Bangkok Reports

[Steve 9696]

How is it that the guy who films these videos is always as if he is invisible? The girls don't even glance at him. It's the same when he's waking the streets.

Thanks to whomever posted the videos. Thermae is not at all as I expected. For some reason I thought the girls would all be in cocktail dresses or the like. Like fishbowl girls. Surprised to see so many dressed casually or a bit frumpy in pants. Won't keep me from doing them! But thanks for the heads up to set expectations. 🙏.

[Paolo99]

Was browsing some thermae videos on yt and found some familiar faces.

Glasses, black-red striped pants, white top. https://youtu.be/e4IAhio45z4?t=116.

Was in cafe for almost an hour. Did not find anyone I liked. Girl from group behind bar asked me to come over to talk. She knew Japanese but not much English. Did not have much to talk about. Finally, decided to take her. Talked down to 2000. She said 30 minutes. Tomboyish personality. Fake hipster glasses which complimented longish face shape. Long eyelashes, pale skin. Crows feet around eyes, due to makeup probably. Said age 24, worked in sales during the day, which may explain her forwardness.

Good report, thank you.

That girl looked more like 44 to me.

[Rodwint2]

Wow, I spotted one of my long time repeat girls in this video: https://youtu.be/iwJlHVCr4Y4?t=120..

She is not the girl you guys are talking about, so it has no bearing on the conversation pro or con. I knew she moonlighted in Thermae occasionally with her girl friend. She has a day job as an Insurance Company rep girl and used to work at Baccara up until 2014 when she was younger and a lot sexier. I still see her semi-regularly, but not on account of the sex which has no surprises anymore, but because she is a good girl, has a kinky sense of humor, and because I just like her. Go figure.

BTW, I give her 4000bt whenever I see her. Not because that is her asking price. Her Thermae price is 2500 bt and that is probably negotiable. Ha Ha. But her original no negotiation price when I first met her in Baccara back in 2009 was 2000 baht and that was top dollar back then. In all this time she has never asked me for more. I give her 4000 because I know her rent is 4500/month including utilities and like I said, I just like her. Basically I am helping to support her by giving her half of year's rent. I guess that makes her my part time mistress. 555.

Which girl is she? What time stamp on the video does she show up? Just curious on what your taste tend to go in girls. Personally, I like the girl at 2:51 of the video and another at 10:23.

[EihTooms]

Interesting night. As I have said, the good and bad times generally come in waves.

A very cute, young, slim, waif-like freelancer Matches me on Tinder or rather I Matched her, says she is only in Bkk for three days and needs money. She has clicked on me before and we already had each other's Line from a previous time but she apparently does not remember or she just wants to remind me we have not met yet. The exchange essentially comes down to I will pay her 2000-3000 baht for "good, real sex and will not pay for bad sex", that is all. She is cute enough for me to go with the flow and see what happens in the room. It turns out she is from Isaan, of course, and comes to Bangkok every now and then with her friend who works in Hillary Bar (I didn't even ask which one), but hates to drink alcohol so she does not work in a bar and only freelances.

Unfortunately, what happens in the room is she is about as erotic and willing to please me as a cactus plant. She plops down next to me in bed after her shower, grabs my dick like a hanging strap on the skytrain and starts pulling it like she wants me to cum in record time. No way is that going to happen even if I wanted to cum in record time. So I remove her hand and try to kiss her on the lips. No way is that going to happen either. "Oh, I just ate spicy food," she says. I say, let's just relax for a minute first, wanting to at least cuddle a moment before plunging right in. I make a move to DATY. All of this including the "let's just relax a minute first" comment elicits little "ugh" type groans of impatience from her. She has her pattern, she's sticking to it and it is a really lousy one for the customer, imo. I tell her she seems to only be interested in what she wants to do, not what I want to do. The DATY comes to an abrupt end the instant I dip my tongue the tiniest bit into her slit and she yelps, "NOT so deep!" Believe me, it was not deep.

"Ok", I say as I stand up and wipe my mouth with the nearest towel, "I'm going to call this Very Bad Sex. Thanks for stopping by. I will give you 100 baht for your time. " She dresses in silence and out she goes. Bye.

So I head over to Nana Plaza. Passing Angelwitch go-go bar, a doorgirl hooks my arm and tries to pull me in. My hand cups her bare butt (except for a thong bikini bottom) and it feels great. I pop a boner almost immediately and go inside the bar with her. She stays with me, I buy her a drink and it is about as immediate, erotic and pleasant a chemistry as I have felt with a new girl in a long time. Nice, sleek, satiny smooth body and skin, no tits to speak of and a face for which I might generously give a rating of 6. But she is a sweet girl and feels great in my hands. After one LD which she barely touches, apparently not wanting this magical time of her sitting on my lap to end, I hear her tell me she REALLY wants me to pay the barfine and take her. I REALLY want to as well. However, despite the fact that she kept repeating, "I really like you. I want make you happy. Don't worry. If you are happy I am happy," the earlier episode with the freelancer told me this might turn out to be one of those nights. So I had to ask if that meant she would be ok to boom boom me no condom.

No way, no how, not tonight, not ever. And as she was about to launch into a safety lecture, I stopped her and said, "No problem, honey. Kow jai (I understand). I feel very safe about what I do but I know you must feel safe, too. So I cannot take you. But thank you for sitting with me anyway. Nice meeting you." I paid our drink bill, gave her a 100 baht note and left.

Then I capped this night off with a stop in Geisha Bar. I wasn't all that interested in what I was seeing on stage or sitting around on the stools. The girl I'd taken a couple of times in the previous weeks was not there. But after a few minutes sitting with my drink a fairly cute little spinner on stage I'd never seen before gestures to me, the only one among a couple of dozen girls there at 11pm who seemed to even notice me. So I chuckled and called her over. She is very fluent in English, energetic, wears big glasses and goes by the name Pim. As soon as her LD hits the counter she leans over and says, "I have been dancing for so long here night after night, I am very happy to finally sit down. But I should tell you I never go to hotel with customer for sex. No. Never. I only get Ladydrinks."

I should have called the server over and told her to take that drink off my bill right then and there. But for whatever reason I didn't. Maybe I was kind of gobsmacked that they wouldn't at least put these little scammers in different clothes or wear a different badge or something to identify them as no sex and only LD scammers on stage. Plus I guess I was kind of curious what kind of girl pulls that shit at a time when customer numbers are down by major percentages.

Anyway, within a minute or so, her "rest time" off the stage was over. I paid my bill, said bye to Pim and walked over to the mamasan. I asked her why there is no identification for the girls who only get LDs and never go to the hotel for sex with a customer. The mamasan seemed shocked that anyone would ask such a thing. "Up to girl!"

"Uh, I know it is up to the girl to decide if she wants to have sex with a customer. I'm talking about a girl who gestures to a customer for a drink, sits down and the instant her LD arrives she tells the customer she will not be leaving with him for sex. I didn't even talk to her about sex. Is this bar a scammer bar now?"

"Which girl!?"

"That one sitting on the stool in front of the stage. Pim."

Voice raised, not to the girl, to me, "Why you not ask if she goes to hotel for sex before you buy drink!??"

"Trust me, now that I know this is a scammer bar, I will ask every girl, IF I ever come in here again." As I turned and walked out of Geisha Bar Nana Plaza, the mamasan was still shouting something about this topic at me but I could not really hear through the loud music. However, I am pretty sure it wasn't anything like, oh, please don't go we have plenty of girls to take care of you.

I have been asked several times recently by guys who come to Bangkok often throughout the year but have not been able to make it happen for one reason or another during this coronavirus hysteria if the girls are working harder to please the few remaining customers, offering and providing more, cutting their asking prices and so on.

Well, they can assess what is in these reports on Thermae, the massage shops and my experience with a freelancer and two different go-go bars tonight in order judge for themselves if that is anywhere close to the way Thai people in the P4P industry deal with economic hard times. In my experience, offering and providing more while charging less is not the way Thai people in the P4P industry deal with economic hard times.

YMMV.

[Smoothy]

Wow, I spotted one of my long time repeat girls in this video.

How is it that the guy who films these videos is always as if he is invisible? The girls don't even glance at him. It's the same when he's waking the streets.

[Member #4698]

Wow, I spotted one of my long time repeat girls in this video: https://youtu.be/iwJlHVCr4Y4?t=120..

She is not the girl you guys are talking about, so it has no bearing on the conversation pro or con. I knew she moonlighted in Thermae occasionally with her girl friend. She has a day job as an Insurance Company rep girl and used to work at Baccara up until 2014 when she was younger and a lot sexier. I still see her semi-regularly, but not on account of the sex which has no surprises anymore, but because she is a good girl, has a kinky sense of humor, and because I just like her. Go figure.

BTW, I give her 4000bt whenever I see her. Not because that is her asking price. Her Thermae price is 2500 bt and that is probably negotiable. Ha Ha. But her original no negotiation price when I first met her in Baccara back in 2009 was 2000 baht and that was top dollar back then. In all this time she has never asked me for more. I give her 4000 because I know her rent is 4500/month including utilities and like I said, I just like her. Basically I am helping to support her by giving her half of year's rent. I guess that makes her my part time mistress. 555.

[P5000]

Was browsing some thermae videos on yt and found some familiar faces.

Nice.

I am going to stay 7 nights at Ruamchitt late March this year.

But now I am thinking maybe I should cancel because of how you described the beds. I have Deluxe Twin Room.

Also I am not Asian and these girls don't seem to be fun. Even If the "Glasses, black-red striped pants, white top" is my type.

[Goatscrot]

I almost took her about two weeks ago myself. Big smile as I approached. Very personable as we chatted a moment about things in general. Then it came time to get to it. It being Thermae, I had to ask something to see if it was worth the hassle of walking out with her and down the road a bit; "Do you like to kiss?" pointing to my lips and hers. She said, "Oh, not so much." Already a no-go in my mind. However, with little to lose and willing to be surprised, I asked, "Are you ok if I kiss you everywhere?", discretely gesturing with as small circle to indicate her whole body. Her smile dropped and, with a very pained expression her face, she said, "Oh. Maybe just a little bit, but not too much."

Done and out. Same as you, I decided there was simply no chemistry to bother taking her. Thanks for this report. I thought it was because I was a farang and an older one at that. LOL.

She a working girl. What does she do? That's ridiculous. What do the guys who take her get for their 2500 Baht? She should go work at 7.
We should get a group together, say 5 or 6 of us, go into thermae 15 min apart, approach her and each ask her if she rims and takes it in the rice exit. That'd be a hoot.

[EihTooms]

Was browsing some thermae videos on yt and found some familiar faces.
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Small sitting brown girl. https://youtu.be/iwJlHVCr4Y4?t=120.

Almost took her several times. No chemistry. Cold and awkward, little English. Quoted 2500.
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I almost took her about two weeks ago myself. Big smile as I approached. Very personable as we chatted a moment about things in general. Then it came time to get to it. It being Thermae, I had to ask something to see if it was worth the hassle of walking out with her and down the road a bit; "Do you like to kiss?" pointing to my lips and hers. She said, "Oh, not so much." Already a no-go in my mind. However, with little to lose and willing to be surprised, I asked, "Are you ok if I kiss you everywhere?", discretely gesturing with as small circle to indicate her whole body. Her smile dropped and, with a very pained expression her face, she said, "Oh. Maybe just a little bit, but not too much."

Done and out. Same as you, I decided there was simply no chemistry to bother taking her. Thanks for this report. I thought it was because I was a farang. And an older one at that. LOL.

[Lager]

Was browsing some thermae videos on yt and found some familiar faces.

Dark dress in middle.

First night, arrived when cafe just opened. Few guys circling. Took and seat and talked to an older woman. The older women at the cafe always nice. I was boorish. Was encouraged repeatedly to take a girl. Was not particularly in the mood but went a few laps. One of the girls took my wrist as I passed. Surprisingly attractive when I got a better look at her. Wore different makeup than vid, black jumpsuit that accentuated curves, strap heels. About 5'5. Girl-next-door type with exotic features. Quoted 2500. Acceptable. Decided to try Ruamchitt. Price for ST room was about 700 baht. Seemed to be her first time at the hotel and we got lost on the way up. Became v giggly. Ended up on wrong floor again, which made her to keel over and laugh. Found right room next attempt. Turned on air conditioner, closed shades. The room was a double, beds small. Worse, the bed frames had wheels so they gradually got displaced from headboards by activity. Appearance-wise, no tattoos, no loose skin or blemishes. Was not curvy, but OK, went with the girl-next-door vibe. Beginning at roughly 20 minutes and repeating every 5 or so minutes she would enjoin me to finish. After a number of injunctions, managed to obey. Would not let COF, so went to COB. In rush to pull off, condom snapped in my hand and accidentally splashed her face. Evoked brief scream and from scream my frantic concern.

Once sex was over, she was lively and giggly again. Coming down told me she started less than a month ago and came to cafe 2 nights a week. Not entirely true, during the next week she was there every day. Always in dress instead of jumpsuit. First night she was on left side, but subsequent seems to prefer right, in spot with bright lighting.

Glasses, black-red striped pants, white top.

Was in cafe for almost an hour. Did not find anyone I liked. Girl from group behind bar asked me to come over to talk. She knew Japanese but not much English. Did not have much to talk about. Finally, decided to take her. Talked down to 2000. She said 30 minutes. Tomboyish personality. Fake hipster glasses which complimented longish face shape. Long eyelashes, pale skin. Crows feet around eyes, due to makeup probably. Said age 24, worked in sales during the day, which may explain her forwardness. Friend told her about "the cafe". Seemed to lack indoor speaking voice. Spoke loudly in large empty lobby. In room, kicked off her heels and turned on music on speakerphone. For some reason shy about body. Hid in bathroom. Dimmed the lights so much it was nearly dark. Maybe because she accepted 2000. Refused BJ. She took off glasses. Told her to put glasses back on. After 10 minutes, began telling me to hurry. Went faster and deeper, but nowhere near finishing. Whimpering, repeated 'no's, cute anguished expression, but submissive. Seemed resigned to bearing it. Couldn't resist going harder. Fun to be cruel. Almost fell off bed. Me pouring sweat, her whimpering it hurt. Far from finishing so ended it. As soon as I said she could leave, transformed into upbeat tomboyish girl again. Accused me of having gone over 30 minutes, which I denied, but forgot I'd made that agreement at all.

Black string blouse in middle.

Told me from Issan. Pale skin, large eyes set somewhat wide apart, full lips. Earlier that trip, I'd seen another westerner walking with short thermae girl. Walked a little distance apart and seemed uncomfortable. Since then, made an effort to walk arm-in-arm, hand-over-shoulder, hand-in-hand. Anyway, walked about 5-10 minutes back to hotel. Had to demand repeatedly to shower together. Was friendly, but very shy. Insisted on dimming the lights. During penetration, when eye contact, would hum to herself and smile. No lube, so was dry at first. Then condom broke. Rinsed in shower, returned to bed. This time used spit. Around 2 am Said I was only guy. Was happy when I said she was pretty. 2000 or 2500.

Small sitting brown girl.

Almost took her several times. No chemistry. Cold and awkward, little English. Quoted 2500.

Oval-faced girl on left.

About to take her but was snatched by elderly Asian with lower-class manners. Unfortunate.

Was chatting with above glasses girl night after sex. Saw Japanese man with peaked black hoodie saunter by. Dressed all black, long hoodie. Resembled goth cosplay. V out of place and amusing sight. Later saw him talking animatedly with older woman in vid. Older woman spoke Japanese. Earlier in trip, showed me chats on her phone from Japanese man. Couldn't read Japanese but lots of exclamation marks. Picture of her and Japanese man. Apparently testimonies of her good service.

[Nounce]

Thanks for the heads up about that issue with Tinder. But I am sure I have discussed sex acts for money fairly blatantly a few times on Tinder before moving the discussion to Line without being banned. Have you tried to just restart a new subscription package through your current phone?

I remember being unable to open an account on one of the other regular dating site apps, ThaiCupid, and kept getting a message that they were "reviewing" my application due to something they were concerned about. I never found out what that concern was all about. But when I applied for an annual auto-renew package, something I wanted to do anyway, all was forgiven and they activated my account without a problem. Maybe starting a Tinder Gold subscription will loosen their grip on those rules of behavior or whatever.

It probably is one or more girls reported the OP to Tinder that caused the problem.

[MrKim]

I would like to summarise my recent experience mongering in Bangkok during the virus outbreak. I am of East Asian descent, but was born and raised in a North American country. For privacy reasons I will not disclose my specific ethnicity. But when I come to Thailand, girls tend to guess I am Korean, Chinese, Hong Konger, or Singaporean. Given I often pass for Chinese, I was unsure what sort of treatment I would get.

I stayed for 2 weeks during late Jan / early Feb and had girls from a variety of sources, including gogos (Nana), escorts (BGE and Smooci), BJ salons, nurus, and freelancers from various apps. I have written several reports in their respective sections on the Thailand forum.

To my relief, girls weren't really fazed by me at all. My fluent English and Western personality / mannerisms certainly helped, and I was never turned down by providers. I got a lot of jokes from the girls, who would ask me if I'm from Wuhan and laugh, but I was prepared for this. The mamasans in the gogos would point at me and scream "Wuhan!" jokingly which was kind of annoying, but it was all in good fun. For the escorts who came to my room, the first thing I did was show them my passport and say "I'm not from China, don't worry" to which they responded with laughter. I would also make them wash their hands thoroughly first thing as well as gargle with Listerine, which made them realize I am serious about cleanliness. But overall, I was never treated with suspicion or paranoia, nor was refused service during my time here. I did however receive some judgey stares from a white couple at a a restaurant when I sat down next to them.

I did see several venues restrict customers from China though:

- The Pimp: if you have traveled to China in the last 30 days, you are not allowed entry. They will inspect every page in your passport to check the entry / exit stamps.

- Doki Doki: sign posted at front desk that says they cannot serve customers who have traveled to China in the last 30 days, but they did not check my passport when I went.

Overall, the Thais are still very welcoming of Chinese despite rising cases here (33 as of today). Most people are wearing masks in public. Thailand remains one of the few countries in Asia who have not imposed travel restrictions on travelers from China, and many Chinese are desperate to escape the bleak situation are coming to Thailand in droves, even after the CNY holiday.

Happy mongering and stay safe everyone!

[Christian G]

I was in BKK in mid January and had fantastic success with Tinder. It was like shooting fish in a barrel. Really beautiful girls ranging from no-pros to hard core pros. Lots of sweet freelancers, IMHO.

However, I did not realize that Tinder had rules (it was my first time using the app and I got started on a whim). So the girls and I had very frank discussions about price, BBBJ, anal, etc. The day after I left BKK, I decided to check my Tinder to be certain I had remembered to turn it off (no sense in having my photo online when I am back in the USA) and discovered that they had closed my account. I feel like a fool, of course, as almost every girl I met was ultimately moved to Line where such rules do not exist.

Forest.

I been in Angeles City few months ago with a friend, he used Tinder alot and many pinay wanted to move the conversation to whatsapp ASAP for talking about ST-LT money and service, they didn't want to talk about it on tinder.

[EihTooms]

I was in BKK in mid January and had fantastic success with Tinder. It was like shooting fish in a barrel. Really beautiful girls ranging from no-pros to hard core pros. Lots of sweet freelancers, IMHO.

However, I did not realize that Tinder had rules (it was my first time using the app and I got started on a whim). So the girls and I had very frank discussions about price, BBBJ, anal, etc. The day after I left BKK, I decided to check my Tinder to be certain I had remembered to turn it off (no sense in having my photo online when I am back in the USA) and discovered that they had closed my account. I feel like a fool, of course, as almost every girl I met was ultimately moved to Line where such rules do not exist.

My question for you Tinder aficionados is this: do I need to buy a second phone to set up a Tinder account when I return to BKK next? Or is there some type of App that I can use so Tinder thinks I have a new phone number when I sign up again? If there is an App, can someone direct me to the website so I can purchase it?

Khob Khun Krup.

Forest.

Thanks for the heads up about that issue with Tinder. But I am sure I have discussed sex acts for money fairly blatantly a few times on Tinder before moving the discussion to Line without being banned. Have you tried to just restart a new subscription package through your current phone?

I remember being unable to open an account on one of the other regular dating site apps, ThaiCupid, and kept getting a message that they were "reviewing" my application due to something they were concerned about. I never found out what that concern was all about. But when I applied for an annual auto-renew package, something I wanted to do anyway, all was forgiven and they activated my account without a problem. Maybe starting a Tinder Gold subscription will loosen their grip on those rules of behavior or whatever.

[Syzygies]

I only saw it as, "This girl has no customer. Why don't you buy her a drink?"

That is spot on, the usual motivation, mamasan is not there for the customer (that much), unless you are very regular and have made it worth her while.