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  1. #335
    Quote Originally Posted by Dreams  [View Original Post]
    Please define "war levels".

    Vietnam war? 50000.

    Holocaust? 6.000.000.

    First WW: 10 Millions.

    Japanese invasion of China? (200000 Chinese casualties just in Shanghai).
    58300 death in USA, it is more than Vietnam war and it is 58200 death in Vietnam war by the way, respect the victims and get your figures more or less correct and be correct with these thing, not wrong.

    You are very wrong as usual. See, very wrong.

    Same with mask, just do not listen till it is too late, but I am glad that people are wearing mask in west too finally. It helps.

    I am not here to educate you, I am tired of teaching you thing, just get things right, it is not hard to research.

    And it is war level death rates, it is not even simple math, it is to with reading numbers, so read numbers correctly and above is one example, just do research yourself and be correct with these thing, it is easy, do not be wrong.

    It is war level death rate!

  2. #334
    Quote Originally Posted by Dreams  [View Original Post]
    Not sure how this relates to my post.

    But if you had been in Bergamo end of March you may have changed your mind.

    Anyway, I have worked in Sweden many years, and know well the Swedish mentality, very friendly, I liked my time there, but terribly arrogant, they always know better. I was there when Olof Palme was assassinated. They always thought that this kind of things could never happen in their wonderful free society. And could only happen in the uncivilized parts of the world I. E south of Malmoe. Same about them teaching us, those guys living near the Mediterranean, how we should treat better our North Africans immigrants. Now look at the mess they are in with their own, Malmoe is a no-go area.
    I do not find Swedish people arrogant at all, I am sure you may find few that are, but I find Swedish people to be friendly and very fair people, often too fair or try to be so. Maybe your attitude toward them made them defensive that you find them arrogant.

    But hey, Sweden is doing good, it is not war level there, it is not war in Sweden!

    Where as certain part of Europe is basically at war level death rates with covid 19 and death rate keep on increasing, it is modern day Third world war!

  3. #333
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    I was really surprised when heard French doctors, because for me, smoking kill, but not many smokers died from virus, I think only around 15% of deaths, when they should have bad lungs. Maybe also old don't smoke much. I think also more men than women die.
    There are some report that smoking may prevent dementia too.

    Personally I stay away from smoking beside smoking joint in Europe now and then, but even that I stopped, I had my part of fun. If they legalize THC food in Europe, then I will go and eat that for my enjoyment. I would love to go to THC restaurants some fine day. There are some, but not in the nations and area that I frequent.

  4. #332
    Quote Originally Posted by Clodius1  [View Original Post]
    I survived the second wave as a child. Almost wiped out my family. Affected people of all ages, children and adults. Nasty stuff.
    When I woke up like 20 min ago and read this comment of yours, I thought you are the child who survive covid 19 virus and the child is writing on sex forum LOL But then I noticed it is different virus back in the day LOL!

  5. #331
    Quote Originally Posted by Dreams  [View Original Post]
    Please define "war levels".

    Vietnam war? 50000.

    Holocaust? 6.000.000.

    First WW: 10 Millions.

    Japanese invasion of China? (200000 Chinese casualties just in Shanghai).
    Numerically, it is at war level, it is war! LOL.

  6. #330
    Quote Originally Posted by Dreams  [View Original Post]
    Its not by repeating endlessly the same lies that it make them true.

    Still waiting for the scientific links proving efficacy of Avigan, in which patients (young, old, mild, severe).
    Google yourself LOL there are plenty. 20 nations are going to use it for treatment including Germany, so I think German government approval is more relevant than your "professional" amateur opinion LOL!

    Use google, I am tire of educating you. Google is good tool, do you know it? LOL!

  7. #329
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    Real French foods didn't change, but more and more MacDo for child, not best for their health, even gift with foods.
    Well French chefs contributed greatly in area of fusion food, but in very good way, there are some contemporary touch to it in positive sense of word and the best one is french and Japanese cuisine combine, I have seen french or Japanese chefs combining both cuisine together like use of miso paste in french food etc.

    As for fast food movement like Mac do, burger king, taco bel etc. That is everywhere unfortunately. I like eating good Kobe beef burger or wagyu burger in Japan or even in Europe I find in some places mostly in good hotels or I also like eating good hamburger in Germany actually, but authentic ones, not in Macdo or Burger king.

  8. #328

    End dates predictions for FKK lands (study)

    Based on the Singaporean data mined study and models (as of 27/4) -- which is updated daily -- the 97%, 99% and 100% end dates of the Covid19 pandemic are:

    Germany: 4 May 20; 16 May 20; 6 Aug 20.

    Austria: 19-April 20; 29-April 20; 13 Jun 20.

    Switzerland: 28 April 20; 9 May 20; 7 July 20.

    So if we are optimistic and clubs will be allowed to open once 99% of the Covid19 is over then by mid May all FKKs could be open. If we are pessimistic then mid June FKKs in Austria will open first, then in July in Switzerland and in August Germany.

    Link: https://ddi.sutd.edu.sg/when-will-covid-19-end.

  9. #327

    No

    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    Sweden's approach is worth study and reminiscent of 1968-70; what is interesting is that its death rate via covid 19 is less than most other European countries with severe lockdowns.
    Sweden's death rate is much higher than their Nordic neighbors, which given the population profiles makes for the best comparisons.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/28/europ...ntl/index.html

    I'm not sure why there is such an abundance of Covid-19 misinformation in monger forums. But I'm ready to move on and let the ignorance flourish. Is too much work correcting it all.

    Cheers gentleman and stay safe.

  10. #326
    Quote Originally Posted by MrHo  [View Original Post]
    Well French food are pretty creamy and rich in butter and yeah maybe on top of that arrival of American food has helped to make people diabetics, but just death numbers are crazy, it is war level death rate.

    There also is speculation, like in Japan, when we are born, it is mandatory to take BCG vaccines by force, so there is speculation that it has something to do with not making condition worst if you are infected with corona virus.

    Bottom line is nobody knows, and we have avigan and one more medicine till vaccines arrives in about 1.5 years they say, and both medicines at least avigan is in mass production right now and also hopefully weather in summer may calm corona down a bit, so fingers cross and stay home.

    Whatta strange era we get to experience.
    Real French foods didn't change, but more and more MacDo for child, not best for their health, even gift with foods.

  11. #325
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    The Hong Kong flu killed over one million people world wide. It struck in two waves with the second wave being worse than the first. It first struck in 1968 and finally completely subsided in 1972. I remember it well I was a teenager back then. I remember there being a lot of talk about it but it was no big deal. Within two weeks of its emergence in July in Hong Kong, some 500,000 cases of illness had been reported. The summer Olympics was held in Mexico in October,1968. Woodstock (crowd of over 400,000), which I wanted to attend was in 1969 but my parents wanted me to come with the family on Caribbean cruise which we did in the summer of that year.

    I think the difference between back then and now is firstly, there are many more people in the world today and international travel is greater now so that disease spread is easier and more rapid. Furthermore the world is much more politicized now and leaders retaining their position in government is highly dependent on containing the virus within their respective countries. Sweden's approach is worth study and reminiscent of 1968-70; what is interesting is that its death rate via covid 19 is less than most other European countries with severe lockdowns.
    I survived the second wave as a child. Almost wiped out my family. Affected people of all ages, children and adults. Nasty stuff.

  12. #324
    Quote Originally Posted by Dreams  [View Original Post]
    Nicotine may protect smokers against the risk to catch it. One does not know yet really how good and efficient is this protection, and how much you need to have smoked.

    But what is 100% sure is that once a smoker gets it, his risks of having severe pneumonia and death are much higher. Based on hose facts, everyone can choose and decide what to do or not to do.
    I was really surprised when heard French doctors, because for me, smoking kill, but not many smokers died from virus, I think only around 15% of deaths, when they should have bad lungs. Maybe also old don't smoke much. I think also more men than women die.

  13. #323
    Quote Originally Posted by Dreams  [View Original Post]
    Nicotine may protect smokers against the risk to catch it. One does not know yet really how good and efficient is this protection, and how much you need to have smoked.

    But what is 100% sure is that once a smoker gets it, his risks of having severe pneumonia and death are much higher. Based on hose facts, everyone can choose and decide what to do or not to do.
    I think in USA, Trump has clamped down on the sale of nicotine patches. Maybe just with OTC sales, not sure.

  14. #322

    Very interesting!

    Quote Originally Posted by Downandup  [View Original Post]
    Singapore University of Technology and Design has a set of predictions on when coronavirus might end worldwide and for many counties.

    https://ddi.sutd.edu.sg/when-will-covid-19-end
    According to these projections the end of the epidemic in Germany is expected around 6th June, so on the 7th June we may be able to be hand-in-hand with our favourite girl again on our way to the room! LOL.

    Rock.

  15. #321
    Quote Originally Posted by DeltaIndigo  [View Original Post]
    This is true, statistics are tricky, and it is hard to equate them 100 percent. In your example, Belgian is an outlier in how it counts its mortality rate, I had read about this and this explains why Belgium's rate is much higher than the Netherlands. However most of the measures are broadly similar and when you see compare outliers you can notice interesting things.

    This pandemic has taught us a lot, for example, the German health care system is far more effective than that of France, Italy, Spain and the UK. I am now comparing large countries, the mortality rate figures do not use the exact same methodology, but the numbers are so far apart it is very hard to deny that the Germans have handled this very well.

    I like comparing like for like and not completely different countries for the reasons you quoted. In this way it is interesting to note why Belgium's figures were so high and you are right, it is not indicative of policy or its health care system. I was also interesting to compare Switzerland and Austria, Austria has handled this quite a bit better than Switzerland, which has a private health care system, you can draw your own conclusions but I have long thought that the public system in German and Austria is a lot better than the private on in Switzerland. However the private system in Switzerland seems to be a hell of a lot better than the public one in the UK.
    Yeah, the temptation to read to too much from Corona death tolls on nationalistic lines is misleading, sometimes jingoistic and just plain nonsensical. Asian nations have been used to fighting respiratory viruses for a while and took this seriously, locked down very early and prevented deaths. Taiwan, being Chinese Formosa, has had 430 cases in total -- right on China's door step. Just 6 people died, as compared to 385 in Japan -- Japan does have 5 times as many people, but still adjusted per population, Taiwan has fared much better.

    Vietnam, another country in the vicinity, has had less than 300 cases and zero deaths. Vietnam has 95 million people, only 31 M less than Japan population. Our friend has a habit of dismissing countries he does not like as showing unreliable data, not believable etc, but I think it is clear that Vietnam and Taiwan have controlled it better. Some reasons are obvious. Their populations are more docile and do not question or flout government rules, lockdowns actually work as intended, infected people were forcibly detained in government facilities in Vietnam when they had the virus, their healthcare facilities were on high alert from the beginning of the outbreak and so on. Yes, the US got caught with its pants down this time but if a vaccine or cure comes, it will be American or German / English or some other Western European. I expect France to also cope well with any future virus breaks, and Italy and Spain to do much better than this one. But if corona deaths are the sole indicators of a country's healthcare system, does anyone think Vietnam has a better one than Italy? Next time you become sick, where would you rather be? Italy or Vietnam?

    As for the overall tone about Japan, I pointed out once before that GDP per capita in Japan is $39.2 K, only $5 K more than Italy's and $8,000 less than German per capita GDP and $23 K less than US per capita $62.5 K (World bank -- easily seen o Google search). Our friend countered with China having large GDP only due to large population and missed the point that these are *per capita*; Yes, Japan is an important ally, and is an important country in Asia with some Western democratic values and a good counter to have against rising China. But from American pov, it is China and its strength which is a huge concern to our president, our businesses and our population these days.

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