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[Member #4698]

Good post GrapeMan. While I do not think Thailand is a "bargain" anymore, it has not been that for at least 10 or 15 years, I do agree with your main point that LOS is still very very good. I prefer BKK & Pattaya over today's Phnom Penh (cheaper), AC & Cebu City (cheaper). For short visits under 2 or 3 weeks MNL (similar prices) and Jakarta (competitive prices) are very good, but these 2 cities are not as pleasant as BKK for longer stays. Sao Paulo is my favorite city outside of SE Asia and one could easily argue that the girls there are hotter than Thai girls. But Sao Paulo is not cheap either and I prefer the Thai Buddhist culture over any SA culture. Others are free to disagree.

[Member #4698]

The Good news: China has begun locking down those cities most affected by the new virus: "Wuhan to halt all outbound flights and trains as authorities try to stem spread of new pneumonia like illness ahead of Lunar New Year; death toll jumps to at least 17. And in addition to Wuhan, two more Chinese cities were put on lockdown by government authorities, expanding an unprecedented experiment to try to contain a fast-spreading virus that has killed at least 17 people and infected more than 500.

On Thursday, authorities in Huanggang, a city of 7. 5 million people said they won't let long-distance trains and buses run from the urban center and will shut its public transportation system in the lockdown zone, effective midnight Friday local time. Ezhou, another neighboring city with just over a million residents, said it would enact similar restrictions. ".

A word of caution: "Chinese authorities have suggested the coronavirus is spreading between people primarily through coughing, kissing or contact with saliva. " That means stay away from any working girls exhibiting flu like symptoms. Stay safe.

[GrapeMan]

I'm going to be in Thailand late Feb for business reasons and have decided to extend my trip for 3 weeks for pleasure. My initial plan was to split my time between Bangkok and Pattaya to enjoy the sights, ladies, and food. I'm also scouting for potential places to become an expat at. Early retirement, that sort of thing.

Just to address this part: Thailand is still absolutely amazing and at stupidly bargain rates (for westerners). Columbia and Angeles City (Philippines) or other popular budget spots, each for their own reasons.

Don't let the discussions by more connoisseur and very experienced people here dissuade you that Thailand is still an incredible place for this stuff (or let the newbies just getting their DS wet as they figure it out too dissuade you either). We're more arguing the finer points and tactics and tricks to keep the top notch stuff rolling. Sure, the old timers will tell you "it wasn't what it was X years ago". Sure it wasn't, but 15 years ago we were also talking about blackberries can never ever die, they are amazing! Ok really, Thailand has so much stuff going for it in the scene and just in the country overall. Everything is good brother. And the PSE in Thailand, at the price they offer it, pretty much can't be beat anywhere in the world.

[Kerrstar]

Scary part is that you won't know a person was infected until it's too late for you. May take a week after contracting the virus before any symptoms are obvious. This is Chinese New Year so millions and millions of Chinese will be traveling to other countries this week. Surprised no cases in Hong Kong and Taiwan yet but it's already hit South Korea and Japan. Maybe time to go to Germany instead of SE Asia or even Jakarta where not many Chinese tourists visit.

I stay for about 9 months a year in Wuhan where the virus came from but luckily left about 2 weeks ago for my holiday. The reason for where it has hit is the direct flights fom Wuhan to Seoul and Tokyo. There are very limited direct flights to Taiwan, only a couple of times a week if I recall. I doubt if there are no cases in HK, I'd say they haven't been reported. The train from Wuhan to HK is about 5 hours, so most people would take that rather than fly.

Luckily there are limited direct international flights from Wuhan to anywhere, although they have about 3 flights a day to Thailand, both BKK and Phuket, so expect cases to pop up there.

[Banana Boi]

Any other countries on that side of the world that I should add to my "short list" to RTFF about and research?

South East Asia, Australia, New Zealand, South America, that sort of area. I'm not too concerned with price, within reason, of course. I just want a nice mix of activities and joints to visit. (I'm going to Europe in the summer so I'll hit the other side of the world then).

If you aren't concerned about price why in the world are you considering SE Asia as a retirement hot spot? European countries like Switzerland, Austria, and Germany with their FKK clubs and, more importantly, the fact you aren't living in a 2nd or 3rd world country with a lot of backwards thinking should be where you consider early retirement if you have the funds to do so. Japan would be my pick for retiring in an Asian country. Hobbying is not cheap in Japan but the cost of living is not nearly as expensive as you may think. Getting a Visa may be an issue depending on which country you live in. If you have money, Japan allows 6 month visas for those who can show they have 30 million yen (8.3 million baht, 273,000 USD) in their bank account.

If you are seriously considering Thailand, plan on spending twice as much as you budgeted. The Thai baht continues getting stronger. 10's of thousands of broke ass Farang around Pattaya are living proof that Thailand was way more expensive than they had planned.

As I've began RTFF it is slowly becoming apparent that maybe Thailand no longer is the monger paradise it once was.

In SE Asia there is still no other country that offers the abundance of options that Thailand offers. Those of us who have lived in Thailand for some time b1tch about many things but Thailand is still the number 1 place in SE Asia. The only other SE Asia city that can give Thailand a run for its money would be the MUCH cheaper Jakarta, especially for guys who like naturally busty young girls.

Only caveat I would put on this is that I would never recommend Thailand for Indian men. Your brothers who proceeded you ruined it for you. I would recommend Jakarta, Phnom Penh, Angeles City, and even Kuala Lumpur for Indian men.

[RojerAims1]

I'm going to be in Thailand late Feb for business reasons and have decided to extend my trip for 3 weeks for pleasure. My initial plan was to split my time between Bangkok and Pattaya to enjoy the sights, ladies, and food. I'm also scouting for potential places to become an expat at. Early retirement, that sort of thing.

As I've began RTFF it is slowly becoming apparent that maybe Thailand no longer is the monger paradise it once was. Comments about quality at the massage places and expansions of clip joints and whatnot. I'm positive there is great fun to be had so I'll still spend sometime there but this leads me into my question:

Any other countries on that side of the world that I should add to my "short list" to RTFF about and research?

South East Asia, Australia, New Zealand, South America, that sort of area. I'm not too concerned with price, within reason, of course. I just want a nice mix of activities and joints to visit. (I'm going to Europe in the summer so I'll hit the other side of the world then).

To the point: where do you think the new monger paradise is? Or what has been your (recent) favorite place?

I can't wait to document my trip for everyone's benefit!

Cheers,

Rojer.

[Banana Boi]

avoid all contact with anyone exhibiting flu like symptoms and if you see a NE Asian guy coughing badly in a Go Go bar or restaurant - get the fuck out!

Scary part is that you won't know a person was infected until it's too late for you. May take a week after contracting the virus before any symptoms are obvious. This is Chinese New Year so millions and millions of Chinese will be traveling to other countries this week. Surprised no cases in Hong Kong and Taiwan yet but it's already hit South Korea and Japan. Maybe time to go to Germany instead of SE Asia or even Jakarta where not many Chinese tourists visit.

[Member #4698]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...new-cases.html

Currently as related to travel to LOS is concerned, this new disease only bears close monitoring, BUT I would definitely avoid flying any airlines originating or laying over in China. Also considering the large number of Chinese tourists and businessmen flying inter Asian flights these days, I would cut back on those flights too. I remember a few years back sitting in a row directly behind a heavily coughing Chinese businessman on a flight from Manila to Jakarta, I caught his flu and was laid up a few days later. So if you are in Thailand or about to visit, avoid all contact with anyone exhibiting flu like symptoms and if you see a NE Asian guy coughing badly in a Go Go bar or restaurant - get the fuck out!

[Buksida1]

What about what the bar owner would rather? Don't forget that most times tips are put into a kitty and split up by all the workers at the end of the night; same as it was when I worked in a bar way back when.

The bar girl will happily keep the tip for herself and not share it.

[Member #4733]

Due to numerous conflicts of schedule my travel plans to Thailand this year may bring me over the Songkran dates in either BKK or Pattaya. I would like to obtain an objective review of what to expect during this Thai New Year festival from those who may have experienced it. Therefore, I would really appreciate any response posted or PM on this topic. I enjoy fun like everyone else but if there are water fights "everywhere and all the time" it may put a damper on the holiday- thanks in advance.

I have been in Bangkok with Songkran twice, more or less so. In Bangkok it was only 3 days. First year I spent a whole day getting soaked and liked it. At Si Lom, near Siam BTS station, at Khao San Road. At many places they will throw water at you but not in Lumphini park for example. But. They are fully entitled to do so. After 8 pm or so no water is thrown anymore, but officially people are allowed to throw water but nobody does that anymore. You can just enjoy Cowboy or Nana like any other day. But like Szyzgies said a lack of girls, esp Baccara but Cowboy2 was much better then usual. At Si Lom there was even a street (forgot which one) that had a sign telling they had decided not to throw water there. On some sites it is officially announced that Songkran is 5 days in Bangkok. But on day 5 all had turned back to normal, to my dismay. My advice is to go to Cowboy or Nana after 10 pm. Don't go to Si Lom or Khao San Road if you don't like water. Taxis function just like always, so no problem.

[Asian Travels]

Arrived via DMK could not get a grab taxi was about 350 baht 45 minutes. Got a sim with DTAC next True Move booth was cheaper then theirs.

Here's my summary and advice as a first timer for other first timers in this lovely city.

Stay in short walking distance to Nana.

Need money to have fun. I blew my budget by a lot but don't regret it spent where it counts in this order ass, drinks hotel and eating cheap delicious street food. Drinks were not as cheap as I thought and this ate my budget a lot.

The one night me and my buddy took bar girls we were both disappointed. His was super shy and not very fun in bed while I explained mine. The extra cost of the go go is well worth it that and you get an up close inspection with little or no clothes on and girls just seem to be more wild of course doesn't snt mean you could end up getting a starfish in bed.

My experiences with the FL were good and safe although that might not be the case for everyone.

Don't take tuk tuks even short distance they are a rip off, bike, taxi or grab.

Must try Nuru massage at least once.

Thais are so tiny and cute.

Bangkok Nana / Cowboy is definitely the best of all the mongering locations I have been in SEA if not the world.

Great post. I'm coming to, town after a few years absence and this helped set the lay of the land. Thank you!

[YngMong]

Arrived via DMK could not get a grab taxi was about 350 baht 45 minutes. Got a sim with DTAC next True Move booth was cheaper then theirs.

Stayed at the Ibis 4, about $35 usd a night room was clean basic but good. The only dislike was the strong smell of cleaner chemical when checked in. Few hours of running the AC solved that. Its about 3-5 minute walk from NP. There is an amazing food setup on the sidewalk same aide right next door best fried rice and pad Thai 50 baht each. Lots of foreigners and Thai eating there. Also midway there is a lady that sells the best fried chicken I ever had. There's a few she was around or just a bit past Hillary 2.

Checked in and took the BTS to see View at Tulip more in depth posted there but short summary good experience but with so much on offer in BKK I would not go back especially if staying for a few days. She was the only decent looking one.

Later in afternoon hit up Hilary 2 for beers and pool. Best day time bar IMO for atmosphere, location and ladies although More on that later. Met a wingman which was nice as I found it a lot more fun.

Early evening hit up Soi Cowboy. Started with Suzie as I heard there was a ping pong show. Place sucked. Skip it.

Next Kazy Kozy. This is my top GG entertainment wise. Most of the time ot was girls trying to half ass dance around on the stage but when the shoe started, Jesus F Christ. Talking about girls dripping hot candle wax on each other, girl pulling a 10 ft long string of flowers from her puss and the cherry on top a full on fuck fest with a strap on. Wild highly recommended. Lots of hotties.

Then back to Nana check out Spankys, which was good but hard to top Kazy Kozy and perhaps but don't remember so must of been not memorable. My wingman found his friend the night but I wasn't feeling anything decided to make the walk of shame back hotel alone. Decided to stroll by the infamous Nana sign to see what was left. Stumbled across a cutie around 22-25 named Flour then realized she's part of the deaf squad, something I wanted to try as part of some sick craving I had watching some off the bkk112 videos. 1500 baht st didn't bother negotiations as was good for me. The pace she was running to my hotel I could tell she wanted to be over quick. Whatever I was tired and drunk. She was a blast, so tiny I could almost launch her with a hard thrust. Although this is terrible the squeals she made were fantastic. Especially when I unexpectedly blasted over her body. Was a quick but fun session. Then sleep as I had an early start next day doing a bicycle tour which I would also highly recommend. Got back to Nana around 7 of a full day of sun good food and exploring some off beaten parts of Bangkok.

Friend and I decided to hit up Billboard which was pretty good and then butterflies again I wasn't really seeing anything I wanted to barfine and was quite enjoying buying a ld and trying out a girl for a few minutes. Finally mammasan brought me a 22 tall nice tits innocent smile but smile eyes that said fuck me please. No brainer 1200 baht BF 3 k st 5000 LT it was still early and I had nasty plans for her I took her LT. She could definitely be in a tul tuk patrol video. My friend wasn't seeing anything he liked but my dates suggested she knew someone at playskoop the gogo she use to work out but which we found out that it had much less traffic then butterflies she moved. Went down to playskool all the girls recognized her and were eager to have some customers as there only a few. We started buying drinks and the girls there were eager to please getting really down and dirty I would recommend this place to have some fun for throwing a few baht as the girls seemed willing. The shots were flowing and I could tell my 22 year old was starting to get drunk and I said better get out of here before she ends up passing out. Long story short got her to drunk and she had to leave still had a great time and just paid her short time 3 k and was a bit pissed I let her drink so much.

I was still hungry for more so I went for a stroll back to see what was left it was quite late. Found a nice girl early 30's named Pin who had excellent English. After doing the LB inquiry she quoted me 1000 baht as it was last call I took her back and had a good time. Found out after she does A+ or 500 more. I regret not knowing about it earlier.

Last day woke up a bit later and hit up Doki Doki, a solid line up but no names I could find reviews on here. Ended up going with Honey who was full bodied but not fat with perfect size and feel fakes. Took the 90 minutes. Highlight of the trip what fun. Was my first time with Nuru and Honey really took her work seriously and looked after you. She did this leg lock siccsor fuck while I lay on my stomach, blew my mind. Also 2 course rimming for over 10 minutes. My friend who went the day before picked a skinny and tiny girl name unknown and got a+ but when I asked reception was not offered by anyone.

Had dinner at China town, was great with lots of delicious food options and lots of people fun to see.

We decided to BF two ladies 750 baht I think 2 k st I think 3 k LT from Hilary 4, them mine and other don't know name went back to Cowboy to Kazy Kozy check out a LB bar just for shits and giggles and then some dancing at at Country something.

After bars shut headed back to hotel she ended up being super weird and a horrible and disappointing experience for my last conquest in town for most likely a long time. Not sure if her name is them but that's how she pronounced it. She fair skin 36 pretty but I would recommend skipping.

Here's my summary and advice as a first timer for other first timers in this lovely city.

Stay in short walking distance to Nana.

Need money to have fun. I blew my budget by a lot but don't regret it spent where it counts in this order ass, drinks hotel and eating cheap delicious street food. Drinks were not as cheap as I thought and this ate my budget a lot.

The one night me and my buddy took bar girls we were both disappointed. His was super shy and not very fun in bed while I explained mine. The extra cost of the go go is well worth it that and you get an up close inspection with little or no clothes on and girls just seem to be more wild of course doesn't snt mean you could end up getting a starfish in bed.

My experiences with the FL were good and safe although that might not be the case for everyone.

Don't take tuk tuks even short distance they are a rip off, bike, taxi or grab.

Must try Nuru massage at least once.

Thais are so tiny and cute.

Bangkok Nana / Cowboy is definitely the best of all the mongering locations I have been in SEA if not the world.

[Syzygies]

People say it only lasts 3 days in Bkk but I can't recall a time in the past 7-8 years when it only lasted 3 days. In the places we go to monger, the red light distrcts, that is.

Agreed. Stay away from Cowboy and Nana and Pat Pong for 12th April (and maybe 11th), and not sure what day is safe again, after 15th. Drunk Farangs likely to be the biggest idiots.

I went to the province village this year, and most of water games were at the temple or nearby. Karaoke party for Songkran was terrible. The villagers only sang Issan songs, which are far from my cup of tea, and not the stuff my Mrs. Listens to for Thai music at all. No Carabao. Ha ha. No Thai pop either. For some reason they cooked up some beef (in addition to pork) but villagers don't eat beef. That left me and one other to try to eat all the beef. Thai beef is a bit different to what we are used to as well.

The Mrs tried to dye her hair pink or purple for Songkran without getting adequate professional help. The colouration failed. Later lots of her hair started breaking off. Shit happens for Songkran. Many motorcyclists get killed or maimed on the roads when dunk, or when the truck driver was drunk. The highway and main roads are not safe. One teenager killed when he crashed into a stationary truck, rushing to see his GF.

Thailand becomes a mad house. For many years I was absent from Thailand at Songkran. Good plan, or stay indoors, or go with care. Sneak to your MP for mongering. Keep phone in a sealed plastic bag, just in case. Yeh, I am a pessimist, in case you did not guess.

[EihTooms]

Due to numerous conflicts of schedule my travel plans to Thailand this year may bring me over the Songkran dates in either BKK or Pattaya. I would like to obtain an objective review of what to expect during this Thai New Year festival from those who may have experienced it. Therefore, I would really appreciate any response posted or PM on this topic. I enjoy fun like everyone else but if there are water fights "everywhere and all the time" it may put a damper on the holiday- thanks in advance.

People say it only lasts 3 days in Bkk but I can't recall a time in the past 7-8 years when it only lasted 3 days. In the places we go to monger, the red light distrcts, that is. Maybe the year the King died the schedule was strictly adhered to, I don't remember now. The tourists and girls will jump ahead and start shooting passers by with water guns and dumping buckets of ice water on their heads a full day or afternoon earlier than the official start day and don't be surprised if there is one loon who hasn't gotten enough enjoyment out of the "joke" to hit you with a garden hose shot walking down a quiet soi the day after it is supposed to end. All it takes is one.

Each day it starts about 10am and generally ends about 10pm. So if you don't limit your exploring Bkk and mongering to before and after those times, expect to get soaked head to toe several times over all day almost everywhere you go in the city.

Personally, I hate Songkran time in Thailand and would never recommend a first timer come here for girls during that time. Nothing regarding P4P will be normal and it won't be "better" than normal during that time. Many of the best or at least most financially successful girls will leave Bkk and retreat to their provinces that week. But if you have been here a few times already and just want to experience it for water fighting fun, fine.

[LittleBigMan]

Due to numerous conflicts of schedule my travel plans to Thailand this year may bring me over the Songkran dates in either BKK or Pattaya. I would like to obtain an objective review of what to expect during this Thai New Year festival from those who may have experienced it. Therefore, I would really appreciate any response posted or PM on this topic. I enjoy fun like everyone else but if there are water fights "everywhere and all the time" it may put a damper on the holiday- thanks in advance.

Bangkok, you will get 3 days like 13-15th, guys who live there on this board will soon provide more information. But in Pattaya it will be a different story it will last for a good 7 days, and end the 19th of April, 17-18-19 will be the biggest days where traffic will come to a standstill the worse is the 19th. This year 17th-19th falling on the weekend it will be scary.