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[TankTank123]

This report just appeared in The Guardian online newspaper:

"A group of would-be holidaymakers who flew in a private jet from London to France have been turned back. Seven men and three women arrived on the chartered aircraft to Marseille-Provence airport, where helicopters were waiting to fly them on to Cannes, where they had rented a luxury villa.
The men, aged 40-50, and women, aged 23-25, were ....... made up of several nationalities including Croatian, German, French, Romanian and Ukrainian. "

My bet is that the three 23-25 year olds are Romanian (or Ukrainian) girls.

[Pessimist]

It seems to me that this virus is bringing to boil a lot of nationalistic passions on this forum that have generally stayed hidden hitherto. The French feel their system is superior, the Japanese claim their system is superior, the Swedish feel they are superior and so forth. This type of bickering is unfortunate. The virus originated in China and has moved around the world fast. No one has truly defeated the virus yet. It is a virus if it exists in one part of the world can still pose a threat to people in other areas of the world until we find a cure and a vaccine. In my view, it is too early and premature to be celebrating and chest thumping that you are superior. We Americans have suffered a lot and when I talk to my friends here, even all the upper middle class folks who have been safely staying home, working from home, and are very comfortable, there is a deep sense of anxiety, melancholy and sadness in everyone. Even the ones who prudently got out of investments early on and staved off the losses are not celebrating. People are just sad at the loss of so many lives.

[AZN Monger]

I wouldn't bother trying to explain this to him Delta Indigo. He has pretty much hammered the same points without looking at anything that goes against what he believes.

Sweden's infected rate per million is not that far behind other hard hit countries and despite what he keeps saying, the government is considering harsher measures as COVID-19 becomes a bigger problem for the country.

https://time.com/5817412/sweden-coronavirus/

I wasn't going to answer this, but I will. My argument was that the lockdown mitigates the mortality rate and results in a slower rate of herd immunity, something which is actually happening everywhere in Europe.

All things being equal, I wanted to illustrate what could potentially happen in the total absence of a lockdown, some of the arguments I have read on the forum are like, "we have it figured out because we are just better people. " Like I said I lived in Sweden for quite a few years and I am familiar with the country.

Different countries are in different phases of this pandemic, Europe is generally in an more advanced phase than the US, death rates are now falling as opposed to the US, where the infection is in an earlier phase. Sweden is more geographically remote than Beligium and the Netherlands, this would spread northwards from the initial epicenters in Europe, ie Italy (although very the virus first appeared is in doubt). So in that respect the pandemic would hit the Benelux countries earlier than Scandinavia.

Secondly, Sweden is one of the most sparsely populated countries in Europe and the Benelux region is the most densely populated, this certainly has an effect on the progression of the disease, that is why New York is hit far harder than Los Angeles (if anyone knows this city it is a relatively sparsely populated metropolis and New York is far more dense).

So in order to compare like for like, I was comparing Sweden with Norway and Denmark, where the mortality rates are a lot lower.

What I said, and we won't know for sure which strategy was the most optimal until this is over, is that countries with a lax lockdown will pay a higher price in terms of mortality.

Let us take the 3 countries you have chosen to use as a sample set, look at the section entitled. Daily New Deaths, the trend is pretty obvious to me, especially when compared the Netherlands to Sweden, in the Netherlands the number of new deaths is stabilizing and in Sweden it is spiking. I could use even better examples, have you seen the number of new deaths in Norway compared to Sweden, but I have chosen to answer your question.

Both the Netherlands and Belgium are many times more densely populated than the populated regions of Sweden (we are not talking about Lappland here) and far closer to the major outbreaks in Europe geographically. So Sweden should have a lower mortality rate, all things being equal, at the same web site you can see the deaths per one million population, the Netherlands at 140 is quite close to Sweden at 91, even given its far higher population density.

And in addition to that, Belgium had a relatively late lockdown compared to other European countries, whether or not this relationship can be statistically proven, the Netherlands is stabilizing more quickly than Belgium.

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...untry/belgium/

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...y/netherlands/

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...ountry/sweden/

Here is your answer, I am now done with this topic.

[ShooBree]

I wasn't going to answer this, but I will. My argument was that the lockdown mitigates the mortality rate and results in a slower rate of herd immunity, something which is actually happening everywhere in Europe.

All things being equal, I wanted to illustrate what could potentially happen in the total absence of a lockdown, some of the arguments I have read on the forum are like, "we have it figured out because we are just better people. " Like I said I lived in Sweden for quite a few years and I am familiar with the country.

Different countries are in different phases of this pandemic, Europe is generally in an more advanced phase than the US, death rates are now falling as opposed to the US, where the infection is in an earlier phase. Sweden is more geographically remote than Beligium and the Netherlands, this would spread northwards from the initial epicenters in Europe, ie Italy (although very the virus first appeared is in doubt). So in that respect the pandemic would hit the Benelux countries earlier than Scandinavia..

Belgium 260 deaths per million, Sweden 79 and not 91 as you claimed. Regarding the Netherlands, 79 is not close to 140.

That you would be "familiar" to Sweden is hard to believe based on what you're writing.

The disease started in Wuhan, and the next epicenters were South Korea, Iran and Italy. Its safe to say that the virus doesn't follow a geographical pattern. It's impossible to claim that Italy should have been worse affected than any other European country based on geography. With that said it's easy to dismiss the claim that the Benelux countries should have received the virus much earlier than Sweden.

In the modern society people are traveling by airplane, not horse and carriage. That makes it much harder to predict how a virus will spread. Also, Sweden had a lot of people coming in from Iran, one of the first epicenters. Early in March the hospitals put up signs in Persian about Covid-19. As that wasn't enough lots of Swedes went to the Alps because we had a School break.

When it comes to how densely populated Sweden is the stats won't give you the full picture as we have large areas where no one resides.

The population in Sweden is much larger than any of our neighbors. There's no comparison. It makes no sense at all to compare Sweden to it's neighbors.

Denmark is doing terrible compared to Norway and Norway is doing terrible compared to Finland.

Let's count the number of newly unemployed, that's the scary statistics, not the death toll. People are being affected so badly by the measures taken to stop this little virus.

[Sirioja]

What is this siri? It is escort agencies?

Yes Russian escorts agencies. When on top on 2014/2015, Amour Russe had nearly 40 Russian beauties in Paris, at least on Megan or Linda Globe looks level. I'm sure we had the best escorts agency in the world, and if you were not known a bit as a good client, not about money but from what girls reported about you, when you asked at 10 am when booking started at 9 am, you were answered girls were full booked for the day, 30/40 girls, all full booked at 10 am, golden times in Paris, better was to have contact, more flexible to meet, when they finished day, for Russian nights. I remember my first booking for Vassilissa from Kamchatka, not the famous one with Adele on December 2012, when she opened the door, no other girl, even in real life, never made me feel like this, when I saw her face, her smile, I couldn't move on the edge of the door, so she lost her smile because she thought I didn't want to enter, I remember this 11th floor apartment, we stayed in lounge, I took care of her on the table, she moved on next day, I returned to her on next day in another place. On her second tour, she stayed 11 days, I met her 8 times, speeding back from GT to enjoy her, this was just pleasure of beauty, until she put unfortunately silicon and then she became less fresh in mind, more professional, less interesting. I also remember Polina from Sotchi on December 2012, she studied medicine so it was really interesting for sex with her, and so fresh, looking like a virgin. Russians go to Dubai but only for money, to Ibiza for money and party with drug, many are not found of London, more Polish, Hungarians, Romanians in London, but Russian girls love Paris, for money of course, but also for fashion, culture, they also used to like Milano before but quite dead now, even before virus. So many Russians returned to Paris without agency, I remember Sveta sending: I will arrive, do you want me? Siberian fireworks. Had and wish for again, great Russian times in Paris, I doubt now for Milano or Torino. I love to speak Russian with them, really erotic in bed. I remember really arguing loudly with Ana in restaurant about Putin, she shouted in Russian, everybody looking at us. When mood will be less dark, will return to taste Russian beauties, but at the moment, when job is now going on, I dream to be on 3500 meters high Girose glacier, to make a hole in snow, to go in hole and just staying like this, no sexual desire when I could go to Russian beauties.

[McGrath]

So in order to compare like for like, I was comparing Sweden with Norway and Denmark, where the mortality rates are a lot lower.

What I said, and we won't know for sure which strategy was the most optimal until this is over, is that countries with a lax lockdown will pay a higher price in terms of mortality.

Completely agree with your points. The projection of mortality rate in Sweden have the same projection as Italys in the same time. I don't think that is a succesful strategy by the Swedes as they had a headstart with knowledge about the virus compared to what the Italians knew.

[Delta Indigo]

There are no lockdown in Sweden.

The death toll in Sweden is ridiculously low, much better than Belgium, the Netherlands and Switzerland but still I don't hear you criticize them. Very interesting.

I wasn't going to answer this, but I will. My argument was that the lockdown mitigates the mortality rate and results in a slower rate of herd immunity, something which is actually happening everywhere in Europe.

All things being equal, I wanted to illustrate what could potentially happen in the total absence of a lockdown, some of the arguments I have read on the forum are like, "we have it figured out because we are just better people. " Like I said I lived in Sweden for quite a few years and I am familiar with the country.

Different countries are in different phases of this pandemic, Europe is generally in an more advanced phase than the US, death rates are now falling as opposed to the US, where the infection is in an earlier phase. Sweden is more geographically remote than Beligium and the Netherlands, this would spread northwards from the initial epicenters in Europe, ie Italy (although very the virus first appeared is in doubt). So in that respect the pandemic would hit the Benelux countries earlier than Scandinavia.

Secondly, Sweden is one of the most sparsely populated countries in Europe and the Benelux region is the most densely populated, this certainly has an effect on the progression of the disease, that is why New York is hit far harder than Los Angeles (if anyone knows this city it is a relatively sparsely populated metropolis and New York is far more dense).

So in order to compare like for like, I was comparing Sweden with Norway and Denmark, where the mortality rates are a lot lower.

What I said, and we won't know for sure which strategy was the most optimal until this is over, is that countries with a lax lockdown will pay a higher price in terms of mortality.

Let us take the 3 countries you have chosen to use as a sample set, look at the section entitled. Daily New Deaths, the trend is pretty obvious to me, especially when compared the Netherlands to Sweden, in the Netherlands the number of new deaths is stabilizing and in Sweden it is spiking. I could use even better examples, have you seen the number of new deaths in Norway compared to Sweden, but I have chosen to answer your question.

Both the Netherlands and Belgium are many times more densely populated than the populated regions of Sweden (we are not talking about Lappland here) and far closer to the major outbreaks in Europe geographically. So Sweden should have a lower mortality rate, all things being equal, at the same web site you can see the deaths per one million population, the Netherlands at 140 is quite close to Sweden at 91, even given its far higher population density.

And in addition to that, Belgium had a relatively late lockdown compared to other European countries, whether or not this relationship can be statistically proven, the Netherlands is stabilizing more quickly than Belgium.

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...untry/belgium/

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...y/netherlands/

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...ountry/sweden/

Here is your answer, I am now done with this topic.

[Chongmal]

Before I start this, I have to ask, is a pangolin related to a herbal?

Today I will focus on YingYang. This is a difficult club for me because the caught so many ladies I knew from other clubs. One of my favorites here was Bella. Her face was not perfect but I found her body quite exciting. In the bed she was amazing. I remember the first time I was with her I though she was going to consume me. It was like her pussy had suction and was pulling me in. At the same time she wrapped me up and pulled me tight. Gloria, yes, the older lady, had a magic touch. I really wish I had met her 10 years earlier, but she knew how to please a man. My all time favorite at YingYang was Hungarian Kitty. I put her down as YingYang even thow that is not where I met her. YingYang is where I had my favorite session with her. She was more of a Tiger in the bed than a Kitty. Super reactive to DATY and a bit reckless in her willingness to please a man. I remember during a long session she told me she would let me perform DATY, but with limits. It seemed some other man had an oral fetish and licked her entire body. She said she loved DATY but just because my name is Kitty doesn't mean I want a cat bath. In the end, we were on the bed, she was rubbing the head of my penis on her clit gasping in pleasure. I told her we needed to take a condom before we broke the rules. Her response was one of the most amazing things I ever heard in a Sauna Club.

[Mursenary]

More than 2000 deaths per day in US, 800 per day in NYC with many dead in fridge trucks in streets, even tigers caught virus in NYC zoo. Yes, poor people can go to hospital, but they don't, because they know they can't pay. More black people than white die from virus, this is US.

Please keep a logical mind and remember that 2000 deaths per day in a country of 320 million is much better than most of the world, most of Europe. Look at the numbers, not the anecdotal and sensational news media. Like explained, less people die per capita in America from this virus than most European nations.

European countries that have a higher death rate per million people than the USA (50 deaths per 1 million people):

France (187 deaths per million), Spain (330), Italy (302), UK (118), Netherlands (140), Belgium (218), Ireland (53), Luxembourg (83), Switzerland (110), Sweden (79).

[Mr Ho]

I would like so much you to be right, but unfortunately not, even with free beds and highest level medical equipment in hospital, old people, diabetic, fat people, bad heart people don t resist to this virus and even best doctors can t save them, reason why so many deaths in US, because so many fat and diabetic people, thanks McDo, Cola, Pepsi. I'm not paranoiac, always thinking about x files, as far I know, started from international foods market and I discovered pangolins are protected, nevertheless Asian eat them.

Siri, there are some hopes, some people, reportedly even 100+ years old are coming out alive, but yes at the moment we do not have total cure or vaccines for this. We still heavily rely on immune system of individuals with some boost with treatments and medicine such as Avigan and there are few other medicines.

You live in Paris right? It is Michelin France gave Tokyo as most numbered Michelin stars city gourmet capital in the world, even more than paris rated by French agency, and Japanese do not eat pangolins, you really think in Japan we eat Pangolins?

[Turgid]

............ We are the last remaining species of humans on Earth and, most likely, the other human species became extinct due to bacterial or viral infections. So also our species, one day, will be wiped out by a freaking virus...........

I was taught that other human species were killed by homo sapiens the only remaining human species on earth. Most likely they will be killed by homo sapiens as well.

[Sirioja]

Because I do not believe in media and government LOL.

Also there is a military laboratory in wohan China, and first virus case was found in same town. I am not saying there is magical firm, but I think it leaked out of laboratory. For instance, they were doing animal testing with corona virus, and they outsourced dead animals body, but this outsourced company did not do the job right and decided to sell this dead tested animal body to market, then somebody ate it kind of thing.

But look, I don't care because virus is already front of us and we have to deal with it. Again it is hard to control the infection rates, but we can control the death rate with this virus if health care infra structure is not destroyed, and let wait till vaccines are invented, as for now, we have Avigan made by fuji film that is working and one more medicine. But these two were not made for covid 19, but it is working on mild symptom.

I would like so much you to be right, but unfortunately not, even with free beds and highest level medical equipment in hospital, old people, diabetic, fat people, bad heart people don t resist to this virus and even best doctors can t save them, reason why so many deaths in US, because so many fat and diabetic people, thanks McDo, Cola, Pepsi. I'm not paranoiac, always thinking about x files, as far I know, started from international foods market and I discovered pangolins are protected, nevertheless Asian eat them.

[ShooBree]

What I really mean is the delayed lockdown and a more aggresive herd immunity strategy than the most common one in Europe. Both Sweden and Japan were quite late in implementing their lockdowns. Despite confident assertions to the contrary about this approach making sense, have you seen the latest death toll in Sweden, it has spiked and is now over 700, so the health care system is going to be swamped as a result of this.

Japan also had quite a late lockdown, a close relative of mine lives in Tokyo. Herd immunity will take longer to take hold with an earlier more aggressive lockdown, but the health care system will not get swamped as much as it otherwise would have. So the result of a later lockdown in Japan in fact innundates the health care system and it becomes swamped, the later the lockdown the more pressure the health care system will be subject to. So this is the opposite of what you have stated is the Japanese government's strategy.

Italy was the first country in Europe to get hit very hard, so they were more understandably late to the game. However Sweden and Japan (after China and Korea) had plenty of warning. So if the toll is high in those countries, then I would attribute it to poor policy. Both these countries have since recanted and are more aggresively pursuing a lockdown with its economic costs, however in that case, there will most likely be some needless deaths.

What would make sense, is either to lockdown early or not at all relatively speaking. The countries that implemented late lockdowns when presented with the undeniable results of having very lax lockdowns, have actually undertaken the least sensible option.

There are no lockdown in Sweden.

The death toll in Sweden is ridiculously low, much better than Belgium, the Netherlands and Switzerland but still I don't hear you criticize them. Very interesting.

[The Cane]

OK, so Japan is hiding the numbers too then. China style.

I agree that Japan has not been telling the truth, and is attempting to mislead. And they certainly have not been testing how they should. It all came out of Japan's desire to not lose the Olympics. Well, that's done for 2020, so Japan may as well get serious and start dealing with this thing the right way now, and stop trying to lead the rest of the world to believe that there is virtually no problem with COVID-19 in Japan. Otherwise, they could potentially screw things up for 2021 as well. We're not buying it, and Japan is headed towards a spike in deaths if they keep messing around with this thing in an attempt to dupe the rest of the world. We're not buying it, and we're not getting duped either! I believe there are far more infections in Japan than they claim there to be, and if they were testing like they should, then we would have the proof. When deaths start to rise, therein will be the proof! Now, I know Mr. Ho will respond to this and say it isn't true, but there is nothing he can say to change my mind. Japan is low-balling on its infection numbers to try to protect its international image and its economy. It doesn't want the world to know the true infection level. And I believe that 100%! Japan is a northern hemisphere country with lots of people traveling in and out internationally around the globe. So, why should things be different there versus in other similarly situated countries? They aren't, and time is going to show us so.

[Mr Ho]

Until Amour and Charme Russe closed after police raid, Paris was higher level for beauties than Germany. I remember on some Sundays, I drove to GT and there, I thought: why to pay for these girls? I sent message to one of my escorts, drove back to Paris to enjoy a real beauty. I remember on July 2014, I had 14 meetings with Amour Russe girls, only from Monday to Thursday, because on Saturdays, I was at Oase or World. Before virus, still attractive beauties with Rdv4U or stroll. Even under virus, still few beauties, but I have to get better mood, I don't like deaths figures, to go to enjoy.

What is this siri? It is escort agencies?