FKK Arabella / Villa Venus / Sauna Grimberg - NRW AO Clubs

[Sirioja]

Why are the girls there if they are so disinterested in doing sessions that they avoid and discourage customers? Aren't they there to make money? Or is some handler forcing them to be there and the girls' response is OK, you can force me to be here but I'm going to do as few sessions as possible? Otherwise, it makes no sense for the girls to waste their time in a club actively discouraging business that would give them the money they are presumably there for.

Do you think most of RTC WGs are free? Just arrive just before opening and look at kind of taxis.

[Optimist]

Eastgoing. You describe so well the now established phenomenon of the Precious Princesses who lack any respect for their clients. These girls know that they can get away with anything. Luckily there are a few girls and clubs where the girls do not look down their Princess noses at us lower forms of beings. As long as these remain I will still visit.

Cheers.

O.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

Why are the girls there if they are so disinterested in doing sessions that they avoid and discourage customers? Aren't they there to make money? Or is some handler forcing them to be there and the girls' response is OK, you can force me to be here but I'm going to do as few sessions as possible? Otherwise, it makes no sense for the girls to waste their time in a club actively discouraging business that would give them the money they are presumably there for.

[Christian G]

EG great to see you here again. Your misadventures are always entertain and funny to read. Pity for the sad news you gave to us but I waiting to read about your time in the "normal" clubs.

[Sirioja]

Sirioja,

I respect all points of view and recognize that my needs and desires are questionable to say the least. But unfortunately it doesn't suit me to pay 50 for the room, plus 50 for kissing, plus 50 for fingering, plus 50 for licking, plus 50 for BBBJ (BTW both could catch diseases with this insane action, especially the girls), plus 50 for CIM, plus 100 for covered anal, plus god knows how much for whatelse. Also because I find the skills, technique, good will, endurance and patience of the girls (which often are not that much more beautiful either) of "normal clubs" much beneath the level of the most scarce RTCs girls.

When I post in the threads of the "normal clubs" I visited, you will understand better my points.

And I would like to add that IMHO opinion, when a man uses a condom, he's not fucking a woman, a pussy (or ass or mouth), he is fucking a condom! Would you enjoy your favourite meal, say chicken, wrapped into something, into lattex?

I'd enjoy more an oily wank, at least it would be flesh against wet flesh, like the real thing. With the condom, if the dick was, for example, in a hand, possibly with some spit, the man wouldn't realize and would unload proudly.

Your funny posts about your saggy turtles experiences really entertained me yesterday on my long drive from Belarus model Katja too wild for me while fucking on north Barcelona to a girl I was told about since years, but never saw her before, usually working at too expensive Aphrodisia, but yesterday at Amesia ex Bumsalp, 1000 kms, only stopping for gas and oil in engine because Audi sold me DTM car, but I was laughing reading you, even having to push, fortunately Spain and France are not Switzerland and I was much faster on motorway in mountains than with works every kilometer in Germany, then Audi don t understand how I kill brakes discs in less than 100 000 kms, but when Yyu kick in brakes from over 200 down to 80 or 60 every kilometer. Anyway, really entertaining on this long time driving. For me, 30 € is too expensive for girls I would not go for free, I pay for beauty and after I try to manage, even I failed on last night, getting only low level sex. I agree better feeling without condom and I refuse CBJ, without or let s go fuck, but for sex, I m only interested with exclusive girls, those who lose control and look so lost after, they don t tell anything about, they don t ask extra, but most come to repeat, much more enjoyable than ugly short turtles. Princesses give me the biggest pleasure when making them cum and then they change behavior, some even ask for again. I pay more for pleasure in eyes and mind than to empty balls. Little death is not big pleasure for me, when I need beauty to have real pleasure. Each one own game of course.

[Gino02]

Sirioja,

I would like to add that IMHO opinion, when a man uses a condom, he's not fucking a woman, a pussy (or ass or mouth), he is fucking a condom! Would you enjoy your favourite meal, say chicken, wrapped into something, into lattex?

This. Probably THE best explanation of why I prefer AO and hate to deal with condoms! Thank you EG! You articulated it so much better than I ever could.

[EastGoing]

Optimist,

Thanks for your esteem, I am flattered, but long gone are those days. Today's girls are fleeing from many customers, not only from me.

Their lack of intelligence, politeness, education, respect, savoir faire, good manners, etc. is prodigious. You normally don't need to understand romanian or any other language to observe gestures, facial expressions, body language, tones of voice.

The "old" girls are worn out inside and outside, I remember some of them since my first trip to RTCs (Denisa in Arabella, Larissa in Venus, Katy in Grimberg, etc.)

The very majority of the (also relatively) new ones are presumptuous, arrogant, precious, delicate, ipersensitive "princesses" good at nothing with not even the slightest will to do anything, thinking to be beauty queens. Try to go to Verena and sit beside Erika, Vanessa, Karina, just to mention a few, the best looking ones. They are less than 160 cm tall, I mean short, but they will look at you from top to toes downwards from their cloud.

At hand, I remember only the mentioned Lily and Aurelia in Verena having a smile on the face, even continuously, while the other ones are sad, disappointed, upset, sleepy, uninterested, watching the ceiling or the floor, anyway anywhere apart from the direction of customers, even if they are standing in front or even sitting besides on the same couch.
Try to go to Dietzenbach and experience what it means to sit beside Amira, Tania, Anna for instance, while the other girls make comments, recommendations, pull out your files with details which may not even be true (also because you may not have zimmered the "spies"), showering you with "compliments", while your chosen one totally ignores you. Customers are even "scared", I saw a man with white hair trying three times to be received before succeeding among puffs, firing eyes and slamming bags; another one being shown the third finger by Anna for just walking in her direction, just to mention a couple of RTCs episodes among the plenty.

The worst one was in Sharks: an elderly man arm in arm with a girl while lining up for eating. They were talking with smiles, each one in their own language, looking at each other's eyes like lovebirds, he was clearly living a dream, dripping love with "schatzi, meine liebe", bla bla in deutsche that I couldn't understand, but she was wishing him to suffocate with the food stuck in his throat, to die before arriving back home that night but not before she had taken all the money he had in his wallet, etc. , even kissing him! The atmosphere was nice, the other girls around them were laughing watching the scene, he was the protagonist of the movie, of the fairy tale: it could have been their marriage, and perhaps that was what he was feeling. He was genuinely happy to hold the hand of his beloved princess who was smiling at him, kissing him, talking with sweet voice unknown sweet words which had of course to be full of love and appreciation, maybe in the future she would have taught him her language.

Perhaps later he went home and wrote in some forum of how lovely and kind was that girl who made him so happy even eating with him, making him feel proud for his conquest in front of the other less lucky men, showing her girlfriends how important he was for her, what great moments he had that day, maybe recommending her or maybe not.. if he is jealous of his princess..

F...ing itches

[EastGoing]

Sirioja,

I respect all points of view and recognize that my needs and desires are questionable to say the least. But unfortunately it doesn't suit me to pay 50 for the room, plus 50 for kissing, plus 50 for fingering, plus 50 for licking, plus 50 for BBBJ (BTW both could catch diseases with this insane action, especially the girls), plus 50 for CIM, plus 100 for covered anal, plus god knows how much for whatelse. Also because I find the skills, technique, good will, endurance and patience of the girls (which often are not that much more beautiful either) of "normal clubs" much beneath the level of the most scarce RTCs girls.

When I post in the threads of the "normal clubs" I visited, you will understand better my points.

And I would like to add that IMHO opinion, when a man uses a condom, he's not fucking a woman, a pussy (or ass or mouth), he is fucking a condom! Would you enjoy your favourite meal, say chicken, wrapped into something, into lattex?

I'd enjoy more an oily wank, at least it would be flesh against wet flesh, like the real thing. With the condom, if the dick was, for example, in a hand, possibly with some spit, the man wouldn't realize and would unload proudly.

It's a trick used by black girls in the street, also in your France: they get off the car and slightly bend over in a dark place, put condom on, with one hand they hold your dick drawing you towards their ass, then they move their butt a bit against you like if they were leaning your dick on outer pussy and putting it inside, but instead they slide it into their other hand, where they had previously spitted, and hold the grip. A few minutes of rubbing and you'll go home proud and happy that you even felt the vaginal muscles of the girl. LOL!

If they take you home, they will mostly want to fuck in spoon position, never doggy. After placing the condom, they will put your dick between their thighs kept very close, once again you are likely not to realize, even if this version is easier to detect. If and when you do, you'll agree that your dick just slipped out. LOL!

This said, I fully agree that unprotected sex shouldn't be had nor offered, but it's a bit hypocritical to distinguish lighter versions like BBBJ and cunnilingus, even if surely less risky.

P.S. This evening where I live I got a BBBJ with CIM for 30 euros in car by a newly arrived romanian provider who refused to fuck AO. I wish she had Ionela's teeth, because my dick got a bit scarred by this rough real vampire. BTW, in Germany you won't get a BBBJ with CIM for 30 euros, not even in RTCs, because you pay entrance ;-)

[Optimist]

EastGoing. Your trip may have been a catastrophe, with the girls trying to flee from you despite being imprisoned in the room with you to do things of which their mothers would not approve, but I know that on other occasions you have entranced many a Romanian beauty, to the point where they were almost paying you to take them to a room. Thanks for the entertaining report.

By the way I shall this week be seeing the girl who was on the phone in the front of a club, and will find out what her issue was.

[Sirioja]

Maybe these places are not the best to find beauties with high level for 30. I wonder why high level top class would work taking risks for their life for 30. We get from what we buy and what we are. Looking for women, I still find pleasure, but I'm honest, not for 30. But a Belarus model, blond with green eyes, slim with long legs, lovely with a wow smile like a little girl, I fucked her sporty for 30 mn, no you are big, she wanted I finish, so, in her mouth, for 140 for 1 h. She returned to me and showed me photos of her flesh. Only bad point is she is becoming a little bit too wild for me when fucking, when she is so sweet on foreplay, kissing and chatting, so I let her, for a run at the moment from north Barcelona to Amesia Zurich.

[EastGoing]

This club was supposed to be useful because of its all day 15 euros entrance, so whenever you were desperate somewhere else or you were out of happy hours in other clubs, you could come here.

It had a daily average of 6-7 women, all romanians, seen some 10 in total, about half already known, basically from verena.

On my first visit I had entered having suicide purposes after one hour in Freude on the afternoon I had landed. Those 30 euros were cursing me from hell nomore than I was cursing myself for going back to Germany "against my will". So, I entered and greeted my 15 euros wondering if they would have had the same destiny of their unlucky brothers. Obviously, no girls in sight inspite of 2 cars only in the parking, anyway I didn't look at anything, I didn't say anything and went to the dressing room. When I came out the first girl I saw was Jonela, new to me, a fuckable body for RTCs standards, not short and on the slim side, I just told her "zimmer" and upstairs we went for the first room of my trip.

WTF, when we exchanged a couple of words in our poor german, I lost the count of the missing teeth. The door was locked so I couldn't run out, the window was blocked so I couldn't put into practice the purposes I had entered with, my dick was regretting not being chewed or at least bitten and was saggier than most of the unwatchable boobs I have seen in my RTC career. I felt hopeless.

In her honor, in a few minutes of relentless work, she managed to give him enough strength to manage to get inside her pussy (from behind!) and make the miracle.

I have met, also in this trip, quite a few girls who stop blowing after about one minute without results declaring the clinical decease of the patient. Then discussions start and furtherly spoil the mood. So I must praise Jonela for her genuine efforts, appreciate her hard work and patience, eventually I found out she's also an ok person not being upset with me because I didn't make anymore rooms with her (many bitches do tamper, insult, etc. if you don't go or don't repeat).

Another decent girl was Monika, young, not slim, but in the overall fuckable, nice smile with beautiful teeth and gums, for about one minute I even managed to "rape" a proper kiss, she said she doesn't do that and that I had to be happy with that.
To give you a clue of how happy I was in this trip (but of course everything is subjective), that minute of kissing is second only to the kisses I exchanged with a quite chubby girl I had to take twice in Dulmen because of lack of alternatives and of the bloody 4 prepaid rooms bought when entering.
Monika carried out the task well, I met her again on duty only on my second visit, but she was upset for her own reasons and didn't notice I tried twice to be acknowledged, so I changed target. On the following visit she was in civilian uniform, brightly smiled at me, but I didn't dare to suggest anything.

Room topscorer Lily, small slim pretty gypsy, she declares 23 years and 3 children, I would have said hardly 18 and 1 child. Small saggy breasts, stretchmarks even in the lower back, childish, sweet, cheerful, playful, funny, pretty face with witty pretty eyes and a bright smile that you can't help noticing in these cemeteries which ALL FKKs have become.

She keeps her contagious good mood even in the room, where she's present materially and spiritually and keeps company to you while you try to carry out your dreadful task. I mean that you are not alone in the room or you are not with a mumbling agonizing doll desperately crawling away from you. I have always preferred wide rooms to avoid suffocation and sweating, but I am realizing that small ones limit the chances of escape of the girls who try to move away from you while you fuck them doggy, spoon, etc.

Back to Lily, she doesn't kiss properly and keeps an eye on clock, but with discretion. Practically the most valid new girl I managed to find, anyway this judgement is due also to the lack of alternatives. You won't fly there for her, you won't wake up in your german accommodation salivating, having hard-ons and thinking to go to her, but after a short while in F39, just to mention a random club, you will think that she could be a good medicine to heal from depression and save your day regardless of the mere outcome of the session.

I zimmered also Cosmina, slim, short, a facial expression which would scare off a rapist, she appeared on the scenes some 6 years ago with a cousin. I thought I had been with her back then and that had been a disaster, but she said we never went to the room together, that I had been with the cousin. I found it strange since we had met also in other clubs, but she was friendly and talkative in all my visits, so in the end we remedied. Nothing special nor in good nor in bad, but was far better than I expected given the preambles (and the facial expression). No pains, no reproaches, no impatience. Actually, we had a couple of misunderstandings about do's and don't's and I trespassed a limitation that she put, but she didn't even get upset, of course she didn't take that with a smile, LOL, to be honest I still don't know her dental situation, but it doesn't matter.

What a lucky privileged guy I was in this club!

[EastGoing]

Visited last week, line up is a repetition of past posts and an anticipation of future ones for the forthcoming decades: Angie, Sissi, Katy, Micky, etc. plus a couple of (for me) new little cows.

One had such a harsh expression on the face, such an attitude, such a rejection in whatever she spoke about (even with the other girls) that I decided nearly immediately to not even try to zimmer her, anyway she soon entered a sex related discussion and confirmed that she couldn't tolerate a few things, I don't even remember exactly which ones, but I recall thinking they were the base of the job. I am not even sure of the name, it should be Cosmina, anyway blonde on the chubby side, absence of smile-related wrinkles.

So, if I wanted to honor the entrance fee, I was forced to try only the other one, Ella, blackish skin, a sort of indian face with a sweet smile which deceived me.

I had heard Katy (with new boobs, should she count as a new girl?) expressing to Kristina her doubts about the "endurance" of the calf vs the excessive duration of the expected action of a room with me (mind you, all my NRW sessions, apart from 2 of 30, were 20 minutes).

Bearing in mind that in every room at least a couple of minutes are void because of putting down towels, closing well doors and checking windows and radiators, taking shoes off and other excuses to waste time, then laying down trying to talk more (but why rushing to room and not staying longer on couches if girls want to chat?), then some sort of fake caresses which would make your dog walk away, then a sort of frantic blowjob, how much time you are left to destroy those dry crystal pussies with your hot iron bar?

However, after about 9 minutes in the room, we started a discussion about me fucking too much, and anyway the time would have been over in a couple of minutes, and anyway I was clearly taking too long to finish and probably was not going to unload, otherwise I should have already done it, so I was just cruelly torturing her for nothing, abusing her time, body and patience, etc.

My one-eyed head had already suffered enough for the sight of her size and abandoned us to our discussions of maths, biology, chemistry, etc. until time was really nearly over.

Admirably, holding the well deserved 30 euros in her hand as if they were toilet paper, downstairs she complained about how bad the room was.

Perhaps we customers should require to synchronize all watches with GMT and go to the room with witnesses and notaries.

P.S. Jimmy and Optimist, thanks for your appreciation.

[Optimist]

Eastgoing. Nice to hear from you after long absence. If even the Casanova of the red carpets cannot find magic I know those of us who wander the clubs with pedestrian charm will be lost in a monochrome misery.

But at least I am having fun in non rtc clubs (provided my airline can tell me if the flights are flying or not).

[Jimmy Boy 99]

Hilarious post! Thanks for the update. Sad to see what has happened to these clubs.

[EastGoing]

I am back from an unnecessary trip unnecessarily long in what is nowadays, but IMHO starting from 7/2017 with the new law, ex sex paradise Germany. I visited a couple of private buildings, RLDs, RTCs and normal club as well, and I have nothing to praise.

Since I am in this thread, I will write about the mostly nearly empty clubs I saw.
I have been more than once the only customer for whiles, inspite of happy hours, or we were 2-3 men, nevertheless with girls missing in space in the total disinterest of the various thekefraus, all busy with their phones and waking up when maybe you were holding, to fight loneliness, for a second your own mobile, which is strictly forbidden.
Thekes not interested in customers saying it was cold or warm inside the club, that the music was too loud, that you wanted to order something to eat or you wanted to get out and come back in 10 minutes from the nearby mcdonalds ("du musst wieder eintritt bezahlen!" You must pay again the entrance), etc. , but active in kicking customers out even at 9,20 pm!

I arrived in the third decade of February, the reason for clubs being practically empty was that "we are in the end of the month and people don't have money anymore"! Of course, poor germans, with their third world salaries, poor tourists and poor business men can't afford to pay 10 euros entrance plus 30 for a session all inclusive of extras, even if now you get really little, especially if compared to the past.

In March instead the clubs were practically empty because of the "corona virus blast"... Of course, people challenging daily (or weekly or anyway often) aids, hepatitis, plus other minor infections more or less antibiotic resistant, will be scared by a stronger kind of flu which at least sorts you out quickly or you heal in the very most of cases.

Appalling to see the freude39 car park practically empty whenever passing by inspite of HH, embarrassing to see arabella car park empty with its 5-6 cars capacity in HH, I was close to go away thinking it was closed for who knows which reasons.

In F39 there are some scraps of other clubs who think and feel (correctly, given the "opponents") that they are beauty queens, but they are just less unfuckable and with overrestricted service, ridiculously claiming to be spanish and italian instead of romanians, trying to squeeze more off your pocket because of the different breed, LOL! Anyway, if you are not familiar enough (I am) with those 2 languages and express doubts about their origin, a hearty "dute dracu" (among the best wishes to you and your relatives, something like "dute in pizda mati cu morti tai", "cancerul sa te / va mananca" for instance), following your refusal to go to the room will sweep away your doubts.

In the smaller rtcs the girls are the same ones since ages. They get older, uglier, fatter, lazier, more unpolite, impatient, squeamish, delicate, worse and worse in everything. If and when by miracle you see a new face, you have one or more of these cases:

She doesn't perform what she is supposed to, or she does in lighter versions;

She is unfuckable;

She has no will to do anything and prefers to hide, discourage customers or anyway to do as less as possible in the room;

She will ask you in astonishment questions like:"but you really want to fuck me for more than 10 minutes? For as little as 30 euros? You are crazy or what?";

Irritating similar bullshit.


About the service:

Getting decently kissed is terribly difficult, mostly it will be a sort of snake tongue which doesn't even touch your lips, and instead of arousing your dick, it will cause the inexorable death or its resizing to a clit;

your fingers are practically prohibited in and around cavities;

Milking (the few who have boobs, because the vast majority has just empty or saggy excrescences on the chest) and squeezing is annoying when not painful;

If you want to use your tongue on them, it will be untolerably ticklish;

Anal is practically unmentionable, anyway it would cost extra: 20 in NRW and 30 in Dietzenbach, and covered also;

Your dick, against your expectations, is likely to be too big, and inspite of having not infrequent "inexplicable" erectile problems, your dick is even too hard for fucking, even in positions purposefully taken to hinder your insertion;

You are likely to be an unrespectful asshole who fucks too much, whether your dick is hard or soft or half half.

I don't carry on with this list to avoid discouraging virgin men or priests who want to come out of the tunnel to visit these edens on earth.

About the prices, until a couple of years ago you had 30 minutes for 30 euros, then the minutes became 25, now 20, maybe by Christmas 15 and then on until the absolute zero, which in terms of performance is not that far. Not too long ago, girls wouldn't mind allowing a little overtime, especially if you were close to unload, now they are afraid of missing the synchronized hooking with the space shuttle.

You spend a good 16-20% of your anyway-less-than-20-minutes-room discussing about time elapsed, time remaining and time zone, plus what is and what was the time when you started on your watch, on hers and on the clock hanging on the wall.

Furthermore, if 7 years ago you were paying a girl 30 euros for (at least!) 30 minutes, which is 1 euro / minute, why 7 years later you should pay her 1,5 times that much? If there were to be changes, I would reckon more correct the contrary, you must spend less!

A statistic embarrasses me: inspite of a long stay with some 10 clubs visited on top of a couple of RLDs and private entire buildings, the "topscorer" has 4 rooms. An average girl to my humble liking, not one I would have "fallen in love" with, would have got 4 rooms in one afternoon.

Of course, it is still possible to have decent / good rooms, but in the overall there is a huge gap with the past in the quality of the rooms and in the service / price ratio, and going always with the same girls is like going with your wife: you both lose enthusiasm, plus you lose erection. IMHO, there is no need to make efforts to go to Germany, once in a while hoping to find some new decent girls is more than enough.

More to come