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  1. #47237
    Quote Originally Posted by Dg8787  [View Original Post]
    It is a felony in my country.
    Is it likely that girl wouldn't know a punter had removed the condom even more so if he came inside. Surely there would be some evidence if she took a shower afterwards.

  2. #47236
    Quote Originally Posted by GrapeMan  [View Original Post]
    Haha oh man, this gets even funnier now. Just to think not too long ago a did a ST for 2500 all-inclusive from a gogo in Nana from a hottie as good looking as any gogo girl in the city and wasn't that happy with the price even though its normal, but I wasn't arguing, and for some reason the girl and mamasan couldn't figure it out and were talking but then mamasan came back it was "2500 OK OK, pay now, no more, 2500" and off we went. She ended up being hot but an uninteresting performer.
    So that time you paid the girl's fee upfront in the bar, too? Even at a somewhat discounted (for a good looking girl in a go-go bar) 2,500 baht total including the barfine, I would have expected no better than an uninteresting level of service. I don't recall ever getting better than passable service in any Thai P4P option after paying upfront and more often than not it turned out to be far less than passable.

  3. #47235
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    LOL. If you happen to be with one of the 3,000 baht barfine girls and ask about the barfine, she will probably call over a mamasan to handle the "explanation" of it, to make sure you understand that 3,000 baht only goes to the bar, has nothing to do with what the girl gets and that you need to pay her something sizable, too.

    The mamasan will be used to guys disbelieving it and needing her to say it in about 3 different ways that, no, the girl's fee is not included in the 3,000 baht, all of that goes to the bar only.

    LOL. Now you know why Cowboy 2 Go-Go Bar always seems to have the biggest crowd of girls sitting and standing outside the bar whenever you walk by. That bar REALLY doesn't want their best lookers to leave for even so much as 1-2 hours in a night.

    Mind you, this is not the same as the "no sex" Coyote scammers lined up outside many Soi Cowboy bars and elsewhere. They might not have a barfine at all since they are never going to leave their Ladydrink Hustle Only post all night for sex or any other reason. At least the 3,000 baht barfine girls at Cowboy 2 are purportedly leaving with you to have sex.
    Haha oh man, this gets even funnier now. Just to think not too long ago a did a ST for 2500 all-inclusive from a gogo in Nana from a hottie as good looking as any gogo girl in the city and wasn't that happy with the price even though its normal, but I wasn't arguing, and for some reason the girl and mamasan couldn't figure it out and were talking but then mamasan came back it was "2500 OK OK, pay now, no more, 2500" and off we went. She ended up being hot but an uninteresting performer.

  4. #47234
    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyBoy99  [View Original Post]
    Glad I'm not the only one who thinks that. Bare backing without permission is beyond douche. Lying about coming in her pussy is even worse. But he appears to be a congenital liar, as he lies even when he doesn't have to:
    It is a felony in my country.

  5. #47233
    Quote Originally Posted by Elmo  [View Original Post]
    You are right. I had not intended to cum inside her, but rather to jerk off on her stomach after a long BBFS session, like I had the prior night with her.

    She really is a sweet girl, and I will admit I panicked a bit afterwards, after I came. I did give her a very good tip, but certainly have been regretting some of the choices I made this trip.

    As the saying goes. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
    I call BS.

    A very good tip doesn't buy your way out of despicable felonious behavior.

    The toll road to hell is paid with bad actions. I highly doubt this is your first time.

  6. #47232

    Pullman hotel

    Quote Originally Posted by Aster14  [View Original Post]
    Been a little more than year since I was last in Thailand, will be making a trip in Feb, 4 days in Pattaya then 4 in BKK. Many thanks to Elmo for the report, especially on which bars to avoid as I kept to WeChat and TF last time around, but looking to visit the bars more on the upcoming trip.

    Quick question, how was your room at the Pullman? I booked a standard King but contemplating upgrading.
    I would go with the upgrade.

    1) Layout of the upgrade is so much better than the standard king. Entrance to the bathroom in standard king is next to the room door. In upgrade, there is a second door to the bathroom off the bedroom.

    2) Standard king has a small tub with a shower attachment. Upgrade has a larger tub and separate large walk in shower.

    3) Chair in the standard king is really uncomfortable. Upgrade has a chaise lounge. Perfect for sipping a beer while planning the evening's activities; remembering past nights adventures, or watching tv.

    One other tip on the Pullman. When you BF a gal from Soi Cowboy, pull out your key card, and show her "Pullman" as you approach Asok Rd and all of the moto-taxis. When you turn the corner, show her the building. It is shaped like the sail of a sailing boat. Even make the shape of the building with your hand. Once she sees the building, she will then understand where you two are going. That there is no need for a moto-taxi; that it is an easy walk; will put her at ease; . Etc. , etc.

    It greatly simplified things leaving Soi Cowboy and makes for a nice walk back to the hotel hand in hand, rather than trying to explain matters.

  7. #47231
    Quote Originally Posted by GrapeMan  [View Original Post]
    My god I had no idea, seems like a weird business model. But I guess unsuspecting drunk guys don't know any better their first time there. Can't even remember if I've ever been in Cowboy 2 now.
    LOL. If you happen to be with one of the 3,000 baht barfine girls and ask about the barfine, she will probably call over a mamasan to handle the "explanation" of it, to make sure you understand that 3,000 baht only goes to the bar, has nothing to do with what the girl gets and that you need to pay her something sizable, too.

    The mamasan will be used to guys disbelieving it and needing her to say it in about 3 different ways that, no, the girl's fee is not included in the 3,000 baht, all of that goes to the bar only.

    LOL. Now you know why Cowboy 2 Go-Go Bar always seems to have the biggest crowd of girls sitting and standing outside the bar whenever you walk by. That bar REALLY doesn't want their best lookers to leave for even so much as 1-2 hours in a night.

    Mind you, this is not the same as the "no sex" Coyote scammers lined up outside many Soi Cowboy bars and elsewhere. They might not have a barfine at all since they are never going to leave their Ladydrink Hustle Only post all night for sex or any other reason. At least the 3,000 baht barfine girls at Cowboy 2 are purportedly leaving with you to have sex.

  8. #47230
    Quote Originally Posted by Dg8787  [View Original Post]
    Douche would be a kind word for Elmo.

    He sneaks the condom off. Then cums inside and lies about it. Karma works. I wouldn't be surprised if she had an infection or HIV. Would serve him right. Sad part is he puts all others at risk.

    Let's all hope he doesn't multiply.
    Glad I'm not the only one who thinks that. Bare backing without permission is beyond douche. Lying about coming in her pussy is even worse. But he appears to be a congenital liar, as he lies even when he doesn't have to:

    Quote Originally Posted by Elmo  [View Original Post]
    Snip. She said she hated Sundays as it would just wear her out, but she wanted to see me again, and asked if I could come to the bar again on Sunday. I told her that I could not stay out late on Sunday, as I had an early flight out on Monday. She got upset and I told her I would get there early. In truth, I was actually leaving late Sunday afternoon, so I did not return to see her. Snip.

  9. #47229
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Cowboy 2 Go-Go Bar on Soi Cowboy has required a 3,000 baht barfine, just to the bar and the girl's fee is separate, for many of their girls for years now. And it is typically for the better looking girls there.
    My god I had no idea, seems like a weird business model. But I guess unsuspecting drunk guys don't know any better their first time there. Can't even remember if I've ever been in Cowboy 2 now.

  10. #47228
    Quote Originally Posted by Catire  [View Original Post]
    Glad you enjoyed yourself, and I don't mean to be an a-hole, but bad ju ju on your part by cuming inside without telling them, especially given how local culture treats abortions (not allowed).

    You can prolly get BBFS if you want but you need to negotiate it beforehand. And certainly if you're cuming inside, with her permission (most who permit BBFS will specifically request that you not cum inside).

    You should tell her and slip her some money for the morning after pill which she should be able to easily procure at the pharmacy.

    Don't be a douche.
    You are right. I had not intended to cum inside her, but rather to jerk off on her stomach after a long BBFS session, like I had the prior night with her.

    She really is a sweet girl, and I will admit I panicked a bit afterwards, after I came. I did give her a very good tip, but certainly have been regretting some of the choices I made this trip.

    As the saying goes. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

  11. #47227
    Quote Originally Posted by GrapeMan  [View Original Post]
    I've never heard of a 3000 baht BF, maybe they saw gold in your eyes or maybe I've just never tried one of these girls. That sounds insane. As you found 700-1000 is more in the usual range. 3000 to BF, geez, you should have just went to the next gogo in line and BF'ed 2 girls instead.
    ...
    Cowboy 2 Go-Go Bar on Soi Cowboy has required a 3,000 baht barfine, just to the bar and the girl's fee is separate, for many of their girls for years now. And it is typically for the better looking girls there.

    I would never consider it unless I covered every possible whim and desire I had in mind with the girl during a pre-barfine discussion and got an enthusiastic Yes to everything. And even then I would make sure she understood I would give her nothing, not one baht, if it turned out she lied about any of it.

    "Mood killer" be damned, no way would I pay that much upfront in a Thai go-go bar and still be expected to pay another perhaps equal amount to the girl without at least that much rip off insurance on my side.

  12. #47226
    Quote Originally Posted by Elmo  [View Original Post]


    I then left Spice Girls and hit Cowboy 2, Tilac, and Crazy Cat. Cowboy 2 had lots of hot girls, while Crazy had several real beauties. I decided that a thin little gal I had seen gyrating on stage at Cowboy 2 was the best option, so I went back there. She was taken, but saw "Jenny" instead. Short thin little gal. About 40 kg and 150 cm (5 ft) tall. Quite large breasts for such a short thin gal, but it turned out to be a padded bra. Bar fine for Jenny was 3,000 Baht!! WTF??? I could not believe it. And all of the hot gals at Cowboy 2 had this 3,0000 Baht bar fine. There were also a number of lesser gals in less revealing outfits that only had a 1,000 Baht BF. But the quality drop off was obvious.
    I've never heard of a 3000 baht BF, maybe they saw gold in your eyes or maybe I've just never tried one of these girls. That sounds insane. As you found 700-1000 is more in the usual range. 3000 to BF, geez, you should have just went to the next gogo in line and BF'ed 2 girls instead.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elmo  [View Original Post]
    Realized I had never been to Nana Plaza, so I researched that the following afternoon while sitting at the hotel pool. Late in the afternoon, I walked down to Nana Plaza - I found the Hooters, and the other bars around there that I recognized from videos, but did not see Nana Plaza, until I turned around and realized the lane I was standing in (right next to Big Dogs) was the actual entrance way to NP. Felt pretty dumb once I figured that out. Had a late dinner and at about 9 pm. I headed back up to NP, and hit Billboards and then Rainbow (2nd floor - I think it was #4). Was impressed with the quality of the Billboard babes - tall, thin almost model like, but they looked like 1) they knew they were beautiful; and 2) would charged accordingly; and 3) the service had better be amazing, but likely would not be. Rainbow (4?) was okay, when they went topless on stage was surprised by how many had fake boobs. There seemed to be a lot more ladyboy bars at NP than at Soi Cowboy, and they are a lot more aggressive at NP
    You're off on Nana. Frankly, the last few years, Nana is simply better than Soi Cowboy in price, quality, and fun. No crazy BFs, the gogos are fun, less pressure than Cowboy and the girls are as good or better. You should have stayed longer, it tends to get going good and solid around when you probably left, but you did do right in bar hopping there as there are simply less overall girls, so they don't take breaks, which means bar hopping is better compared to Cowboy, because in Cowboy the girls they rotate in / out more often. But yes, there are more LB boys, they can get a bit forward, but just walk past them like every other person does and move on to the next gogo.

  13. #47225
    Quote Originally Posted by Margaya  [View Original Post]
    I am not interested in spending too much time online fooling around so would like to contact P4P girls only. Since demise of backpage, it is difficult to find anything that has a good number of ads with pics. So what is hot now a days. Tinder, Thaifriendly, leolist, Locanto?

    On Thai friendly or facebook, is there any way to spot a working girl and then quickly find more. May be her friends LOL? I haven't seen any facebook profile so don't know which girl to start with.

    Please share your online hunting tips, Thanks.
    Just my opinion, take it for what you will, I've never tried to book a 2-girl online like that. But, any escort agencies will give you whatever you want if you call them. Most MPs will do the same if you want to girls, sure, whatever, they don't care, that's just two girls getting work off one client for the agency, MP, and girls.

    If you go the TF or whatever route its just going to be more time consuming and a lot more work to deal with it all, and what is there to gain by doing it this way? You could also just walk into the door of almost any MP or Eden and get two girls there, on the spot, done and done (or choose two girls to take home later).

  14. #47224
    Quote Originally Posted by Catire  [View Original Post]
    Glad you enjoyed yourself, and I don't mean to be an a-hole, but bad ju ju on your part by cuming inside without telling them, especially given how local culture treats abortions (not allowed).

    You can prolly get BBFS if you want but you need to negotiate it beforehand. And certainly if you're cuming inside, with her permission (most who permit BBFS will specifically request that you not cum inside).

    You should tell her and slip her some money for the morning after pill which she should be able to easily procure at the pharmacy.

    Don't be a douche.
    Douche would be a kind word for Elmo.

    He sneaks the condom off. Then cums inside and lies about it. Karma works. I wouldn't be surprised if she had an infection or HIV. Would serve him right. Sad part is he puts all others at risk.

    Let's all hope he doesn't multiply.

  15. #47223
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    How does this happen? Would love to see a mamasan try doing this to me at a gogo bar.
    After her pestering you about buying her a drink and you saying No and waving her off, a shot or cocktail suddenly shows up in her hand anyway and there it is listed on your tab. I have had it happen a few times in Thai bars. And I have objected and told them to take it off my tab.

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