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[Steve Nash]

SN: The idea of coming in July is probably way too soon. If you've been following the discussion here, there have been guesses as to when lockdowns will lighten (they have, June 1), just a bit. Sunshine-up-the-ass estimates are for this year, more conservative estimates are 2021 (or later). WC.

I wish I can wait longer, I been holding going to Manila for a month now, but I really need to go there on July.

Today Manila was kept to GCQ, but Duterte said that Manila restrictions will be further eased to revive the economy. Hopefully on July 15 it will be change to MGCQ just in time before going there. There is a huge difference from GCQ to MGCQ, condo restrictions are lifted, here in the province I could bring a visitor without restrictions and not writing her name or giving ID. Well most of my visitors has been friends or family of my GF but still, I don't think bringing a girl will be any different.

I found a condo in airbnb that doesn't have security guards but is still secure because only people with a key can get in and because it has alot of cameras. Most reviews for that condo said that condo is secure so you have nothing to worry about.

That condo will be perfect for bringing multiple girls in a day since not restrictions and guards. I send an email to the owner a couple of days ago, so far no reply.

Worse case I will have to book a girl in my condo, and then when she goes to work I will use the short hotels close by for the other girls.

[Steve Nash]

How are you planning to do that? If you are asking about accommodation options then presumably you are not a Permanent Resident. Are tourists now allowed in?

Cheers. G.

Tourist are allow in if you are stranded in the province and you have a flight back to your country, my flight back is for August.

But more likely I will change my flight date once I am in Manila.

[Steve Nash]

There could be an issue with getting in and out of most hotels in Manila since virtually ALL of them are being used for quarantine of OFWs and BPO workers who have tested positive.

I don't stay in hotels anymore, the last 6-7 years I always stay in condos or houses from airbnb.

My condo is NOT allowing outside visitors in yet. If you have a visitor you have to meet them in the lobby.

You should try Air bnb to find a condo but ask a lot of questions before you pay, becos the condo might be locked down. That means you might be allowed in as the tenant, but no visitors will be allowed.

What about if I come with my guest straight from the airport and sign her as my second guest, do I need to give her name days in advance? Or just when I check-in, I still haven't decide who will pick me up at the airport, I have 3 candidates so I need to make sure who ever I choose will be the right one, because I might get stuck with her for my whole Manila stay.

Or maybe I should book the condo every 3 days and check-in a different girl everytime, hahaha that will be fun if it works, LOL.

Conclusion: Use air bnb to get a house but again, ask a lot of questions. You are also running a helluva risk with 3 or 4 girls a day. How will you be sure at least 1 of them or all of them are not carrying the virus? If she has come from Tondo for example, yikes.

(One reason why I won't go near LA Cafe for a long time yet).

I have a cutie from Tondo, she told me she lives in the good side of Tondo not the poor side and from her facebook pics she doesn't look poor, she has a nice bedroom with aircond.

Does Tondo have a bad coronavirus epidemic? Or you just think because most of Tondo is a poor area so they might all have the virus.

[WestCoast1]

There could be an issue with getting in and out of most hotels in Manila since virtually ALL of them are being used for quarantine of OFWs and BPO workers who have tested positive. For some it's just one or 2 floors. For others, it's almost the whole place. Entry to hotels is now very strict.

In my city, almost all hotels (those that didn't close quickly when the lockdowns started) are almost completely full of OFW / SLI (Stranded Local Individual pinoy). It started, quietly and with no hotel announcement, about 4 weeks into the lockdown here. I moved into a nearly empty hotel (where I've stayed many times before). I didn't like the place where I was staying and just walked in off the street to the hotel and inquired about a room. "Westy welcome back! Yes, rent a room here. We miss you". Is that Mgmt code for you don't have very many customers? "Haha yes. Owner wants to stay open but few customers". I rented as there was a good rate on Agoda, the rooms have stiff mattresses (I like) and large mirrors (imagine me wanting that) and good wifi, and for less than you might expect. The next day as I was going out for lunch the desk girl called me over and asked for my Brgy health clearance. I handed it over and she made a copy. "Also sir Westy you need one for any guest". Wait, you didn't mention that when I booked the room for a week. She called a manager out and they spoke quietly. The manager turned to me and said: "Don't worry your guest's clearance". Check!

My condo is NOT allowing outside visitors in yet. If you have a visitor you have to meet them in the lobby.

All condos in my city are not taking any outsiders (pinoy included) that are over 59 or under 21, and all newcomers must have a brgy or city health clearance (proof of 14-day quarantine in THIS city with no symptoms) + doctor's medical certificate (blood test and possibly chest xray). Even if you are allowed in to rent, you must register your guests at the time you register into the building, then each of them upon entry must also provide a health clearance + medical certificate. Many apartments in the area require same. Many hotels now require at least the brgy / city health clearance showing your quarantine or living in the city for 2 weeks symptom-free. If you are in a condo or such hotel or apartment, your guests will have to show the same. Some of my mates in this area are using short-time hotels for joy.

You should try Air bnb to find a condo but ask a lot of questions before you pay, becos the condo might be locked down. That means you might be allowed in as the tenant, but no visitors will be allowed. Conclusion: Use air bnb to get a house but again, ask a lot of questions.

I have had mixed results in asking the questions of the airbnb hosts or owners. Example: Is there an age restriction at your condo?

1. "No sir". (Later it will turn out there is).

2. "No sir. But the property Admin might have restriction". BaJesus! You don't know? You are not 100% sure?

3. "No sir. The property Admin maybe has restriction. You ask them". Wait. You want me to fly to your city, taxi to your building, and ask at the front desk about the age restriction? "If you want to sir". BaJesus! Can't YOU ask them, since you live there? "Oh. Yes sir". BaJesus! Did the building Admin not notice you of these things? "I don't know sir. I can check". BaJesus! In chatting with the Admin at one such property, they told me: "Yes sir we notice every unit owner at the start of Covid lockdown. In fact, its the unit owners that have meeting and vote for these restrictions. Then we notice to all of them. Also we put up large sign in lobby and sign in elevators. Any owner tell you they are not aware is not telling a truth".

All condo properties have told me that all visitors must have same appropriate medical clearances here. Its one reason I don't want to go back to Manila, as I'm sure its the same there. One property Management told me that if I rented an airbnb place there, that I would not be allowed any visitors for any reason. I told them the airbnb rental was for two, me and my GF. "Sorry sir. You only will be allowed entry. You decide that with the owner and airbnb. But you only. No guests or visitor". I informed the owner, as the airbnb rental was already complete. He refused to refund, and I had to turn to airbnb. They refunded in full (official reason was not Covid, it was "Unit was not as described in listing" This is how it goes.

SN: The idea of coming in July is probably way too soon. If you've been following the discussion here, there have been guesses as to when lockdowns will lighten (they have, June 1), just a bit. Sunshine-up-the-ass estimates are for this year, more conservative estimates are 2021 (or later). WC.

[Goferring]

I'm planning to go to Manila on the third week of July, does anybody here in Manila know of a condo or accommodation that is girl friendly right now?

How are you planning to do that? If you are asking about accommodation options then presumably you are not a Permanent Resident. Are tourists now allowed in?

Cheers. G.

[Red Kilt]

I'm planning to go to Manila on the third week of July, does anybody here in Manila know of a condo or accommodation that is girl friendly right now?

My plan is to have 2 or 3 different girls a day and bringing them to my condo, are the covid accommodation rules impossible to do this? Am I allow to only bring 1 girl a day or are there still condos allowing to bring multiple girls a day?

My other plan is to rent a house, so that there won't be any guards controlling your guest coming in and out.

Anybody that can recommend me of a rental house in Manila?

BTW I'm already in the Philippines, so I will be traveling from the province with a travel pass and a medical clearance.

There could be an issue with getting in and out of most hotels in Manila since virtually ALL of them are being used for quarantine of OFWs and BPO workers who have tested positive.

For some it's just one or 2 floors. For others, it's almost the whole place.

Entry to hotels is now very strict.

I went into EDSA Shangri la yesterday. Had to go through temp check, wash hands, then fill up a form saying where I was going (which resto or room) . I was using it as a short cut so when confronted by the form I excused myself and did a you-turn.

My condo is NOT allowing outside visitors in yet. If you have a visitor you have to meet them in the lobby.

You should try Air bnb to find a condo but ask a lot of questions before you pay, becos the condo might be locked down. That means you might be allowed in as the tenant, but no visitors will be allowed.

Conclusion: Use air bnb to get a house but again, ask a lot of questions. You are also running a helluva risk with 3 or 4 girls a day. How will you be sure at least 1 of them or all of them are not carrying the virus? If she has come from Tondo for example, yikes.

(One reason why I won't go near LA Cafe for a long time yet).

[SethMacfarlane]

Yes and there is a girl that runs around AC begging for coins that seems both a it young shall I say, and a bit simple minded. Next thing I see is her sucking some dude off on a porn site. Really shameful.

Can you post the link?

[Steve Nash]

I'm planning to go to Manila on the third week of July, does anybody here in Manila know of a condo or accommodation that is girl friendly right now?

My plan is to have 2 or 3 different girls a day and bringing them to my condo, are the covid accommodation rules impossible to do this? Am I allow to only bring 1 girl a day or are there still condos allowing to bring multiple girls a day?

My other plan is to rent a house, so that there won't be any guards controlling your guest coming in and out.

Anybody that can recommend me of a rental house in Manila?

BTW I'm already in the Philippines, so I will be traveling from the province with a travel pass and a medical clearance.

[Steve Nash]

It was expect it that the cases will increase once they start testing regularly, before June they only test it like 150,000 to 200,000 people, in this month of June they started testing regularly and now more than 700,000 test have been done so far (500,000+ test in the last 3 weeks. Compare to 200,000 test done before in 2. 5 months /10 weeks).

If anything, we shouldn't worry too much since the cases are low comparing to other countries that test regularly, countries like: USA (30 k cases daily), Brazil (30 k cases daily), India (15 K cases daily), Russia (9 k cases daily), Spain (5 K cases daily), UK (4 K cases daily), Italy (4 K cases daily), Germany (4 K cases daily), France (3 K cases daily), Canada (1. 5 K cases daily). Philippines are only getting about 700 to 800 daily cases on average (less than 1 k!) during their regular testing time.

As long as they keep controlling those cities with high cases like Cebu City (keep them in ECQ until improves), I don't see Philippines getting worse or as bad as many Latin America countries right now. Remember there are alot of Philippine cities Covid cases free and provinces with less than 100 cases in the whole province!

In my opinion Philippines are doing a good job so far with their Quarantine laws.

I know there are other countries doing better BUT most of those countries don't have 100+ millions population, if you compare Philippines to those countries of 100+ millions population (even 80+ millions) this country is doing pretty good with lower cases.

[Member #4794]

Cebu is now the city in lockdown the longest. Not one I would want to have in my list of achievements. Friends there say too many head headed pinoys, some having fiestas etc WTF?

Are we officially surprised now?, this is what I pointed out. I'm sure we will see the whole Philippines break all the wrong records soon enough.

2 months ago it "seemed" as if they had a handle on it, and had a lot of this board optimistic, it was just too good to be true the Philippines we all know and love is showing its stripes here imo.

Largest increase in new cases from Cebu City in Central Visayas.

https://reliefweb.int/report/philipp...2-30-june-2020

Philippines COVID-19: The fastest growing country in the Western Pacific.

http://outbreaknewstoday.com/philipp...pacific-66818/

[Wicked Roger]

Cebu is now the city in lockdown the longest. Not one I would want to have in my list of achievements. Friends there say too many head headed pinoys, some having fiestas etc WTF?

https://www.philstar.com/opinion/202...cked-down-city

[Naked Gunz]

Certainly he knew this. The girl was actually 24 but she had a mental age of a child and so counted as a minor in the Phils which he wasn't aware of. He also didn't have any sexual intent he had just been asked to clean a wound on her leg apparently. It's an unusual case, and your main point, to be paranoid of any contact with minors is perfectly valid.

Yes and there is a girl that runs around AC begging for coins that seems both a it young shall I say, and a bit simple minded. Next thing I see is her sucking some dude off on a porn site. Really shameful.

[Sammon]

That is correct, work or school eye dee will not have date of birth; if it does, it was likely purchased on the street in Chinatown. There are alternatives to police clearance (there is no such thing as "police eye dee," except of course for police themselves): there is voter registration, free or cheap and needed to access local services, and with photo this is good proof of age 18. There is postal eye dee, used for banking. Also driver's license, etc. Also "barangay" or local neighborhood eye dee, but in place of this an 18 year old May as well have the voter eye dee.

Really, there is no excuse for someone age 18+ not to have at least a voter registration card. Absolutely no good excuse, she might be asked for proof of age when traveling, especially nowadays. And do check the photo that it's not her cousin.

Of course knowing filipinas, it may be that the card is declared "lost" because she does not want you to know her real name. In that case also, reject her.

All proof of age costs money. Like I said before there is only small percentage of young 18,19,20 year old girls willing to have sex with foreigners not counting bargirls. I am talking about non bargirls.

These girls usually do not have jobs. Living with their parents and their social life is Partying with other young people in the barangay. Hearing from some friends they can make money from foreigners they join dating sites. They have no money to get proof of their identity. If I really like them after chatting cam to cam I do send money for them to get it. Most of the time I am not scammed. They know if they scam me for few pesos big payday will never come. Even some who confess being not of age fixed me up with their friends and cousins. I am generous if the girls are nice and friendly. Many have never been with foreigners.

Lately the hotel receptionist and security are very strict checking. There were instances where they found fake identities.

[Mdemde]

The local supermarkets are closed at 6 pm.

Last Monday I got in my first taxi in about 2 1/2 months and took a ride down to SM City, there was a lot of traffic out on the roads and loads of pedestrians, not all the shops and restaurants were open in SM City, most restaurants that were open were for take-out only but I found one restaurant that was allowing dine-in, and for the first time in about 3 months I had a meal in a restaurant! And I also found a coffee shop at SM City (Bo's) that allowed dine-in, and also gave them my custom. But then, as I mentioned, the very next day all the Malls had to shut down again and we are now back to where we were at the end of March.

In my post of 27th June I wrote that "Last Monday I got in my first taxi in about 2 1/2 months and took a ride down to SM City", I got my dates mixed-up, it was actually Monday the 15th June when I went there, and the very next day, 16th June, Cebu City reverted back to ECQ (the worst level) and shut down all the Malls, so they have been shut now for nearly 2 weeks.

And Metro supermarket inside Ayala Mall is now closing every day at 5 pm, not 6 pm, but Rustans is open till 6 pm.

[OlderAndWiser]

Looks like the admin has been kind enough to make me a Senior Member so I now have a private inbox.

I have posted before about the critical importance of having an Atty you can trust if ever you are unfortunate enough to get into trouble here in the Phils.

The case of the American guy who died earlier this month is a perfect example. The case he was fighting was ridiculously weak. The only evidence against him was that of a Downs girl who pointed to her mouth which was interpreted by her Shabu addict mum as oral rape. Anyone who took one look at the girl in question who was basically homeless, living in the streets, not washed for weeks, as well as suffering from Downs would immediately see that no one in their right mind would want to have any sexual contact with the girl. He ended up dieing because he didn't get a decent atty fast enough and when he did he had a stupid feud with him and the next one he got was murdered.

IMHO it is absolutely essential that anyone who spends any reasonable amount of time here has the names and numbers of a few more or less honest Attys specializing in criminal law in their phone book. If you plan to be here full time it would probably be worth preemptively establishing a relationship with one, but in any case you should have some names and numbers. Don't expect your Embassy to be able or willing to help in this situation, all they will do is give you a list of the most expensive top end generalist firms in the Philippines who are unlikely to want to take you on as a client or have the relevant skills. By and large if you are in one of the big cities Manila, Cebu or Davao you will be better off with a local lawyer. The quality of criminal lawyers outside the big cities is so low, you may find no reasonable alternative but to hire someone out of town. If you would like a list of reasonable Cebu Criminal lawyers, just PM me I'll put one together. Hopefully you will never need it, but like all insurance it's well worth having in case you ever do.