Bogota Reports

[Diviant]

Well had a good first day or very good. I didn't get to the hotel till about 2 am then got up about 5:30. The SA girl I was tweaked had gotten a bit cold and business like on whatsapp. I agreed to 350 but I wanted much of her time. I meet the SA girl and we walked she spoke English fairly well and I enjoyed her company. I'm staying at the a hotel but I had gotten an airbnb. We went to the airbnb and it was a bit weird. We had to get buzzed in and she had to explain to the doorman. I didn't have my luggage (at the hotel) and of course I had the young girl with me. The desk guy called the owner and the SA girl spoke to her. Anyway, I'm hoping to keep both, but stay in the hotel. We'll see, as it's got to be obvious, I just want to use the airbnb as a fuck pad.

Anyway, that's what we did. She was so tight. It was covered, and, mostly, I can't even get off like that, but I did (eventually); not the same level, but still really enjoyed it. I know it's more many of you guys would pay but I really enjoyed the time I spent with her. I may try just a local guide site tomorrow. I can do sex separately, if I want it, but I enjoyed her as a translator as well (even if not cheap). I do hope to see here again. I was so enthralled I spent a lot of time on her. She said she enjoyed it 'too much'. Course that didn't really translate for me.

I sent woodman a email but, honestly, I may be asleep by the time he responds. Been a good day, but a long one.

Maybe I can catch up with him later.

[JjBee62]

And you know what my problem with those women is? Well I should say those women's problem with me. And I tell them this. I am looking for an asset, not a liability. In other words, I am not looking to take on the responsibility of paying someone else's bills. These women are looking for a bank, not a boyfriend. Big difference.

My girlfriend is a school lunch lady in a country town in Brazil. She has to ride the bus all night in order to get to the closest city with an airport. That is how country where she lives is. The other day we were supposed to meet in a certain city to start a trip. She missed her flight the first day (did not check in online like I told her to do) so she would not arrive until evening the next day. I don't know if she had to pay to change the ticket or whatever. She never brought that up to me. What I do know is that because we would have to stay an extra night in the hotel because of her late arrival, she called the hotel and made a bank transfer to pay for the extra night before she even got there. That is the type of woman I look for..

Sometimes, when I'm following right along with you, you make a hard left turn and lose me completely.

Looking for an asset? Check.

Expect accountability? Check.

Be a boyfriend not a bank? Check.

Pay $150 to fly a girl from Barranquilla to Bogota? What are you doing over there? You've already got a girl in Bogota, plus Santa Fe. Besides, Viva flies nonstop for about $50 round trip. Then just leave her stranded at the airport? That's a complete you-turn. Something about her was good enough to invest the equivalent of 10 Santa Fe fucks, to get her to Bogota, where you've already got more pussy than a crazy cat lady convention, but you're not willing to pay another $10 to keep those legs open the next time you're in Barranquilla? Or pay nothing at all and just give her 5 minutes of sympathy. Considering what you had already spent, you just screwed yourself to ruin someone else's day.

I'm not sure I'd call what you do a relationship. "I'll be in town for 3 days. We can fuck Tuesday at 10 am and Thursday at 3 pm. Don't be late and don't wear any make-up. Maybe I'll take you out for a drink Thursday night. " There's no reason to throw money at that, especially considering how many of those relationships you have going on around the world. Worst case, there's always plenty of hookers until you find another "girlfriend."

My view is different. If I like someone enough to fly her in, I'm committed. I'm asking if she's ever flown before. I'm walking her through the process. I'm making sure she is going to be on the plane. For the period we've agreed on, I've adopted her. She's my responsibility. I'll also impress upon her that she has responsibilities, mainly to be on the plane. If we're not both committed, I'm wasting money.

If the plane has a problem and diverts to Bucaramanga, I do what needs to be done to get her either to me, or back home. If I'm not willing to see the whole thing through until she's back home safe, there's no way I'm springing for a plane ticket. If she's worth the expense, she's worth enough to see it through.

The same holds true for a girl who catches a taxi to my apartment. Either I'm cancelling before she gets in the taxi, or I'm paying the taxi to take her home if I turn her away.

[Balboa]

On the flip side, I had bought a ticket for a chick in Barranquilla to meet me in Bogota. I paid like $150 round trip. She had to borrow money from her mother to get to the airport. She got there in time but did not know she was supposed to go through security, so she end up missing the flight. That was the last flight of the day. She did not have money to get back home. No idea how she ended up getting back. I have not talked to her since that day and I was pizzed to waste $150 like that. That is not the kind of lady that I look for..

I think sometimes you make this stuff up, LOL.

Can someone really be this cold?

Some little country bumpkin from Barranquilla gets stuck cause she's naive to traveling and you just leave her cold.

I know you'll have some good line about, ain't your fault, not your problem, etc, etc.

Guess you skipped the empathy line, on creation.

However, once again, to each their own.

Obviously you can live with yourself treating girls like that.

You'll have a good rationalization of why, you write well actually, and that's great for you.

I’m not a fool, I don’t throw money around like a bobo, I don’t let women take advantage of me, however, I do know that things happen, and I’d never leave someone stranded unless they did something with bad intentions.

[Mr Enternational]

The subject is the women who have mastered the art of convincing men they aren't paying for sex. Woman who make you think you're investing in a relationship.

And you know what my problem with those women is? Well I should say those women's problem with me. And I tell them this. I am looking for an asset, not a liability. In other words, I am not looking to take on the responsibility of paying someone else's bills. These women are looking for a bank, not a boyfriend. Big difference.

My girlfriend is a school lunch lady in a country town in Brazil. She has to ride the bus all night in order to get to the closest city with an airport. That is how country where she lives is. The other day we were supposed to meet in a certain city to start a trip. She missed her flight the first day (did not check in online like I told her to do) so she would not arrive until evening the next day. I don't know if she had to pay to change the ticket or whatever. She never brought that up to me. What I do know is that because we would have to stay an extra night in the hotel because of her late arrival, she called the hotel and made a bank transfer to pay for the extra night before she even got there. That is the type of woman I look for.

On the flip side, I had bought a ticket for a chick in Barranquilla to meet me in Bogota. I paid like $150 round trip. She had to borrow money from her mother to get to the airport. She got there in time but did not know she was supposed to go through security, so she end up missing the flight. That was the last flight of the day. She did not have money to get back home. No idea how she ended up getting back. I have not talked to her since that day and I was pizzed to waste $150 like that. That is not the kind of lady that I look for.

I can not fathom giving a chick that is supposed to be my girlfriend money here and money there. I throw money at hookers for the variety. I know that I can not buy love. So what advantage does it give me to throw money at some chick I am supposed to be in a relationship with? None as far as I can see.

I am of the IronQuinn school. I have money because I only give it to chicks that can tell me how much it is going to cost me and how long she is staying. I know a chick is not with me for money because I do not give them any. Late rent, empty pantries, and school clothes or books for kids ain't none of my fucking business. And when a chick does ask, without warning that is the end of us seeing each other.

[IronQuinn]

The guy who followed me wasn't so lucky. He ended up buying her an Audi.

Jesus, I can't even imagine that. Money to blow is a foreign concept to me. I've had a lot of girlfriends over the years, and none of them were with me for the money. It's easy for me to tell, because I don't have any money. I travel when I can because it's what I like to do, maybe a trip once a year, two smaller ones if I'm lucky. The rest of the time I'm working odd jobs to pay the bills. I'm sure compared to most guys on this forum my bank account looks like a steaming pile of dog shit, but the up side is when a girl gets with me, I know it's real. First dates usually consist of a fast food joint, and if she can get over the fact that I drive a rusted out shit box, I know I've got her. They might get with me for physical reasons, but I'm okay with that. In this respect, I consider myself very lucky that I've never been taken for a ride.

[Turgid]

..........These real sharp girls just almost only have to look at their targets and move in to completely make some guys lose their mind over them.............

With me in spite of their modus operandi the bottom line is I either want to fuck the girl or I don't. If I want to then no matter her approach I will take her to bed. If I don't want to then only pity for the girl will make me go with her and years of experience has made me avoid pity fucks.

[JjBee62]

It is normal. People marry girls, spend their lives and all money to be fucked by their wives. Look at the divorce data in USA, Canada, etc. You spent $5000 over 8 months and had, as you said, all the sex you could handle. It looks like, you've scammed her or she made you a present spending her time for almost no money. Maybe you just did not meet her expectations. What she can expect from you? Create sex? It is funny. They have 5-10 partners a day. As any normal woman they want family and good life. Love comes and goes, but you want to eat every day. As I understand, here most of the people want to save some money. Every second post is about "How to save a few bucks". To understand her, try to be in her shoes. Dear friends don't be fooled, those girls sleep spreed their legs not because you are great lovers / fuckers / Brad Pitt / etc. Not because they want or can't have sex. They just try to make living. So pay money or use your hands.

As John Gault said, to understand my posts you have to read the posts I'm responding to.

The subject isn't paying for sex. I don't want to brag, but I consider myself an expert at handing a girl money after she fucks me.

The subject is the women who have mastered the art of convincing men they aren't paying for sex. Woman who make you think you're investing in a relationship.

Most of these girls are good at making us believe they enjoy our company. A few are so good it's easy to forget we're paying for their company. Of course some guys are just easy to fool.

For the record, if Misty had offered to live with me, just as a fuck buddy until either of us got bored, I'd only have saved about $1000. But the emotional damage would have been less.

No need to put myself in her shoes, either. Her mother and friends explained it to me. I was there, she was bored and she didn't have anything else going on. She knew she could wrap me around her little finger and she did. Then she dangled the prize in front of me to see how long I'd dance.

I consider it a very good investment. I learned a great deal, had incredible sex and got an awesome dog out of the deal.

The guy who followed me wasn't so lucky. He ended up buying her an Audi.

[Igor54]

Her name was Misty.

Twenty years ago she was 5 ft 6 inches and 100 pounds of blonde haired, green eyed beauty. She was 27 and perfect. If she had been 4 to 6 inches taller she'd have graced every magazine cover in the world.

I was 10 years older, tall, fit and handsome. Over the previous 8 years I'd gained confidence and was a minor sensation with women online. The internet had exploded and I'd been early to the game. All over the US, lonely women were eager to meet me.

I arrived at a friend's house in San Antonio, TX on Sunday morning, 12 hours late for the party. My friend was a 40 something woman, successful and divorced. Her backyard was nice, private and clothing optional. I spent the midday hanging out naked in the pool with her and another woman. They left me there to pick up Misty from the airport.

When she walked in, I was wearing nothing but a towel and my jaw dropped. I'd met beautiful women, but she was in an entirely different league. I didn't have a chance. I just hoped to see that body naked in the pool.

Three hours later, we were fucking and I was convinced I'd won her over. My planned overnight stay lasted a week and when I left, she left with me..

It is normal. People marry girls, spend their lives and all money to be fucked by their wives. Look at the divorce data in USA, Canada, etc. You spent $5000 over 8 months and had, as you said, all the sex you could handle. It looks like, you've scammed her or she made you a present spending her time for almost no money. Maybe you just did not meet her expectations. What she can expect from you? Create sex? It is funny. They have 5-10 partners a day. As any normal woman they want family and good life. Love comes and goes, but you want to eat every day. As I understand, here most of the people want to save some money. Every second post is about "How to save a few bucks". To understand her, try to be in her shoes. Dear friends don't be fooled, those girls sleep spreed their legs not because you are great lovers / fuckers / Brad Pitt / etc. Not because they want or can't have sex. They just try to make living. So pay money or use your hands.

[JjBee62]

It is kind of hard to put into words. These real sharp girls just almost only have to look at their targets and move in to completely make some guys lose their mind over them. A example would be how when walking in a seedy area and the SW give you that half ass come on look. Well the sharp girls don't give you that sort of look. They look in your eyes and it feels like they really want to be with you. That is just the start. Once you buy some drinks for them it becomes hard to resist their charms. Last time I was in a strip club in MDE one of the most beautiful girls in the place came to my table and looked at me like I was her long lost love. It was hard to shake my head no.

So the help you ask is just for Mongers to think about reality and not be fooled into thinking they are God's gift to women. If you fail it will cost you plenty.

To understand my post you have to look at the posts I'm responding to.

Her name was Misty.

Twenty years ago she was 5 ft 6 inches and 100 pounds of blonde haired, green eyed beauty. She was 27 and perfect. If she had been 4 to 6 inches taller she'd have graced every magazine cover in the world.

I was 10 years older, tall, fit and handsome. Over the previous 8 years I'd gained confidence and was a minor sensation with women online. The internet had exploded and I'd been early to the game. All over the US, lonely women were eager to meet me.

I arrived at a friend's house in San Antonio, TX on Sunday morning, 12 hours late for the party. My friend was a 40 something woman, successful and divorced. Her backyard was nice, private and clothing optional. I spent the midday hanging out naked in the pool with her and another woman. They left me there to pick up Misty from the airport.

When she walked in, I was wearing nothing but a towel and my jaw dropped. I'd met beautiful women, but she was in an entirely different league. I didn't have a chance. I just hoped to see that body naked in the pool.

Three hours later, we were fucking and I was convinced I'd won her over. My planned overnight stay lasted a week and when I left, she left with me.

She stayed for 4 months, never more than 20 feet away. It was another 4 months, before I finally broke the spell she'd cast on me. By that time she had an executive, a bar owner and a contractor in Dallas all convinced she was madly in love with them.

Other than the emotional damage, I got off cheaply; about $5,000 on her over the 8 month period with 4 months of all the sex I could handle. She wasn't after my money. She was bored and wanted to keep her skills sharp.

When someone writes about a woman falling for them, I'm cynical. When she's at the bottom of the economic ladder and you're somewhere between the middle and the top, there's always an ulterior motive. It doesn't matter if she's as pure as Ivory soap. She sees dollar signs. You're spending enough money for her to support her family for 6 to 12 months, for a week's vacation.

Understand, most are good people. They're not trying to scam you. Most honestly believe they love you. You treat them nice, you're sweet, you buy them nice things, but your money is like a Snapchat filter; it turns a John Goodman into a Brad Pitt.

[Mr Enternational]

A example would be how when walking in a seedy area and the SW give you that half ass come on look. Well the sharp girls don't give you that sort of look. They look in your eyes and it feels like they really want to be with you. That is just the start. Once you buy some drinks for them it becomes hard to resist their charms.

I like to keep things in perspective and do not fall for traps. If I see a chick I want to fuck, then I ask how much. Damn small talk and buying drinks for hoes. A chick looking at me or saying this, that, or the other has no effect. Besides, I know that an empty wagon makes the most noise I do the choosing; I don't pretend to be chosen when I coming out of the pocket.

[John Gault]

Can you elaborate on that? Probably that will help when meet these women.

It is kind of hard to put into words. These real sharp girls just almost only have to look at their targets and move in to completely make some guys lose their mind over them. A example would be how when walking in a seedy area and the SW give you that half ass come on look. Well the sharp girls don't give you that sort of look. They look in your eyes and it feels like they really want to be with you. That is just the start. Once you buy some drinks for them it becomes hard to resist their charms. Last time I was in a strip club in MDE one of the most beautiful girls in the place came to my table and looked at me like I was her long lost love. It was hard to shake my head no.

So the help you ask is just for Mongers to think about reality and not be fooled into thinking they are God's gift to women. If you fail it will cost you plenty.

To understand my post you have to look at the posts I'm responding to.

[KilledSoul]

I noticed in the upscale strip clubs in different country's I have visited that some of the girls are so sharp in how they operate that it is almost breath taking to watch them spin their web.

Can you elaborate on that? Probably that will help when meet these women.

[Woodman09]

As far as speaking Spanish goes, I have learnt a few phrases through the duolingo app but still I wouldn't consider that knowing the language.

Pimsleur Conversational Spanish for English Speakers is a pretty good simple method.

[Alp676]

Why would you come to a Spanish-speaking country without knowing a single word of the language? Not putting in any effort and wanting to reap the benefits is like playing the Stock Market, making money off of other people's sweat. I'd give you some tips, but only if you put in the effort.

As far as speaking Spanish goes, I have learnt a few phrases through the duolingo app but still I wouldn't consider that knowing the language.

[John Gault]

No offense, Deviant, but I swear I am going to have to type this every day. THE BEST SA WOMEN ARE NOT *****S. THEY DO NOT SET A PRICE. YOU ARE GIVING THEM A GIFT AND SOMETIMES THEY DO NOT EVEN WANT THAT!

You all really, really need to get out of the working girl mindset with SA. The first girl I was with in Medellin I gave 200 k to. I texted her later to see her and she said that she was unhappy with the gift but she didn't say anything at the time. I offered to give her more, but she then got more and more greedy.

Do you know what I told her? Nothing. Do you know what I told myself? NEXT!

A girl wants too much money? NEXT! There is nothing to be afraid of.

The really smart girls on SA know the payoff is in the long term, and they don't bother with how much for one visit.

I am trying to get a rotation of the best women in Colombia, and I want two in each of the three cities I have picked out. Every time I have picked out a SA girl as a repeat customer, a potential SB, the women have voluntarily taken themselves off SA. I repeat, the best women on SA are not hookers in the sense that they will fuck any guy for money. The top women will only fuck me or fuck you if you are their SD for money.

But the tip top women on SA, the very smartest, will fuck you for free if you are an American. Those are the women who are chasing the most money, the real prize and hopefully, if you are smart, you will understand why.

I have never used SA but I think you are 100% right in your take on the real smart SA girls.

I noticed in the upscale strip clubs in different country's I have visited that some of the girls are so sharp in how they operate that it is almost breath taking to watch them spin their web.

Most guys don't have a chance.