German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[Jooeey]

So Merkel Government has announced Restaurants, Bars, Cafe Cinemas will remain shut till August-31st right? So that totally diminishes the possibility of the FKK opening before 31st August is it?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKCN21X0X6

[Sirioja]

The key to reopening FKK will be cheap, fast "home" test kits. If the clubs can get access to 15 min test kits, they can add the cost of the "home" test to the cover charge. Clients can wait in the foyer until their test comes back negative. Expensive but worth it IMO.

Which foyer? Did you ever visit GT, Sharks, Oase, Globe, where entry are 2 meters square, where you would be stuck to each other if you make guys waiting for test results and when Chinese tests are not reliable. Ask UK about 3,5 millions tests they received.

[DasBooty]

The key to reopening FKK will be cheap, fast "home" test kits. If the clubs can get access to 15 min test kits, they can add the cost of the "home" test to the cover charge. Clients can wait in the foyer until their test comes back negative. Expensive but worth it IMO.

Better to test for antibodies and use accurate tests since cheap tests are less reliable. People with no antibodies can't enter and they have to pay for the test. This way management doesn't have to worry about people catching covid-19 in the club and get shutdown.

[Mr Ho]

Hi all.

Pistons made an interesting point. Very clearly the money printed can never be re-paid without either (1) hyperinflation or (b) exchange for a new currency, especially the USD, and there is a lot of serious power plays happening with Libra that will start with a proxy of fiat but no doubt will evolve to something new altogether once they get the stalking horse circulating and thus foreclose politicians febrile dreams of their central banks being able to print at will without serious consequences. The biggest future loser seems to be the USD as reserve currency, though the Euro is not much better.

Owning stock in solid little companies that stick to their knitting, like small gold miners, utilities and possibly private prisons that is a boom industry like Corrections Corp of America aka CoreCivic, Inc. (CXW) and GEO (GEO). In America, prisons and repression will be an evergreen as poverty an inequality bites. Rounding up immigrants to appease the masses adds to the load. Both companies lobby heavily and are rewarded by their bribery. GEO cites that they "served over 300,000 individuals, while managing an average daily population of close to 60,000". They pay about 10% p/a taxed as a REIT. Management makes a few token payments and PR to those "served", a couple of million, but miniscule on $US166 m net profit. They spend 7 times that where it really counts, lobbying politicians with bribes. Stopping reform of drug laws (a key revenue feeder) and bail are just some of their revenue continuity initiatives.

Once I asked my friend who works for Jp Morgan where to shelter the money, and he replied, buy a chair, safebox, and machine guns and sit in front of it LOL. He said, he is joking, but not joking LOL.

All systems are based on intellectual legal fraud. Most famously, Federal Reserve Bank, which is federal as fedex LOL!

[Pahllus Maximus]

Hi all.

Pistons made an interesting point. Very clearly the money printed can never be re-paid without either (1) hyperinflation or (b) exchange for a new currency, especially the USD, and there is a lot of serious power plays happening with Libra that will start with a proxy of fiat but no doubt will evolve to something new altogether once they get the stalking horse circulating and thus foreclose politicians febrile dreams of their central banks being able to print at will without serious consequences. The biggest future loser seems to be the USD as reserve currency, though the Euro is not much better.

Owning stock in solid little companies that stick to their knitting, like small gold miners, utilities and possibly private prisons that is a boom industry like Corrections Corp of America aka CoreCivic, Inc. (CXW) and GEO (GEO). In America, prisons and repression will be an evergreen as poverty an inequality bites. Rounding up immigrants to appease the masses adds to the load. Both companies lobby heavily and are rewarded by their bribery. GEO cites that they "served over 300,000 individuals, while managing an average daily population of close to 60,000". They pay about 10% p/a taxed as a REIT. Management makes a few token payments and PR to those "served", a couple of million, but miniscule on $US166 m net profit. They spend 7 times that where it really counts, lobbying politicians with bribes. Stopping reform of drug laws (a key revenue feeder) and bail are just some of their revenue continuity initiatives.

Their 2019 report notes "We continue to be encouraged by the current landscape of growth opportunities", the subtext being reliable recidivism and desperate governments that have to lock up the ever growing poverty demographic. They also have diversified income with ankle bans, prison buses, shitty medical care (but paid for at full rate by taxpayers) and various other stuff (they diversify income by forcing families to pay for ancillairy services). The neat part of the latter is that the families do crime to pay the ancillary fees that is a terrific positive feed back loop. Also impressive is that they are diversifying internationally, though some state governments make noises of taking it back. Probably caused by the odd expose of how the operation is basically a human-form boarding kennel or animal agistment facility. But the trend is clear, they will win until and if there is major social and taxation reform. And that is a fantasy !

I don't approve of the prisons, but we are in a post truth world of a fully monetized government and cash needed to market their respective political franchises to the gullible that keep voting against their rational economic interests.

Any other ideas of where to shelter $$$ ?

[Pessimist]

The key to reopening FKK will be cheap, fast "home" test kits. If the clubs can get access to 15 min test kits, they can add the cost of the "home" test to the cover charge. Clients can wait in the foyer until their test comes back negative. Expensive but worth it IMO.

That is true. If it can be done in 15 minutes, it is possible. Also has to be inexpensive enough. I am not sure how much customers are willing to pay. Tough to imagine too many guys can more than 50. If the entry fee still remains in the 50 to 70 Euro, say 60 as the average, an additional 50 pushes total entry to 110. A lot of locals who attend the clubs once or more than a week and take a max of one to two sessions will find it hard to justify such combined entry fee.

Also, the girls would have to pay the fee, on a daily basis. That increases their hurdle to 150 or more, just to get their money back. They will push for extras even more.

What about the staff? I guess the club will have to foot their testing bill.

[Sirioja]

Still talk about Coronavirus in the Lounge thread. No one pay BitCoin to read just this. There is a specific Caronavirus thread for members who infatuated with the weird virus talk. Caronavirus thread was kindly set up by Admin. Please have consideration for members.

But you can tell about your FKK experiences, to entertain us while this black time. I could go to Russian escorts, but no libido reading deaths, unemployment.

[Sirioja]

One of my memories from Sharks last month is seeing the front desk refuse entry to an Asian man who was pissed off, shouting and banging his fist on the counter and had to be removed by security. When FKKs do open whenever that may be what will be the deal with Asians? And Americans for that matter? Will it be only Europeans and British allowed initially?

Not many, but few Asian types at Sharks on 13/14 March, Elen for her usual business. Selection was temperature taken, no selection at Oase. I m pretty sure virus was already, and will return when opening. Better to have recovered before going.

[MaxSquatter]

VERY INTERESTING IDEA! Brothels are the only place I can think of where clients would be willing to pay that 50, 100 extra needed to get into an establishment. Get the word out!

The key to reopening FKK will be cheap, fast "home" test kits. If the clubs can get access to 15 min test kits, they can add the cost of the "home" test to the cover charge. Clients can wait in the foyer until their test comes back negative. Expensive but worth it IMO.

[Clodius1]

The key to reopening FKK will be cheap, fast "home" test kits. If the clubs can get access to 15 min test kits, they can add the cost of the "home" test to the cover charge. Clients can wait in the foyer until their test comes back negative. Expensive but worth it IMO.

[Pessimist]

One of my memories from Sharks last month is seeing the front desk refuse entry to an Asian man who was pissed off, shouting and banging his fist on the counter and had to be removed by security. When FKKs do open whenever that may be what will be the deal with Asians? And Americans for that matter? Will it be only Europeans and British allowed initially?

I don't know about nationality (perhaps it will be limited to Germans for the first few weeks?) but in the longer run, a minimum FKK reception lady check will include a quick temperature scan and other obvious checks like cough etc. I suspect we should get used to it. In NYC, pre-2001, we would walk up to elevators but ID checks at security became mandatory, TSA scans and shoe removal became mandatory at airports world over, and for the rest of our lives we may need to get our temperature scanned at every entrance. Perhaps something we may have to live with.

[Turgid]

I will go out on a limb and predict that the chance of large Hessen clubs like Sharks and Oase opening before September is less than 5% and before December is less than 25%. That is my own forecast, we will see if I am right or totally off.

One of my memories from Sharks last month is seeing the front desk refuse entry to an Asian man who was pissed off, shouting and banging his fist on the counter and had to be removed by security. When FKKs do open whenever that may be what will be the deal with Asians? And Americans for that matter? Will it be only Europeans and British allowed initially?

[Turgid]

Still talk about Coronavirus in the Lounge thread. No one pay BitCoin to read just this. There is a specific Caronavirus thread for members who infatuated with the weird virus talk. Caronavirus thread was kindly set up by Admin. Please have consideration for members.

You do realize that you have added to the conversation on coronavirus.

[Pistons]

Still talk about Coronavirus in the Lounge thread. No one pay BitCoin to read just this. There is a specific Caronavirus thread for members who infatuated with the weird virus talk. Caronavirus thread was kindly set up by Admin. Please have consideration for members.

Well, you'd pay with your BitCoin anywhere, because soon BitCoin's will be worthless. There will soon be a new global digital currency in the wake of this corona crisis. Which actually did not start off as a corona-crisis, but a financial crisis last year with all the repo loan injections that went haywire.

When this new digital currency will appear, I am unsure of. Some people talk about 'later this year', but personally I think we will have to wait until next year most likely, or even 2022. So your BitCoins will have some time left at the very least.

Just think of it this way. The one establishment that will 'save us all' from impending financial doom will be the state, or rather the central banks through the state. So all ownership will go to the central banks. And that is the final puzzle needed in order to hand out digital basic income, implement a new global world currency without all the negatives of the petro-dollar, fight all sorts of crime through digital blockchain surveillance, and legalize all sorts of unholy sex (like we've seen with the LGBT movement). So I predict the world to get more germanized in legalizing p6 through all of this. Taxes from labor will be removed in trade for tax on digital blockchain money instead, and finally the world will be ready for the 21st century. Something I cannot say for the system we have in the world as of today. Which is terribly outdated, and does not comply well with coming future technologies we will see in the next few decades.

[The Cane]

I was wondering about this as well, but in all fairness, these posters are talking about when the FKKs will reopen and that is completely relevant to this forum. Also whether we realize it or not, this pandemic has affected almost everyone and all aspects of their life like mongering.

Some people have been annoyed by the discussions about it and when they complain I think there has always been a reasonable answer.

- What mongering experiences can you enlighten us about right now?

Anyhow, they are talking about the reopening of the FKKs in relation to the pandemic, so it is relevant in my opinion.

Have you seen the other forums, they are full of discussion about the pandemic no matter what the subject matter is. The admin certainly cannot open a Coronavirus thread on every forum, but he has in our case.

Exactly my thoughts Delta Indigo. I mean, the entire world is talking about this right now! And, it's not like too many guys can be writing about what mongering experiences they're having at the moment. The world is in lock down, and we can't travel freely to our favorite mongering destinations. We here aren't immune (no pun intended) from everything else that's going on in the world today. These are unusual times, and I think people ought to just ease up and let this discussion, like the virus, "run its course", until things stabilize enough that we can get back to something that looks more like "normal". After all, this is the lounge where there ought to be a lot more flexibility and acceptance around what is appropriate to be discussed.