Colombia / Travel Coronavirus Updates

[Zeos1]

The US is in the same boat as the rest of the world. The final numbers are not in from anywhere. Tell me the fallacy of comparing current numbers from the US to current numbers from all other countries. The US was in the first wave of countries to get the virus (after China), about the same time as some other countries, and earlier than many countries. The first detected case in the US was nine days before the first detected case in Italy.

Remember, your statement "Many other countries handled it differently, a lot better. Actually, most other countries. " I am still looking for most countries that handled it better.

I don't want to be augmentative, just trying to understand your train of thought.

The rate of increase was the fastest in the US of almost any country. From the time there were 100 cases to the present the US wins the race. Look for the dates when the number of cases reached 100, and compare at 10 or 20 day intervals.

[Woodman09]

Lock downs are working in Canada. You need to be early. You can't wait until it starts to spread through the community to enact a shutdown.

The reason they aren't as effective in the US is largely because:

(1) They were done too late.

(2) A lot of Americans simply don't abide by the rules. They don't believe what they're being told.

Too late. This virus is patient. Much more so than us.

LOL, Canadians abide by all the rules, And believe everything Trudow says, BTW he is a big liar. Canada has exponential growth (10,000 cases since the 20th) and will most likely be shit show in 2 weeks. Hope I'm wrong about that. https://www.worldometers.info/corona...ountry/canada/.

Rebel News has good videos from your airports on YouTube.

[Surfer500]

Florida is the third most populace state and second most visited by foreigners. It is sixth in the number of infections and number of deaths. As for number of infections and deaths in the top ten, only California and Pennsylvania have less per capita than Florida. Using statistics, Florida is doing better than many Democratic governors.

I agree it's a sad situation, too many deaths, but we need to act towards the future. We can learn from the past, but can't change it.

Sorry I cannot agree that the governor of Florida is doing better than many Democratic governors, and as far at the governor of Georgia, are you of the opinion that he as well is doing better than many Democratic Governors?

[Fun Luvr]

Agreed, however the Governors of Georgia and Florida should of acted sooner and I put them in the party affiliation dumpster.

Regardless, it's sad.

Florida is the third most populace state and second most visited by foreigners. It is sixth in the number of infections and number of deaths. As for number of infections and deaths in the top ten, only California and Pennsylvania have less per capita than Florida. Using statistics, Florida is doing better than many Democratic governors.

I agree it's a sad situation, too many deaths, but we need to act towards the future. We can learn from the past, but can't change it.

[YippieKayay]

If that's true, then lock downs don't appear to work.

Lock downs are working in Canada. You need to be early. You can't wait until it starts to spread through the community to enact a shutdown.

The reason they aren't as effective in the US is largely because:

(1) They were done too late.

(2) A lot of Americans simply don't abide by the rules. They don't believe what they're being told.

Too late. This virus is patient. Much more so than us.

[Surfer500]

I would not say party affiliation and throw them all into baskets that way. Some Republican governors acted early and get high marks.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazi...ovid-19-159945

The two that you mention are two that have the closest ties to the president: They both owe their primary election to the president.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/02/polit...rus/index.html

Agreed, however the Governors of Georgia and Florida should of acted sooner and I put them in the party affiliation dumpster.

Regardless, it's sad.

[Mojo Bandit]

Does anyone have a rational explanation for the delays these two Republican Governors took in locking down their States, besides party affiliation?

I would not say party affiliation and throw them all into baskets that way. Some Republican governors acted early and get high marks.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazi...ovid-19-159945

The two that you mention are two that have the closest ties to the president: They both owe their primary election to the president.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/02/polit...rus/index.html

[Woodman09]

The trump pills work, very hard to find now. They were available the other day and all of a sudden very scarce. I think the government bought a lot of the inventory for police and government use. Z packs are available for 30 mil but there was a lot of that around.

I have a course of the Trump pills paid 110 mil. As I write production on the Trump pills is ramping up. There should be plenty in a month. They are one of the keys to bringing things back to normal.

[Surfer500]

If that's true, then lock downs don't appear to work. We can look at Colombia and see that lock downs do work there, at least for now. Top 10 states in number of infections: New York, New Jersey, California, Michigan, Louisiana, Florida, Massachusetts, Illinois, Pennsylvania, Washington. Nine of the ten have Democratic governors. Even though Louisiana has a Democratic governor, it is a red state. Florida is the only one with the governor and legislature controlled by Republicans. If you look at the top ten in number of deaths, take out Pennsylvania and put in Georgia. Two Republican governors and eight Democrats. If you content that we must look at populations, then the top ten are: California, Texas, Florida, New York, Pennsylvania, Illinois, Ohio, Georgia, North Carolina, Michigan.

California locked down earlier than most States and accordingly are doing much better percentage wise than others, unfortunately New York is just a different animal I suspect just because so many people travel there versus other Cities and States. The lock downs at least in the States that started them earlier as noted by Fauci and Brix during there briefings confirm this.

I am amazed that the Governor of Georgia just yesterday locked down his State and said he just did it because he had just found out in the last twenty four hours that people with the virus with no symptoms could infect others. The CDC headquarters are located in Georgia, his home State. You would of thought he would of known something about this like everyone else. A bizarre excuse and he should be removed from office. And Florida not shutting down until recently, but until after Spring break.

Does anyone have a rational explanation for the delays these two Republican Governors took in locking down their States, besides party affiliation?

[Golfinho]

Looking for a place or country to go to without the virus? This guy can show you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzaHLeZyc9M

[Fun Luvr]

It boils down to politics mostly, if you look at the red states versus the blue states, and the politicians in charge, generally the blue states, such as California, instigated lock down measures sooner than the red states. ...

If that's true, then lock downs don't appear to work. We can look at Colombia and see that lock downs do work there, at least for now. Top 10 states in number of infections: New York, New Jersey, California, Michigan, Louisiana, Florida, Massachusetts, Illinois, Pennsylvania, Washington. Nine of the ten have Democratic governors. Even though Louisiana has a Democratic governor, it is a red state. Florida is the only one with the governor and legislature controlled by Republicans. If you look at the top ten in number of deaths, take out Pennsylvania and put in Georgia. Two Republican governors and eight Democrats. If you content that we must look at populations, then the top ten are: California, Texas, Florida, New York, Pennsylvania, Illinois, Ohio, Georgia, North Carolina, Michigan.

[Mojo Bandit]

California does not wait for the federal government to take action. Once the high tech companies found one infection. The companies shutdown the whole campus early on, followed by cites, counties, state last.

I don't understand the reasoning behind some other state officials who balk at quarantine or threaten to sue others when other states want to block people traveling from the highly infected state.

Most regional entities did not wait for federal leadership on this because in the beginning there was none. That is not a political statement that is a fact. Most states (Democrat and Republican) swung into action immediately.

In my opinion Florida Governor may be the worst offender. They had spring break partiers from all over the eastern United States down there and refused to do anything to promote social distancing. Then these idiots exported it across half the country at least.

This video is the coolest because it shows them literally tracking the people from one beach and remember that this is just one beach!

https://www.wfla.com/community/healt...s-the-country/

https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/...-firm/2213356/

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...navirus-140609

The moron in this video summed up their thinking -.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oa4i9Ap6dCg

[Fun Luvr]

... And deaths per million, or deaths compared to those infected. The numbers are not in yet. People take longer to die than to catch this thing.

The US is in the same boat as the rest of the world. The final numbers are not in from anywhere. Tell me the fallacy of comparing current numbers from the US to current numbers from all other countries. The US was in the first wave of countries to get the virus (after China), about the same time as some other countries, and earlier than many countries. The first detected case in the US was nine days before the first detected case in Italy.

Remember, your statement "Many other countries handled it differently, a lot better. Actually, most other countries. " I am still looking for most countries that handled it better.

I don't want to be augmentative, just trying to understand your train of thought.

[SeekingHead]

Your leaders, instead of preparing the nation for this pandemic, profited, and kept silent..

From what I have Virus Vulture Kelly Lauffler, sold stock, took short & options positions. Short & options are high risk / high reward, but if you already know what is going to happen then they are not very high risk.

https://www.esquire.com/news-politic...-richard-burr/

The largest transactions — and the most politically problematic — involve $18.7 million in sales of Intercontinental Exchange stock in three separate deals dated Feb. 26 and March 11. Loeffler is a former executive with ICE, and her husband, Jeff Sprecher, is the CEO of the company, which owns the New York Stock Exchange among other financial marketplaces.

During the same time period reflected on reports filed late Tuesday, the couple also sold shares in retail stores such as Lululemon and T. J. Maxx and invested in a company that makes COVID-19 protective garments.

[YippieKayay]

It depends. If she just sold her stock out of fear, which is all she has reported to have done, then no, she is just gutless. If she went short, then I would be impressed and say hell yes! LOL.

Your leaders, instead of preparing the nation for this pandemic, profited, and kept silent.

I recall hearing the WHO. World Health Organization. Begging countries to take it seriously sometime in early February.

They declared it a pandemic in early March. I was watching that on TV with my chica blowing me in Cartagena. She didn't take it seriously. Then all of a sudden a week later when I got back she was sending me information from UNICEF.