Bangkok Reports

[Beijing4987]

If you're so concerned about HIV maybe you should consider not doing BBFS. For me it's not me I worry about but I'll be damned if I pass HIV to my real life GF.

I have not heard one single ISG member get HIV in any of the Asian countries or Germany where BBFS is readily available so chances must be low. BBFS away!

As Alfred E. Newman said:" What, me worry".

He must have washed his hands a lot.

[Mens2]

So last week I did had a date with a Filipina freelancer working in BKK.

Short BBJ, Fuck with condom.

She could take it like a champ.

Real GFE, but not very open minded.

Did cum on her face, 1.5 K.

I hope soon the BJ bars will open again.

[Franciscass]

I have not heard one single ISG member get HIV in any of the Asian countries or Germany where BBFS is readily available so chances must be low. BBFS away!

Not something I imagine one would want to make public.

[Banana Boi]

Can someone ask their HIV expert to dial in the reported number of HIV infections in Asia? Just like the anti-terrorist has to be right each time, so does the BBFS monger.

If you're so concerned about HIV maybe you should consider not doing BBFS. For me it's not me I worry about but I'll be damned if I pass HIV to my real life GF.

I have not heard one single ISG member get HIV in any of the Asian countries or Germany where BBFS is readily available so chances must be low. BBFS away!

[EihTooms]

Can someone ask their HIV expert to dial in the reported number of HIV infections in Asia? Just like the anti-terrorist has to be right each time, so does the BBFS monger.

Based on that premise, would it make any difference to you if the number of women in Asia with HIV was 100 Million or 1? You might meet that 1 at the arrival area of the airport, invite her to dinner and unkowingly walk into certain death before midnight, right?

Of course, it could just as well be 1 in Europe or 1 in the Americas and you getting it wrong that one time would produce the same result. Never 100% safe.

[SinfullyKorean]

I actually have a different viewpoint albeit my very limited experience. I think BBBJ is more likely in a gogo or a beer bar. Both Pattaya girls gave me BBBJ. The Thermae girl did not. In fact, the second day in Bangkok, I returned to Thermae and talked to about half a dozen girls. (I realize it's not exact science.) They all said no to BBBJ. One said she will do CBJ. Then I left. I will never go to Thermae again. I might just go there for a beer and to observe the talent. But to me, many of them look extremely arrogant. But then again, I'm not so sure Thermae will re-open any time in the near future either. I guess it's no loss for the most of us here.

Then after giving up on the girls, I visited almost every single gogo bar in LK Metro. There was very little pressure for lady's drinks and I was happy to buy one or two here and there. I realized this was more fun and less stressful than actually getting a girl. I did not like the Walking Street agogos. Almost everywhere it was "You barfine me! You lady drink me! You tip me!" The only place that was benign was Baccara.

I've been to Thailand 3 times now. While that doesn't make me an expert by any means, I am a bit familiar with the area. I've been to Phuket, BKK, and Pattaya on my 3 visits.

I feel like the gogo bars and the girls there run a lot more scams. They try to make the customers pay the full LT amount plus bar fine at the bar. I've run into this in many bars in BKK (Cowboy and Nana). I just got sick of this and went to Thermae Cafe. Most of the HOT girls there don't want LT. They just want short time because they know they can be in and out in about an HR and move on to the next monger. But if you're not looking for mindblowing, nympho sex (that you probably wouldn't get from gogo bars anyways), I feel like Thermae Cafe was much better. They don't have bar fines and you can feel them up with a couple drinks before taking them upstairs or to your hotel. I had several good experiences from Thermae Cafe, but I didn't have high expectations. I just wanted a young, model-esque thai girl to bang and was happy with what I got.

I had a great time in Pattaya, too. Most of my fun was had in soi 6. Walking street in Pattaya reeked of the same scams or were heavily overpriced (9000+ baht for LT). In soi 6, there were a lot more chicks for more reasonable prices. (sub 6000 baht). Bars were really fun, too. I mopped the floor with the ladies (including mama-san) in some of these bars in connect 4.

But yea, I find the prices driving up is making the trip out to Thailand and my retirement plans (currently 40) over there less and less appealing. I'll still make a few trips out there in my lifetime. It's just not what it used to be, as far as I've read). I might stick to Mexico for a while.

[CzarNicholas]

Which did he think was written as a guide for local politicians? The CDC numbers for Covid-19, the CDC numbers for the statistical risk for HIV transmission through sex, or my post about them on this site? 😁.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...scenarios.html

[Beijing4987]

Can someone ask their HIV expert to dial in the reported number of HIV infections in Asia? Just like the anti-terrorist has to be right each time, so does the BBFS monger.

[EihTooms]

I emailed it to my physician which is an HIV expert, and he said this was written as a guide for local politicians, not for mongers LMAO.

Which did he think was written as a guide for local politicians? The CDC numbers for Covid-19, the CDC numbers for the statistical risk for HIV transmission through sex, or my post about them on this site? 😁.

[CzarNicholas]

Some comforting numbers in there. If they hold up against more testing and case studies going forward.

I just wish I could show my newly met Thai P4P girls the CDC numbers on the high improbability of them acquiring HIV via uncovered Oral Sex or uncovered Vaginal Sex from any man they are likely to meet on the job, much less the near impossibility of acquiring it from a fairly easy to determine heterosexual and non needle-sharing man with a current Negative HIV blood check document to show them and count on that to quickly eliminate their still stated fears about it enough to happily say Yes to both with no further discussion on the topic. 40+ years into it.

I emailed it to my physician which is an HIV expert, and he said this was written as a guide for local politicians, not for mongers LMAO.

[Turgid]

..................I would bet very few people gave the Spanish Flu a moment's thought in 1958, 40 years after it killed millions and faded away. But not so with HIV. ............

Interesting that you mentioned the year 1958; at that time the whole world might have been thinking of the Spanish flu as that was the year of the Asian flu that killed 1 million people. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1957%E...uenza_pandemic.

You speak of AIDS that has been with us for 40 years but what about the small pox virus that afflicted the world for 3000 years? Lets hope that covid 19 is not here for such a length of time but is here for the same period as other similar viruses of the influenza variety.

[EihTooms]

Do any of you guys know that the CDC just released new IFR numbers?

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...scenarios.html

I'll let you guys argue amongst yourselves regarding what they mean but I can see what those numbers say.

Covid will soon be a memory.

Some comforting numbers in there. If they hold up against more testing and case studies going forward.

I just wish I could show my newly met Thai P4P girls the CDC numbers on the high improbability of them acquiring HIV via uncovered Oral Sex or uncovered Vaginal Sex from any man they are likely to meet on the job, much less the near impossibility of acquiring it from a fairly easy to determine heterosexual and non needle-sharing man with a current Negative HIV blood check document to show them and count on that to quickly eliminate their still stated fears about it enough to happily say Yes to both with no further discussion on the topic. 40+ years into it.

[Admin2]

Do any of you guys know that the CDC just released new IFR numbers?

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...scenarios.html

I'll let you guys argue amongst yourselves regarding what they mean but I can see what those numbers say.

Covid will soon be a memory.

[EihTooms]

All viruses have a life span. The 1918 Spanish flu pandemic killed around 50 million people worldwide and lasted for around 18 months. All the flu pandemics after that lasted for a similar period. My intention was to spend 2021 in Thailand, I'm putting it back one year so its 2022 when I believe this pandemic will be just a memory and things will be as they were before.

Again, I hope these kind of assessments are correct. However, HIV has survived quite well for 40+ years with no indication that it is limping along on its last leg and ready to fade away on its own any minute now. It has been controlled by the use of drugs and tolerable adjustments in behavior, but not eradicated.

Luckily, HIV is not an airborne virus. One has to take unusual measures and line up a set of fairly special conditions to both get it and transmit it. Not so with Covid-19, which also only superficially behaves like the flu. We are still discovering longer term issues with having acquired it, long after the typical 2 week recovery period is over. And more potential problems for young people, even small children exposed to it than previously thought.

We did not have jumbo jet airliners in 1918. The ability for a dangerous airborne virus with a weeks long infectious incubation period where no symptoms are evident (unlike the flu virus) to move from country to country, continually recirculating and resurfacing in cluster groups of people who can then pass it on to the next group by simply talking or breathing next to them is different.

And that poses uniquely complicated problems for activities that rely on groups of global travelers crowding in a room on a nightly basis to shatter Social Distancing recommendations in every possible way short of getting naked and kissing and licking each other on the spot. Mostly.

And that very thing is the end game for such a business model anyway except members of the group usually pair off to do that in a nearby room that I am pretty sure won't be fully sanitized, sheets, towels, door knobs and all every 2 hours. And then one or both of those extreme Distance violators will be returning to the bar for more interacting and pairing off.

How will the lingering fears and worries about Covid-19 effect P4P and for how long even after it is somewhat under control? Well, if the HIV era is any example, it has been 40+ years, it is or should be very well known by now that non anal sex transmission is rare, made extremely rare if not virtually impossible if dealt with by easily available modern drugs. Yet 40+ years later not a week goes by where it is not mentioned or alluded to in some form or fashion in my mongering experience and where some activity or another is refused or nearly so from worry and concern about it.

And need we be reminded that condom or no condom has zero pertinence in this matter? I would bet very few people gave the Spanish Flu a moment's thought in 1958, 40 years after it killed millions and faded away. But not so with HIV.

This lockdown and all the hassles with checking for fevers, staying indoors, business closures, etc is unlike anything people today have experienced before, including when HIV first hit the scene. It is bound to be leaving a lasting impression on current and future sweet young things' minds.

[The Cane]

All viruses have a life span. The 1918 Spanish flu pandemic killed around 50 million people worldwide and lasted for around 18 months. All the flu pandemics after that lasted for a similar period. My intention was to spend 2021 in Thailand, I'm putting it back one year so its 2022 when I believe this pandemic will be just a memory and things will be as they were before.

I'm hoping that I can at least travel domestically from mid-2021 onward. I too am prepared to wait until 2022 for overseas travel. Seems like a long time, but for the first time in years, I wasn't planning to do any overseas travel in 2020 anyway. So, not too much disappointment here. This is a great time to "recalibrate" and set our financial houses in order for future trips.