Seeking Arrangements

[Elvis 2008]

One of the good fucked up parts of my life I do not understand is that I am like literally the only person I know doing better money wise in this Covid world, and it has had its ups and downs but mostly it has been up. I have joked that Covid has been berry, berry good to me.

Some thought that Covid would create a buyer's market for SDs, but in reality, the USA has been printing up so much money and handing out via unemployment that some are doing better now not working than working. This is not the case in other countries. I had focused on Colombia because I had loved the women there. Since Covid started, I underestimated the political influence with Covid and where countries and pols matched who can restrict their citizens the most meant that they cared the most. The irony about the International media which has been cheering on the restrictions seems to heap praise on countries that massively restrict and belittle countries that don't. Anyway, I had four SB prospects in Colombia, and two were more than SB prospects, but the third and fourth were on the fence pre-Covid. They have now signed off SA and even those two are begging me to play with her remote control vibrator. Then there are three others that I have not even physically met: one of whom has already confessed her love for me. All told I spend about $1000 on these seven women, and we text all the time. I know that I am going to have to pare them down, but I am going to have a hard time choosing. Of the four I have been with, three are gorgeous and the other may be the best lover I have had. The quality of women available post Covid has been unreal in Colombia.

I thought we Americans could go to Brazil so I started texting women there. I ran into one who spoke English and has an American visa. She may be the hottest of all. She too has fallen for me via texts. I am finding again and again women just desperate for support, someone to talk to, someone there for them. This one is crazy hot. She is another one with like no body fat, and she dances like a Laker Girl and seriously she could be one. I am going to be meeting her in Mexico (Thank God!) in 2 weeks, and I have not been this excited to meet someone in a long time.

Still, I was dying for some last month, and the week I had taken off for Colombia was upon me so I tried Mexico. Suffice it to say that unlike all the other cities in Mexico City, Mexico City delivered. I had a hard time finding hot women there before. This time, however, I had sex with seven different hot women, four of them I would call 10's. In my two previous trips, I had women who were no better than 8's in CDMX. It looks like two are keepers.

The downside to Covid is that everyone freaks out about it. My favorite Mexico City girl could not meet me in Cancun when I was there because she had a panic attack. I reached out to two other women last minute and both of them came. It didn't work out well because one of the women learned her family was hit by Covid, and the other one wanted a better deal if that girl was leaving. Sigh.

Still, the girl who was supposed to come has promised to make it up to me. I asked her if she would spend the night with me, something she was reluctant to do before and she excitedly said yes.

All four of the Mexican 10s had jobs and were not available pre-Covid. So yeah, the travel restrictions stink and the panic people have with traveling and a few have being intimate sucks too, but the quality of women out there is unreal.

Here are a few examples of what is out there. I have been with all these women save 2, and I think there are women just as high quality out there as these are.

[Elvis 2008]

The SBs on there told me that a lot of SDs don't care about their appearance, or are assholes, or they are not normal guys (whatever that means).

I had one SB or really more like a selective hooker I saw who got on SA and showed me her responses. There were a ton of them, but we agreed on the two that were real. There were like a hundred bullshit artists on there trying to get laid for nothing.

The moral is, if you try to look your best, try to have fun, try to act like a normal guy, and try to treat the gals well, then you should get a lot out of SA.

I agree, and I would add that you have to screen well and be disciplined. If you let yourself get walked all over, then you are going to be taken advantage of and be bitter. I think you also have to have the discipline to walk away from a bad deal and say "next".

I remember something one surprisingly wise and intelligent stripper told me about strip clubs, "Stop hanging out at the strip clubs. Those women are second best, and you deserve better than that. If you ever want to settle for second best, those bitches are always going to be there."

The same thing is true with the hookers on SA. Those bitches are always going to be there. The hard part is finding one with character.

[Elvis 2008]

With money, we own their vagina. Without money, they own their vagina.

I love it, MW!!

[Midwestern]

That's an interesting statement. So why pay money? As the old saying goes we don't pay money to get them into our bed, we pay them well so that they leave and have no recourse. .

PP.

With money, we own their vagina. Without money, they own their vagina.

[PilotPaul]

The moral is, if you try to look your best, try to have fun, try to act like a normal guy, and try to treat the gals well, then you should get a lot out of SA.

That's an interesting statement. So why pay money? As the old saying goes we don't pay money to get them into our bed, we pay them well so that they leave and have no recourse. .

PP.

[Midwestern]

The dancing gets very latin and sexy where she will be booty shaking and turn around and back into me. And of course I reciprocate with conjoined hip thrusting and simulated sex on the floor. She surely felt my growing stiffy. Looking over her shoulder and smiling.

I think reasons why SA works so well for you is because you seem to be a good looking guy, a good dancer, and you got game.

When I joined SA 6 years ago, I had a lot of that going for me too. And so, I too got a lot out of SA.

The SBs on there told me that a lot of SDs don't care about their appearance, or are assholes, or they are not normal guys (whatever that means).

The moral is, if you try to look your best, try to have fun, try to act like a normal guy, and try to treat the gals well, then you should get a lot out of SA.

[Steve 9696]

Since no one is having sex in Miami anytime soon thought you might enjoy this FR from last summer. It was pretty early in my journey but went very well. One of the few times I didn't agree a number going in. I found later that can lead to missed expectations. So I try to always settle on gift ahead of time now.

Started surfing SA several weeks in advanced. Unlike other girls Lucy was not up for much pre-meet text chatting. Pretty much just said she was willing to meet for drinks and dancing. We never discussed a price for the sex part tho obviously it's implied sex will likely occur. Since I was going to Brazil I was comfortable just playing it by ear. If the in-person price was too high I would just skip the sex and not pay that pricing level.

She sent some pics and she looked pretty hot but I had more chemistry with other girls. But Some other girls fizzled so I thought what the heck.

I got the impression she is a part timer and she is. She works as an office manager at a construction company. She has an undergrad in finance but went back to school for 2 years to get an electronic drafting degree. She's Colombian and has a smoking sexy accent.

So we text back and forth and agreed to meet in downtown Miami at 11 ish at a place I found called Blackbird. She lives a half hour away and I sent an Uber. (I have a Steve Uber acct). This is great because I could track her progress and see when she arrived.

When I saw her pull up I went outside to meet her. Wow. Waaaay prettier in person. She was wearing a crop top and hot pants and spike fuck-me heels. Really sexy. Wow. Hot hot girl with a dynamite smile and body. Perfect be cup tits I will later discover.

So Blackbird has a great vibe but is pretty empty on a Wednesday night. They have a free pool table so we played quite a bit. She is pretty horrible but it was fun and things got more and more cuddly as the night progressed. She is drinking Jack and Coke like me and matching me glass for glass (I got one head start while she was ubering).

She keeps breaking into sexy dancing at the pool table or the bar and I join her. But when I suggest we take it out on the sparsely populated dance floor she is embarrassed and says maybe if there are more people. So I ask if she knows somewhere and she does. So it's off to El Patio in Wynnwood -- a Latin club. Oh this is when it helps to have a local. When we are at blackbird we had just ordered a round when we decided to bail. I thought we'd have to cancel but she says we'll just get them to go. Sure enough they put our JandC in cups and we party in our Uber all the way to El Patio. Nice!

And we arrive El Patio. Holy holy fuck. She was so sweet to tolerate my lame choice because El Patio is off the hook. Easily 2-300 people packing a wild and vibrant dancefloor. Simply epic.

We make our way to the bar and order two Jack and Cokes and a Hookah. Sorta shocked by the $105 bill (But I am partying at the hottest club in Miami with the hottest girl in the club! (My Blackbird bill was $100. I think we had 4 rounds.).

El Patio is a ton of fun. We are dancing and smoking Hookah and she even has us do two shots in addition to the rest. This is obviously a mistake as it makes it super hard to cum later. But in the moment it is fun.

The dancing gets very latin and sexy where she will be booty shaking and turn around and back into me. And of course I reciprocate with conjoined hip thrusting and simulated sex on the floor. She surely felt my growing stiffy. 😋 Looking over her shoulder and smiling. Uau!

So we are ready to take it back to the room and I whisper that I will want to give her a gift and did she have something in mind. She says $400. Which honestly is reasonable for the market but I had hoped to get off for $300 originally (though I upped it to $400 when she entered blackbird).

So I used MMs line and said "that makes me sad because that is the I don't want to go with you price. I thought I liked me!" (This is a PRICELESS line. So perfect) She laughed and whispered back something that was either $200 or $300 and I was ok with either so I said let's go.

Back in the room it was a solid but not top experience. We started making out and she is a solid but not exceptional kisser and took it to the bed fully clothed. We lose her clothes pretty quickly and I get on top kissing her hard. I find she has perfect be cup tits which I start working by hand and then with mouth. She seems to like this as the smell of young pussy begins to fill the air. But when I go to go down on her she stops me and says she's very sweaty. I say it doesn't matter but still it's not happening and that's a bit disappointing.

So I work her a bit by hand. She is wet but not sloppy like you might expect from the wonderful fragrance filling the room. She rolls me on my back and only does very little BJ before wanting to move to cowgirl. I do think she's in a bit of a hurry as it's now 3 AM and she has an 830 flight. We struggle a bit with my Okamotos but eventually get me suited up.

She has a GREAT feeling pussy in all positions and we do Mish then doggie then Mish then legs closed doggie. I like the fact that she kisses in mish but she tends to break away before I am ready. It's taking me a long time so she says baby I think you have drank too much. This is disappointing to hear her say -- could have kept on trying. But she is right.

So I ask her to turn on the light and masturbate for me. Wow. This is pretty great. Even though she doesn't reach O She has a perfect pussy. Just a touch of lips but not too much. And unlike some Latinas where the pussy is more a gray shade due to some black heritage, hers is a perfect flesh pink. OMG. Beautiful.

So she starts working her clit in circles as I jack off kneeling on the bed. She is starting to writhe and really get into it so much so she starts to cover her face with her hand and then the pillow -. She's embarrassed how she looks. This is a real girl thing, not a pro so it's very sexy.

Takes a bit but watching her hand work that perfect pussy and that nearly perfect body writhing back and forth and I shoot some solid shots, blocking most of it with my hand -- feeling guilty about dropping a load on the perfect Hyatt bed spread! LOL. Wow. Glad to tug one out at that hour and drunkenness. It was a labor of love and actually felt great after all that lead up.

Of course we then part ways and she heads off in her Uber. I did drop some hints about her flying to me in another city and she was visibly excited. But she'd have to up her game in the bedroom to vault over Maria (unknown bedroom game but real passion) and Valentina (also unknown but will find out Saturday and since she tends more to the pro side I think it will be good). After Saturday if Lucy remains a top girl I will text her and let her know the areas she could improve if she wants to road trip with me.

It's funny because I can see the Seeking Arrangement spectrum in my three current hotties (at that time):

Maria -- Just a real world girl exploring. She really likes me but is completely new to this game. When we talked yesterday and I said I might like to fly her to NY she said "you'd do that for me?" Like she is genuinely surprised anyone would like her this much and want to spend money on her.

Lucy -- Real world girl but some experience in the game. Has a price. Minimizes BJ work. But has a real job and commitments. Likes to party and knows how to mix in getting paid to do so.

Valentina -- Even though we are playing the BFGF game I can tell she tends to the pro side and is just very good at all the surrounding storyline. This is fine with me. As long as it feels real. We will see in person on Saturday.

So that is the Lucy scoop. Glad I took the extra in Miami. Stunning girl, bubbly personality. Ton of fun in the club. And some things to work on in the sack. I will have to train her up! 😋.

Post note: When I was in Brazil she hit me up for rent money. A bit disappointing. I said no of course.

[Pessimist]

Yeah it was a major pain. It was particularly painful on my iPad; would keep me in the loop for 5 to 8 times even when I didn't make any mistakes. For some reason, it was a bit better on the smartphone and was always pretty clean on laptop. Anyway, yeah I noticed it stopped asking me that nonsense for a few days now. Was not aware of any survey though. Perhaps because I didn't renew my membership a few weeks ago. I will renew when covid is behind me and ready to meet new girls.

[Steve 9696]

So one of the things that USED TO really piss me off on SA was having to do the Recaptcha thing every time I logged in. OMG I am NOT a robot for the thousandth time.

A recent SA survey I mentioned this. And a week later it was gone. Coincidence? Were any of you having to do the I'm Not a Robot thing and it went away? Either way super happy it's gone.

[LshRoomer]

Yeah, I believe this is the best option too, but as soon as I say I'm married, then she starts to act like a pro. She treats dates as appointments, and she pretends to like me. And this defeats the purpose for being on SA, or having an arrangement, to begin with. When they think I'm single, it's like having a real GF, which is why I use SA to begin with. A lot of girls go onto SA to find rich and successful BFs. But don't get me wrong. I've gotten burned going the "single" route, which is why saying I am married is perhaps the best route in the long run, especially for making the inevitable exit down the road a smooth exit.

Another option is to just say "let's keep it a mystery. ".

Interesting perspectives.

These days, I personally create a persona that is 85% real and I don't break character. My persona is divorced with no kids, really busy with work and other activities, and needs to travel often for work and personal. Most of this is true, and it has to be in order to remain in character more easily. I haven't hit my 40's yet, so it is mostly believable that there is "still time" to settle down. As I have mentioned before, I guard my identity pretty closely and for good reason (and being in a certain industry for work makes me more paranoid, just saying) . It hasn't happened to me, but I have heard stories of SBs losing their minds and threatening to expose their SD to their families, etc. If a SB snapped on me, any identifying info she has about me is just not quite enough. It's like getting into an accident and only getting the first 10 digits of the other driver's 15 digit insurance number. You have some info, but if you call their insurance company, you don't have enough.

After chatting and spending time with her, she may know what my hobbies are, where I like to go, what I like to eat, where I'm from (in general), where I like to hang out in certain countries, and that is actually who I am. Yet, anything identifying is missing.

I have only had SBs out of town, but I have had consistency with them due to my high frequency of travel. To the married question, I usually say, "not anymore. I'm happy to be divorced, I happy to be rid of that kind of person in my life, I'm happy to not talk about or consider her anymore, and I'm even more happy to be here with you, around such positive energy". That shuts down the conversation pretty quickly and it's all true. Works every time.

02.

[PilotPaul]

You misunderstand my meaning. I wasn't suggesting she is a pro or anything. I just mean, even in ordinary dating, she probably dated other guys who were in other relationships, without knowing it. You were more honest about it.

That's the way I read your initial comment also.

[Gentleman Travel]

Yeah no. This was her first SB date ever (and my second). She's a total civvie and just naive about the whole thing. And please don't tell me she was playing me. I can tell the difference.

You misunderstand my meaning. I wasn't suggesting she is a pro or anything. I just mean, even in ordinary dating, she probably dated other guys who were in other relationships, without knowing it. You were more honest about it.

[Steve 9696]

She's probably kissed and fucked dozens of married (or partnered) guys before. Just they weren't honest with her.

Yeah no. This was her first SB date ever (and my second). She's a total civvie and just naive about the whole thing. And please don't tell me she was playing me. I can tell the difference.

[Gentleman Travel]

Yeah, I'm not going to give up on her. She had sex with me because she likes me. That by itself makes her very valuable to me. Plus, she is young and pretty, she lives nearby, has her own place, and is willing to bareback.

Maybe I'll do some lunch dates and some cuddling before I try to get her back into the sack. Eventually, though, I want this to end up as an "arrangement. " I don't want her thinking that this could lead to marriage. And I think the main way to signal that is to give her cash. This will let her know that this is something in-between prostitution and a real relationship. Which is what we all want from an arrangement to begin with, right? BUT, the truth is, I really am giving her cash to help her out, not just for the sex. She mentioned to me once that she can barely make ends meet with her current job, and so she's been studying to become a florist (I have no idea how a florist makes more money than a receptionist). So, as suggested, whenever I give her cash, I will tell her it is to help her and that it makes me happy to help her.

I still cannot believe myself. I can't believe I just showed up at her door, took a shower, and started making out with her and then moved to DATY...

Obviously you really like this girl and shouldn't give up on her, but equally you cannot let this misstep (if it was one) change the basic dynamic. DO NOT settle for non-sexual dates. That sets a terrible precedent and shifts the power to her. The one advantage mongers have is we have realized that we have power in these relationships and we discover that that works pretty well with a lot of women. It is fine to keep your foot on the gas when you are on a date with a girl. Make it clear that you expect to get to the finish line on the first (or worst-case, the second) date. I make it clear to my GFs (who are all some variation of SG) that I expect sex every date and they must plan for that. Like we can't go out partying until late then she decides she has to go home. That only happens once.

[Gentleman Travel]

. But when we first kissed at the restaurant bar she looked pensive and when I asked what she was thinking she said "I just realized I've never kissed a married man before!" We still continued our date and later made out at the rooftop bar and at her car. She was totally worked up at that point nearly eating my face and grabbing my package. But duh being totally unskilled at the time I let the moment pass. Oh well live and learn. She's the one that got away.

She's probably kissed and fucked dozens of married (or partnered) guys before. Just they weren't honest with her.