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[Mursenary]

US is looking to add all of Europe to L3 travel alert. Effectively, all of EU is considered to be off travel limits to US with UK excepted perhaps. That's pretty much bye bye for US mongers to EU for a while. Italians are already out, Asians are out. German locals can have the clubs all to themselves for a few days until perhaps the clubs are ordered to shut down. If Czechs banned all group meets of 100 or more, how can Germans allow Sharks with 100 girls and even more dudes?

As I said a little while ago, the key question is when will they reopen and how many girls will return to the clubs and to this profession?

From what I understand, advisory levels are just recommendations and not restrictions or limitations. Correct?

[Kuni042]

Good point. And this might be for the better. I strongly favour 15-20 good to very good clubs (where the great girls can concentrate) over the current situation, where we are left with 5 good to very good clubs and 45 shitty to mediocre clubs.

It seems like COVID-19 will affect FKK clubs (and the rest of the world) for at least the next few months. Reduction in guests will lead to a reduction in girls, both of which will lead to a reduction in revenue for club owners. Presumably most clubs have fixed expenditures (building leases etc). I wonder if we will actually see some clubs go to the wall because of this.

[Pistons]

As I said a little while ago, the key question is when will they reopen and how many girls will return to the clubs and to this profession?

Are you suggesting income options elsewhere will substantially improve in the wake of this pandemic?

[Pessimist]

US is looking to add all of Europe to L3 travel alert. Effectively, all of EU is considered to be off travel limits to US with UK excepted perhaps. That's pretty much bye bye for US mongers to EU for a while. Italians are already out, Asians are out. German locals can have the clubs all to themselves for a few days until perhaps the clubs are ordered to shut down. If Czechs banned all group meets of 100 or more, how can Germans allow Sharks with 100 girls and even more dudes?

As I said a little while ago, the key question is when will they reopen and how many girls will return to the clubs and to this profession?

[Citizen Kane]

It seems like COVID-19 will affect FKK clubs (and the rest of the world) for at least the next few months. Reduction in guests will lead to a reduction in girls, both of which will lead to a reduction in revenue for club owners. Presumably most clubs have fixed expenditures (building leases etc). I wonder if we will actually see some clubs go to the wall because of this.

[Pessimist]

Merkel says 60% to 70% of Germans could eventually be infected and she also doesn't want to close borders. Her numbers are in line with Marc Lipsitch from Harvard who said 40% to 70% of the world will get infected and 1% of them will die.

[Palcon]

So I was online today and saw a color coded map showing the spread of the virus. Eastern Europe still looked somewhat safe, with a single exception. Ro. I'm sure it's just a strange coincidence, but still.

Ro diaspora returning home? Girls returning home and they do have a large presence in Italy, Spain and a few others as caretakers.

[Clodius1]

So I was online today and saw a color coded map showing the spread of the virus. Eastern Europe still looked somewhat safe, with a single exception. Ro. I'm sure it's just a strange coincidence, but still.

One thing you fail to understand is that China is authoritarian regime, where government is similar to dictator set up where fed can force people to do things, military included.

On the other hand, other nations like most democratic nations like Europe, Japan, USA etc. Cannot do that.

Whats important to look at is not infection rates, it is important to look at death rates, and Italian numbers are alarming and it shows hospital is not functioning anymore to the level they even begin refusing some life extending treatment for over 60 years old patients.

It won't be solve as simple sex forum states, but it will be solved, and thanks god, covid 19 is not deadly virus to most people, unlike ebora.

Anyways, sex forum is not the solution for global virus issue that is for sure LOL.

[Mr Ho]

So funny. My fitbit-clone (from Garmin) tells me that I have walked yesterday over 10000 steps while masturbating for an hour. Grin.

When all else fails for men, men got our imagination and right hand LOL. Safest sex form there is and by far the cheapest LOL!

Close your eyes, think of the times you had in FKK and make good use of your right hand LOL!

[Mr Ho]

The answer is massive isolation and de-socializing.

If you look at the chinese numbers, it seems that they had most success in shutting this all down. China in effect drove people into massive self-isolation. And mandated masks to inhibit further distribution of the virus.

If you look at Germany (BTW; I am german citizen): the situation is NUTS. The germans today are still watching the 2nd Fuball liga in the 10's of thousands. In Berlin a large game will be watched by 50.000 -.

In Germany people are ridiculed if they wear masks or wear latex gloves while shopping. So imo right now, if they are not careful this thing will loom a while longer and just get worse.

And I know some of you will say. Pah. All overhyped. It is not so risky. But the death toll is 4300 and quickly rising outside of China. Because the western world is pretty lame so far in its response.

One thing you fail to understand is that China is authoritarian regime, where government is similar to dictator set up where fed can force people to do things, military included.

On the other hand, other nations like most democratic nations like Europe, Japan, USA etc. Cannot do that.

Whats important to look at is not infection rates, it is important to look at death rates, and Italian numbers are alarming and it shows hospital is not functioning anymore to the level they even begin refusing some life extending treatment for over 60 years old patients.

It won't be solve as simple sex forum states, but it will be solved, and thanks god, covid 19 is not deadly virus to most people, unlike ebora.

Anyways, sex forum is not the solution for global virus issue that is for sure LOL.

[Pessimist]

The answer is massive isolation and de-socializing.

If you look at the chinese numbers, it seems that they had most success in shutting this all down. China in effect drove people into massive self-isolation. And mandated masks to inhibit further distribution of the virus.

If you look at Germany (BTW; I am german citizen): the situation is NUTS. The germans today are still watching the 2nd Fuball liga in the 10's of thousands. In Berlin a large game will be watched by 50.000 -.

In Germany people are ridiculed if they wear masks or wear latex gloves while shopping. So imo right now, if they are not careful this thing will loom a while longer and just get worse.

And I know some of you will say. Pah. All overhyped. It is not so risky. But the death toll is 4300 and quickly rising outside of China. Because the western world is pretty lame so far in its response.

Totally agree with most of what you said. I have a different opinion about China, however. The kinds of things they could do in China are simply not feasible in Western democracies. We will see how this Italian quarantine works. In China, authorities were draconian, excessive, abusive and of course they probably fudged facts and lied about numbers. There are dozens of videos on YouTube and Twitter and a few Chinese social media platforms which were showing how callously police were dealing with the population. Doors were locked from outside, blocking bars welded while people were screaming and crying and wailing from inside. Sick women were walking miles to hospitals, were turned away with the message that they could not be tested at that facility and told to walk to another facility miles away. When they could barely breathe. The death rate in Wuhan was so high because denominator (of total infections) was understated and of course so many people received no proper healthcare and just died.

We are simply not used to such hamhanded behavior from police here and people will go to courts. Over there, people have zero rights and government treats them like dirt.

That doesn't mean we can not constrain this. As you said, large events need to be canceled. Major sporting events are getting canned. Indian Wells tennis was this week, for example. School shutdowns, working from home, work related travel cancellations are all happening. Increasing social distance is critical as you said. The critical thing is to slow down the rate of infections and delay them so that healthcare systems are not overwhelmed. Even if a large number are infected, if that can be spread over a large period as opposed to getting infected in a short time, we can manage this.

But to dismiss this as Musk did, is simply stupid. While Bill Gates has been on the mark from day one and was prescient with his forecasts, Musk yet again came across as a yahoo.

[Kuni042]

So funny. My fitbit-clone (from Garmin) tells me that I have walked yesterday over 10000 steps while masturbating for an hour. Grin.

Use your illusions and your right hand LOL!

[Kuni042]

The answer is massive isolation and de-socializing.

If you look at the chinese numbers, it seems that they had most success in shutting this all down. China in effect drove people into massive self-isolation. And mandated masks to inhibit further distribution of the virus.

If you look at Germany (BTW; I am german citizen): the situation is NUTS. The germans today are still watching the 2nd Fußball liga in the 10's of thousands. In Berlin a large game will be watched by 50.000 -.

In Germany people are ridiculed if they wear masks or wear latex gloves while shopping. So imo right now, if they are not careful this thing will loom a while longer and just get worse.

And I know some of you will say. Pah. All overhyped. It is not so risky. But the death toll is 4300 and quickly rising outside of China. Because the western world is pretty lame so far in its response.

If you really think FKK WGs are at such heightened risk, why would you not advocate shutting down FKKs until this is cleared up?

[Kuni042]

Agreed. I find this policy to stop italians or asians at FKK quite stupid. Most infections in Germany right now are caused by Germans.

Is there a reason to deny access to Asian look mongers but allow other mongers now? Why not block the Asian dude at the airport? If it is a Asian ethnicity guy who normally lives in Frankfurt or Paris, why is that fellow a higher risk than a Hispanic dude or French ethnicity dude from Belgium or even a local guy from Munich?

[Pessimist]

Countries are restricting meeting sizes and travel altogether. Austria stopped all Italians from entering. I think it was Sui who banned all group meets of more than 1000 and now Czech is banning all meets of 100 people. If FKK was located in Czech, they would be closed already.