Thread: Rio de Janeiro - Crime & Safety
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05-19-21 05:18 #1278
Posts: 1139Continued from the Rio de Janeiro thread
Originally Posted by Brasil Nut [View Original Post]
Your explanation, most definitely would explain some of the crime related discripancies, between the smaller and larger cites. Also what you describe, I don't think is something that is easily distilled into simple black and white.
As you point out, there are alot of these "milicias" or dirty cops around. So when it's reported that cops are killed in certain circumstances, I'm thinking maybe it was "dirty cops" and perhaps they deserved it.
Consider that many of the favela gang-members, don't even have a "pot to piss-in", yet somehow copious amounts of contraband, drugs and guns, somehow find their way to the favelas. How do they get there? Where do they come from? It is widely reported that in some instances, the "police" (or "milicias") are the ones supplying the criminal gangs the guns and contraband.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...rom-drug-gangs
Many of these so called police / ex-police members, the "milicianos", have taken over gang related criminal activities, in some of these favela neighborhoods and are many times worse than the criminal gangs that they've usurped. Some in the people in the favelas feel that they are the "lesser of two evils", others not so much.
So is the act of crime/murder/killing/drug trafficking and all its other nasty forms, ONLY okay ("righteous") , when police/ex-police ("milicianos") or dirty-cops do it?
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11-10-20 05:26 #1277
Posts: 2002Has anything changed in Rio safety-wise in 2020?
Question for Rio vets mostly. My last trip was in February. Just curious if the pandemic has changed the situation on the ground, for better or worse.
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09-04-20 15:30 #1276
Posts: 2278General Warning to Those New to Rio
You may notice some of us mentioning clubs or venues outside the tourist zone.
I have spent time in various Favelas and the North Zone in Rio. Just to give you an idea, I am blond fair-skinned and it was not unusual for the little kids to want to touch me and feel my hair. I have had a similar, but not as tactile reaction when I was the only Caucasian in rural areas of Japan. Different is different. My point is, if you are Caucasian, you will stand out. This is not always a good or safe thing especially if you do not speak Portuguese. Also have been to a number of Baile Funk parties. One in a favela I left because the locals were not particularly happy that one of their hot Brazilian honeys was with a gringo. Speaking of favelas. I find the favela tours disgusting. Look at the poor people. Look how they live. It is to gain cultural understanding, but more like visiting a zoo. Would you advise visitors to your city to take a tour of the slums?
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04-22-20 04:18 #1275
Posts: 557Fyi
Originally Posted by JavaMan [View Original Post]
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04-22-20 01:55 #1274
Posts: 2278One More Thing
Originally Posted by Spidy [View Original Post]
With this particular friend and his wife, I used to go to MPB clubs.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%B...lar_brasileira
Routinely we would have dinner and spend the night out. There was never let the rich gringo pay. He always insisted on fairly dividing the costs. Good times with good people.
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04-22-20 00:37 #1273
Posts: 1139Well Said...
Originally Posted by ExecTalent [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by ExecTalent [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by ExecTalent [View Original Post]
Yep, Complicated! Time will tell I guess, as to how much safer people* feel with this new gov't regime.
*Note: "People", meaning it naturally depends on your social-economical makeup w/r to this decision. This includes us as tourists or mongers.
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04-19-20 14:00 #1272
Posts: 2278That is Awful. Goodbye
The issue with foreign journalists is always the same.
They hear about a problem. They come in, hype the problem, and leave.
Their viewers all go, isn't that awful, and turn the channel.
If you have lived among Brazilians, you are well aware of this situation. It is not hyped news for the foreign market, it is reality. It is insulting for foreigners to sell and benefit from it when they have no intent on being part of the solution.
Many times I get asked by tourists to recommend a favela tour. I suggest that they wait until they get back to the US and tour the slums in LOS Angeles, New York, Detroit, Chicago, New Orleans, Baltimore or my personal favorite, Las Vegas. Behind all those lights and glitter on the Strip are people living in rundown apartments working the casinos and trying to survive.
As has been mentioned, these police militias are nothing new. About 15 years ago, I had a very good friend killed by one of them. His family did nothing because they feared reprisal. That is not media hype for first world viewers, that is reality.
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04-18-20 01:43 #1271
Posts: 4057Originally Posted by Spidy [View Original Post]
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04-18-20 00:33 #1270
Posts: 1139Better the devil you know...
Originally Posted by Sperto [View Original Post]
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04-16-20 07:20 #1269
Posts: 4057Originally Posted by Spidy [View Original Post]
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04-16-20 01:37 #1268
Posts: 1139Poice mafia-like organisations known as "the militia".
In Brazil's Rio de Janeiro mafia-like organizations known as "the militia" have become even more feared for their violence and control of the city than its notorious drug gangs...
Will the real "thugs", "criminals" and "gangsters", please stand up, ...please stand up, ...please stand up?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1TQIMTsstw
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02-11-20 21:03 #1267
Posts: 4057Dangerous times in Rio
IMO there are two dangers in Brazil that worries me, the traffic and umbrellas. The traffic because they drive like crazy. The umbrellas is even a major danger in Brazil. As soon as the rain starts everybody opens up their umbrellas. The problem is that most brazilians are quite short and their umbrellas are often close to rip out my eyes.
As it's being very rainy in Rio this summer it's dangerous times. I wouldn't recommend anybody coming here.
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02-07-20 13:41 #1266
Posts: 2027Originally Posted by UniversalX [View Original Post]
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02-07-20 10:31 #1265
Posts: 2374Originally Posted by Sperto [View Original Post]
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02-07-20 10:19 #1264
Posts: 4057Another gringo tourist murdered.
A Lithuanian tourist, 37 year, and his brazilian GF/wife, rented a beach house in Praia do Sono, outside Paraty in RJ state. A guy entered the house armed with a knife, tied up the guy, raped the girl, tortured the guy and then killed him. The suspect is a guy who was hired to take care of the grass.
https://g1.globo.com/rj/sul-do-rio-c...sediando.ghtml