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[Stykler]

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The problem is that the LBFMs manning the call centres are not empowered to make decisions. They are also lazy and are unable to think logically. They have limited problem solving skills. Anything more complex than "Good morning Sir, how may I help you today?" or "I'm so sorry to hear that Sir" needs to be referred to supervisor. The supervisors have a little more delegated authority and ability to make simple decisions, but usually they will need to patch you into the home country's call centre where the problem will eventually get fixed. It is quite usual to call the Philippines three or four times for get a matter resolved. The problem is exacerbated because the LBFM on the graveyard shift is too lazy to type up a proper set of notes, so you have to start over again each time you call. She will rather be on PL looking for a nice white dick to fuck or scamming for some WU deposits.

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The biggest frustration I find with these overseas call centres is if the customer (me) presents a problem to the operator that isn't on their problem solving templates, they are totally incapable of resolving it. Generally their solution is to just tell you anything that may appease you even temporarily and just add you on their monthly stats as a "problem solved". The best thing about this virus is that companies will now be bringing back their customer support on-shore, and not a minute too soon IMHO.

[Dg8787]

One of my long time regulars works for a call center, she is working from home via the internet now. She was out of work for a couple of weeks but is now working a night shift from her house.

I know of a hotel that rented all 150+ rooms to a call center for its employees from March 15 onward. The call center buses the employees to and from work everyday.

Lots of call centers are still operating. Since day one call centers have been deeded essential services.

USA companies will not be bringing call centers back home. It would be too costly. It would at least 8 times their labor cost let alone the other operating costs.

[Kabul Guy]

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The Philippines call centre business will also take a massive hit soon. Many of the major airline, energy and financial services companies in my country were caught out big time when their outsourced call centres could not operate because Filipinos were forced into isolation. Thousands of irate customers could not access their accounts in a time of urgent need. There is pressure now to bring all those call centres back home.


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One of my long time regulars works for a call center, she is working from home via the internet now. She was out of work for a couple of weeks but is now working a night shift from her house.

[Engine Driver]

I doubt domestic call centers will magically allow them to ramp up to 10 x their normal call volume overnight. Asian sweatshops have the ability to instantly introduce draconian working conditions until employees are litterally swan diving off 5 story dormitories. When the media find out, Western telcos can then divert business to a sister BPO company while the situation is 'fully investigated'.

The quality of service offered by those Philippine based call centres has been so low as to render them useless in many cases. There is widespread customer dissatisfaction from people in my company. The repeated frustration is usually enough for people to switch airlines, banks or utility companies. The Wuhan bat virus will be the trigger for companies to bring services back home.

The problem is that the LBFMs manning the call centres are not empowered to make decisions. They are also lazy and are unable to think logically. They have limited problem solving skills. Anything more complex than "Good morning Sir, how may I help you today?" or "I'm so sorry to hear that Sir" needs to be referred to supervisor. The supervisors have a little more delegated authority and ability to make simple decisions, but usually they will need to patch you into the home country's call centre where the problem will eventually get fixed. It is quite usual to call the Philippines three or four times for get a matter resolved. The problem is exacerbated because the LBFM on the graveyard shift is too lazy to type up a proper set of notes, so you have to start over again each time you call. She will rather be on PL looking for a nice white dick to fuck or scamming for some WU deposits.

There is also a major culture gap between the Philippines and the West which no one took into account when creating the BPO industry. Just knowing some English is insufficient to service a Westerner with a complex problem. How can an LBFM earning 18,000 peso and living in a nipa hut be expected to resolve an issue which she cannot even relate to?

[Goferring]

I could be quarantined at home by myself or in the Philippines with some beautiful Pinays. Not a hard choice.

FYI. The supermarkets are filled with friendly, single moms happy to entertain a nice foreigner.

My condo has no problem with visitors.

Still being cooped up in suburbia, I would agree with you. Just be mindful that many Asian private hospitals, which western expats would normally turn to, are refusing to treat Covid patients and public hospitals may or may not accept foreigners.

I'm not being alarmist but I'd recommend checking your local options should the worst happen. You don't want to swap being fucked by hot single moms to being fucked by the system. 😁.

Stay safe. G.

[Goferring]

The Philippines call centre business will also take a massive hit soon. Many of the major airline, energy and financial services companies in my country were caught out big time when their outsourced call centres could not operate because Filipinos were forced into isolation. Thousands of irate customers could not access their accounts in a time of urgent need. There is pressure now to bring all those call centres back home.

I doubt domestic call centers will magically allow them to ramp up to 10 x their normal call volume overnight. Asian sweatshops have the ability to instantly introduce draconian working conditions until employees are litterally swan diving off 5 story dormitories. When the media find out, Western telcos can then divert business to a sister BPO company while the situation is 'fully investigated'.

Can't do that with western workers and employee legislation.

I'd agree that the collapse of the feeder aviation, finance, tourism industries will decimate the job prospects for Lynn and her sisters for a while yet.

[DzikaBomba]

Duterte wants to keep the Lockdown in Luzon until a vaccine for Covid-19 is invented.

Interestingly he mentioned that the united states (and not the bat eating Chinese) are part of the problem.

I think we need to live a long time without the LBFMs.

https://manilastandard.net/mobile/article/321509

[Bob Bowie]

I could be quarantined at home by myself or in the Philippines with some beautiful Pinays. Not a hard choice.

FYI. The supermarkets are filled with friendly, single moms happy to entertain a nice foreigner.

My condo has no problem with visitors.

[Gargano19]

Viets would disagree with that. They think Hanoi folk are hard necked scammers.

Viets are biggest scammers in SE asia.

1. They never return change, unless you ask.

2. Only se asia country where I have seen pick-pocketing in tourist areas.

3. Mobiles were stolen in restaurant tables by bike riders. Owner said it's pretty common here.

I have seen people getting ripped off in clubs by over priced drinks, or become victim of known tourist s scams. But I had never seen crimes happening so blatantly, until I went to latin America.

[Sammon]

Listening to experts.

1. Targeted medication.

2. Prophylactic medicine.

3. Vaccine.

Targeted medicine maybe available soon. Mongers cannot trust girls and girls will not trust us. Assuming pussy to penis transfer of virus does not take place sex will be strictly mechanical. Dip, release and go. You definitely do not want to end up in the hospital and get treated and released. You and the girl can be tested if there is a quick saliva or nose swab test by that time widely available. Even then many cannot take the risk of ending up in a foreign hospital.

Prophylactic medicine will go a long way for us mongers for the duration of the trip. Maybe make sure girl is also pre medicated.

Vaccine is the cure all to get back to normal.

[Goferring]

Mongers are hoping that the airlines are willing to take further huge losses to fly planes with a few mongers onboard to the backwaters where they practice the old in-and-out with LBFMs. They neglect the fact that the airlines are screaming bloody murder in response to demands that they refund the cash paid for tickets on all those cancelled flights to mongering destinations.

You're making the big assumption that Mongers will be able to leave home in the first place.

The world tourism industry is on its knees and governments have introduced bailout plans in the billions of dollars. It's no surprise that they are keen to relax local travel and holiday restrictions but there is no rush to allow all those dollars disappear on an overseas holiday.

7NEWS.com.au: The coronavirus international travel ban could remain until 2021.

https://7news.com.au/sunrise/on-the-...-2021-c-972446

[Engine Driver]

One good thing to come out of the Wuhan bat virus is that the West has woken up to the fact that it has been totally reliant on communist China for just about every manufactured good. There is a vague political commitment in my country to restart manufacturing at least essential medicines and equipment at home. There is also a grassroots campaign to avoid (as much as possible) buying anything made in China.

The Philippines call centre business will also take a massive hit soon. Many of the major airline, energy and financial services companies in my country were caught out big time when their outsourced call centres could not operate because Filipinos were forced into isolation. Thousands of irate customers could not access their accounts in a time of urgent need. There is pressure now to bring all those call centres back home.

Another funny thing is that people are spending extraordinary amounts of money on brand name handbags and accessories made in Italy (Prada, Fendi, Gucci etc) thinking that Italian craftsmen are in workshops toiling away. They think generations of Italians have been taught by their fathers in leatherwork, in traditional workshops, in processes unchanged in 150 years. Little do they know that these 'luxury' bags are almost all made by cheap imported Chinese labourers brought over and forced to work in sweatshops in northern Italy. There are about 300,000 Chinese workers in Italy. You can work out why Italy was so badly affected by the Wuhan virus. At least those bags are correctly labelled 'Made in Italy'.

[Chocha Monger]

It is really tripping me out how people in various threads are acting like this is just a normal holiday where everything is closed and tomorrow when the holiday is over everything will go back to normal. Well it is not that. It is economic destruction. First you have to understand like you said that the days of just waltzing up into a country are over. Then you have to realize that many people are out of work, which means people will not have money to travel as they did before. Nobody is going to send a plane loaded with 10 people to the Philippines, Thailand, Dominican Republic, Brazil, Colombia, or any other place that mongers like to frequent. No hotel is going to open its doors to only service 3 mongers that just came into town.

There is supply and demand at work. Here in Pattaya pretty much everything that does not deal with food is shut down. Many hotels are closed. Many bars, massage parlors, salons are now even empty of their furnishings, which means they do not plan to open again. All the workers (including sex workers) have gone back to their villages. It will not be like tomorrow this thing is over and the place just fills up with tourists and workers again. It will be starting from zero; just like when it was a fishing village. It will take a gradual buildup. You are not going to get a bunch of girls with no mongers but it appears mongers are willing to go somewhere in hopes there will be girls there. Then if you do come in contact with the girls they are going to be afraid to catch something from you. The clubs and bars around here can not just pop back open because the owners do not have money to pay workers since they will have been closed the last few months. And who would even open a bar or club or hotel etc without any customers to patronize them?.

Some mongers are overly optimistic about their prospects for BBFSCIP with LBFMs in the coming months. They have not factored in the global recession that will follow the Wuhan bat virus pandemic. Many mongers just saw their pension funds go poof! Others are unemployed in the soup lines. This is just the beginning of the financial chaos that is to come as corporations make further deep cuts to payroll as demand for their products take a further dive. I suggest that financially literate mongers look at what happened to sales and demand in the auto manufacturing and financing industry to get an idea of what awaits in the next six months. Mongers do not know it yet but they will be too busy trying to feed and house themselves to worry about attempting to return to Flipsville and LOS to hunt for cut rate BBFSCIP with starving LBFMs.

Mongers are hoping that the airlines are willing to take further huge losses to fly planes with a few mongers onboard to the backwaters where they practice the old in-and-out with LBFMs. They neglect the fact that the airlines are screaming bloody murder in response to demands that they refund the cash paid for tickets on all those cancelled flights to mongering destinations. In reality, not only are the planes grounded and the pilots out of a job, the support services that make sure those planes are in shape to fly safely are in dire straits. Most mongers do not have the cash to pay $20,000 USD for a charter flight from Hoboken, NJ to Manila or Bangkok.

If quarantines remain in place, mongers will arrive in Manila or LOS and spend 14 days in quarantine, which is their entire annual two-week vacation. Another 14 days in quarantine upon returning home will follow. During this time the monger's employer will terminate him for failure to return from vacation on time due to his personal decision to go on a vacation without enough time on the books to cover the quarantine requirements. A high price to pay for going in search of BBFSCIP with LBFMs.

The best looking hookers will decide to play it safe and may not want to meet unknown mongers who may be infected. This will lower the quality available to mongers who are making bigger investments to fly to backwaters for BBFSCIP with ugly desperate LBFMs. Mongers are kidding themselves if they think Flips and Thais will not blame foreigners for bringing their virus to their countries. They should expect some resentment from the natives for the foreseeable future. Pretty girls are not going to be falling line for potential coronavirus cream pies from random foreigners with marshmallow cocks.

Hotels in the Philippines may maintain their restrictions on guests bringing in random LBFMs for bodily fluid exchanges that could potentially leave behind huge viral loads on beds and furniture in their rooms. Mongers may find themselves and their hobby unwelcome at reputable lodging establishments.

Will prostitution continue during and after the pandemic? Yes. There are mongers and hookers who disregard lockdowns, quarantines, and social distancing protocols to conduct high-risk sexual transactions at great danger to themselves and others.

[PedroMorales]

Frankly I have never felt I was being scammed in Vietnam unless it was very obvious..

Viets would disagree with that. They think Hanoi folk are hard necked scammers.

[Goferring]

I think Chocha Monger exaggerates.

The Asian Financial Crisis, AIDS, SARS, 9/11, Volcanos, Sunamis, Earthquakes : tourism and hookers survive them all. If anything, prices dropped during the panics, for those brave enough to hunt off season.

Sure, recoveries were not overnight but pussy remained for sale.

Enjoy. G.