Rants and WTF are you talking about and Coronavirus!

[Pessimist]

I will step in since my question lead to the response you responded to. As an American, currently living in the US after nearly 2 decades living in Europe, the US healthcare system confuses me. I recently saw a doctor for a partially torn muscle in my bicep. Five minutes, they didn't even take my blood pressure. I received the bill, $256, to be told to cut back 50% on my lifting for two weeks. My health insurance doesn't cover anything yet because I haven't spent $7 k on medical this year. Oh, and I will spend $6 k out of my pocket for insurance. In the area of the US where I live the average income is less than $25 k annually. For that average group to have to potentially pay over 50% of their income on medical expenses in a year is criminal. Let's imagine they say, I'm skipping insurance because I can use that $6 k. Well, the insurance companies have negotiated rates that are less than those who don't have insurance are charged. So if you can't afford insurance the medical providers take more of your money than if you could afford the insurance.

BTW, anecdotal stories like this can vary over a large range. I have an employer paid insurance. Our co pays are a few bucks, our deductibles are pretty much nothing because my employer absorbs them, and I or my family members have been in hospital stays, even a few procedures which cost north of $100 grand and we paid nothing out of pocket. We walked right into the hospital when the need arose and no referral needed because we are on PPO choice plus plans, and we don't need to go through a primary care gate keeper. I know I Am lucky to have a good plan but so do millions of other Americans. For every tough experience, there are hundreds of good experiences as well.

As for medical school tuition, yes it costs money here but the payoff is amazing. I have several friends in the physician / surgical profession and some of them are making high six figure dollar amounts annually, wand quite a few have net worth north of $5 million (the ones who have been doing for 20-30 years and where both spouses are doctors are likely even worth $10 M). I doubt that sort of wealth can be created in Europe. Their taxes are high, take home pay is lower, per capita annual net income is significantly lower, and far fewer people have millions of net worth. Is it good or bad? Depends on who you ask. I think those discussions are beyond the scope of this site. What I don't like or care for is people hiding their own nationality (which is fine actually because this is an anonymous board), giving intentionally fake hints to suggest they are from somewhere else, and then taking cheap shots at other nations.

[Sirioja]

I would like to say for some guys here, France have nothing to do with my writings which are only my subjective opinions and most french on this forum or in clubs don't even agree with me, but in France, we have freedom culture, we can be communist and not persecuted, we don't hide figures when Olympics to come will give figures, to be sure about safety. In medias, France is told to have around 25000 deaths, but I wrote honestly we have unfortunately more than 30000, we know this in France, I fully agree for much too many, but at least we have explanations given and not much more than 2000 without known cause and under 70 yo, when Germany is not far from 6000 deaths. Belgium under confined is worst deaths rate, when Portugal and Greece with very average medical level, have better figures than in Germany. Many African countries have also better figures than Germany. At least in France, people and even foreigners have access to healthcare, even when not working, when poor in US don't go to hospital because they know they can't afford. Are these not real facts? When I m proud to be French, even I don't agree with economic politic, when I pay so high tax since so long, Yes, one of the biggest problem in France is highest rate of tax in the world which don't help our economy compare to China or Africa when we have much higher quality standard than most of countries in the world. If I need to be cured, I put infection in my blood when I was in Frankfurt, really difficult to drive back, I was not able to reach Paris but I fought to reach French border and I left french hospital on next day after peritonitis operation with belly cleaned with medical gaz to clean infection all over, I will never go to any other country. All french should thank our medical staff to take care of us, not only for virus. France have culture and many talents, reason why this small country is the number 1 in the world for tourism, and big loss for income on this year, same in Spain, Italy, Florida. One example for high level talents, when we have many famous artists, cookers, but when Porsche and Audi are highest level cars for me, only Ferrari and Lamborghini can compete but won't resist for same intense and long speed runs, but who build, only with hands, Bugatti which have no competitor, Ferrari or my beloved Porsche 911 turbo are far behind rockets faster than 420 km / h. I remember a NL telling me too many guys believe what I write, he is right, I don't aim to be a example, I m not, nor to have so many followers reading and repeating all what I write, I m not like my new Russian escort lovely beauty Olga, I m just proud to be different, and even paying, as a bad guy, but I would never dare to ask a girl to lick my ass, for my respect for women even prostitutes, and GT busy superstar Kate, or prettiest at Globe Megan know how I behave when they experienced both for more than 50 hours ith me. A bad guy but french Woodman is just a shameful image for men for me, I m much more impressed by Rocco Siffredi size and as I already wrote, only guys who would impress me would be those who have a woman who would say: my man makes me happy as a woman to be with him. This is what I call success to be a real man, not brothels.

[Pessimist]

I will step in since my question lead to the response you responded to. As an American, currently living in the US after nearly 2 decades living in Europe, the US healthcare system confuses me. I recently saw a doctor for a partially torn muscle in my bicep. Five minutes, they didn't even take my blood pressure. I received the bill, $256, to be told to cut back 50% on my lifting for two weeks. My health insurance doesn't cover anything yet because I haven't spent $7 k on medical this year. Oh, and I will spend $6 k out of my pocket for insurance. In the area of the US where I live the average income is less than $25 k annually. For that average group to have to potentially pay over 50% of their income on medical expenses in a year is criminal. Let's imagine they say, I'm skipping insurance because I can use that $6 k. Well, the insurance companies have negotiated rates that are less than those who don't have insurance are charged. So if you can't afford insurance the medical providers take more of your money than if you could afford the insurance.

By contrast, in Europe, my standard medical visit, which my torn bicep would fall into this category, had a charge of 28.50. In my case, I had to pay and submit the claim and 90% was returned to me by the insurance.

Thanks for sharing your experience. I did respond to your prior comment related to DRG codes. I am not going to criticize or defend the US healthcare system which is indeed complex because we have a combination of payers (private insurance, CMS, Medicaid, exchanges involved, state regulations, health savings plans) and many other complications. If you want to effect change, you need to work inside the system. Anyone can criticize of course, but real change is hard to bring unless people work together and constructively. Entire elections hinge on discussions and changes in US healthcare systems, it is not as if we don't discuss these things internally.

But your situation is different from Polyamoritst's situation. His primary motive often appears to be take cheap shots at the US. See his most recent comment above for example where he makes a nonsensical, made up accusation that US and France funded the research behind Corona virus, and tied it to some incoherent rant about iPhone. When you also notice that he intentionally camouflages his own nationality in these pages and leads with the fake usage of Arab expressions (BFsie already said however that Polyamorist actually is a resident of DE, whether he is a citizen or not), such intentionally false accusations do nothing to promote a constructive and friendly exchange of info on an international site like ISG. Why would any person intentionally uses fake Arab persona, and incite a conflict between US, France, China in a place like this? What good comes out of it?

[ExpatLover]

The Wuhan Coronavirus Lab was set up by the French government. There were staff going back and forth between China and France. So it wouldn't surprise me if the first outbreak outside China was in France.

France like a lot of French guys are willing to give lessons to everybody even the entire world, what is France today? What is the last war they won, taking out 1st and 2nd world war which they just participate modestly to the victory which would never been possible without the allies. France is a extremely spited society, in high risk of bankruptcy like Italy. Who is listening to France, USA, Germany, China? France was powerful 200 years back at least today it is just a middle size country with a lot of challenges to deal with.

[Polyamorist]

France just messed up as you can see with crazy death rates and France had corona since last December and failed to even noticed they had corona virus. Death rates has little to do with fat people etc. Not all French people are fat LOL.

France did it to themselves.

The Wuhan Coronavirus Lab was set up with the help of the French government. There were staff going back and forth between China and France. So it wouldn't surprise me if the first outbreak outside China was in France.

Yeah, everybody blames China for this, but let's not forget the role that France and the US had in funding this dangerous research. It was kind of like the way Apple outsourced its iPhone production to Foxconn in China, a place where safety and labor laws are lax. All the workers in China just follow authority blindly, no matter how bad things get.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

After research, I just bought a couple of those atmoblues.

https://atmoblue.com/index.html

It maybe too good to be true, but this is better than FFP3 - and easier to wear. The product will cost about 4 normal 30 m sessions at GT, Sharks, or so. Since I skipped a few dozen, I had the extra money.

The website says the HEPA filters in the mask are only good for 150 hours of use. If you can't replace the filters (and there is no mention of replacement filters on the website), what do you do with the mask other than throw it (and your $199) away?

[Sirioja]

A test at the airport upon entrance into a country would make more sense as well. Presenting a test result at immigration makes no sense as the visitor could have gotten infected after the test.

What is reliability for tests? Not high for those in nose.

[Turgid]

A quick test could be a way for FKK to open, everyone gets tested before they go in. I feel it would have to be quicker than an hour though.

A test at the airport upon entrance into a country would make more sense as well. Presenting a test result at immigration makes no sense as the visitor could have gotten infected after the test.

[Sirioja]

After research, I just bought a couple of those atmoblues.

https://atmoblue.com/index.html

It maybe too good to be true, but this is better than FFP3 - and easier to wear. The product will cost about 4 normal 30 m sessions at GT, Sharks, or so. Since I skipped a few dozen, I had the extra money.

Are you serious? Can you enjoy sex like this? Or is it to swim at the bottom of sea. No mask nor gloves, condom because I asked her, with my Russian model escort, or I stay in my bed.

[BigBuddy69]

After research, I just bought a couple of those atmoblues.

https://atmoblue.com/index.html

It maybe too good to be true, but this is better than FFP3 - and easier to wear. The product will cost about 4 normal 30 m sessions at GT, Sharks, or so. Since I skipped a few dozen, I had the extra money.

So you will look like the bastard son of Darth Vader and a dung fly.

[Kuni042]

After research, I just bought a couple of those atmoblues.

https://atmoblue.com/index.html

It maybe too good to be true, but this is better than FFP3 - and easier to wear. The product will cost about 4 normal 30 m sessions at GT, Sharks, or so. Since I skipped a few dozen, I had the extra money.

This is for all those sceptics that think you cannot do sex in those masks.

I have no financial interest in any of those companies. But thought this could be of interest. I purchased one of those. I colleague from Singapore has one and reports they can even do running with them. Very cool.

https://www.airplus-family.com/products/family/

https://koolmask.com

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/n...ith-botanicals#.

[DasBooty]

This is for all those sceptics that think you cannot do sex in those masks.

I have no financial interest in any of those companies. But thought this could be of interest. I purchased one of those. I colleague from Singapore has one and reports they can even do running with them. Very cool.

https://www.airplus-family.com/products/family/

https://koolmask.com

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/n...ith-botanicals#.

I would use one of those when I'm doing a girl from behind and her ass stinks. Especially the mask in the last link which had eucalyptus scent!

[Kuni042]

This is for all those sceptics that think you cannot do sex in those masks.

I have no financial interest in any of those companies. But thought this could be of interest. I purchased one of those. I colleague from Singapore has one and reports they can even do running with them. Very cool.

https://www.airplus-family.com/products/family/

https://koolmask.com

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/n...ith-botanicals#.

[Sirioja]

You do believe in what Romanian prostitutes tells and shows you though LOL. It is all fake, it is called prostitution LOL!

In brothels, I only believe in what I see or experience, when my best FKK girl, Romanian looking like a woman of course, was queen of lies and gossiping, the best and she improved so much, to follow me for my way in bed, but her lies and new image made her not anymore desirable for me as I told her, not anymore chic enough for my taste when I chose her for her manners when she started and she really impressed me on some times until mid March 2017 or when I returned to her on September when she needed less than 3 hours to reorganize as before. On Thursday, after sex, Russian from Moscow, not Romanian, Olga behave exactly like Romanians, she could tell me: condom is full, bye, see You, but not at all, I know she discovered with her round big eyes and she also showed me about her private, gave me Russian private to meet without management, after only 1 hour with a guy she doesn't know, when Paris is not so safe for escorts, unfortunately many were attacked, robbed and never returned and I had to drive to Milano for Tatar wow Zoya, I remember on ice on top of Gran San Bernardino when they closed on that mid October night, but maybe because she saw her little female dog so in love with me, maybe on next time she will propose me to try the dog, or maybe like many FKK, mostly Romanian, beauties, she just felt safe, from my manners and respect for women. She is different profile of escort, not on tour, but living in Paris for modeling and photos shooting and instagram, closer to normal woman and she didn't seem to have busy sex, so fresh and tight, a pretty Russian doll, but with exactly same behavior with me than Romanians. It must be my face to inspire trust, when I had many Russian girls for nights in not safe Paris and even a magic night in Peter for 400 USD. Also same behavior on my few visits in Catalunya with Ukrainian or Belarus Katya showing me her private, when Russians seen were not pretty enough, not on Olga look level.

[Sirioja]

It began in France according and they could not even noticed it LOL!

Like for sex, you are so impressive knowing better than doctors, when so many foreigners come to be cured and I and French who work, not many at the moment, pay for.