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[Naked Gunz]

Certainly he knew this. The girl was actually 24 but she had a mental age of a child and so counted as a minor in the Phils which he wasn't aware of. He also didn't have any sexual intent he had just been asked to clean a wound on her leg apparently. It's an unusual case, and your main point, to be paranoid of any contact with minors is perfectly valid.

Yes and there is a girl that runs around AC begging for coins that seems both a it young shall I say, and a bit simple minded. Next thing I see is her sucking some dude off on a porn site. Really shameful.

[Sammon]

That is correct, work or school eye dee will not have date of birth; if it does, it was likely purchased on the street in Chinatown. There are alternatives to police clearance (there is no such thing as "police eye dee," except of course for police themselves): there is voter registration, free or cheap and needed to access local services, and with photo this is good proof of age 18. There is postal eye dee, used for banking. Also driver's license, etc. Also "barangay" or local neighborhood eye dee, but in place of this an 18 year old May as well have the voter eye dee.

Really, there is no excuse for someone age 18+ not to have at least a voter registration card. Absolutely no good excuse, she might be asked for proof of age when traveling, especially nowadays. And do check the photo that it's not her cousin.

Of course knowing filipinas, it may be that the card is declared "lost" because she does not want you to know her real name. In that case also, reject her.

All proof of age costs money. Like I said before there is only small percentage of young 18,19,20 year old girls willing to have sex with foreigners not counting bargirls. I am talking about non bargirls.

These girls usually do not have jobs. Living with their parents and their social life is Partying with other young people in the barangay. Hearing from some friends they can make money from foreigners they join dating sites. They have no money to get proof of their identity. If I really like them after chatting cam to cam I do send money for them to get it. Most of the time I am not scammed. They know if they scam me for few pesos big payday will never come. Even some who confess being not of age fixed me up with their friends and cousins. I am generous if the girls are nice and friendly. Many have never been with foreigners.

Lately the hotel receptionist and security are very strict checking. There were instances where they found fake identities.

[Mdemde]

The local supermarkets are closed at 6 pm.

Last Monday I got in my first taxi in about 2 1/2 months and took a ride down to SM City, there was a lot of traffic out on the roads and loads of pedestrians, not all the shops and restaurants were open in SM City, most restaurants that were open were for take-out only but I found one restaurant that was allowing dine-in, and for the first time in about 3 months I had a meal in a restaurant! And I also found a coffee shop at SM City (Bo's) that allowed dine-in, and also gave them my custom. But then, as I mentioned, the very next day all the Malls had to shut down again and we are now back to where we were at the end of March.

In my post of 27th June I wrote that "Last Monday I got in my first taxi in about 2 1/2 months and took a ride down to SM City", I got my dates mixed-up, it was actually Monday the 15th June when I went there, and the very next day, 16th June, Cebu City reverted back to ECQ (the worst level) and shut down all the Malls, so they have been shut now for nearly 2 weeks.

And Metro supermarket inside Ayala Mall is now closing every day at 5 pm, not 6 pm, but Rustans is open till 6 pm.

[OlderAndWiser]

Looks like the admin has been kind enough to make me a Senior Member so I now have a private inbox.

I have posted before about the critical importance of having an Atty you can trust if ever you are unfortunate enough to get into trouble here in the Phils.

The case of the American guy who died earlier this month is a perfect example. The case he was fighting was ridiculously weak. The only evidence against him was that of a Downs girl who pointed to her mouth which was interpreted by her Shabu addict mum as oral rape. Anyone who took one look at the girl in question who was basically homeless, living in the streets, not washed for weeks, as well as suffering from Downs would immediately see that no one in their right mind would want to have any sexual contact with the girl. He ended up dieing because he didn't get a decent atty fast enough and when he did he had a stupid feud with him and the next one he got was murdered.

IMHO it is absolutely essential that anyone who spends any reasonable amount of time here has the names and numbers of a few more or less honest Attys specializing in criminal law in their phone book. If you plan to be here full time it would probably be worth preemptively establishing a relationship with one, but in any case you should have some names and numbers. Don't expect your Embassy to be able or willing to help in this situation, all they will do is give you a list of the most expensive top end generalist firms in the Philippines who are unlikely to want to take you on as a client or have the relevant skills. By and large if you are in one of the big cities Manila, Cebu or Davao you will be better off with a local lawyer. The quality of criminal lawyers outside the big cities is so low, you may find no reasonable alternative but to hire someone out of town. If you would like a list of reasonable Cebu Criminal lawyers, just PM me I'll put one together. Hopefully you will never need it, but like all insurance it's well worth having in case you ever do.

[VictorHugo99]

Mr OAW,

I have been bitten before.

Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me.

Have stopped playing with fire.

Hope our friends keep safe, and save their own lives.

Vic.

A few months ago I posted about an American guy who had wound up in Cebu City Jail following a allegation by the mother of a downs girl he had let into has apartment. If you recall he had been cleared of the main charge but sentenced to "child abuse". Sadly he died at the beginning of this month. As many of you are probably aware the Jails in Phils are a hotbed for covid because of the insane overcrowding. They have found many hundreds of confirmed cases though IMHO most of the inmates will now be positive and asymptomatic. The guy developed a fever but they just kept him in the cell only sending him to hospital when it got very serious. He died a few hours later and was buried the next day. The death cert says "septic shock" but he was 51 and my guess is the are just using it as a cover to avoid media coverage. Sorry for the depressing news I know its not what you came to this site to hear, but it's worth being well aware of the risks of certain behaviours here.

[OlderAndWiser]

Though its sad a human life is lost in this way but.

He should know better than to associate w minors, worse inviting her into his apartment w dubious intentions.

One of my friends were always targetting the minors, the next thing I do is severe all ties w him.
There was a girl wanting to be my gf, but when i found out she is 16, i declined.

If you want to risk, then be prepared to face the consequences.

Certainly he knew this. The girl was actually 24 but she had a mental age of a child and so counted as a minor in the Phils which he wasn't aware of. He also didn't have any sexual intent he had just been asked to clean a wound on her leg apparently.

It's an unusual case, and your main point, to be paranoid of any contact with minors is perfectly valid.

[Golfinho]

(there is no such thing as "police eye dee," except of course for police themselves): there is voter registration, free or cheap and needed to access local services, and with photo this is good proof of age 18. There is postal eye dee, used for banking. Also driver's license, etc.r.

The Postal identification is the big one. They all know they need it, and no reason why one wouldn't have it.

[Cbea20]

That is correct, work or school eye dee will not have date of birth; if it does, it was likely purchased on the street in Chinatown. There are alternatives to police clearance (there is no such thing as "police eye dee," except of course for police themselves): there is voter registration, free or cheap and needed to access local services, and with photo this is good proof of age 18. There is postal eye dee, used for banking. Also driver's license, etc. Also "barangay" or local neighborhood eye dee, but in place of this an 18 year old May as well have the voter eye dee.

Really, there is no excuse for someone age 18+ not to have at least a voter registration card. Absolutely no good excuse, she might be asked for proof of age when traveling, especially nowadays. And do check the photo that it's not her cousin.

Of course knowing filipinas, it may be that the card is declared "lost" because she does not want you to know her real name. In that case also, reject her.

Always insist on police I. The, not school or work I. The. For police I. The it costs around 250 pesos and couple of days. I believe police needs to be shown real birth certificate.

It is well known there are lots of mothers and cousins looking to make money fronting pretty girls who are not of legal age. I have several contacts who when pressed say the girls who they will procure are under age. Hotels have gotten tougher now checking I. The. For a person who is living local having an apartment thinking it is okay to do whatever is very risky.

Let the big head do the thinking and be safe.

[Sammon]

Though its sad a human life is lost in this way but.

He should know better than to associate w minors, worse inviting her into his apartment w dubious intentions.

One of my friends were always targetting the minors, the next thing I do is severe all ties w him.
There was a girl wanting to be my gf, but when i found out she is 16, i declined.

If you want to risk, then be prepared to face the consequences.

Always insist on police I. d ,not school or work I. D. For police I. D it costs around 250 pesos and couple of days. I believe police needs to be shown real birth certificate.

It is well known there are lots of mothers and cousins looking to make money fronting pretty girls who are not of legal age. I have several contacts who when pressed say the girls who they will procure are under age. Hotels have gotten tougher now checking I. D. For a person who is living local having an apartment thinking it is okay to do whatever is very risky.

Let the big head do the thinking and be safe.

[Mdemde]

Nice FR Mdemde.

Cebu is being called out by the President as hear headed and people unable to follow the rules. I know a lot of people in Cebu are angry at others for basically ignoring the advice and warnings. - and there are some serious hotspots there (more along the SRP) but sadly many pinoys are 'hard headed' (to quote a cutie I know who is also upset at the ECQ being reimposed) and they seems intent on messing it up for everyone else.

Check your PMs please.

Thanks WR, I will do so now.

[Datiao]

A few months ago I posted about an American guy who had wound up in Cebu City Jail following a allegation by the mother of a downs girl he had let into has apartment. The guy developed a fever but they just kept him in the cell only sending him to hospital when it got very serious. He died a few hours later and was buried the next day. The death cert says "septic shock" but he was 51 and my guess is the are just using it as a cover to avoid media coverage. Sorry for the depressing news I know its not what you came to this site to hear, but it's worth being well aware of the risks of certain behaviours here.

Though its sad a human life is lost in this way but.

He should know better than to associate w minors, worse inviting her into his apartment w dubious intentions.

One of my friends were always targetting the minors, the next thing I do is severe all ties w him.
There was a girl wanting to be my gf, but when i found out she is 16, i declined.

If you want to risk, then be prepared to face the consequences.

[OlderAndWiser]

A few months ago I posted about an American guy who had wound up in Cebu City Jail following a allegation by the mother of a downs girl he had let into has apartment. If you recall he had been cleared of the main charge but sentenced to "child abuse". Sadly he died at the beginning of this month. As many of you are probably aware the Jails in Phils are a hotbed for covid because of the insane overcrowding. They have found many hundreds of confirmed cases though IMHO most of the inmates will now be positive and asymptomatic. The guy developed a fever but they just kept him in the cell only sending him to hospital when it got very serious. He died a few hours later and was buried the next day. The death cert says "septic shock" but he was 51 and my guess is the are just using it as a cover to avoid media coverage. Sorry for the depressing news I know its not what you came to this site to hear, but it's worth being well aware of the risks of certain behaviours here.

[Cjetset]

I left Cebu City February 28th after spending the month there for work. With going back to ECQ indefinitely June 16th I don't think tourism will now come back til fall at best. More likely after Christmas. I'm back in NYC where it's seems under control but it's because we can be outside this time of year. Places like FLA basically ignored the virus and seem to be paying for it now. I'm not sure when I can get back to Cebu for work. And if I do it's likely a quarantine despite that I have been tested. I still think with 106-109 million people the Philippines is safer health wise but I wouldn't go back now with all these lockdowns on and off despite me missing the ladies.

Originally back in December 2019 and January 2020 I was concerned, but still very optimistic about the virus not being that big a deal. I thought warm tropical weather plus the world wide lockdowns would get things under control fast and that travel would be restored by June or July 2020 at the latest. Guess What? I was wrong big time! Turns out Corona ain't going away like previous recent outbreaks. It looks like it is here to stay. As a result international travel will remain off limits for most of us unless you are willing to submit to a quarantine upon arrival and various other restrictions or unless you are already in country. I have a couple of friends in Thailand. All I can say is they are having a much better time stuck in LOS then I am having in Florida even though the situation here in Florida has been Corona lite compared to lockdowns elsewhere.

Anyway, my point is international travel will not be up and running again until there is a widely distributed vaccine. Sorry, but that is the long and short of it. No country is going to open up their borders before the vaccine happens especially the PI. Now when a vaccine is found, and after it passes rigorous human testing and gets the gold seal of approval from the appropriate health organizations, and most importantly WHEN said vaccine becomes widely available is still anyone's guess. At this point availability of a vaccine by the end of 2020 seems way too optimistic to me. I sincerely hope I am wrong. Hopefully by March or April 2021 a vaccine will become widely available, but I wouldn't bet the farm on that date either.

That said, there are a number of very interesting and encouraging vaccine developments in labs all over the world. Scientific progress is being made. For example a recent 2 stage vaccine from Oxford looks very promising. It is just now beginning rigorous human trials. So I am confident an effective vaccine or vaccines will eventually be found. But testing and distribution will take time. That leaves us with no choice, but to stay safe and wait it out.

What a shit year 2020 has turned out to be!

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[Wicked Roger]

I am stuck in USA. ATM banned from EU too.

DG.

The way things are looking in your place USA citizens will be banned for a long time from most places. Makes sense given the spikes in cases and the fact you have such great leadership handling a huge public health crisis like a baby in arms sucking his thumb.

Be safe my friend.

[Wicked Roger]

They eased the lockdown restrictions here at the beginning of the month, the malls started to open up, taxis appeared once again on the streets, my condo building (near Ayala Mall) allowed visitors again (they had to fill out an online 'health declaration' form before they were allowed in) but then suddenly on June 16 the authorities reimposed full lockdown again (back to ECQ) and all the malls had to shut and all taxis were taken off the roads and my condo building will not allow visitors.

As for pussy, I have a few regulars here but all are under the age of 21 and are unable to come out to meet me. About a month ago I found one girl online (on Pinalove) and have met her a few times and used a small budget hotel nearby, she claims to be 23 but I think she is late 20's, really out of my preferred age-range but I'll have to make do for now, anyway, it's good sexercise! As there are no jeeps or taxis running, she has a 1 and 1/2 hour walk to come and meet me, I have about a 20 minute walk, the hotel is 1 k and I give her 1. 5 k.

Nice FR Mdemde.

Cebu is being called out by the President as hear headed and people unable to follow the rules. I know a lot of people in Cebu are angry at others for basically ignoring the advice and warnings. - and there are some serious hotspots there (more along the SRP) but sadly many pinoys are 'hard headed' (to quote a cutie I know who is also upset at the ECQ being reimposed) and they seems intent on messing it up for everyone else.

Check your PMs please.