Rio de Janeiro Reports

[George T Stagg]

I've not been back in a long time but these places are so hard core that they may not survive. As I understand it, you should be looking for "Prive"'s and massage places spread all around Copa and beyond. Also there's a site https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/a...rio-de-janeiro where girls prices are are $R100 and up.

Thanks for this. Booked a contractor off of this site for tomorrow. Really appreciate it.

[George T Stagg]

It is American Bar because it has American prices. There are already reports on these places if you read the forum. Did you see any locals inside of the place? They are clip joints and you got clipped.

Why do guys insist on buying shit to cozy up to hookers? You won't catch me buying them drinks, and purfume, and cell phones and shit. Sex for money is simple enough and is all that is required.

You buy drinks for normal chicks in hopes of getting them to fuck. Hookers are already there to fuck. How did this drink buying ritual spill over like that?

I'm reading a lot of criticism, and zero helpful advice.

Maybe provide some constructive ideas or places that aren't clip joints?

The problem wasn't buying mimosas for the girl. The house wants that, I get it, and I enjoyed out chat. The problem was the host cooking the bill so that they ended up 180 are. And I posted it here so people know not to go there.

The only reason I looked for New Munich / Casablanca in the first place is that it was recommended as a cheaper alternative on this very board a month ago. That's how I found out about it. Precisely by reading the reports.

[George T Stagg]

Any gringo (unless he looks like a native) who says he hasn't been there, is lying.

Thanks ET. I did say that these weren't Brazilian prices, and they tried to act offended that I would suggest they were worth less (this is Casablanca). Anyway, I knew this wasn't going to be solvable.

Speaking Portuguese would be a huge asset, I get that and that makes sense. I'm just glad that so far I've found Eden spa which was super fair to me. I'm not yet the kind of veteran that can make his own luck. But I'm working on it!

[Mr Enternational]

I found what I thought was a lower rent place by walking into the "no cover" bar Cafe Sensoo "American Bar" which is across the street from the Hilton Copacabana. For an American bar, none of the girls spoke English (fair enough, it's their country, but the only thing American in that bar was the bourbon). I chatted using Google Translate with Patricia, who was very nice. She wasn't as sexy as Jennifer but I would have gone with her if the gringo tax wasn't still following me. Again with the goddamned champagne routine. Who falls for this shit?

It is American Bar because it has American prices. There are already reports on these places if you read the forum. Did you see any locals inside of the place? They are clip joints and you got clipped.

Why do guys insist on buying shit to cozy up to hookers? You won't catch me buying them drinks, and purfume, and cell phones and shit. Sex for money is simple enough and is all that is required.

You buy drinks for normal chicks in hopes of getting them to fuck. Hookers are already there to fuck. How did this drink buying ritual spill over like that?

[Therookie1]

Hello everyone!

Any help on recommendations on best places to go to for the ladies and the places to avoid. I know about 4 x 4, Centaurus, and Dolce vita. But any other places to go to? Night clubs, termas, guest friendly hotels, etc. We have no issue paying to play. Just hate getting involved in the gringo trap. I know last time we went to Dolce Vita they tried to fuck us with the extra drinks LOL the first night, but then we just spoke with one of the bouncers and he got everything sorted out so when we came back it wouldn't be an issue. Last time I was in Rio was in 2013 and had an absolute blast. Just want to know where to action is at. I'm sure a lot has changed since then or not? This will be for a bachelor party in April and we will be staying for almost a week hopefully near the Copacabana area. Thanks!

[Exec Talent]

Well, I post this so some of you can get a great laugh.

Any gringo (unless he looks like a native) who says he hasn't been there, is lying. I remember ordering a caipirinha from a kiosk or even a coke from a juice bar and getting charged more than the going rate. As I became friends with some of the girls we used to play a game. They would hide and I would go up and order a beverage. Walk away and hide and then they would order the same thing for a much lower price. Used to be a regular at Carretão on Rua Ronald de Carvalho. I always had to call the manager over to correct the bill. One time under suggestions, I wrote andão mais preços gringo (no more gringo prices).

I have gotten to know the owner of Casablanca. I even did a dupla there with a non-GDP and GDP when they were first experimenting with onsite service. Usually a door person or even one of the touts speaks some English. My suggestion is to tell them you are not an idiot. I have seen the same girl's drink game played at King George in Frankfurt, Germany. Hot girls out on the street leading guys on. Nothing actually goes on inside other than guys being suckered into buying expensive drinks then being strong-armed to pay.

My advice in Rio is at the first sign of gringo prices, call them on it. If they say that is the way it is, then walk. These days, since I am fluent in Portuguese, I ask doormen if I can go in and look around without paying. If that is not a problem (usual case) then it is a good sign they want to do legitimate business. I have met some superstars at these places. These girls go from place to place like Casablanca, Dolce Vita so there is no reason to pay a house premium. Take her to a love motel or your place. One word of warning, if you do. Unlike a termas where the girls are usually well-behaved because they want to come back tomorrow, you will be on your own. Another good reason not to drink too much. Keep your wits about you.

[Downandup]

I've not been back in a long time but these places are so hard core that they may not survive. As I understand it, you should be looking for "Prive"'s and massage places spread all around Copa and beyond. Also there's a site https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/a...rio-de-janeiro where girls prices are are $R100 and up.

[George T Stagg]

Well, I just got back from Eden spa, and I couldn't have had a more different experience than last night.

Straight up printed price list. 200 R for an hour. 220 with a card.

I spent an hour with Aloha. She was just what I needed. Sensual and 90% GFE, only missing DFK (she kissed on the lips but didn't seem super keen so I didn't push it since everything else was so good).

She didn't speak English (none of the girls did) but she made a fantastic effort to chat and everything was fine. I understand a little Portuguese and Spanish, so we managed.

Her massage was nice, but on the gentle side. That was fine for me but if you're looking for a deep tissue experience Aloha isn't that (to be fair to her I didn't request it to be harder). She was very good with hand massage, which I valued because I play guitar and my hand muscles are frequently in a state.

BJ was passionate with nice eye contact. Everything was covered, I don't expect (or want) otherwise in Brazil. But oral really isn't my thing, so I'm not really the one to review that.

The sex was anything BUT mechanical. She paid attention and got in harmony with my body language. Great.

So, what would I choose?

A) 220 for a square deal and very good service in a safe place that's customer oriented.

B) 150 + 100 temporary hotel for a street hooker with all the wild chances that involves.

C) 750-850 total for an hour at Casablanca or Sensoo, where everyone treats me like an asshole and tries to rip me off in one way or another every 15 min.

I think things are pretty clear so far.

I'll still check out Monte Carlo tonight, although I might just pay the cover (if there is one, I don't know yet) and hang out for an hour and figure out the operation there, as I might need some recovery time after Aloha.

[George T Stagg]

Well, I post this so some of you can get a great laugh.

Rio didn't treat me very well last night.

It was Sunday night, so things were understandably going to be slow, but I found Casablanca based on trying to find New Munich (Casablanca is the new name for New Munich). In retrospect it was hard not to find Casablanca since there are street pushers a block in every direction trying to hand out cards and walk you to the door. I suppose this should have been my first warning.

Anyway, I get to the front door and the gringo tax starts off right away. 100 R cover, with two "free drinks". I get inside and start talking to Jennifer with my rum and coke. I'm liking what I'm seeing and I'm on board (I knew she was going to be exceptional), and then the buy me champagne routine starts. I wasn't about to do it, but I had to ask - "how much is the champagne?" 550 are. Oh, and they have a cheaper option of 290 R. Yeah, fuck off.

Despite this disrespectful hustle, I was polite. I asked what they wanted for an hour with Jennifer. 500 R for the girl, and 250 R for the room rental. Add the door fee and that was going to be 850 R. I guess they thought they were in Switzerland or London?

I cut my losses right there and walked out without drinking my second drink.

I found what I thought was a lower rent place by walking into the "no cover" bar Cafe Sensoo "American Bar" which is across the street from the Hilton Copacabana. For an American bar, none of the girls spoke English (fair enough, it's their country, but the only thing American in that bar was the bourbon). I chatted using Google Translate with Patricia, who was very nice. She wasn't as sexy as Jennifer but I would have gone with her if the gringo tax wasn't still following me. Again with the goddamned champagne routine. Who falls for this shit? Anyway, they showed me a menu with a low price for a mimosa for Patricia. I don't really mind paying 10 bucks for a few drinks for her, since she's making an effort with the translator, etc. This was to end badly.

In the end when the rubber was to meet the road, it was going to be 400 R for an hour with Patricia and 100 R for the room. I said no thanks, I'll just pay for the drinks. One bourbon and two of P's Mimosas came to. Drumroll please. 220 R. I knew there was no point in arguing.

So, quite a night. 320 R and no sex, and treated like shit in two places.

Apparently Rio has not learned the old expression "You can shear a sheep many times, but skin him only once."

I think I will try Eden spa today, since massage parlors seem to be more up front and consistent with their pricing schedules. Honestly there is nothing I consider more disrespectful than the Gringo tax. You can call that naive if you like, I just want to pay the same price as the next guy. That's how it is in Europe.

So I have no idea how to establish with the locals that I'm not to be done that way.

If someone knows a place that is fair to North Americans (I'm Canadian) who speak English, please drop me a PM because I'm still here for a few more days, but pretty turned off based on last night.

Thinking also of trying Monte Carlo tonight. But it seems to be the pattern that any place that is "organized" with the whole setup seems to be hard wired to do the champagne sell and the whole routine.

Very disappointing, Rio.

[Sperto]

Anyone been to uruguaiana building 24?

Just to add, bring earplugs and don't touch the railings in the stairs.
P.S I would hardly call them cafés.

[Jingo10]

There is a section for for Rio hotels 😉 . Just saying.

Anyone been to uruguaiana building 24? Do the girls change daily? It's a cheap working girl house, 5 floors of naked and semi naked ladies available for about 60 rs for 30 minutes. There are cafes on each floor where you can chat and grab a beer. I was there on Friday and there were a couple of decent girls but it is not the most salubrious of places. But if you in the area it's worth a look around. The entrance is behind a kiosk and no charge to enter.

[The Cane]

My first mongering trip to Rio I stayed at the Rio Palace hotel which is now the Sofitel. At the time it was one of the nicest hotels in Copacabana, VIP's stayed there at the time. I was shocked that they didn't allow me to bring my new found love into my room as I never encountered this anywhere else in the world. Eventually in subsequent trips I found the Debret another old dump but great for mongering because of its policies and location much like the Rio Roiss. If I had been lucky enough on my first trip to choose the Debret and never knew that some hotels don't allow tutes and stayed there for 10 years or so I would think that hotels in Rio have no restrictions about tutes because it never happened to me. Then some new monger posts that he encountered an issue with bringing a tute into his room it's possible someone could say that's misinformation because it never happened to me ever.

Sure if you always stayed in one of the low end girl friendly hotels you may not know there are hotels that restrict. Now of course if you've been to Rio some 80 times months at a time you may have developed some relationships with the mangers or employees of hotels that restrict and they let you bring tutes in, that's a different thing than a new guy coming into town and encountering restrictions, his report is factual not misinformation and the norm.

I'm sorry, but it's not the norm. And I don't just stay in a bunch of "low end" hotels. I started with the Rio Roiss when I was new because I knew from the research that I had done that it would be a safe pick. But then with further research, I found that there were hotels all over town that were decent and where I would have zero problems bringing tutes in, and they weren't dumps either. I don't like to stay in dumps generally speaking. It's not misinformation to report that you may have had a problem at a particular hotel. But it is misinformation to say that it is a general issue in Rio. And it's also misinformation to suggest that you only avoid issues by staying in low end places. That's not true. I've been to Brazil too many times to know. And I have not even stated all of the places I had a room at because frankly I don't remember them all. I stayed at a very nice apartment-hotel a couple of times, but then went back to straight hotels because the place was kind of pricey. At the end of the day people need to figure it out for themselves. I have done what works for me. And no dumps mind you! They may not be the Copacabana Palace, but they sure the hell aren't dumpy either.

[Rio Bob]

My first mongering trip to Rio I stayed at the Rio Palace hotel which is now the Sofitel. At the time it was one of the nicest hotels in Copacabana, VIP's stayed there at the time. I was shocked that they didn't allow me to bring my new found love into my room as I never encountered this anywhere else in the world. Eventually in subsequent trips I found the Debret another old dump but great for mongering because of its policies and location much like the Rio Roiss. If I had been lucky enough on my first trip to choose the Debret and never knew that some hotels don't allow tutes and stayed there for 10 years or so I would think that hotels in Rio have no restrictions about tutes because it never happened to me. Then some new monger posts that he encountered an issue with bringing a tute into his room it's possible someone could say that's misinformation because it never happened to me ever.

Sure if you always stayed in one of the low end girl friendly hotels you may not know there are hotels that restrict. Now of course if you've been to Rio some 80 times months at a time you may have developed some relationships with the mangers or employees of hotels that restrict and they let you bring tutes in, that's a different thing than a new guy coming into town and encountering restrictions, his report is factual not misinformation and the norm.

[The Cane]

The Rio Roiss has been long gone. It was a good choice because of it's proximity to Help Disco and Hooker Beach. The rooms were large too and made for good sexual romping. I was fine for a mid-range choice. Room service would be bring a great selection of the free full breakfast to your room. The girls seem to like that in the morning. And yes, it was a good friendly.

However as an example, I would routinely book a room as a double. The night clerk would confirm I was not being charged extra, but they did track the guests each night. An aggressive day clerk, usually a woman, would try to charge me when I checked out for visitors during my stay. It was usually taken off my bill after a long discussion, but no one wants to deal with this the morning they are heading to the airport.

As a memory, I enjoyed the old Arpoador Inn. No problems with guests in a double room. It wasn't expensive and you could bang your friends while looking out at the ocean during the morning sunrise.

Expect that some hotel clerk or security guy to interpret the rules in their own way. Go with the flow. Stay cool. Maybe you need to flip a security guy an R$20 note.

Agree with what you say about the Rio Roiss, although I never had any of the billing issues you mention. When I stayed there, it was this older gentleman who always seemed to be at the desk day and night when I was doing my thing. Never gave me anything but a "knowing look" when I would have my attractive, blonde, Brazilian tutes on my arm LOL!

[WyattEarp]

The Rio Roiss has been long gone. It was a good choice because of it's proximity to Help Disco and Hooker Beach. The rooms were large too and made for good sexual romping. I was fine for a mid-range choice. Room service would be bring a great selection of the free full breakfast to your room. The girls seem to like that in the morning. And yes, it was a good friendly.

However as an example, I would routinely book a room as a double. The night clerk would confirm I was not being charged extra, but they did track the guests each night. An aggressive day clerk, usually a woman, would try to charge me when I checked out for visitors during my stay. It was usually taken off my bill after a long discussion, but no one wants to deal with this the morning they are heading to the airport.

As a memory, I enjoyed the old Arpoador Inn. No problems with guests in a double room. It wasn't expensive and you could bang your friends while looking out at the ocean during the morning sunrise.

Expect that some hotel clerk or security guy to interpret the rules in their own way. Go with the flow. Stay cool. Maybe you need to flip a security guy an R$20 note.