Manila

[Escort Fan]

If you are not a liar, cheat or scammer what's there to hide?

I never understood this "privacy" thing.

I've visited Manila 3 x to 4 x a year for the past 10 or 12 years. I've had a few problems. Maybe 1% of my "dates".

I'm pretty sure I treat the girl very well, but let's be realistic not every girl that we meet are mentally balanced, and that's a potential issue if a nutjob passes your screening process.

In no particular order I can remember a ladyboy from Tinder that omitted to mention being a LB and not handling rejection too well. He / she threatened that her uncle or whatever worked in the Police or border police and would make my life miserable. Despite my solid experience the level of hysteria made the situation a bit hard to handled. I've had one girl that the pregnancy blackmail 7 or 8 years ago, and another one that demanded money with insistence claiming I gave her herpes or some minor STD like that (she wanted 5 K to pass some dermatological tests at Makati Med), but as I do full STD screen test every 3 months I am more than certain that I have never transmitted any disease to a girl.

I don't mind that all my regular girls have my full details, but I'm not particularly pleased if a bar girl knows my details, potentially share it with her mamasan and coworkers. Then they can google you, find your address, your linkedin profile etc. Being single I'm not too worried but not really pleased either.

[Goferring]

I'd like to talk about privacy and the methods you use to keep yours in this digital world!

Some guys take the whole second persona to a whole other level. They are welcome to do this but, in all honesty, I think the only person that they are kidding is themself. You've mentioned several ways that a girl can get a John"s true name etc. I'd also suggest that asians generally have a far broader circle of friends and family than we do in the west. Add in endemic corruption and it would be extremely easy for any girl to get accurate contact details from hotel, transport etc personnel if she wanted.

I keep a second travel phone with it's own contact apps etc and I'm careful that it doesn't cross pollinate my regular home phone and accounts. I certainly don't want difficult to explain messages or friend requests appearing on my civilian FB account for example. This is more for my civilian life's benefit than the girls'.

I tend to treat girls half decently and make it clear that I never send cash while we are not face to face. For these reasons they have an incentive to keep me on side rather than try for extorsion etc.

The very few times that girls have tried to get extra cash from me, I've found that it's very quickly over when they find it won't be forthcoming. I've never had them put any effort into vengeance for it's own sake.

Cheers. G.

[Mr Enternational]

If you are not a liar, cheat or scammer what's there to hide?

I never understood this "privacy" thing.

What if the girl is a liar, cheat, or scammer? Knowing your name is already half the battle. Being from the streets, everybody had a street name and nobody went by their government name. I guess that is where it comes from with me.

Hell, even most hookers or strippers do not use their real names. Sometimes I act like I do not believe they are the age they tell me and in their anxiousness to show me wrong they whip out their ID that has their real name on it.

I will admit that in all these years I don't think there has been an issue, but it is all just a part of covering your tracks. Just like you put your valuables in the safe and hide the minibar stuff, you also give them a fake name.

[Lefeu]

If you are not a liar, cheat or scammer what's there to hide?

I never understood this "privacy" thing.

What if he has an SO? I know a case where my buddy was screwed by a Filipino free lancer. He helped her get a visa to the US, and she spent a month with him. He got her a hotel room and even took her to Vegas. But she was expecting to stay in the US and marry him. When it did not happen, she wreaked havoc with his life. She managed to get most of his email addresses and passwords.

[Member #4698]

If you are not a liar, cheat or scammer what's there to hide?

I never understood this "privacy" thing.

I am not concerned either. In 30 years of mongering I have never had a problem with girls knowing my name. Hell, I exchange Line & Viber ID's with the girls I like even after a first night. I exchange email addresses and a lot more with my perennial repeat girls. My favorite girls all know my name. So what ? I am a single/divorced American man. I trust my girls not to do anything real stupid, so as to upset the apple cart and force me to drop them. The worst blowback I have ever received was the occasional sob story and a plea for some wired money.

I would not enjoy this sport half as much as I do if I worried about my ID falling into the "wrong hands", or getting a girl pregnant, or even catching something. It is all part of the game. Use your senses and don't be stupid. That's all. Basically there is nothing to worry about. I might add that I am not a politician's son or a public figure. I got nothing to hide. I am an open book. I like young Asian girls and they kind of like me back in their own way. If anyone has a problem with that they should stay home, get married, eat too much, and never get laid. Ha Ha. Up to you.

[ForkTruck]

I'd like to talk about privacy and the methods you use to keep yours in this digital world!I meet a lot of girls in Manila and lately I noticed that almost all girls know my full name there is no privacy anymore. I found myself at disadvantage here because often I don't know the girl full name (then again I don't bother to find out).

I was concerned about them knowing my name for awhile but after thinking about it, not any longer. My name is common (first and last name) so it is useless by itself for anyone to find me. My phone is dedicated to Philippines so all pinay calls are corraled there. Other precautions I take are that I do not ever use Facebook, try hard to avoid getting in photos, and always pay by cash in country avoiding CC identity theft. My phone and laptop are password protected so useless if looked at while I am in the shower or sleeping. Maybe I am too complacent for some gents but I am divorced with no SO to worry about. The biggest hole I see in my privacy is the hotel registration detail made thru a lodging travel site. With inside help from a desk person someone could find out a lot.

[Dg8787]

I'd like to talk about privacy and the methods you use to keep yours in this digital world!

I meet a lot of girls in Manila and lately I noticed that almost all girls know my full name there is no privacy anymore. I found myself at disadvantage here because often I don't know the girl full name (then again I don't bother to find out).

Often I send girls a Grab. It presents two advantages, the girls is flattered that you send her a car, and you can monitor where she is, which is such a useful information vs. The girl telling her she's OTW when she's not. But if the girl pays attention, she can see your full name on the phone of the driver.

At the hotel when you go take shower, when you take a nap, the girl will often turn on the TV. In any semi upscale hotel when you turn the TV on, it displays a message like "Hello John Doe, welcome to our hotel blah blah ".

Note that aside from the digital world, when you go take a shower the girl can simply check your luggage tag but if you're smart you can take it off.

When you're in the hallways or at the buffet, hotel staff tend to call by your name especially if you're a regular client or what they consider a (semi) VIP (IE: you're a gold or platinum member in their hotel group loyalty program).

When you're home girls will ask you for 500 pesos to buy rice or whatever. Once in a while with a girl you want to see again, you're inclined to send her. Now the girl are smart they have paypal and of course if you send them a paypal there goes your privacy).

If a girl wants revenge, wants to blackmail you claiming she's pregnant etc. I can see a lot of reasons where the lack of privacy can become a problem. Especially for those fishing on dating sites and making semi fake promises and having girls dreaming of a better future getting brutally dumped after the first date!

If you are not a liar, cheat or scammer what's there to hide?

I never understood this "privacy" thing.

[Blanquiceleste]

I meet a lot of girls in Manila and lately I noticed that almost all girls know my full name there is no privacy anymore. I found myself at disadvantage here because often I don't know the girl full name (then again I don't bother to find out).

I hope you are speaking for yourself mate. In over 20 years in this hobby, no once have I dropped the ball on my privacy. The girls know me by the name I wish to be known. Sure, your boarding pass, baggage tags, hotel TV display could all give things away, but that is down to how careful you are. Please avoid generalizing this.

As for sending money online, even to girls you know and want to see again, that is a slippery slope. But you know that already.

[Engine Driver]

I red some time ago that the mayor of Quezon city closed all girly bars.

And Cubao city is a part of Quezon city as far as my knowledge reaches.

So can anybody confirm all the barfun is gone in Quezon and cubao (and maybe even in Marikina and Antipolo).

I was in all locations 5 years ago. For the average farang it is all to expensive, but the same I say about Pasay and ermita and malate.

I am Dutch so my English is not perfect web administrator, you try type in dutch or Tagalog once.

I'm sorry, but I never made it to QC. There was simply too much action in Makati. Hahaha.

[Escort Fan]

I'd like to talk about privacy and the methods you use to keep yours in this digital world!

I meet a lot of girls in Manila and lately I noticed that almost all girls know my full name there is no privacy anymore. I found myself at disadvantage here because often I don't know the girl full name (then again I don't bother to find out).

Often I send girls a Grab. It presents two advantages, the girls is flattered that you send her a car, and you can monitor where she is, which is such a useful information vs. The girl telling her she's OTW when she's not. But if the girl pays attention, she can see your full name on the phone of the driver.

At the hotel when you go take shower, when you take a nap, the girl will often turn on the TV. In any semi upscale hotel when you turn the TV on, it displays a message like "Hello John Doe, welcome to our hotel blah blah ".

Note that aside from the digital world, when you go take a shower the girl can simply check your luggage tag but if you're smart you can take it off.

When you're in the hallways or at the buffet, hotel staff tend to call by your name especially if you're a regular client or what they consider a (semi) VIP (IE: you're a gold or platinum member in their hotel group loyalty program).

When you're home girls will ask you for 500 pesos to buy rice or whatever. Once in a while with a girl you want to see again, you're inclined to send her. Now the girl are smart they have paypal and of course if you send them a paypal there goes your privacy).

If a girl wants revenge, wants to blackmail you claiming she's pregnant etc. I can see a lot of reasons where the lack of privacy can become a problem. Especially for those fishing on dating sites and making semi fake promises and having girls dreaming of a better future getting brutally dumped after the first date!

[Blanquiceleste]

Mr E,

Please don't feel slighted. You need to think like a Flip hooker to get to the bottom of your problem. If I was a Flip hooker, would I want to be pounded mercilessly for 4-hours, then literally torn apart by that rogue elephant monster cock for only 1,000 pesos? Or would I prefer to hang out with a cool Jap half your age, drink nice tequila and then get paid 5,000 pesos (2-2-5), plus transport money?

This logic is applicable to anyone, not just a Flip hooker.

Would you want a job where you get paid less, work 60 hour weeks and have a boss who makes your ex-wife look like Mother Teresa? Or would you have a nice cushy job, making good money and a boss who knows nothing about what you do and leaves you in peace?

[Member #4698]

I met one potential girl in one of the bars and planned to go back to bar-fine her on Friday night. But on Friday night I met someone else at another bar on P Burgos, and ended up bar-fining her, for PHP3900. I invited her to spend the night, until at least noon on Saturday and asked her how much she wanted, but she said 'up to you' and I left it at that. Anyway, she stayed till about 11.30 am on Saturday morning. No problem bringing her into the hotel, no ID was asked for. She is 19 (I am in my early 60's), which is in my preferred age range (18 to 23), slim, and she gave me one of those experiences that I will never forget! I say that as someone who has been mongering for about 40 years. I had planned (before our session started) to give her PHP2000, but ended giving her PHP3000 plus PHP500 for a taxi and a meal, she seemed well pleased. Well worth it, for a truly memorable experience.

The experience was in complete contrast to my trip to Pattaya in November. I bar-fined a girl out of one of the go-go bars on Walking St, bar-fine was THB1500 and she asked for THB2000 for S / T (I asked for 1 hour and she agreed) and she was not interested in an all-night. She was 20, slim, but with huge natural tits. In the bar she did not object to me fondling her tits and a kiss on her lips, but in the S / T hotel, in Walking St, her mood changed. No kissing, not even a peck on the cheeks, and she objected to my attempt at fondling and licking her tits. And she refused any photos. So, after a quick fuck, she showered, then told me she had to go. I gently reminded her we had agreed to an hour, and that I still had about 30 minutes left, but she was adamant that she had to go. I was not in the mood for an argument so gave her her money and that was it. A very forgettable fuck and a very forgettable experience!

Anyway, here's a few photos of the girl I spent the night with in Manila;.

Good report Mdemde covering both the highs (Burgos) and lows (Pat) of your recent mongering experiences. I especially liked the photos which lended credence to your reportage. I have just one criticism and that is you neglected to tell us the names of the bars you visited. That information is critical because without it I really didn't need to read what you posted. I already know that certain Burgos Bars have sexy young girls that know how to deliver the goods. Been there, loved it.

[Dion Cassius]

I'm in the Philippines for 3 weeks, I arrived last Thursday and was in Manila for 4 days, in Makati, at the Lub the hotel (on Makati Ave near the top end of P Burgos), and am now in Cebu. When I left my hotel in Makati on Monday morning at about 10 am, it only took 20 minutes to get to the airport. But there was a massive queue of people lining up outside the Domestic Terminal building waiting to get into the Terminal building where there is a scanner located at the actual entrance. It took just over 20 minutes to get to the entrance where my bags were scanned then I was inside the Terminal building, and then a brief wait at the check-in counter for my airline.

So, last Thursday night I headed out to P Burgos, checked out a few bars, plenty of FLs about, some offering a session for just PHP500 but I did not see anyone who made me feel horny! I met one potential girl in one of the bars and planned to go back to bar-fine her on Friday night. But on Friday night I met someone else at another bar on P Burgos, and ended up bar-fining her, for PHP3900. I invited her to spend the night, until at least noon on Saturday and asked her how much she wanted, but she said 'up to you' and I left it at that. Anyway, she stayed till about 11.30 am on Saturday morning. No problem bringing her into the hotel, no ID was asked for. She is 19 (I am in my early 60's), which is in my preferred age range (18 to 23), slim, and she gave me one of those experiences that I will never forget! I say that as someone who has been mongering for about 40 years. I had planned (before our session started) to give her PHP2000, but ended giving her PHP3000 plus PHP500 for a taxi and a meal, she seemed well pleased. Well worth it, for a truly memorable experience.

The experience was in complete contrast to my trip to Pattaya in November. I had two girls, the first girl I had met on Thai Friendly a few days prior to the trip, we met up on my first night, had sex, and when I went to give her the agreed price of THB1500 for S / T I did a quick count in my wallet, in front of her, and noticed I was THB4000 light! To cut a long story short, I got the 4000 back, then gave her THB1500 and she left. The sex was nothing special.

Two days later I bar-fined a girl out of one of the go-go bars on Walking St, bar-fine was THB1500 and she asked for THB2000 for S / T (I asked for 1 hour and she agreed) and she was not interested in an all-night. She was 20, slim, but with huge natural tits. In the bar she did not object to me fondling her tits and a kiss on her lips, but in the S / T hotel, in Walking St, her mood changed. No kissing, not even a peck on the cheeks, and she objected to my attempt at fondling and licking her tits. And she refused any photos. So, after a quick fuck, she showered, then told me she had to go. I gently reminded her we had agreed to an hour, and that I still had about 30 minutes left, but she was adamant that she had to go. I was not in the mood for an argument so gave her her money and that was it. A very forgettable fuck and a very forgettable experience!

Anyway, here's a few photos of the girl I spent the night with in Manila;.

Nice catch! Congratulations.

[Retgilpo]

I red some time ago that the mayor of Quezon city closed all girly bars.

And Cubao city is a part of Quezon city as far as my knowledge reaches.

So can anybody confirm all the barfun is gone in Quezon and cubao (and maybe even in Marikina and Antipolo).

I was in all locations 5 years ago. For the average farang it is all to expensive, but the same I say about Pasay and ermita and malate.

I am Dutch so my English is not perfect web administrator, you try type in dutch or Tagalog once.

I've RTFF and know this is in the wrong thread.

I'd appreciate some advice on Quezon City. I'm thinking of spending a couple of nights in QC to check out the scene. Should I be staying along Timog Avenue or Aurora Boulevard, Cubao for better mongering action. I'm not really into KTVs. I'm looking for bars with girls you can barfine, bars with freelancers. Another monger recently wrote about his positive experience at Bang Bang-ali Bar, just off Aurora. I appreciate that patrons will all be Filipinos and understand the risks, but am really curious.

Also, if my international flight is leaving at 8. 00 pm at NAIA, what time should I be leaving QC by cab?

[Bushes]

I went to Robinson's yesterday to meet up with another DIA chick. I walked in and stood at the post in front of Starbucks and Krispy Kreme. A chick came up to me asking if I wanted girls. I told her no that I was waiting for someone. She asked if I liked small, medium, or large. I told her it depends on my mood. She pointed to 3 chicks that were standing closer to Starbucks. I told her that I had been coming here for years and knew the routine of Robinson's girls.

I would not have wanted any of them that were there at that moment, but she insisted I take her whatsapp and message her when I wanted girls. Her name is Stevie. She said like Stevie Wonder.

I have started avoiding meeting girls at Starbucks. Had it happen in Asia over the years whereby the girls were asked to leave if they did not buy something. WTF. Starting to sound like the US locations.

I thought they were Korean but the waitress knew they were Japanese. I also knew they did not like me because when I spoke they said absolutely nothing. They looked at me like I was an alien and ran away from me to get closer to the Japaneguys.

It is like going to a restaurant where the waiters are snootier than you. Could never understand why people keep going back. Same with the pros. Never understood the rationale of a hooker with an inflated ego. I would just move on to another with a better attitude. There are plenty of other girls.