FKK Sharks - Darmstadt

[Sirioja]

Well, GT Vienna will reopen on July 1st. So unless the other venues are quick now, I suppose most of the ISG crowd will hit that club first. Even if some has to drive 1000 km. And we know who those are.

Globe and many Swiss clubs should open before GT Vienna. Openings start on next Saturday. I won't be at GT Vienna on 1 July, but I plan to discover later on Summer, I like discovery and good test for skill. Also Wellcum and Andiamo when I miss Marina.

[Pistons]

And I am guessing since GT Vienna is the first among the heavy hitters to reopen, the lineup will be even better than normal.

[Pistons]

Well, GT Vienna will reopen on July 1st. So unless the other venues are quick now, I suppose most of the ISG crowd will hit that club first. Even if some has to drive 1000 km. And we know who those are.

[Sirioja]

So does that means if someone got infected in FKK, then they will test everyone who was there in a particular 3-5 days, and test their families? Then wife's will know that she was tested because her husband went to the FKK!! In this scenario, this is a blow for all married mongers.

To be able for such research, they need to take everybody ID, address, phone, mail, maybe what clubs will do when reopening, let s see in Switzerland on next Saturday how they control entry. Yes, many married men in brothels as tell me girls who are very surprised I m not married, looking at fingers, and when I answer: If I was in couple, I would prefer to take care of her. Yes, will be risk to catch and bring the killer gift at home.

[McAdonis]

So does that means if someone got infected in FKK, then they will test everyone who was there in a particular 3-5 days, and test their families? Then wife's will know that she was tested because her husband went to the FKK!! In this scenario, this is a blow for all married mongers.

I think the answer depends on when the FKK clubs open and what the levels of enforcement for contact tracing will be at that time. Until things cool down with the level-of-enforcement on contact tracing, my prediction is the demand-side will see a big drop, because married locals will engage in P6 much less.

In Frankfurt area restaurants, the waiter asks all dine-in-guests for their name and contact details. They can ask for identity card, but they are not allowed to make copies. This article makes it seem like most waiters are currently lax about this requirement. They simply trust that the customers will not provide false contact details. But what happens if there is an outbreak? Will the authorities fine the restaurant if all the names on record are "Seymour Butts"? I suspect brothel operators will be held to a different standard. If their record-keeping is not accurate, the penalties will be much more harsh. https://www.fr.de/frankfurt/frankfur...-13778845.html.

Married monger and even some single mongers will be reluctant to give their names, so maybe more of the P6 scene shifts to privates or sugarbabes. If the P6 scene shifts to privates, there are four major logistical options (1) incall at WG hotel, (2) incall at WG flat, (3) outcall at monger hotel, and (4) outcall at monger flat.

Married locals would avoid option four for obvious reasons. Option three is risky because the hotel is under his name. Option one seems low risk, however I could see some potential issues that might drive up prices. If WG has 5 men walking to her room each day, it will be quite obvious she is a WG. The hotel operator is not going to want the publicity of an outbreak occurring at their hotel. So will the hotel call the police and report the WG? Will the hotel blacklist the WG? Will the police fine the monger for seeing a WG outside of a regulated brothel? That leaves seeing a WG at her private flat as really the only safe option for the married monger.

If hotels become primary venue for P6 scene then I have some questions about hotel visitor policies. At most hotels pre-CV19, both the registered guest and visitors could freely walk to elevator without being stopped. Would contact details be taken post-CV19 for the reasons of contact tracing? Or would they just treat you like a shopper at a supermarket, who walks in and out anonymously? Whether as a registered guest or as a visitor, many people had no problems leaving their contact details. That is how married people had affairs or engaged in P6. But if contact-tracing sticks around, it introduces a risk for married people, on the remote chance an outbreak occurs at the hotel.

[Sirioja]

I would have difficulty becoming hard with her, or lose it very quickly even if sh gave a mean bb as you say. Good for you that you are more open minded.

FS is not my thing w / FKK girls. A few sugar babes yes, but never with a tute that fucks ten different guys a day. If she is giving me bareback, she is giving to others as well. Different strokes I suppose.

I admire her stamina and how she never give up, kind of pitbull with a bone, but I don t want she touch me. I hate when GND touch me, I enjoy only with princesses beauties.

[Pessimist]

Actually twice. Not really into the old stuff but after seeing her over the years, I finally hit her 2 years ago. She came up and started talking to me and was aggressive as usual.

I asked her for BBFS jokingly and she agreed. She had nice breasts and a clit piercing which I like. 100 E for the 1st session 50 $ for a second session.

Been in the FKK scene every year since 2004 right after collage so I'm used to the 50 Euro BBBJ + FS pricing still and I usually get it with little effort or a little talking. 1/5 times they'd demand 100 and I'll tell them 70 plus tip. If they aren't great I don't tip. Most girls will still work for 50 (some clubs outside the big 5 are even cheaper at 30), as long as you don't make a big deal about it and announce it openly that 50 is all your paying. If you do it in front of her and her friends, she'll throw up her arms in insult and your done.

Second time I was with her was 6 months ago. I tried asking her for the same thing but I think she played stupid or pretended to not understand me. Wanted to give it another try, but we started with the sex and she wouldn't let me stick it in her more than 50%, so I got pissed. Threw her off me, paid her in the room and walked out. I didn't want the other girls to see me with her at the lock boxes.

She does give a mean bb, so there's that.

I would have difficulty becoming hard with her, or lose it very quickly even if sh gave a mean bb as you say. Good for you that you are more open minded.

FS is not my thing w / FKK girls. A few sugar babes yes, but never with a tute that fucks ten different guys a day. If she is giving me bareback, she is giving to others as well. Different strokes I suppose.

[Tuber19]

There was recently reports of a outbreak in Goettingen, suspected to be linked to an illegal private celebration at a shisha bar. So far 35 infections, but 170 first degree contacts were ordered to take a test and more than 300 people have been identified for tests. This is a different province than where the FKK clubs are located but it might offer some insight into how invasive the contact-tracing will be in the future: https://www.ndr.de/nachrichten/niede...ontaktpersonen, corona3282. Html.

So does that means if someone got infected in FKK, then they will test everyone who was there in a particular 3-5 days, and test their families? Then wife's will know that she was tested because her husband went to the FKK!! In this scenario, this is a blow for all married mongers.

[McAdonis]

Based on past experience, 150 EUR per 60 min, seems to be about the starting point for most WGs. If attractive and anchored at this price point, they could be quite high demand during peak hours. That means she can be hard to reach by phone. And if you do reach her by phone, and tell her "I can be at your location in 30 minutes", there is a chance she could take another customer on a first-come, first-serve basis. Which means you might have to sit outside in a square and fiddle with your phone for 30-90 minutes and see if she cancels.

This observation is based on past market conditions, pre-CV-19. No idea how busy the WGs are now. Sex-tourists aren't allowed in DE. And it has been suggested before that a high percentage of local customers are married. I would imagine the percentage of married mongers would be even higher amongst privates, since privates offer more discretion than an FKK club that is out in the open. And if married mongers comprise a high percentage of the customer segment, than I imagine many would back off at least temporarily due to the pandemic. Not only for health risks it might pose to their families, but perhaps also due to social risks. If an outbreak occurs and contact traces link them to a WG, that could have disastrous consequences for their personal or maybe even professional lives.

There was recently reports of a outbreak in Goettingen, suspected to be linked to an illegal private celebration at a shisha bar. So far 35 infections, but 170 first degree contacts were ordered to take a test and more than 300 people have been identified for tests. This is a different province than where the FKK clubs are located but it might offer some insight into how invasive the contact-tracing will be in the future: https://www.ndr.de/nachrichten/niede...ontaktpersonen, corona3282. Html.

[BackpackBrian]

Incidentally has anyone given her a try?

Actually twice. Not really into the old stuff but after seeing her over the years, I finally hit her 2 years ago. She came up and started talking to me and was aggressive as usual.

I asked her for BBFS jokingly and she agreed. She had nice breasts and a clit piercing which I like. 100 E for the 1st session 50 $ for a second session.

Been in the FKK scene every year since 2004 right after collage so I'm used to the 50 Euro BBBJ + FS pricing still and I usually get it with little effort or a little talking. 1/5 times they'd demand 100 and I'll tell them 70 plus tip. If they aren't great I don't tip. Most girls will still work for 50 (some clubs outside the big 5 are even cheaper at 30), as long as you don't make a big deal about it and announce it openly that 50 is all your paying. If you do it in front of her and her friends, she'll throw up her arms in insult and your done.

Second time I was with her was 6 months ago. I tried asking her for the same thing but I think she played stupid or pretended to not understand me. Wanted to give it another try, but we started with the sex and she wouldn't let me stick it in her more than 50%, so I got pissed. Threw her off me, paid her in the room and walked out. I didn't want the other girls to see me with her at the lock boxes.

She does give a mean bb, so there's that.

[Sirioja]

Well, presumably her permanent living place is Romania and she / other WGs in similar situation live in DE just to make a living. They do return to Romania frequently throughout the year as we all know. DE is where they make a living, Romania is where they like to live / spend the money (and it goes a bit farther in Romania).

Reasons to stay back in DE: as the other gentleman said, she expected the lockdown was going to be temporary (b) she waited till the last minute and was stuck due to lack of transportation / fear of being put in quarantine in Rom upon return for 2 or more weeks (c) thought she could make some money on the side even during the lockdown by remaining in DE (d) has a BF / pimp / other reasons to like living in DE and not return to Rom despite the fact that her earnings are less during the lockdown and her expenses would be higher in DE than in ROm (c) she is crazy and did not calculate well.

I don't know about her private life, but when she was at Sharks until closing, if she wanted to return to Romania on 17 or 18 March, she would not have problems and a bit of money would have paid quarantine on border. Maybe she has interest in Germany where she works since around 6 years. Some Romanians stayed in Switzerland which is much more expensive than Romania, there is always a reason, like there is always a solution in mathematics, just have to be able to find.

[LeyenLouvain]

On top of that I went also many times to prostitutes but fortunately I was able to quit and I wish all of you to be able to do the same.

It would be good to hear more, did you find some kind of sugar baby arrangement?

[Sirioja]

What I was told by my German model type 1,77 escort is Kaufmich rate is 200/60, 350/120 for beauties, 100/150/60 for others. She was a wow beauty, extreme GFE beyond limits of this job, lost in life under pimping management putting pressure on her, they did hate me when they understood after she cancelled so many meetings because she preferred to stay with me, telling she was sick, she really needed affection. Because I discovered her in a club, I was informed by a guy at GT who asked me and paid me and Melissa. De to see me performing my foreplay. Of course I refused but he knew Melissa and asked her to tell me to accept. Thanks to his information, I always paid 50/30 with her, usually 300 for between 4 and 5 hours, I paid only for time for sex, weekly for 3 months, incredible potential and stamina in bed, higher than Pia. De GT for me and of course much more fresh pretty. She didn't want to work at GT, like some other Germans. Should be slow business for escorts since mid March.

[Pessimist]

And why would she be on Romania and not in Germany?

Well, presumably her permanent living place is Romania and she / other WGs in similar situation live in DE just to make a living. They do return to Romania frequently throughout the year as we all know. DE is where they make a living, Romania is where they like to live / spend the money (and it goes a bit farther in Romania).

Reasons to stay back in DE: as the other gentleman said, she expected the lockdown was going to be temporary (b) she waited till the last minute and was stuck due to lack of transportation / fear of being put in quarantine in Rom upon return for 2 or more weeks (c) thought she could make some money on the side even during the lockdown by remaining in DE (d) has a BF / pimp / other reasons to like living in DE and not return to Rom despite the fact that her earnings are less during the lockdown and her expenses would be higher in DE than in ROm (c) she is crazy and did not calculate well.

[Sirioja]

Thirty nine, hell, she must be hoping for a number of customers with very poor eye sight.

Always a regular at Sharks but I do admire her persistence especially as she gets knocked back so many times.

Incidentally has anyone given her a try?

When she takes a guy to a room I've often noticed it isn't long before she is back at the money boxes with the guy collecting her fee.

Sylvana Donatella is just exceptional for resistance, real marathon woman hunting upstairs close to jacuzzis, around the bar, from 11 am to late night, moving to Samya, GT. When girls left GT because of virus, she was back, virus can t do anything versus plastic. As I explained to one, when You get older, You can get higher resistance to intense efforts and accept more pain. No other girl can compete for stamina and strength with her.