East China - Shanghai

[Bad Boy Billy]

I would definitely repeat with Cecilia, and am interested to meet more Indonesians if we're ever allowed to travel to Hong Kong again.

Well forget HK - head to SG and jump a 1 hr ferry ride over to Batam. Countless young fresh Indo girls at 1/3 to 1/4 price you will pay in HK. But that is way OT for SH thread. Sorry.

[Intransit]

Continuing my journey through Shanghai's floating world, I booked a bit of time with Cecilia. It's interesting how in the world's most populous nation, foreigners rely in large part on other foreigners for their paid intimate forays. In Beijing, it's Mongolians; in Shanghai, Vietnamese; Hong Kong gets Filipinas, with Thais and Indonesians thrown in. So, to encounter an Indonesian woman in Shanghai was definitely different.

I'the only met one before, "Crazy" Gigi that did the 141 thing in Hong Kong many years back, via whom I am likely blood brothers with quite a number of others on this board. But my experience with Gigi was good if unsettling, and I'the run across numerous Indonesians at clubs in Hong Kong, but too late in the evening to move any further.

If I recall correctly I found her on MR and then connected through her website. Her website is accurate, that's her. But she looks much more Southeast Asian in person than she does in the photos. I wasn't worried about her Indonesian — I was worried that she'the be a Chinese woman calling herself Indonesian as a marketing ploy.

We agreed to meet at her outcall location. "Out" is the operative word here — you're not going to bounce there during your lunch hour from anywhere in central Shanghai. Good news is it's unlikely anyone would recognize you going there. The setup is clean and comfortable. We showered separately, followed by a decent massage, which was welcome. Then we got started. I showed her some attention, and she loosened up, with things becoming quite passionate, if not straight-ahead. Cecilia is not on the Cathy-end of Shanghai providers. She's a nice woman, I could see how she'the quickly become a girlfriend, so this was more of a GFE experience. She requested that arrive while we were in the standing position, rather than in her mouth, and I agreed, having enjoyed our time together. Originally, I had booked a nuru massage, then decided against it in advance. We said goodbye and I left, getting lost on the way back to transport wandered around in the Shanghai hinterland for longer than I expected or hoped.

I would definitely repeat with Cecilia, and am interested to meet more Indonesians if we're ever allowed to travel to Hong Kong again.

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[AnotherOne4]

With the big meetings approaching it seems rainy season is appearing in Shanghai with a few shops closed and raids happening this week.

Stay safe!

Would this be nationwide?

[PlaceKicker]

MPs can be hard to find, depending on where in the city you are. In Minhang for instance where it's gone underground for a while you wouldn't easily find any without help.

Just for an example, here's a spot in Xuhui more or less like the old Changshou place. Closest metro is Line 12 Hongcao, north about two blocks on Tianlin Road. Inside the plaza it should be easy to identify a fairly large Starbucks, a little to the left of that there are stairs up leading to a net cafe. Pass through their lobby towards a shared bathroom for the floor and keep going down a hallway into the interior of the building. There's an elevator and stairs on the right-hand side, and the first door past the stairs is the spot. Totally unmarked, it just looks like an office or residence's door. They monitor the camera that looks like it's pointed at the elevator, but prefer messaging inside once you add their contact.

So how similar to Changshou? Had at max 20 people as well though haven't asked recently, rooms might be somewhat fewer and smaller but much cleaner overall (no more wet towels or smells of clogged drains). Busy overall so the waiting room is still a possibility, though haven't seen foreigners yet. Routine is basically the same, hell some of the people were at Changshou before. Price is different though, hiked after crackdown and again after outbreak so it's 358 now.

MPs have been depopulating a bit though, so even areas / streets if not specific addresses would help to locate spots.

[Sinofaguo]

How would that work? I mean when LE raids a parlor / shop there are usually multiple girls and clients, but in case of an apartment or QQ girl there is usually only one girl, so lot of effort for a small catch (in some cases you can arrange double flight though). A shop raid is part of the red envelope circuit (I guess), but how would that work in case of a QQ girl. Or is the main purpose here to scare off other girls operating out of their homes and of course hungry punters.

PS. Could you please provide a link to the report, thanks !

The places reported to having been raided are of 2 sorts:

Some appartments which are usually called studios in the adds from chinese sites & wechat accounts with a bunch of "saunalike girls". Other old communities where the local old people have been reporting strangers during the day due to their fear of covid.

Its unclear how it goes from there. I guess the usual thing where they ask for a confession and checking both people phone and wechat to see the kind of messages which were exchanged.

Thats how some people got busted with Steven's SNG ring, they were 2 consenting adults and police just confronted the people involved with CCTV images asking them to confess based on these images and wechat messages. They were not necerly caught during the act.

Same thing in Hongqiao a few years back in front of a MP or the MP at Xikang / Changping in Jing'an where a customer going out from the shop was asked by the police what he had done there and that if he confessed they wouldn't bother him (which usually is a lie. Confessing rarely exonerates you in China).

[Member #4689]

New strong winds this time in xuhui district. Some appartment girls (many in this area) have also been targeted according to the reports.

How would that work? I mean when LE raids a parlor / shop there are usually multiple girls and clients, but in case of an apartment or QQ girl there is usually only one girl, so lot of effort for a small catch (in some cases you can arrange double flight though). A shop raid is part of the red envelope circuit (I guess), but how would that work in case of a QQ girl. Or is the main purpose here to scare off other girls operating out of their homes and of course hungry punters.

PS. Could you please provide a link to the report, thanks !

[Sinofaguo]

New strong winds this time in xuhui district. Some appartment girls (many in this area) have also been targeted according to the reports.

[Gamer76]

With the big meetings approaching it seems rainy season is appearing in Shanghai with a few shops closed and raids happening this week.

Stay safe!

I thought the meeting was about opening up things.

[Sinofaguo]

With the big meetings approaching it seems rainy season is appearing in Shanghai with a few shops closed and raids happening this week.

Stay safe!

[TT2000]

This approach makes a lot of sense.

With apartment gals or incall gals or whatever, I was always a little nervous about going to their apartment complexes, and now, given the situation, I feel it's even more nerve wrecking. Almost all of them live in rundown complexes, so we just look weird walking around their complexes, especially because we look different and because we are wandering around looking lost, so everyone knows we don't really belong there. I try to dress way down whenever I went there. Recently, I got yelled at by the security of a complex, and they even threatened to call the police. But luckily one of them realized that they were overreacting and I was able to just walk away. So, for now, I am going to avoid going into their apartment complexes. I actually have an ATF apartment gal, and she said that she had to meet me at the front gate to escort me into the complex, but I decided it wasn't worth the attention.

As for MPs, most of them seem open. Extras are now more plentiful than ever before at any MP that is NOT a well known legit chain. I think the MP bosses are letting the gals do almost whatever they want, to allow both the shop and the gals to recover financially. I've been to a half dozen places in the past few weeks. One gal even offered BBFS but I chickened out. There's no point in naming MP places because, like I said, every MP (except for famous legit chains like Kang Dao) has extras on offer. And also, I don't even recall some of their names or addresses. I suggest that you just try it out. Ask for a pretty girl. They will get the hint. If they are a legit place, they will say so, and then just walk out. Or just go the ones that you used to go to. I am pretty sure they will be open, and very eager to accept you.

[Midwestern]

With apartment gals or incall gals or whatever, I was always a little nervous about going to their apartment complexes, and now, given the situation, I feel it's even more nerve wrecking. Almost all of them live in rundown complexes, so we just look weird walking around their complexes, especially because we look different and because we are wandering around looking lost, so everyone knows we don't really belong there. I try to dress way down whenever I went there. Recently, I got yelled at by the security of a complex, and they even threatened to call the police. But luckily one of them realized that they were overreacting and I was able to just walk away. So, for now, I am going to avoid going into their apartment complexes. I actually have an ATF apartment gal, and she said that she had to meet me at the front gate to escort me into the complex, but I decided it wasn't worth the attention.

As for MPs, most of them seem open. Extras are now more plentiful than ever before at any MP that is NOT a well known legit chain. I think the MP bosses are letting the gals do almost whatever they want, to allow both the shop and the gals to recover financially. I've been to a half dozen places in the past few weeks. One gal even offered BBFS but I chickened out. There's no point in naming MP places because, like I said, every MP (except for famous legit chains like Kang Dao) has extras on offer. And also, I don't even recall some of their names or addresses. I suggest that you just try it out. Ask for a pretty girl. They will get the hint. If they are a legit place, they will say so, and then just walk out. Or just go the ones that you used to go to. I am pretty sure they will be open, and very eager to accept you.

So recently I tried a few options from aish. My Chinese is good, so most of the girls assumed I was Chinese. However, just to check I told them I was a white foreigner and most turned me down. I got one nice looking one that didn't care, problem is when I went to her compound, the baoan checks my health code, becomes really suspicious because I'm a Laowai and just follow me around everywhere. For obvious reasons the girl couldn't come down or tell me exactly where she was yet. She apologized profusely, but it was not possible.

If you'd like to try your luck with any of those on the site, I'm happy to help. I figure I may want to try some of the MP's, but I don't know any recently. Are these the same as the Spa's that used to exist or other locations? Would really appreciate some info on good MP's by private message if need be.

Thanks!

[CoconutWater89]

So recently I tried a few options from aish. My Chinese is good, so most of the girls assumed I was Chinese. However, just to check I told them I was a white foreigner and most turned me down. I got one nice looking one that didn't care, problem is when I went to her compound, the baoan checks my health code, becomes really suspicious because I'm a Laowai and just follow me around everywhere. For obvious reasons the girl couldn't come down or tell me exactly where she was yet. She apologized profusely, but it was not possible.

If you'd like to try your luck with any of those on the site, I'm happy to help. I figure I may want to try some of the MP's, but I don't know any recently. Are these the same as the Spa's that used to exist or other locations? Would really appreciate some info on good MP's by private message if need be.

Thanks!

Do you find you are being turned down much more as a western foreigner in China because of shifting attitudes toward westerners in general resulting from the corona situation?

[Esvees]

So recently I tried a few options from aish. My Chinese is good, so most of the girls assumed I was Chinese. However, just to check I told them I was a white foreigner and most turned me down. I got one nice looking one that didn't care, problem is when I went to her compound, the baoan checks my health code, becomes really suspicious because I'm a Laowai and just follow me around everywhere. For obvious reasons the girl couldn't come down or tell me exactly where she was yet. She apologized profusely, but it was not possible.

If you'd like to try your luck with any of those on the site, I'm happy to help. I figure I may want to try some of the MP's, but I don't know any recently. Are these the same as the Spa's that used to exist or other locations? Would really appreciate some info on good MP's by private message if need be.

Thanks!

[ChinaOnceMore]

Tried another girl from AISH.

Got her wechat in my phone, asked for more information, she sent me the are where she lives, prices and what-not.

700 for 1 P, 1 hour or so, definitely worth it if you are willing to risk going into unmarked buildings. The girl added me to a chatgroup where many escorts post if they are available, it seems to be run by them. The two girls were pretty close to their pictures from their wechat.