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  1. #30400
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilolo  [View Original Post]
    But you even don't need to ask the girl before that you want fuck her bareback. Usually if you re nice, treat them good, they don t ask you to put condoms.

    And sometimes and it s very funny, but you already fuck them bareback and during the act, the lady just say "you don t want put condom?" LOL.

    And you just answer you don t like because you re not horny with condoms and they let you fuck them bareback!

    You know girls don t care now to use condoms!

    But they care to use a mask because of Covid 19? LOL.

    And I remember before each time I used thai condoms, the condom was broken after use.

    I fucked so many sexy ladies in SOI 6 in bars Wicked, Jungle bar, Avarice, where Angels play, Sex in the city and in gogos in soi LK.

    And I don t speak about the girls in Bangkok and Phnom Penh.
    "And sometimes and it s very funny, but you already fuck them bareback and during the act, the lady just say "you don t want put condom?" LOL.

    And you just answer you don t like because you re not horny with condoms and they let you fuck them bareback!"
    ...

    Yep, that would already be 100% more conversation in the room and in my bed about condoms than I am interested in having anymore with any ladies.

    To me, it would be well worth 500-1000 baht more in an upfront negotiation to avoid even that much of a conversation about condoms in the room even if not negotiating anything at all upfront meant the girl would accept 700 baht for ST! LOL.

    Your record of success in getting BBFS+CIM is much, much higher than mine. I assure you I am nice to every girl I take. But many ladies I have chosen have gasped in shock, stopped everything cold, put their hand over their pussy, closed their legs or wiggled away in retreat as far along as at the very moment of penetration after an otherwise lovely, happy and fun time together leading right up to it.

    And then they have refused to change their mind for any amount of additional money. Well, I've never offered as much as 5,000 baht more or anything like that.

    That includes many girls I have chosen in Pattaya over the years.

    But, by far, most of my mongering in Thailand is in Bangkok. And, frankly, I think I can count on just the fingers and not the thumb of one hand the number of girls in Pattaya I see and engage with on a typical trip there that I would be inspired to go through any hassle at all to fuck for more than 700 baht as it is. So I am probably passing up dozens of offers each day I spend in Pattaya that would no doubt lead to a no conversation BBFS+CIP.

  2. #30399
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Yes, I realize a "go with the flow in the room" approach can often turn out to be a BBFS+CIP session. I don't know about "all" girls agreeing to it at crunch time with or without an offer of extra money. I certainly have had plenty of girls still say No to it in the room at any price and mean it.

    However, I am generally trying to achieve a certain result that is quite different from what I typically read here regarding getting a BBFS+CIP session with a girl, paid or free, and it does not fit a "go with the flow in the room" approach.
    But you even don't need to ask the girl before that you want fuck her bareback. Usually if you re nice, treat them good, they don t ask you to put condoms.

    And sometimes and it s very funny, but you already fuck them bareback and during the act, the lady just say "you don t want put condom?" LOL.

    And you just answer you don t like because you re not horny with condoms and they let you fuck them bareback!

    You know girls don t care now to use condoms!

    But they care to use a mask because of Covid 19? LOL.

    And I remember before each time I used thai condoms, the condom was broken after use.

    I fucked so many sexy ladies in SOI 6 in bars Wicked, Jungle bar, Avarice, where Angels play, Sex in the city and in gogos in soi LK.

    And I don t speak about the girls in Bangkok and Phnom Penh.

  3. #30398
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilolo  [View Original Post]
    Don't worry! All the men fuck ladies bareback now in Bangkok, Pattaya or PP. Even girls don't ask condoms anymore! And when they ask us to put condoms, it's just because they want more money! I remember a very sexy girl in soi 6 in bar Angels play, she asked me before we go room if I've condoms! I said NO! And she told me she had condoms! And after shower and many kisses, and after I lick her pussy long time! I put my dick directly inside her pussy and she told me I can fuck her without condom but I must give her 500 more! I said OK and I come inside her pussy!
    Yes, I realize a "go with the flow in the room" approach can often turn out to be a BBFS+CIP session. I don't know about "all" girls agreeing to it at crunch time with or without an offer of extra money. I certainly have had plenty of girls still say No to it in the room at any price and mean it.

    However, I am generally trying to achieve a certain result that is quite different from what I typically read here regarding getting a BBFS+CIP session with a girl, paid or free, and it does not fit a "go with the flow in the room" approach.

    See, my usual goal is to secure an upfront agreement from the girl to provide it to me before we walk away together toward my room, even before we meet in person in the case of a dating site or online first encounter.

    What I am trying to avoid and am willing to pay extra to avoid is more than merely avoiding wearing a condom (a no go for sex with me). I am actually trying to avoid any further discussion about it in the room or at crunch time no matter how brief, fleeting, non confrontational and eventually agreeble to it that brief discussion at crunch time might turn out to be.

    I don't even want to hear the word "condom" uttered in the room. I want all of that settled outside or online before we take a single step toward my room together.

    That adds a spin to the mission that I don't think many other punters attempt. And good for them for not requiring it.

  4. #30397
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilolo  [View Original Post]
    Don't worry! All the men fuck ladies bareback now in Bangkok, Pattaya or PP. Even girls don't ask condoms anymore! And when they ask us to put condoms, it's just because they want more money! I remember a very sexy girl in soi 6 in bar Angels play, she asked me before we go room if I've condoms! I said NO! And she told me she had condoms! And after shower and many kisses, and after I lick her pussy long time! I put my dick directly inside her pussy and she told me I can fuck her without condom but I must give her 500 more! I said OK and I come inside her pussy!
    Ah yes I remember! This is the one I fucked just before you. I had a warm pee.

  5. #30396
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    You can always put me on your Ignore list and then you can complain about how old, fat, ugly and unskilled the women are in the oilies and massage shops you keep returning to without distraction.
    Don't worry! All the men fuck ladies bareback now in Bangkok, Pattaya or PP. Even girls don't ask condoms anymore! And when they ask us to put condoms, it's just because they want more money! I remember a very sexy girl in soi 6 in bar Angels play, she asked me before we go room if I've condoms! I said NO! And she told me she had condoms! And after shower and many kisses, and after I lick her pussy long time! I put my dick directly inside her pussy and she told me I can fuck her without condom but I must give her 500 more! I said OK and I come inside her pussy!

  6. #30395
    Quote Originally Posted by JavaMan  [View Original Post]
    At 8p, the police showed up in force at Tree Town. Four pickups full of police and a couple on motos. They shut down Soul City and left. I was expecting more. They went around and closed other venues last night. Beer Hub was closed over social distancing, according to rumor.

    https://thepattayanews.com/2020/06/1...icense-or-not/

    I did Not.
    Like I said I wouldn't hold my breath this seems a bit standard to me to note just my opinion. I called it show and tell this is what this government is all about and it so calls leaders in town and the province of Chon Buri. It won't continue for very long they are true to their M. O. In the beginning but never there in the end. Just like their own law about riding in the back of a pickup truck.

    You got groups foreigners who like to push the envelope where it is clearly noted you got to be a restaurant first then you can serve liquor. Then you take a place like Beer Hub who has the license for the restaurant but not know to serve food has his paperwork in place but violating social distancing? Look around you got to laugh. I think there was a Youtube video of the manager walking around filming why was he closed when all this other stuff was happening maybe because he is associated with the Nightwish group although their leader has some influence he has also made a lot of distractors. The BIB pick and chose their targets for a reason.

  7. #30394
    Quote Originally Posted by JavaMan  [View Original Post]

    I did Not.
    Excuse me if I meddle with something that doesn't concern me but there was also another interesting question asked by Allover: "Were they fighting over you? I am also interested in the answer.

    Quote Originally Posted by MonkeyPaw  [View Original Post]
    Did you see the girls fight?

  8. #30393

    500 Baht fucks

    I feel it comes down to the situation the girl finds herself in at any given time, that is how badly she needs money and also how easy it for her to get tricks.

    If because of her looks and age she gets very little action needs money she will go for 500 baht. Why go home empty handed especially if the "John' seems convivial and maybe offers to take her for a meal first. Also possible she could be a little horny.

    On the other hand a good looking girl who can get easily 2 k plus because she checks all the boxes is extremely unlikely to fuck for 500. Not saying it hasn't ever happened and will be more likely where the John is familiar with the local situation but in my experience over 20 years here the old adage applies most of the time you get what you pay for.

  9. #30392
    Quote Originally Posted by Pimpampoumpipo  [View Original Post]
    The subject of the tariff of girls in Pattaya (and elsewhere) regularly agitates the threads. It's a recurring topic. There are exactly the same debates on a French speaking monger website. The supporters tear each other apart in the same way and at the same prices as on ISG.

    I think everyone is a little right.

    Depending on whether we look like young Justin Bieber or an old geezer like me, we won't necessarily pay the same price. I made some gogos bars with a young Japanese a few months ago and I assure you that all the girls were absolutely crazy about him and they showed to him. Negotiating a young girl from the Sapphyr or the Palace at 500 baht for him I think it's quite possible. It is completely impossible for me.

    Conversely, I too could find a junkie or a big ugly at 500 Baths on Beach road. But I won't either.

    As far as I'm concerned the truth is in between. For my part I pay between minimum 1200 baths + tip for an ST in massage shop and 2000/2500 baths for an LT (which I do very rarely), never more (or only exceptionally). This is my price list. The compromise that I found between the range of girls that I like and the prices that I am ready to pay in Pattaya. But I also don't try to really negotiate unless the price seems unreasonable..
    I totally agree with you. I never found girls less 1000. I'm 38 and good looking. But usually I pay girls between 1000 to maximum 3000. And I do always BBFS + CIP.

  10. #30391
    Quote Originally Posted by LittleBigMan  [View Original Post]
    Don't hold your breath just like don't hold your breath Walking Street will be gone.
    At 8p, the police showed up in force at Tree Town. Four pickups full of police and a couple on motos. They shut down Soul City and left. I was expecting more. They went around and closed other venues last night. Beer Hub was closed over social distancing, according to rumor.

    https://thepattayanews.com/2020/06/1...icense-or-not/

    Quote Originally Posted by MonkeyPaw  [View Original Post]
    Did you see the girls fight?
    I did Not.

  11. #30390
    The subject of the tariff of girls in Pattaya (and elsewhere) regularly agitates the threads. It's a recurring topic. There are exactly the same debates on a French speaking monger website. The supporters tear each other apart in the same way and at the same prices as on ISG.

    I think everyone is a little right.

    Depending on whether we look like young Justin Bieber or an old geezer like me, we won't necessarily pay the same price. I made some gogos bars with a young Japanese a few months ago and I assure you that all the girls were absolutely crazy about him and they showed to him. Negotiating a young girl from the Sapphyr or the Palace at 500 baht for him I think it's quite possible. It is completely impossible for me.

    Conversely, I too could find a junkie or a big ugly at 500 Baths on Beach road. But I won't either.

    As far as I'm concerned the truth is in between. For my part I pay between minimum 1200 baths + tip for an ST in massage shop and 2000/2500 baths for an LT (which I do very rarely), never more (or only exceptionally). This is my price list. The compromise that I found between the range of girls that I like and the prices that I am ready to pay in Pattaya. But I also don't try to really negotiate unless the price seems unreasonable.

    The context, the place, the state of mind, what we are looking for at this moment, the "beauty" (eminently subjective parameter) and the age of the monger and that of the girl and even the time, everything that (and undoubtedly others) are parameters that should be known and put into equation to be able to explain the prices. But we rarely know them all when we read them on a thread. I hardly ever give them either. Too subjective.

    But again, I think the fair price is what we are willing to pay.

  12. #30389
    Quote Originally Posted by Gargano19  [View Original Post]
    I'm not interested in your negotiations skills. I didn't ask how you negotiate.

    I'm not interested in what kind of girls you meet. I didn't ask.

    I don't deny you meeting girls for 500 b, because it's possible in Thailand, I've seen it myself.

    I made a point, that you don't post pics of girls you meet for 500 b. And if you're going to keep insisting by writing it about in your every second post, that you're negotiating hottest girls in Thailand to 500 b for ST / LT, and happy to share chats but won't share pics of them. Well you can disagree but your posts are misinformative and misleading. Your point about "they start with 2000b and I negotiate them down to 500" is useless, you're assuming just because she asked 2000b, she is pretty. I don't judge a girl's looks by what they ask, I judge a girl's looks by....their looks.

    I've made my point already, and I refrain from long arguments on internet forums, unless a new argument needs to be made.
    Gargano, my advice to you is that it is futile to argue with someone whose only purpose on this site is to attempt to boost his ego.

  13. #30388

    Missed the point by a mile

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    For the 1,000th time, I have sense enough to negotiate and not pay the given or asking price. That does not mean something is wrong with the girl; that means something is right with me. So yes, if you come here and think a chick is going to tell you 500 baht short time or 1000 baht long time off the bat then that is not true and I have NEVER purported that to be true. What I have said is to negotiate for a better price than the one you are initially given. And I have given countless examples of how it is done, whether it has been with girls or taxis or tailors or souvenirs.
    I'm not interested in your negotiations skills. I didn't ask how you negotiate.

    I'm not interested in what kind of girls you meet. I didn't ask.

    I don't deny you meeting girls for 500 b, because it's possible in Thailand, I've seen it myself.

    I made a point, that you don't post pics of girls you meet for 500 b. And if you're going to keep insisting by writing it about in your every second post, that you're negotiating hottest girls in Thailand to 500 b for ST / LT, and happy to share chats but won't share pics of them. Well you can disagree but your posts are misinformative and misleading. Your point about "they start with 2000b and I negotiate them down to 500" is useless, you're assuming just because she asked 2000b, she is pretty. I don't judge a girl's looks by what they ask, I judge a girl's looks by....their looks.

    I've made my point already, and I refrain from long arguments on internet forums, unless a new argument needs to be made.

  14. #30387
    Quote Originally Posted by LittleBigMan  [View Original Post]
    This type of stuff like last night is usually staged or someone on the BH is on the shit list! The shit list could be a number of things like he is a foreign older not paying his share or the bigger boys who run TreeTown is jealous or just don't like him?

    Phase 4 opening current portion is to allow those with restaurant and liquor license to open. Treetown has both from what I'm hearing as for BeerHub that might not be the case plus they seem to be foreign owned?
    So the problem seems to be that you can only partake in alcohol in a restaurant while you are having a meal! You can not just go into a restaurant for drinks.

    "Pattaya authorities are threatening some establishments with closure unless they meet the criteria for reopening. These include only serving alcohol to customers who are having a meal".

    https://thethaiger.com/news/pattaya/...-closure-video

  15. #30386
    Quote Originally Posted by Gargano19  [View Original Post]
    I have written reports about gogo girls with names / number, agency girls, various massage shop girls, and dating site girls, so that if someone meets them, they know what to expect. I don't write report about nightclub girls because I won't reveal the identity of girl, which makes the information pretty useless, as no one can find her there.
    And where are the pictures of these girls? Pictures that you have taken yourself, not pictures that anyone can copy from a dating site or gogo website and use for a made up report? What to expect? You can not say that another person should expect the same experience as you. Everybody in this hobby knows that YMMV.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gargano19  [View Original Post]
    I don't want to put you on spot or anything. I believe you completely that you're getting girls for 500 b ST. Heck even in Bangkok my DMs on Line / tinder are filled with girls asking 1000 b for ST.

    But for a new monger who might visit Thailand for the first time, your reports are pretty misleading. And you're fine with sharing screenshots of chats to hammer the point that you actually paid 500 b
    My reports are not misleading at all. If you are reading my screenshots then you will know the difference between them and what you are saying. And this is something that I have ALWAYS said whether it has to do with women or shirts or taxis or anything else I have reported about spending money on around this place. AN ASKING PRICE IS NOT THE SAME AS A PAYING PRICE.

    You have stated that your DMs are filled with chicks ASKING 1000 baht. When I post a screenshot it shows what the chick asked AND me talking her down to what I want to pay. Why is it so hard to understand that YOU PAY WHAT YOU NEGOTIATE. If you took the price that you were told and did not negotiate that is on you. But you can not say that because we both walked into Mike's shopping mall and you bought a shirt from a vendor for 400 baht and I walked in later and bought the same type shirt from the same vendor for 200 baht, that something was inferior about my shirt. No. It is beause when you were told 400 baht, that is what you paid. Whereas when I was told 400 baht I said no fucking way; I will give you 200 baht.

    Same way that I have walked into a shop to buy a fake watch. I have watched people that were being served before me buy those watches for 6000 baht because that is the price they were told. I keep my fucking mouth shut. When they leave and it is my turn, I can buy the same watch for 2500 baht because I will negotiate! The shit holds the same when you replace shirts or watches with women. That is the same reason that I walk down Soi 6 and a chick says 1000 baht for me and 300 baht for the room, but I end up paying 700 baht for her and 300 baht for the room. They are not starting off at 700 baht. They are starting off at the same 1000 baht that you were told.

    100 chicks in the gogo all go for 3000 baht. Does that mean all 100 look like Marilyn Monroe? No. Most of those chicks look like Pluto the dog. You can get a pretty chick for 500 baht, or you can get an ugly chick for 3000 baht. What you pay says nothing to how the chick looks. Besides, most of the screenshots that I post the chicks ASK for 2000 baht anyway. So why are you skipping over that? They must look pretty good to ask for 2000 baht right? Or do they not look good at all because I am able to talk them down?

    For the 1,000th time, I have sense enough to negotiate and not pay the given or asking price. That does not mean something is wrong with the girl; that means something is right with me. So yes, if you come here and think a chick is going to tell you 500 baht short time or 1000 baht long time off the bat then that is not true and I have NEVER purported that to be true. What I have said is to negotiate for a better price than the one you are initially given. And I have given countless examples of how it is done, whether it has been with girls or taxis or tailors or souvenirs.

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