German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[PayForIt]

The requirement for masks in the room with no blowjob and no kissing will not be a problem for me. This will be treated in the same way as the 2017 requirement for CBJ in the room. However, a requirement for masks throughout the club is a deal breaker for me. That will mean the end of my visits to FKKs. The girl's face is very important for my decision to go to the room. Not only do I need to see how pretty or not pretty she is but also her expression and facial language which many times influence my decision as to whether to go with her or not.

+1 completely agree. I am a not interested in having sex with girls I don't consider to be attractive. You need to see their faces and as you say, expression is important. How will the girls or customers drink anything if there are masks? How will the girls smoke? It's nonsense. Either stay closed until it is safe or get to a point where it is decided that with 100% hygiene / deep cleaning after every room / minimising risk if at all possible, then open as normal. If it creates a spike close again.

[Turgid]

..........Maletzki: "Admission control with fever measurements, women have to measure fever every day. If you have over 37 degrees, you have to go. In addition, disinfection lock, mask requirement throughout the house, also in the room. No kissing, no blowjobs, just one person in the room, no gang bang. "............

The requirement for masks in the room with no blowjob and no kissing will not be a problem for me. This will be treated in the same way as the 2017 requirement for CBJ in the room. However, a requirement for masks throughout the club is a deal breaker for me. That will mean the end of my visits to FKKs. The girl's face is very important for my decision to go to the room. Not only do I need to see how pretty or not pretty she is but also her expression and facial language which many times influence my decision as to whether to go with her or not.

[Pahllus Maximus]

The idiocy of politicians, and their greed for graft is infinite. The BS about retraining former WG's for non-existent well paying and secure jobs at the end of that is the same wishful thinking nonsense about a magic equilibrium will emerge from a parallel universe to take up he slack from automation and outsourcing and restore income of the displaced. The root issue is lack of economic opportunity that drove many women into the industry in the first place. Banning the hobby ignores the basal problem of humans becoming structurally redundant to industry. It is not like a Romanian WG is going to retrain (who pays for that ? What if no aptitude ?) and become (insert buzz word adjectives that imply high pay and designer sunglasses) anymore than Joe the sheet metal worker in Ohio made redundant by automated CNC robots. Incidentally, some women like the freedom, flexibility and income it provides as well as male attention. "Retraining" to become an uber driver or packing monkey in a fulfillment warehouse is not a long term or secure job.

The problem is that the end goal of any economic rationally enterprise is ideally reducing labor costs to zero, and same for other inputs. We used to have de jure slaves, and the way AI is going will be to make the AI born into slavery.

I wonder if this anti-hooker thing is some desperate economic fantasy because the politicians must surely see that 20th century notion of employment is history, and with than come the realization that falling income to pay the overinflated bank debt bubble interest and government expenditure is toast. Anti WG industry seems to be a developed country disease that flies in the face of history. Even the old testament mentions WG's and sets rules, namely not in your home town.

Indonesia, Thailand and other places will be the new mecca for emerging commerce as our indebted, corrupt and sclerotic bank driven zombie economy and printing press of money destroys what was once a proud and good product of the renaissance, western civilization that I think has run its course absent radical rethinking about monetary policy and the dignity of people over accountants.

And yeah, rhinos are looking good, especially in sex prison USA.

[Pessimist]

Top girls from various clubs are offering 150/ h including DFK, BBBJ, even CIM. That is FKK club pricing. But 150/ h with CBJ, no DFK, no CIM is what many non FKK girls are charging. For sure FKK girls will not accept every customer and they will have different pricing. If you are not in Germany, if they don't know you very well and trust you and if you don't have any contact details. Bad luck. I don't care about sugar babes in the US. If they are that great. Why was the world visiting German FKK?.

Well, thank you for the information but you are unnecessarily being belligerent. I like FKKs for specific reasons such as a large number of naked girls available for fucking at the drop of a hat. Prices in FKKs used to be attractive but of late they are getting a bit less so. You mentioned 100 to 150 E for an hour, and while both are attractive enough prices, 150 E is no longer super low and that's my only point.

Sugar babe sites are just meeting places for guys and girls to come together and make their own free lance deals, and not just in US. I have used it in some cities in EU including in DE, and so have many others and of course there are EU based mongers using such sites as their primary form of mongering enablement. There is more legwork involved on these sites and can be hit and miss but if you choose well you can get a great deal with a pretty young lady who is not a professional and has not been fucked a dozen times on the the alone.

That said, in-call at 100 E with a top shelf FKK girl is quite an enticing prospect (if you are not deterred by Corona prospect).

[Kuni042]

Very cool information!

Here are some updates of P6 situation in Germany.

1. Escort service is allowed in NRW based on interpretation of the newest government measures by some posters on a German forum.

2. A court in NRW ruled that Tantra (erotic) massage parlor is not prostitution establishment, so it is allowed to reopen in NRW.

https://www.bild.de/news/inland/news...7992.bild.html


3. First lawsuit from the brothels of Frankfurt redlight district against Hessen state. A part of the article in the following link is as follows:

"Nothing has gone into brothels for 70 days! The whole of Hesse is loosening up, only politicians remain hard on prostitution. A good 20 brothel operators from the Bahnhofsviertel are now suing for reopening. . With a hygiene concept.

Maletzki: "Admission control with fever measurements, women have to measure fever every day. If you have over 37 degrees, you have to go. In addition, disinfection lock, mask requirement throughout the house, also in the room. No kissing, no blowjobs, just one person in the room, no gang bang. ".

The lawsuit was filed on Thursday and will reach the authorities in charge tomorrow. ".

https://m.bild.de/bild-plus/regional...fnung-70793938


4. Here is the proposal from the professional association of german prostitutes (BesD) and also serves as the guideline for prostitutes if brothels are allowed to reopen:

https://www.t-online.de/gesundheit/k...nekonzept.html

[Rogue Nation]

No way FKK girls are doing incalls for EUR100. At the best of times they were charging EUR150 minimum. Now with no clubs I would be surprised if any go as low as EUR150. Do you know anyone who has paid 100?

No way FKK girls are doing incalls for EUR100. At the best of times they were charging EUR150 minimum. Now with no clubs I would be surprised if any go as low as EUR150. Do you know anyone who has paid 100?

Most of the girls are not any longer in Germany, what they do at home I have no idea. For the few girls still in Germany, when they have no BF and live alone (very very seldom, usually they share a flat with other girls) do you really believe they want to have male visitors coming repeatedly every day? No of course that will be very bad concerning the neighbors. Yes if you have very close contact, with a girl she will meet you as a kind of friend but never for 1 hour and not just for fuck this is for sure. Today escorting in hotels is very difficult, the staff will stop it immediately. In that situation no need to speak about the costs.

At EL: You clearly have no clue what you are talking about. I have had incall / outcall offers from FKK girls ranging from 100/ h (no longer booking required) to 700/2 h (of course I wished them good luck). I have met girls repeatedly in their apartments and in hotels.

Recent FKK girls are doing in calls for 100 an hour? Are they requiring several hours of booking? One hour in call for 100 E with some of the top shelf FKK girls is a good price.

150 an hour is clearly higher than normal FKK pricing. If you are paying that much willingly, why do you blame tourists for screwing up the prices?

Top girls from various clubs are offering 150/ h including DFK, BBBJ, even CIM. That is FKK club pricing. But 150/ h with CBJ, no DFK, no CIM is what many non FKK girls are charging. For sure FKK girls will not accept every customer and they will have different pricing. If you are not in Germany, if they don't know you very well and trust you and if you don't have any contact details. Bad luck. I don't care about sugar babes in the US. If they are that great. Why was the world visiting German FKK?

They should go for less than 100 since they don't have to pay any entrance fee to the FKK: s. Now it's the time to make bargains, not to increase the rates.

Go for it. Find a top Ex-FKK girl or any other top girl for less than 100/ h. I assume you were talking about an hourly rate. Prostitution is illegal in Germany currently.

[Pessimist]

No way FKK girls are doing incalls for EUR100. At the best of times they were charging EUR150 minimum. Now with no clubs I would be surprised if any go as low as EUR150. Do you know anyone who has paid 100?

No. Rogue Nation said ex FKK girls are charging 100 to 150 Euro for an hour for in / out call. I am also surprised at that amount, especially if it is just one hour. I can see girls agreeing to 500 E for 5 hours, but don't think 100 E for one hour will cut it for them.

But as I said, plenty of sugar babes agree to $200 per session which can be an hour and half or two hours long.

[Rogue Nation]

I continue to posit that FKK's and similar venues will open on August 31.

I don't see them re-opening before end of October or even not before 2021. If they open earlier I owe you a Coke at Sharks.

[ShooBree]

No way FKK girls are doing incalls for EUR100. At the best of times they were charging EUR150 minimum. Now with no clubs I would be surprised if any go as low as EUR150. Do you know anyone who has paid 100?

They should go for less than 100€ since they don't have to pay any entrance fee to the FKK: s. Now it's the time to make bargains, not to increase the rates.

[ExpatLover]

No way FKK girls are doing incalls for EUR100. At the best of times they were charging EUR150 minimum. Now with no clubs I would be surprised if any go as low as EUR150. Do you know anyone who has paid 100?

Most of the girls are not any longer in Germany, what they do at home I have no idea. For the few girls still in Germany, when they have no BF and live alone (very very seldom, usually they share a flat with other girls) do you really believe they want to have male visitors coming repeatedly every day? No of course that will be very bad concerning the neighbors. Yes if you have very close contact, with a girl she will meet you as a kind of friend but never for 1 hour and not just for fuck this is for sure. Today escorting in hotels is very difficult, the staff will stop it immediately. In that situation no need to speak about the costs.

[Turgid]

Bfsie,

Thanks for adding some real data.

I continue to posit that FKK's and similar venues will open on August 31.

The reasons for this are that the Federal lockdown ends August 30 - https://www.bundesregierung.de/breg-...nahmen-1734724 after which large events are allowed and social distancing can end. Nothing is said specifically in regards to sex venues of any kind.

Next, neither North Rhine-Westphalia (https://www.land.nrw/de/wichtige-fra...m-corona-virus) nor Hessen (https://wirtschaft.hessen.de/wirtsch...aubt-was-nicht) have any guidance at this time that contradicts or modifies the Federal plan. Their guidance does include sex venues and does not mention any future plans.

I'm also watching http://prostitution2017.de/schutzgesetz/ to see if there might be other changes.

Spain says La Liga can reopen from June. Things are looking up.

[Turgid]

I have been saying here for many weeks that clubs will not open this year.

Recent FKK girls are doing in calls for 100 an hour? Are they requiring several hours of booking? One hour in call for 100 E with some of the top shelf FKK girls is a good price.

150 an hour is clearly higher than normal FKK pricing. If you are paying that much willingly, why do you blame tourists for screwing up the prices? BTW, if you check out the sugar babe thread here on ISG, you will see that $200 per session is fairly common price for sugar babes and that is for more than an hour and in USA at that.

No way FKK girls are doing incalls for EUR100. At the best of times they were charging EUR150 minimum. Now with no clubs I would be surprised if any go as low as EUR150. Do you know anyone who has paid 100?

[Downandup]

Bfsie,

Thanks for adding some real data.

I continue to posit that FKK's and similar venues will open on August 31.

The reasons for this are that the Federal lockdown ends August 30 - https://www.bundesregierung.de/breg-...nahmen-1734724 after which large events are allowed and social distancing can end. Nothing is said specifically in regards to sex venues of any kind.

Next, neither North Rhine-Westphalia (https://www.land.nrw/de/wichtige-fra...m-corona-virus) nor Hessen (https://wirtschaft.hessen.de/wirtsch...aubt-was-nicht) have any guidance at this time that contradicts or modifies the Federal plan. Their guidance does include sex venues and does not mention any future plans.

I'm also watching http://prostitution2017.de/schutzgesetz/ to see if there might be other changes.

[Kamsutra69]

I love Germany.

Here are some updates of P6 situation in Germany.

1. Escort service is allowed in NRW based on interpretation of the newest government measures by some posters on a German forum.

2. A court in NRW ruled that Tantra (erotic) massage parlor is not prostitution establishment, so it is allowed to reopen in NRW.

https://www.bild.de/news/inland/news...7992.bild.html


3. First lawsuit from the brothels of Frankfurt redlight district against Hessen state. A part of the article in the following link is as follows:

"Nothing has gone into brothels for 70 days! The whole of Hesse is loosening up, only politicians remain hard on prostitution. A good 20 brothel operators from the Bahnhofsviertel are now suing for reopening. . With a hygiene concept.

[Sirioja]

Here are some updates of P6 situation in Germany.

1. Escort service is allowed in NRW based on interpretation of the newest government measures by some posters on a German forum.

2. A court in NRW ruled that Tantra (erotic) massage parlor is not prostitution establishment, so it is allowed to reopen in NRW.

https://www.bild.de/news/inland/news...7992.bild.html


3. First lawsuit from the brothels of Frankfurt redlight district against Hessen state. A part of the article in the following link is as follows:

"Nothing has gone into brothels for 70 days! The whole of Hesse is loosening up, only politicians remain hard on prostitution. A good 20 brothel operators from the Bahnhofsviertel are now suing for reopening. . With a hygiene concept.

What is sex with no kissing, no pleasure, no need just to empty balls. You can have no temperature, no symptom and infect a girl who will kill many old or fat, or guys returning home to wife and children, or old mother, with killer gift. In brothels, this is just impossible to avoid spreading, just have to accept to play new Chinese roulette, or more safe to stay and take care of wife, women like pleasure.