asked at the door about Kojax, and the bouncer said it was only open Thursday through Saturday, but that XOXO has the exact same girls. I left. I walked down the street, avoiding the Cialis salesmen, and proceeded to enter Bottoms first. It was 9 pm and very quiet. The girls were not topless and were simply standing on stage. Only saw one girl out of 8-10 girls that was a possibility. One older (35+) girl tried to chat me up, but I wasn't interested. Waited about an hour. Drank one beer and left.

Went back to XOXO. About 20 girls on stage with a ladyboy leading the dancing. Overall, the selection was pretty good, but I would hardly say it was the best of the Philippines. Apparently, the ladyboy is the choreographer and teaches them how to dance. Perfect job for a ladyboy, IMHO. Interviewed one girl and bought her a drink. Asked her about barfining, at which point she said she was waiting on another customer to arrive. Crap. Watched second choice girl walk over to the big table of Asian mongers. Crap. Interviewed third choice and she sat next to me drinking her ladydrink but no chemistry. Practically ignored me. Crap. Not to brag, but I am seriously often mistaken for a movie star, so getting the cold shoulder from multiple girls in the same bar usually means something to me, like the girls only want an Asian monger. I spoke to the mamasan briefly to let her know that I was planning to barfine and my first two choices weren't interested, so I'm leaving.

Went over to Plan be, where I was successful last time. Immediately set upon by 4 girls. They politely left after I chose a girl to interview. She was a hottie, but wouldn't budge on BBBJ. Interviewed another girl, same problem. Finally, my third choice said yes to BBBJ / CIM, DATY, FS, DFK, 2 pops 3 hours for 4000 (plus 3500 barfine). This is hard work sometimes.

By this time it was after midnight. Headed back to the room and had a good session. Overall, I would say that Plan be has a much friendlier atmosphere. Kojax seriously felt like they were ignoring the non-Asian mongers. Bottoms was low energy (maybe just the wrong night). Plan be seemed to have plenty of attractive girls with good music, the girls danced on stage with more than the Bangkok shuffle (they were doing synchronized dances, so they must have a ladyboy trainer here too) they worked the crowd, and the guys around me all seemed like they were hitting it off with their girls. Good party atmosphere. Based on all of that, I would definitely go back to Plan be.

[Turgid]

"BTW, I think that DATY divides mongers into two categories. I am the kind of guy who always wants / needs DATY. It isn't because it makes me feel good, it is because I want the girl to feel good. It shows her that I recognize that she is a real human being. Likewise, I've noticed that girls who refuse DATY are the coldest and most emotionally distant providers. ".

Best statements ever come come across in ISG forums. Kudos to you. I agree with every word of it. I love DATY. I learnt a small trick from a Pinoy. Keep hot water and an Ice cube. Gurgle mouth full of hot water, spit most of it retains a little in your mouth. With dribbling water and hot tongue gently caress the labia majora and then the labia minora. You can hear the letting out a gasp at the same time widening her thighs. Now is the turn for the ice cube. Alternate or without a pattern to bring a surprise element. Blind folding the girl will guarantee juices flowing out. Additionally tweaking the nips heightens the pleasure.

Pure sex is ' Giving' and ' Taking' the pleasure. And the girl is like a beautiful violin. The more you tune her the better the music / performance will be. Three cheers to cunnilingus fan club.

Many decades ago I saw a Masters and Johnson video on how to guarantee a positive response to DATY. I have used the technique very few times because it takes time (at least 20 minutes) and requires a certain tongue action around the clit. My first subject was a very cold hooker. After 20 minutes she was writhing in ecstasy. I have since discovered it is 100% successful but very tiring on the tongue. I will only do it to girls I really really like.

[Member #4698]

Fire & Ice is the way BBBJ's are performed in Macau Saunas. It is pleasurable. The sauna girls also perform rim jobs and cat lick your entire body. It is all part of a normal sauna session and it should be noted that Macau Saunas have some really pretty girls performing these acts. The only issue is that the price is astronomical. Read some of my trip reports in the Macau Sauna forum to find out more.

[Sammon]

"BTW, I think that DATY divides mongers into two categories. I am the kind of guy who always wants / needs DATY. It isn't because it makes me feel good, it is because I want the girl to feel good. It shows her that I recognize that she is a real human being. Likewise, I've noticed that girls who refuse DATY are the coldest and most emotionally distant providers. ".

Best statements ever come come across in ISG forums. Kudos to you. I agree with every word of it. I love DATY. I learnt a small trick from a Pinoy. Keep hot water and an Ice cube. Gurgle mouth full of hot water, spit most of it retains a little in your mouth. With dribbling water and hot tongue gently caress the labia majora and then the labia minora. You can hear the letting out a gasp at the same time widening her thighs. Now is the turn for the ice cube. Alternate or without a pattern to bring a surprise element. Blind folding the girl will guarantee juices flowing out. Additionally tweaking the nips heightens the pleasure.

Pure sex is ' Giving' and ' Taking' the pleasure. And the girl is like a beautiful violin. The more you tune her the better the music / performance will be. Three cheers to cunnilingus fan club.

It is known as ' Fire and Ice ' in America. It is used exclusively by girls during BBBJ. I seldom do DATY with random girls. Especially girls selling sex.

[RainMania]

"BTW, I think that DATY divides mongers into two categories. I am the kind of guy who always wants / needs DATY. It isn't because it makes me feel good, it is because I want the girl to feel good. It shows her that I recognize that she is a real human being. Likewise, I've noticed that girls who refuse DATY are the coldest and most emotionally distant providers. ".

Best statements ever come come across in ISG forums. Kudos to you. I agree with every word of it. I love DATY. I learnt a small trick from a Pinoy. Keep hot water and an Ice cube. Gurgle mouth full of hot water, spit most of it retains a little in your mouth. With dribbling water and hot tongue gently caress the labia majora and then the labia minora. You can hear the letting out a gasp at the same time widening her thighs. Now is the turn for the ice cube. Alternate or without a pattern to bring a surprise element. Blind folding the girl will guarantee juices flowing out. Additionally tweaking the nips heightens the pleasure.

Pure sex is ' Giving' and ' Taking' the pleasure. And the girl is like a beautiful violin. The more you tune her the better the music / performance will be. Three cheers to cunnilingus fan club.

Apparently the girl came from DATY, and still tried to pull a runner on him. So much for giving and taking passionate sex.

At least he insisted on getting his money's worth or cutting her pay if she didn't want to live up to her end of the deal. That's what he deserves Kudos for IMO. The more guys grow a spine and stand their ground, the less girls will try bullshit like this.

[DxbStallion]

"BTW, I think that DATY divides mongers into two categories. I am the kind of guy who always wants / needs DATY. It isn't because it makes me feel good, it is because I want the girl to feel good. It shows her that I recognize that she is a real human being. Likewise, I've noticed that girls who refuse DATY are the coldest and most emotionally distant providers. "

Best statements ever come come across in ISG forums. Kudos to you. I agree with every word of it. I love DATY. I learnt a small trick from a Pinoy. Keep hot water and an Ice cube. Gurgle mouth full of hot water, spit most of it retains a little in your mouth. With dribbling water and hot tongue gently caress the labia majora and then the labia minora. You can hear the letting out a gasp at the same time widening her thighs. Now is the turn for the ice cube. Alternate or without a pattern to bring a surprise element. Blind folding the girl will guarantee juices flowing out. Additionally tweaking the nips heightens the pleasure.

Pure sex is ' Giving' and ' Taking' the pleasure. And the girl is like a beautiful violin. The more you tune her the better the music / performance will be. Three cheers to cunnilingus fan club.

[Thampi62]

My go to place in the daytime is Abaca Spa. They offer a standard good massage plus HJ for 1200,2000 with 2 girls and 2000 for 1 1/2 or 2 hour massage. I have never been short timed there.

Anything else is definitely not allowed and touching is also off the table.

Every '10th trip is free if you get the loyalty card. You are assigned a therapist and not allowed to pick.

I like to go just after 8 AM as that is the shift change and you get a fresh and rested girl.

Last month I visited Abaca spa in Antipolo. It took some time to locate the spa. They have only a small paper poster on the wall showing it upstairs. I went at 4. 30 PM and girls available were not free. So I fixed an appointment at 8 Pm and came back. Two hour massage was excellent. They have a branch in AC but I couldn't locate it in google map.

So better take a prior appointment in Abaca spa in Antipolo for their wonderful two hour massage.

Regards.

[CodeName47]

2. Jakarta. Hot girls! I really am attracted to these girls. Prettier than Pinays IMHO. The city sucks, but nightlife is great and although there are no Go Go's to speak of anymore. CGK is a bordello town. A ST bordello session will cost anywhere from $20 to $144 depending on the Bordello (Classic to Malio Club).

Very nice comparison.

Singapore for sure lost its charm. I had a bit of fun in KL but to me Jakarta is a great place and unspoiled place for night life (yet).

This. Jakarta if you know how to choose the girls and right venue. As rightly said, it is a bordello town. Surprisingly you may find a cute girl on even a cheap one. Alternatively, If you know how to approach locals in other areas in Indonesia, it will get addictive. I cut down my punting budget in Melbourne these days.

I had been to Manila last year for work. I couldn't enjoy much. May be learning ropes.

[ShinyCrazy]

My go to place in the daytime is Abaca Spa.

Thank you. This is precisely the sort of help I was hoping for. Abacca was already on my list. It has now moved to the top, assuming the volcano air quality allows me to be outside.

[Kabul Guy]

Any suggestions for daytime action in Makati?....

My go to place in the daytime is Abaca Spa. They offer a standard good massage plus HJ for 1200,2000 with 2 girls and 2000 for 1 1/2 or 2 hour massage. I have never been short timed there.

Anything else is definitely not allowed and touching is also off the table.

Every '10th trip is free if you get the loyalty card. You are assigned a therapist and not allowed to pick.

I like to go just after 8 AM as that is the shift change and you get a fresh and rested girl.

[Mr Enternational]

I realize that I am paying for an illusion, just like seeing a movie. Since I am not a robot, I can feel real human emotions while watching pictures on a screen.

If a working girl is a good actor, I will feel a human connection to her.

That is where you have the game fucked up. You are paying to stick your dick into some pussy, not all those illusions and shit. Get it together man!

Are you getting a human connection when you pay the service charge for the waitress to bring your food and she smiles and tells you to enjoy your meal?

[Mr Enternational]

Question. Is there a forum for providers (in a parallel universe) where she posts about our encounter, and she receives the same advice?

That is like asking do resturants have reverse yelps where they can go and rate the customers. When she describes ShinyCrazy on the site is she talking about the one from Australia or Canada? The one with the beard or the one with red hair? The one that does not drink or the one who is married and likes 3somes with his wife? There are 8 million ShinyCrazys moving about this planet. Pretty easy for us because most of these chicks are static, so it is easy to talk about Mary Jane Rottencrotch with the A cups that works at Kojax. But mongers are in and out of bars by the ton day in and day out, just like customers are in and out of McDonald's.

Why is it always the customers fault when the provider doesn't bother to find out the customers expectations? She asked me nothing and mentioned no limitations other than time.

By the way, I do partially subscribe to the "leave it a mystery" club. If everything is completely spelled out in excruciating detail, the magic is lost.

Because the saying goes "BUYER beware". There are tons of sellers around the world knowingly and unknowingly selling lemons and bullshit. Before agreeing to fork over your money, YOU better be sure of what you will get for it. They already agreed to the money they would accept, so as long as it is not counterfeit what would the seller care? For them, the less questions you ask the better, so they can always say they would have never agreed to that or as they do in some places tell you it will cost more for that.

[ShinyCrazy]

Why is it the customers fault?, because you as the purchaser are responsible for your own safety, hence expressions like buyer beware or caveat emptor and is a applied legal principle going back hundreds of years in the English legal system. If you choose not to look after your own interest choosing to "leave it a mystery" then you should expect more disappointment in the future as this hobby will only get more competitive. You are going to working girls where they have SEX with you for money, you are expecting the magic of what, LOVE?

That seems pretty cynical to me.

I realize that I am paying for an illusion, just like seeing a movie. Since I am not a robot, I can feel real human emotions while watching pictures on a screen.

If a working girl is a good actor, I will feel a human connection to her. If not, I am better off financially by buying a rubber sex doll.

If I am especially lucky, it is more than acting or illusion. It isn't "love", but there is the tiny spark of a real human connection, like a first date. I've experienced that much more when mongering in South America and Spain than in non-Spanish Europe and Asia. When it happens, it is magic and I make plans to repeat with that provider.

BTW, I think that DATY divides mongers into two categories. I am the kind of guy who always wants / needs DATY. It isn't because it makes me feel good, it is because I want the girl to feel good. It shows her that I recognize that she is a real human being. Likewise, I've noticed that girls who refuse DATY are the coldest and most emotionally distant providers.

If I were the kind of guy who only wanted to pump and dump, I wouldn't care about that human connection. It would be strictly a commercial event for me.