Bangkok Reports

[EihTooms]

P4 P as we know it will not be the same for quite some time. The effects will dwarf that of HIV / AIDS. And I am referring to changes in laws, changes in providers attitudes and what they are willing to provide, and cultural attitudes towards P4P sex.

The most likely changes might be anything related to oral contact. I would not be surprised if DFK or any kissing at all, BBBJ even as mere oral foreplay, Rimming, Cat Bath and anything requiring a provider's mouth touching the customer's skin to become the new great taboo, surpassing the issue of covered FS vs bareback FS.

In terms of Covid-19 risk, condom or no condom for fucking is irrelevant.

And all encounters while both people are wearing masks, I suppose, to somewhat reduce the aerosol transmission risk.

I would recommend everyone honing their upfront negotiation skills. There might be a whole bunch of new hurdles to overcome in store. And as many new itemized surcharge costs to iron out.

[Goatscrot]

It's not sexually transmitted strictly speaking, but it's fair to say that, if you have sex with a Covid-19 carrier (who may be asymptomatic or have mild symptoms), there's a very high probability of getting it unless you're wearing a high-grade protective gear throughout the entire encounter and disinfect yourself thoroughly afterwards. Of course you easily could get it without actual sex (just by, say, shaking hands), but that's beside the point. Therefore, sex workers are a vector, and a high risk one. Being in close contact with many people also increases the chance they are infected (compared to an average person), so there's that too.

P4 P as we know it will not be the same for quite some time. The effects will dwarf that of HIV / AIDS. And I am referring to changes in laws, changes in providers attitudes and what they are willing to provide, and cultural attitudes towards P4P sex.

[EihTooms]

Some interesting info, some of which has been "out there" for a bit of time and some new to me. Good source and glad to hear things aren't as apocalyptic as you made it seem. I can crawl out from under my bed now. LOL Thanks for the link.

SS.

How is what I posted about the aerosol version of transmission so different than what Fauci said about it in that video?

[Crocodilexp]

Are we somehow drifting into a mindset where Covid-19 is considered a sexually transmitted or related disease, which it is not?

It's not sexually transmitted strictly speaking, but it's fair to say that, if you have sex with a Covid-19 carrier (who may be asymptomatic or have mild symptoms), there's a very high probability of getting it unless you're wearing a high-grade protective gear throughout the entire encounter and disinfect yourself thoroughly afterwards. Of course you easily could get it without actual sex (just by, say, shaking hands), but that's beside the point. Therefore, sex workers are a vector, and a high risk one. Being in close contact with many people also increases the chance they are infected (compared to an average person), so there's that too.

[Sam Sanuk]

You can jump ahead to 2:45 where the actual questions and answers section begins. Dr. Fauci discusses the airborne/aerosol issue at 3:45. He does not dismiss it as a means of transmission at all. Instead, he allows it as a perfectly viable way for a virus like this to linger in the air and infect people, similar to but perhaps not as long lasting in the air as the measles virus.

https://youtu.be/F2YKKba6ps0

Some interesting info, some of which has been "out there" for a bit of time and some new to me. Good source and glad to hear things aren't as apocalyptic as you made it seem. I can crawl out from under my bed now. LOL Thanks for the link.

SS.

[EihTooms]

Please provide the source. Thanks.

SS.

You can jump ahead to 2:45 where the actual questions and answers section begins. Dr. Fauci discusses the airborne/aerosol issue at 3:45. He does not dismiss it as a means of transmission at all. Instead, he allows it as a perfectly viable way for a virus like this to linger in the air and infect people, similar to but perhaps not as long lasting in the air as the measles virus.

https://youtu.be/F2YKKba6ps0

[Mr Enternational]

thousands if not millions of the tiniest particles, many times smaller than a droplet, get stirred up and float in the air for hours in aerosol form around where they once stood. You inhale in that same space, without even meeting that person, even while wearing one of those trypical surgical masks and having just washed your hands for 20 seconds with hot soapy water, and Covid-19 will enter your repiratory system.

But air does not sit still. It constantly moves around. So are we to believe the covid suspends itself in mid-space for hours without moving with the air? Or is it that infected Joe can breathe covid out down the street and it reaches me 200 meters away in 20 minutes with the movement of the air?

[Sam Sanuk]

Once the virus is on someone's clothes, their face mask or furniture, thousands if not millions of the tiniest particles, many times smaller than a droplet, get stirred up and float in the air for hours in aerosol form around where they once stood. You inhale in that same space, without even meeting that person, even while wearing one of those trypical surgical masks and having just washed your hands for 20 seconds with hot soapy water, and Covid-19 will enter your repiratory system.

Please provide the source. Thanks.

SS.

[EihTooms]

There's nothing wrong with paying 500 baht for ST. In some local low-end scenes for Thais, that was the price for years and still is. In the last few years, a one-and-done with the vast majority of PFP girls in the Farang scene been worth no more than 500-1000 baht anyway, regardless of how much they ask, and how much some tourists pay.

However, there's plenty wrong with making girls go bareback and compromising their health. Covid-19 might be unavoidable except by 100% abstinence, but HIV is easily preventable with condoms.

Are we somehow drifting into a mindset where Covid-19 is considered a sexually transmitted or related disease, which it is not?

Nobody on the planet who has become infected with or died from Covid-19 needed to have had sex with the carrier to get it. Or to have ever had sex with anyone in their lives (100% abstinence). Or to be naked near one. Or to even touch a carrier. It wasn't even necessary to be within a close enough proximity of a carrier to have a droplet from a cough or sneeze land on you.

In fact, the "carrier" of the virus might never have met someone sick from it or be sick from it himself.

Once the virus is on someone's clothes, their face mask or furniture, thousands if not millions of the tiniest particles, many times smaller than a droplet, get stirred up and float in the air for hours in aerosol form around where they once stood. You inhale in that same space, without even meeting that person, even while wearing one of those trypical surgical masks and having just washed your hands for 20 seconds with hot soapy water, and Covid-19 will enter your repiratory system.

[Crocodilexp]

Where are you guys getting it from that people around here are desperate and starving? 500 baht ST was the normal price before tourists came fucking it up.

There's nothing wrong with paying 500 baht for ST. In some local low-end scenes for Thais, that was the price for years and still is. In the last few years, a one-and-done with the vast majority of PFP girls in the Farang scene been worth no more than 500-1000 baht anyway, regardless of how much they ask, and how much some tourists pay.

However, there's plenty wrong with making girls go bareback and compromising their health. Covid-19 might be unavoidable except by 100% abstinence, but HIV is easily preventable with condoms.

[EihTooms]

Because their too fucking stupid to know any better. Once their baht dries up and see the severe lack of Japanese or Any Asian customers who frequent Thermae, they'll come swooning for your services. Not saying you could be a potential opportunist. Buuuuuut!. Seriously though, is it even worth your time messing with those airheads?. You'll just end up getting a 'cold starfish' in the bedroom.

That last question of yours is the key. Honestly, even though I make the rounds to and from my nearby apartment on a nearly daily or nightly basis to monitor the situation, I am usually on my way to a pre set appointment with a much better girl or just coming back from having been with one and walked her to the bts, mrt or a taxi. Consequently, I have neither the time nor the shot left in me to take a new girl up on her offer. At that time.

She or her offer would have to be especially tempting and difficult to refuse. And even then I would probably just take her Line info and file it in my "To Do Someday" folder. That comes into play when a favorite repeat decides she misses mom enough to head back to her province until her Bkk bar reopens or when one gets a temporary job during this lockdown that screws up her convenient free time to visit me. Both of which happened today.

So I will open that "To Do Someday" folder in a couple of days, after one of my regular, non P4P girlfriends laying next to me now goes back to her tea shop job on Thursday morning.

[The Cane]

Like ET, all the messages I am receiving from chicks are saying they are bored. I have not received 1 message from a chick saying they were on the street starving.

And when you think about it, if they were on the street starving, then one would be unlikely to know it since. Well. They would be on the street starving, and not exchanging messages by computer! As long as they're doing that, they're not on the street starving, and full of shit if they say they are. Think about it men. Now, times may be hard. They may even be hungry. But, they aren't on the street starving, and not likely to ever be either.

[MeatMan]

The 2-3 better-looking ones who might actually be (closed) Thermae refugees desperate to see it they can scrounge up a customer on the street these days, totally ignored me as I passed by, did not smile back at me after I smiled at them, did not utter a word of response to my Hello, nothing. LOL. Just as if they were still standing in Thermae waiting for a stray Asian customer to pass by on these otherwise desolate streets. Amazing. Well, I suppose it is comforting to know certain traditions never fade.

Because their too fucking stupid to know any better. Once their baht dries up and see the severe lack of Japanese or Any Asian customers who frequent Thermae, they'll come swooning for your services. Not saying you could be a potential opportunist. Buuuuuut!. Seriously though, is it even worth your time messing with those airheads?. You'll just end up getting a 'cold starfish' in the bedroom.

[EihTooms]

Where are you guys getting it from that people around here are desperate and starving? 500 baht ST was the normal price before tourists came fucking it up. Now that the tourists are gone, I see it as prices going back to normal.

I paid 40 baht for a bowl of chicken and noodles at a noodle restaurant the other day. So 500 baht would get a person 12 meals. 2 nights ago I stayed at a chick's place in Pattaya where they had a sign up, "Monthly Rental 2,500 baht". Keep things in perspective. Living here is not nearly expensive as it is where we are from, yet somehow P4P prices get jacked up.

Like ET, all the messages I am receiving from chicks are saying they are bored. I have not received 1 message from a chick saying they were on the street starving.

Mr. E, I just got another series of Line messages from the FL who said she was hungry and wanted to meet me. It turns out she used the "I'm hungry" opener because when I met her before I bought her dinner in Artbox and she associates me with a "dinner date" as well as a potential source of income. LOL.

This time it was all about how she wants to meet me because she is SO BORED sitting in her room. She asked me how many regular girls I see. I threw out 4-5 with a couple being non P4P girls, real girlfriends. She asked what it would take for her to be one of my regular repeat GF-style girls.

I told her the Big Three ways to gain entrance into that club. She said, "Yes, I will do all of that for you, anything you want." Not because she is hungry so much as because she is so bored and wants to be out doing something, anything for a change.

I also don't think many punters here and elsewhere get how much that boredom is an important additional motivation for them leaving "boring grandmas and babies" in their province to work P4P for much bigger and easier money in Bangkok and Pattaya.

[LittleBigMan]

I'm not here to debate the stats either. I just asked a simple followup question that might be pertinent to whether or not anyone reading your posts and took a girl on Sukhumvit or from T (Thermae?) ought to be alarmed about an intentional attempt to give them HIV. But, as I said, in a way that would prove to be extremely ineffective.

In many ways whether you think or not you are! I wrote a report expressed an opinion from my own experience whether you believe it or not that is up to you and anyone else who has read it as I noted you all are grown-ups. It is just a report I felt like writing since I'm a bit bored today. Like any report, you can read it ignore or attempt to prove to be extremely ineffective that is your choice!

I will end by saying when people are desperate and hurt here in Thailand they just think a bit backward and people do stupid things and stupid things don't have to be intentional or rational. As I noted people will do what they want to do and have a justification for it in your case you believe it is proven to be extremely ineffective which is your right to believe.