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02-16-20 05:55 #8028
Posts: 1079Originally Posted by JjBee62 [View Original Post]
You can order someone an UBER, Taxi, etc from a continent away if needed.
To each their own, but I agree with you completely here.
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02-16-20 02:57 #8027
Posts: 73Thanks for sharing
Originally Posted by Funkytravel [View Original Post]
Cheers,
Lew.
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02-16-20 00:39 #8026
Posts: 16094Originally Posted by JjBee62 [View Original Post]
She had flown before but forgot about the security part. As a matter of fact one of the pictures in her profile was her inside the plane and that is how I initially started talking to her. I asked where she went.
After she told me that she missed the flight I looked online to see if anyone else had a flight leaving out. There was one. I forgot what compnay. But I told her to tell them I could give her my credit card number for the ticket. They said they would have to have the actual card. Must have been about 8:30 or 9 pm. How the hell could I get her some money to the airport in Barranquilla at that time? All options were exhausted on my end.
I didn't just say too bad so sad when she said she missed the flight. I am a foreigner in the country and I am in a city hundreds of miles away. She is in the place she grew up in.
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02-16-20 00:10 #8025
Posts: 3376Originally Posted by JjBee62 [View Original Post]
What I meant by the better ones not asking for money straight up is the second most sought after prize is a visa to America. I had a fiance visa where a girl stupidly broke up with me. I thank my stars on that now as she would have crushed me as I have seen how greedy and stubborn she was. One of the reasons I had such a hard time with this was how irrational she was being, but I am glad that I had the experience because I learned from it.
If the women can come to America and figure out a way to stay, and they have a transferable degree, they can make 10 X more than they can in Colombia, if they are willing to work, which is an issue for so many of them. I know a woman who sadly just got rejected for a visa. She knew everything about salaries in America from her cousins. She would have been an asset here in America. She is a pretty girl, a solid citizen, and a hard worker.
Of course, the big prize in marriage. It is funny that you say that JJBee about not being lower class because the most recent prospect I met is kind of upper class or upper middle class. She is crazy about me (and I her) comes from a well to do family, and it has an entirely different feel. She has offered to pay for my hotel, buy me cologne, hell she has even offered to sign a prenup. I haven't met anyone like her.
People may say because her family is wealthy she is not greedy, but she is in the sense that she can make out so well money wise from me even if it is not from me directly. Free room, free board, a portion of my pension if I were to die, a home if I die, a huge increase in her income, and the knowledge I have with investing and in my profession. She is so much smarter than anyone else I have met because she really sees the big money in the long term when so few do. That is why she was insulted when I even offered to give her a gift after sex. Every night I call her, and every night we have phone sex. She insists on it. I agree with what ME has said about wanting an asset versus a liability; it is just so hard to find one who gets that, and this one is unique in that she gets being an asset.
I have always thought there is huge money to be made in South America if you could find people to trust. Well, her family has done it, and she already has ideas about how we could earn money in the USA and retire to Colombia. Her family has run successful businesses there and know what it takes and how it can be done.
She even knows it. She told me that she had seven guys who currently want to go out with her, and she has had five boyfriends even though she is in her mid 20's. It is not like she is drop dead gorgeous but more like cute and just very bubbly. She told me the reason so many guys want to date her is, "I am pretty and fun but I also work hard. Most pretty girls do not work that hard here. " I could say that is much the same in the sex prison. Given that she has already made me a fantastic meal and gave me a killer massage and fucked the shit out of me, I believe her. I just have to make sure that she is not crazy.
Even if they are not interested in getting a visa, just getting to know the businessman traveling into their country may yield results. My ex spoke English, was so hot that when she dressed up every guy in the room who wasn't gay was drooling over her, and she had a charisma about her. So she could have made contacts. I told her that every American businessman is looking for a local they can trust, can translate honestly for them, and are looking to increase their sales. You just show them you want to be an asset and prove you are, and they will throw money at you. Sucking out money for the short term is what they always see especially with beautiful women and third world countries. The difference between Saudi Arabia and Venezuela is Venezuela did all it could to fuck over American and other foreign oil companies whereas the Saudis, as messed up as they are, worked with the oil companies for their mutual benefit.
Still, I have told the women that I have been serious with about the pitfalls of my engagement. I am only going to pay at most what a boyfriend pays and that is when we are together, and I am not going to be monogamous unless I directly say so. Of all the things that I am upset about with my ex was that I was in the land of cheap pussy, I was paying her an allowance because I thought she was going to be my wife, and she was refusing me sex. I am now painfully clear on this subject even with the women I am serious with. I am not giving away my monogamy for nothing. Spare me the shit about how faithful you are. I was engaged and there was a whole portion of my ex's life she hid from me. They are all like, "I am not like your ex", but there is no way for me to know otherwise.
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02-15-20 22:59 #8024
Posts: 17First Day
Well had a good first day or very good. I didn't get to the hotel till about 2 am then got up about 5:30. The SA girl I was tweaked had gotten a bit cold and business like on whatsapp. I agreed to 350 but I wanted much of her time. I meet the SA girl and we walked she spoke English fairly well and I enjoyed her company. I'm staying at the a hotel but I had gotten an airbnb. We went to the airbnb and it was a bit weird. We had to get buzzed in and she had to explain to the doorman. I didn't have my luggage (at the hotel) and of course I had the young girl with me. The desk guy called the owner and the SA girl spoke to her. Anyway, I'm hoping to keep both, but stay in the hotel. We'll see, as it's got to be obvious, I just want to use the airbnb as a fuck pad.
Anyway, that's what we did. She was so tight. It was covered, and, mostly, I can't even get off like that, but I did (eventually); not the same level, but still really enjoyed it. I know it's more many of you guys would pay but I really enjoyed the time I spent with her. I may try just a local guide site tomorrow. I can do sex separately, if I want it, but I enjoyed her as a translator as well (even if not cheap). I do hope to see here again. I was so enthralled I spent a lot of time on her. She said she enjoyed it 'too much'. Course that didn't really translate for me.
I sent woodman a email but, honestly, I may be asleep by the time he responds. Been a good day, but a long one.
Maybe I can catch up with him later.
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02-15-20 20:36 #8023
Posts: 5496Originally Posted by MrEnternational [View Original Post]
Looking for an asset? Check.
Expect accountability? Check.
Be a boyfriend not a bank? Check.
Pay $150 to fly a girl from Barranquilla to Bogota? What are you doing over there? You've already got a girl in Bogota, plus Santa Fe. Besides, Viva flies nonstop for about $50 round trip. Then just leave her stranded at the airport? That's a complete you-turn. Something about her was good enough to invest the equivalent of 10 Santa Fe fucks, to get her to Bogota, where you've already got more pussy than a crazy cat lady convention, but you're not willing to pay another $10 to keep those legs open the next time you're in Barranquilla? Or pay nothing at all and just give her 5 minutes of sympathy. Considering what you had already spent, you just screwed yourself to ruin someone else's day.
I'm not sure I'd call what you do a relationship. "I'll be in town for 3 days. We can fuck Tuesday at 10 am and Thursday at 3 pm. Don't be late and don't wear any make-up. Maybe I'll take you out for a drink Thursday night. " There's no reason to throw money at that, especially considering how many of those relationships you have going on around the world. Worst case, there's always plenty of hookers until you find another "girlfriend."
My view is different. If I like someone enough to fly her in, I'm committed. I'm asking if she's ever flown before. I'm walking her through the process. I'm making sure she is going to be on the plane. For the period we've agreed on, I've adopted her. She's my responsibility. I'll also impress upon her that she has responsibilities, mainly to be on the plane. If we're not both committed, I'm wasting money.
If the plane has a problem and diverts to Bucaramanga, I do what needs to be done to get her either to me, or back home. If I'm not willing to see the whole thing through until she's back home safe, there's no way I'm springing for a plane ticket. If she's worth the expense, she's worth enough to see it through.
The same holds true for a girl who catches a taxi to my apartment. Either I'm cancelling before she gets in the taxi, or I'm paying the taxi to take her home if I turn her away.
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02-15-20 18:10 #8022
Posts: 1079Originally Posted by MrEnternational [View Original Post]
Can someone really be this cold?
Some little country bumpkin from Barranquilla gets stuck cause she's naive to traveling and you just leave her cold.
I know you'll have some good line about, ain't your fault, not your problem, etc, etc.
Guess you skipped the empathy line, on creation.
However, once again, to each their own.
Obviously you can live with yourself treating girls like that.
You'll have a good rationalization of why, you write well actually, and that's great for you.
I’m not a fool, I don’t throw money around like a bobo, I don’t let women take advantage of me, however, I do know that things happen, and I’d never leave someone stranded unless they did something with bad intentions.
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02-15-20 16:00 #8021
Posts: 16094Originally Posted by JjBee62 [View Original Post]
My girlfriend is a school lunch lady in a country town in Brazil. She has to ride the bus all night in order to get to the closest city with an airport. That is how country where she lives is. The other day we were supposed to meet in a certain city to start a trip. She missed her flight the first day (did not check in online like I told her to do) so she would not arrive until evening the next day. I don't know if she had to pay to change the ticket or whatever. She never brought that up to me. What I do know is that because we would have to stay an extra night in the hotel because of her late arrival, she called the hotel and made a bank transfer to pay for the extra night before she even got there. That is the type of woman I look for.
On the flip side, I had bought a ticket for a chick in Barranquilla to meet me in Bogota. I paid like $150 round trip. She had to borrow money from her mother to get to the airport. She got there in time but did not know she was supposed to go through security, so she end up missing the flight. That was the last flight of the day. She did not have money to get back home. No idea how she ended up getting back. I have not talked to her since that day and I was pizzed to waste $150 like that. That is not the kind of lady that I look for.
I can not fathom giving a chick that is supposed to be my girlfriend money here and money there. I throw money at hookers for the variety. I know that I can not buy love. So what advantage does it give me to throw money at some chick I am supposed to be in a relationship with? None as far as I can see.
I am of the IronQuinn school. I have money because I only give it to chicks that can tell me how much it is going to cost me and how long she is staying. I know a chick is not with me for money because I do not give them any. Late rent, empty pantries, and school clothes or books for kids ain't none of my fucking business. And when a chick does ask, without warning that is the end of us seeing each other.
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02-15-20 13:48 #8020
Posts: 178Originally Posted by JjBee62 [View Original Post]
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02-15-20 13:27 #8019
Posts: 5740Originally Posted by JohnGault [View Original Post]
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02-15-20 03:12 #8018
Posts: 5496Originally Posted by Igor54 [View Original Post]
The subject isn't paying for sex. I don't want to brag, but I consider myself an expert at handing a girl money after she fucks me.
The subject is the women who have mastered the art of convincing men they aren't paying for sex. Woman who make you think you're investing in a relationship.
Most of these girls are good at making us believe they enjoy our company. A few are so good it's easy to forget we're paying for their company. Of course some guys are just easy to fool.
For the record, if Misty had offered to live with me, just as a fuck buddy until either of us got bored, I'd only have saved about $1000. But the emotional damage would have been less.
No need to put myself in her shoes, either. Her mother and friends explained it to me. I was there, she was bored and she didn't have anything else going on. She knew she could wrap me around her little finger and she did. Then she dangled the prize in front of me to see how long I'd dance.
I consider it a very good investment. I learned a great deal, had incredible sex and got an awesome dog out of the deal.
The guy who followed me wasn't so lucky. He ended up buying her an Audi.
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02-14-20 19:31 #8017
Posts: 167Originally Posted by JjBee62 [View Original Post]
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02-14-20 16:53 #8016
Posts: 5496I understood completely
Originally Posted by JohnGault [View Original Post]
Twenty years ago she was 5 ft 6 inches and 100 pounds of blonde haired, green eyed beauty. She was 27 and perfect. If she had been 4 to 6 inches taller she'd have graced every magazine cover in the world.
I was 10 years older, tall, fit and handsome. Over the previous 8 years I'd gained confidence and was a minor sensation with women online. The internet had exploded and I'd been early to the game. All over the US, lonely women were eager to meet me.
I arrived at a friend's house in San Antonio, TX on Sunday morning, 12 hours late for the party. My friend was a 40 something woman, successful and divorced. Her backyard was nice, private and clothing optional. I spent the midday hanging out naked in the pool with her and another woman. They left me there to pick up Misty from the airport.
When she walked in, I was wearing nothing but a towel and my jaw dropped. I'd met beautiful women, but she was in an entirely different league. I didn't have a chance. I just hoped to see that body naked in the pool.
Three hours later, we were fucking and I was convinced I'd won her over. My planned overnight stay lasted a week and when I left, she left with me.
She stayed for 4 months, never more than 20 feet away. It was another 4 months, before I finally broke the spell she'd cast on me. By that time she had an executive, a bar owner and a contractor in Dallas all convinced she was madly in love with them.
Other than the emotional damage, I got off cheaply; about $5,000 on her over the 8 month period with 4 months of all the sex I could handle. She wasn't after my money. She was bored and wanted to keep her skills sharp.
When someone writes about a woman falling for them, I'm cynical. When she's at the bottom of the economic ladder and you're somewhere between the middle and the top, there's always an ulterior motive. It doesn't matter if she's as pure as Ivory soap. She sees dollar signs. You're spending enough money for her to support her family for 6 to 12 months, for a week's vacation.
Understand, most are good people. They're not trying to scam you. Most honestly believe they love you. You treat them nice, you're sweet, you buy them nice things, but your money is like a Snapchat filter; it turns a John Goodman into a Brad Pitt.
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02-14-20 16:32 #8015
Posts: 16094Originally Posted by JohnGault [View Original Post]
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02-14-20 15:00 #8014
Posts: 1363I will try to explain.
Originally Posted by KilledSoul [View Original Post]
So the help you ask is just for Mongers to think about reality and not be fooled into thinking they are God's gift to women. If you fail it will cost you plenty.
To understand my post you have to look at the posts I'm responding to.