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  1. #47828
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    I will wear a mask every time I leave my residence.
    Where and when were you able to find N95 masks in your country? I wasn't able to find a single N95 mask in USA and this was at the very beginning of February when I think the States only had 10 cases. I went out looking the second I figured out this was going to be like SARS.

  2. #47827
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    I have read where the WHO stated that there is no need to wear masks. I should be surprised if they still maintain that. Obviously, everyone is free to act as they wish. My individual choice will be to go over and beyond recommendations made by the authorities. I will wear a mask every time I leave my residence. I hope this doesn't spook anyone.
    You can't even find a mask in the USA Right now. Literally can't buy one. People have resorted to making masks for themselves and others at home. Some people have had family from overseas send them masks. Situation is just pathetic, including healthcare providers not having the PPE they need to protect themselves from infection. Just a plain pathetic lack of preparation and leadership in this country, at all levels. State, local, and Federal. Some people have been caught hoarding supplies.

  3. #47826
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    .............And note that the great concern and death risks to avoid as being taught to them now is not wearing masks, not maintaining a social distance and not hanging out in crowded environments. That last part being a particular challenge to the future of the go-go bar scene and conducive to the FL and online scene instead.
    I have read where the WHO stated that there is no need to wear masks. I should be surprised if they still maintain that. Obviously, everyone is free to act as they wish. My individual choice will be to go over and beyond recommendations made by the authorities. I will wear a mask every time I leave my residence. I hope this doesn't spook anyone.

  4. #47825

    My Two Cents

    Not for everybody but for most of us aids changed casual sex behavior forever and in my opinion this virus and the awareness of oral transmission of life threatening infections will have both providers and customers thinking twice about the so called GFE. If I understand the science and admittedly not everything is known about this strain transmission is by droplets which are exhaled by the carrier through the nose and mouth entering the recipients' body through their eyes nose or mouth. So other than kissing all the other bits and pieces BBBJ, DATY, HJ, BBFS or CFS are not methods of transmission. Somebody posted something about fecal transmission which would impact one of my own personal favorites rimming but the evidence is anecdotal at best. P4P is not going away and at least here in Thailand it's alive and well through online channels. Help where you can and stay safe.

  5. #47824

    How is Moscow, I've never been!

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    Really it's not so much about the girls of even price (for me). For a day of fun and relaxation FKK cannot be beat. Fuck, sauna, fuck, massage, fuck, eat, fuck, sleep, fuck. Nothing worldwide comes close for a complete body experience. Want to feel true GFE where you believe it? Or see 150 7-9's in one club? Can't beat Sao Paulo Brazil. Epic neon and more girls per square mile than anywhere else on earth then Thailand. Want to not only fuck the Gogo girls but also the waitress, barmaids, and hostesses? Moscow! Want to fuck a Romanian stunner in her own bed in her studio apt? London baby!

    To me you can get pretty girls anywhere in the world. It's the variety of formats and venues that are so fun for me.
    Hi Steve,

    "Want to not only fuck the Gogo girls but also the waitress, barmaids, and hostesses? Moscow!

    Really! Are there lots of clubs like this in Moscow or are you talking about just picking up non pro girls from clubs?

    If you're talking about pros, what are the prices like and do I need to speak a little Rusky?

    I was thinking of going to Russia (Moscow and St. Petersburg) after the virus thing is over.

    But now I can't decide between Brazil, Russia or Asia. I'll always head through Europe (Germany) on my way home though, so.

  6. #47823

    I don't think you monger that much in Germany FKKs

    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    I am not aware of any Pattaya gogo bar that still has rooms in the club. The last ones I knew were a well known dirty gogo but the rooms got shut down after a bust around 3 years ago. There was another very popular gogo bar right on Walking Street that had rooms upstairs that very few knew about. Both gogo bars still popular and open but neither has rooms any more. A BKK expert can chime in about BKK gogo bars.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4223280/British-tourist-caught-bed-prostitute.html

    Try 2000 BF plus 3000ST in top Pattaya gogo bars. Cheaper in BKK gogo bars but I still don't think top gogo bars are as low as 600 baht BF. 3600 baht would be 100 euro. Cheaper than Germany FKK? Not really if you count the 70 euro to get in to a FKK like Oase, then 50 euro for half the time with no BBBJ or DFK or a 50 euro upcharge. That is still for 1 shot in most cases. What FKK has going for it is drinks and half decent food are free and you can spend on entire day there from noon til well beyond midnight.
    The prices you state are only for some FKK's (many outside Frankfurt are 30-40 Euro entry and 30-40 for BBBJ / sex), which like you said include really good food (Samya), sauna, etc. I was in Germany in November and I received the same service for 50 E that I received 10 years ago with many girls. BBBJ and sex with most of the girls. Yes, some, wanted 100, but I was persistent and kept negotiating and they eventually go with me with little effort. They all end up saying the same thing "OK this time 50 but next time you pay 100" haha! Just don't argue with them and keep the decibel level down when negotiating so other girls don't hear you. Many of the seasoned girls will still work for the same price, it's the younger snot nosed brats with freshly installed bolt ONS, that will demand 100 E. I usually don't go with those girls. Piece of advice from a vet monger, if you walk up to a girl in a group and announce 50 E, she and all the other girls around will get pissed. You have to look for the right moment when she's alone, talk to her, get to know her, then make your play. Tell them you want to have a good time, don't want to spend 100, but want the same service you've been getting for years. Now I'm ranting, good luck hope all this virus stuff ends soon.

  7. #47822
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    No need to get agitated, never said there will not be just as there is plenty of DFK, DATY, BBBJ's and BBFS with hookers post AIDS.
    None of those activites have diminished for me right now among the 10-12 non pros and pros I am seeing on a rotating basis during the lockdown. But most of those girls were already less susceptible to panic and irrational fears compared with many girls here. And probably even more so compared with girls who did not have the option of staying in Bangkok and fled to their provinces, where the buzz seems to be Bangkok is a festering hellhole of scary viruses and death.

    That's bound to slow the arrival of new sweet young things into the Bangkok scene for a while. And when or if they do arrive either out of grinding boredom or financial need, I would not expect oral contact from DFK to BBBJ to be as freely available as it was pre Covid-19 for a while either.

    Available for a surcharge? Probably. But included without need to have at least some measure of increased discussion or negotiation about it first the same as condom use pre and post HIV? It would be a pleasant surprise if that wasn't the case.

    And note that the great concern and death risks to avoid as being taught to them now is not wearing masks, not maintaining a social distance and not hanging out in crowded environments. That last part being a particular challenge to the future of the go-go bar scene and conducive to the FL and online scene instead.

  8. #47821
    Quote Originally Posted by NattyBumpo  [View Original Post]
    That is BS. In all probability there will be plenty of DFK, DATY, BBBJ's & BBFS if you want it just like before Wuhan. This ain't like AIDS at all...........
    No need to get agitated, never said there will not be just as there is plenty of DFK, DATY, BBBJ's and BBFS with hookers post AIDS.

  9. #47820

    Please read this

    I'll go out on a limb here and suggest you can reasonably substitute the words "protective gear" with "a carrier's sports jacket" and "floors" with "furniture" in the case where a carrier or carriers have previously deposited those tiny aerosolized droplets on them. The virus particles can apparently survive for hours on some surfaces and, therefore, have a huge window of opportunity for them to be stirred up into the breathable air.

    And if you think of the particles of dust you see hanging in the air when sunlight streams into a room, these virus particles are much tinier than those dust particles and might even be hitching a ride on them. Also, in real world conditions vs static, controlled lab test conditions, those particles get stirred up and re-enter the breathable air every time someone walks through a room, plops down on a couch, pulls back the drapes, opens and closes a cabinet door and so on. Or, in a restaurant, every time a server passed by your table after the woman over there flipped back her hair. Probably a ladyboy.

    However, this does not fill me with alarm. Something quite the opposite, in fact. Assuming this is true, that means most of us have been exposed to COVID-19 much more often than we thought, have been introducing at least small amounts of it into our respiratory systems perhaps countless times in the past few months and yet a relative few of us have fallen prey to it and gotten sick from it.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/01/o...iral-dose.html

  10. #47819
    Quote Originally Posted by AmPervert  [View Original Post]
    Send money if you believe her. I have asked my P4 P girlfriends whether they are ok financially. I don't have a lot of money (a couple of thousand in the bank) but I don't want anyone going hungry. They have all responded that they are ok.
    Nobody is going to go hungry. They even set up places to give out free food.

    Also you can get 1.5L of water from the machine for 1 baht. And the machines actually have the best water. I did a test and the machine came out to 7ppm. Crystal bottled water came out to 21ppm. And the water from my bathroom faucet came out to 178ppm. It is all safe to drink up to 500ppm.
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  11. #47818
    Quote Originally Posted by NattyBumpo  [View Original Post]
    And she is just one of thousands in MNL, BKK, Pat, and CGK waiting for the good times to roll again. The current malaise will end. Yes, some establishments won't make it, but P4P will survive and flourish. It is human nature combined with economic reality.
    Of course there will always be P4P. The question is what form will it be in. Some guys are less inclined if there is no bar or gogo for them to be able to pick chicks out of.

  12. #47817
    Quote Originally Posted by NattyBumpo  [View Original Post]
    Just got an SOS this morning from my sexy little Plan B girl. I haven't decided if I will respond and send her a little $$$ or not. .
    Send money if you believe her. I have asked my P4 P girlfriends whether they are ok financially. I don't have a lot of money (a couple of thousand in the bank) but I don't want anyone going hungry. They have all responded that they are ok.

    I had to send regular friends money in NYC and Miami. They responded no but after they got my money, both called me with much calmer voices. I could hear the anxiety in their voices of these two tough men. My friend in NYC only had a week of food left.

    This is for real in America now. Please stay home and spare Thailand the same pain.

  13. #47816
    Quote Originally Posted by SamSanuk  [View Original Post]
    Please provide the source. Thanks.

    SS.
    Here is an article from the New England Journal of Medicine.
    Aerosol and Surface Stability of SARS-CoV-2 as Compared with SARS-CoV-1.
    https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2004973

    Here is another article. I can't find the medical article for this piece of information. I had seen it yesterday.
    You may be able to spread coronavirus just by breathing, new report finds.
    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020...w-report-finds

    Here is an excellent map of Covid-19 cases in Thailand.
    https://covidtracker.5lab.co/

    Please stay home everyone and keep Thailand safe. The less people moving around will keep the curve low.

  14. #47815

    Ditto!

    Quote Originally Posted by NattyBumpo  [View Original Post]
    That is BS. In all probability there will be plenty of DFK, DATY, BBBJ's & BBFS if you want it just like before Wuhan. This ain't like AIDS at all. I don't pay much attention to the gloom and doom boys. They love talking down the present and the future. According to them it was only good 20 years ago.

    Just got an SOS this morning from my sexy little Plan B girl. I haven't decided if I will respond and send her a little $$$ or not. She is a damn cutie and we did everything I wanted in the past and I will bet my hard earned money we will do everything I want in the future. And she is just one of hundreds in MNL, BKK, Pat, and CGK waiting for the good times to roll again. The current malaise will end. Yes, some establishments won't make it, but P4P will survive and flourish. It is human nature.
    What he said! People are acting like this is the first time in the history of mankind that something like this has happened. It is not, and it won't be the last. In a hundred years when another global disease strikes, people will be talking about the great pandemic of 2020. In the meantime, things always, always, always come back! Including pay 4 pussy. And as long as the sun keeps rising they always will. Enough with the gloom and doom already!

  15. #47814
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Meanwhile, I have yet to see a historical chart or study concluding that men having sex with men was not then and is not now the most significant sexual behavior, by far, for sexual transmission of HIV. And even in that behavior, not everything men did with men was statistically significantly risky. In fact, pretty much only one sexual act. And only to the one person on the receiving end of that one sexual act. Which then could eventually be exported to women who also engaged in that same act unprotected or vaginal sex with men who, sexually, would almost exclusively have gotten it from receptive anal sex (obviously, with a man).
    In Tanzania in the mid 2000's 15% of the adult population had HIV. Where I was working there was voluntary testing and 8% tested positive. The infections were well outside the gay man community.

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