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05-24-20 23:34 #48007
Posts: 92Post Covid
Do any of you guys know that the CDC just released new IFR numbers?
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...scenarios.html
I'll let you guys argue amongst yourselves regarding what they mean but I can see what those numbers say.
Covid will soon be a memory.
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05-24-20 20:16 #48006
Posts: 5497Originally Posted by Turgid [View Original Post]
Luckily, HIV is not an airborne virus. One has to take unusual measures and line up a set of fairly special conditions to both get it and transmit it. Not so with Covid-19, which also only superficially behaves like the flu. We are still discovering longer term issues with having acquired it, long after the typical 2 week recovery period is over. And more potential problems for young people, even small children exposed to it than previously thought.
We did not have jumbo jet airliners in 1918. The ability for a dangerous airborne virus with a weeks long infectious incubation period where no symptoms are evident (unlike the flu virus) to move from country to country, continually recirculating and resurfacing in cluster groups of people who can then pass it on to the next group by simply talking or breathing next to them is different.
And that poses uniquely complicated problems for activities that rely on groups of global travelers crowding in a room on a nightly basis to shatter Social Distancing recommendations in every possible way short of getting naked and kissing and licking each other on the spot. Mostly.
And that very thing is the end game for such a business model anyway except members of the group usually pair off to do that in a nearby room that I am pretty sure won't be fully sanitized, sheets, towels, door knobs and all every 2 hours. And then one or both of those extreme Distance violators will be returning to the bar for more interacting and pairing off.
How will the lingering fears and worries about Covid-19 effect P4P and for how long even after it is somewhat under control? Well, if the HIV era is any example, it has been 40+ years, it is or should be very well known by now that non anal sex transmission is rare, made extremely rare if not virtually impossible if dealt with by easily available modern drugs. Yet 40+ years later not a week goes by where it is not mentioned or alluded to in some form or fashion in my mongering experience and where some activity or another is refused or nearly so from worry and concern about it.
And need we be reminded that condom or no condom has zero pertinence in this matter? I would bet very few people gave the Spanish Flu a moment's thought in 1958, 40 years after it killed millions and faded away. But not so with HIV.
This lockdown and all the hassles with checking for fevers, staying indoors, business closures, etc is unlike anything people today have experienced before, including when HIV first hit the scene. It is bound to be leaving a lasting impression on current and future sweet young things' minds.
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05-24-20 17:59 #48005
Posts: 6447Planning
Originally Posted by Turgid [View Original Post]
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05-24-20 17:12 #48004
Posts: 5704Originally Posted by BamBoomBam [View Original Post]
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05-24-20 15:48 #48003
Posts: 5497Originally Posted by BamBoomBam [View Original Post]
So, let's say the go-go bars and beer bars will re-open with something akin to what we'd had before 3 months after the vaccine and/or quick fix "cure" has been disseminated and provided for virtually every human being on the planet and every new born is required to get inoculated as well. I'm beginning to think then and only then will the powers that be in Thailand feel comfortable about allowing every tourist in as before and allow people to come and go in those kind of venues as freely as before.
Do you guys have any idea how many years from now we're talking about? They can get to a point where enough tourists are allowed in to shop and buy in the various malls. As long as some strict rules regarding Social Distancing and masks are adhered to for that. But men from all over the world cruising in and out of go-go bars and beer bars, one after the other well into the night with 10 Leos or Singhas in their belly? Girls sitting on my lap one minute, another guy's lap the next and on and on for hours, shouting or even whispering in each other's face and getting drunker? Wow. There better be a worldwide miracle cure and vaccine available to everyone on the planet coming down the pike if that is going to happen any time soon. And I mean within the next decade.
Or I suppose they can merely shrug it off and accept the higher death rate of their grandmas and grandpas just so we can continue to share stories about the dud from Thermae we wasted 2,500 baht on last week. You know, when they allowed 12 girls in at a time, requiring them to stand a metre apart and we were allowed through the door one at a time every 1 minute to cruise around in a circle once and whisper the negotiations through a mask too far from the girl to be heard anyway.
Regarding the 7-11 sandwiches, I re-read the Thermae report. I mis-wrote. They were not 7-11 sandwiches. They were Subway sandwiches. The total bill was around 400 Baht for two persons. I do not think that is cheap as in 17.50 Baht. Even though they are hookers, I treat them as my guests. So I would never buy them 7-11 sandwiches.
I figure if he has me on "Ignore", it is because he doesn't want me to read or respond directly to his posts, so I have no problem honoring that wish. But if another member quotes something of his and comments on it, then that is a topic open for discussion even by those on someone's "Ignore" list.
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05-24-20 14:02 #48002
Posts: 624Originally Posted by BamBoomBam [View Original Post]
And this happens first time around usually with me, next time everyone mind their business, they know I am not gonna fall for their shit like some tourist. I think for stressful part for some is, that they start to think that girla are judging them. Well who gives a fuck. Next time if you get a chance to go in some gogo anywhere in Thailand, just enjoy the hell out and ignore anyone trying you to spend more than you want.
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05-24-20 09:26 #48001
Posts: 73Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
Then after giving up on the girls, I visited almost every single gogo bar in LK Metro. There was very little pressure for lady's drinks and I was happy to buy one or two here and there. I realized this was more fun and less stressful than actually getting a girl. I did not like the Walking Street agogos. Almost everywhere it was "You barfine me! You lady drink me! You tip me!" The only place that was benign was Baccara.
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05-24-20 08:37 #48000
Posts: 73Originally Posted by BananaBoi [View Original Post]
I do not have an accent, not a funny one, if that's what you mean. And there were plenty of those in the LK Metro area.
Somehow, I got the impression it's more freelancer oriented in Bangkok and more barfine oriented in Pattaya. But maybe I am mistaken.
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05-24-20 07:43 #47999
Posts: 411Originally Posted by BamBoomBam [View Original Post]
1. Number 1.
2. C number 1.
I'm not talking about the Free immigration girls, bank tellers, office managers, etc that so many here get.
The kind that will make you breakfast.
The kind that don't care you are 70 and they are 30. It's just a number.
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05-24-20 07:38 #47998
Posts: 73Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
I do not believe there ever will be a Post-Covid-19 phase. I believe the virus is here to stay for the long term. With the safety measures in place, it may be contained but most likely not eradicated considering the high number of asymptomatic cases. I believe the implementation of the social distancing rules will not make it viable for Nana Plaza to re-open in the near future. But that is just my opinion.
Regarding the 7-11 sandwiches, I re-read the Thermae report. I mis-wrote. They were not 7-11 sandwiches. They were Subway sandwiches. The total bill was around 400 Baht for two persons. I do not think that is cheap as in 17.50 Baht. Even though they are hookers, I treat them as my guests. So I would never buy them 7-11 sandwiches.
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05-24-20 06:56 #47997
Posts: 73Originally Posted by Crocodilexp [View Original Post]
I am not saying that they have to give up the session just because I asked the magic question. But I am saying that they should let me know if I ask and allow me to decide because I do not want to end up with a bloody condom and bloody bed-sheets, which is a major turn-off. Just like you said, they already know that customers do not like menstruation.
If you rent a car and the engine blows after five minutes when you were very gentle with the gas pedal, is it your fault?
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05-24-20 05:56 #47996
Posts: 73Originally Posted by Paolo99 [View Original Post]
Also, you make a very good point about communication. I probably should avoid girls that do not speak English next time, although I do not believe there ever will be a next time. At least not as we know it.
Nevertheless, I appreciate your input.
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05-24-20 03:22 #47995
Posts: 5497Originally Posted by BananaBoi [View Original Post]
For example, it has been posted that go-go girls are the least likely to agree to bb or give a BBBJ+CIM compared to other options. They are certainly presumed to give the least accomplished ones. And I think the idea is they are less likely to be agreeable to those things or do a good job of it because they are typically younger, in better shape, don't need to give so much for the money, in a hurry to get back to the bar and so on. But, I have to say none of that has been my experience with go-go girls vs FLs on the street, in Thermae, massage shop girls, whatever.
My experience with go-go girls, more generally from Nana Plaza than Soi Cowboy, has been they are among the best sex providers of all the options. And, frankly, the younger, fitter and cuter they are, the better they have been for me. I am not talking about the very top tier looking girls in a go-go bar (or in any venue, for that matter). I am talking about among the top, say, 25% in the room, preferably the second tier best lookers. If anything, the older and slightly less fit the go-go girl is who approaches me, the bigger bet I would make this one wouldn't agree to anything I need tonight. By contrast, the younger, fitter and cuter they are almost always means they are up for it.
And if that means I pay an additional 1,500 baht for a barfine and a drink or two to get that squared away and agreed upon before we even walk out of the bar, I'm fine with that. I can't tell you how many times I've wasted much more than 1,500 baht on the kind of stuff BamBoomBam had thrown in his lap trying to avoid the barfine and drinks route,if that was his reason. And more than that with those silly Thermae girls.
But it would be interesting to hear what BamBoomBam's reasons were for avoiding the go-go bars in the areas he visited.
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05-24-20 02:37 #47994
Posts: 6342Excluding Thai bars which you did not attend, every single girl except maybe a handful I met in Thailand speaks English. Pretty low odds given I've likely spoken to 1000s and 1000s of girls. How in the world did you manage to get 3 Thai girls who needed to use Google translate? Do you have an accent and it's the girls who don't understand you? I've seen that happen before. I've only had to ever use Google translate with one single girl in Thailand and that's because she just turned of age and it was her first ever night working. Even now 5 years later working in various Walking Street gogo bars her English is awful so it's just her inability to learn English.
ET, I'm guessing he skipped Cowboy and Nana because he didn't want to pay barfines or buy lady drinks.
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05-24-20 02:03 #47993
Posts: 1233Originally Posted by BamBoomBam [View Original Post]
As for menstruation, no way to avoid. They usually know they have it, and know no customer would like that (apart from maybe 1% with a crazy fetish), but still chose to work. Usually they take precautions like shoving a sponge out there or hoping it won't get too messy, this sometimes works, sometimes fails. Given that they're out working anyway, why would they choose to give up the session just because you remembered to ask the magic question of whether they have menstruation?