Sosua Reports

[YyzTravel]

What's the new going rate for chicas that are 7+? A popular Youtuber said start at dop 1 k. He said 2 k is generous. Most chicks wanted 1. 5 k from me 2 years ago. I declined 2. 5 k from a 8 at a bar.

Which one? Can you post / PM a source here?

[Tempoecorto]

Flew Jetblue nonstop to STI, flight was uneventful even though pretty crowded but middle seats were all left vacant. Immigration at STI was excellent but luggage was late. A gentleman was waiting to drive me to Sosua. He had a mask on as did I, for his safety. Got in around 7 PM. Playero was open and checked my temperature at entry. I was impressed with that as so far only my dentist has done that back home. Everyone at playero had masks on! Yea FL, learn!

Went out at 10 PM for a stroll all the way to Pedro Clisante. Desolate!. Well I attached a picture for that too! No woman, no cry!

[Cool]

What's the new going rate for chicas that are 7+? A popular Youtuber said start at dop 1 k. He said 2 k is generous. Most chicks wanted 1. 5 k from me 2 years ago. I declined 2. 5 k from a 8 at a bar.

[Njoean197]

I am taking the bait to chime in on your rants. I apologize to the saner readers / members of the site.

People need to understand a few things about data collection. Any and all "official" reports on any data about a population is subject to errors in the way the data was collected; errors in the way the data was processed; errors in the way the data was summarized, categorized, and presented; and errors in the actual persons from whom the data was collected. The better, if not proper, interpretation of "official" reports is "to the best of our current knowledge, technology, and practices". It is crazy to argue whether or not an "official" report is factual. The non-crazy argument is whether or not the data in the "official" report was collected in a manner that does not bias that data, whether or not the data was processed according to best practices, and whether or not the data is presented in a manner that does not mislead the users of the data.

It is up to the citizenry to keep themselves informed about things, develop an attitude of reasonable skepticism, and above all develop strong critical thinking skills. The masses can only be controlled if they keep themselves ignorant.

An example. Herd immunity. There is a train of thought making the rounds of American society that if enough Americans get infected with the virus, then the country can re-open the economy because most of the population will immune. There is now enough data on the effects of the virus on the body, even for those who have mild symptoms, to realize that the idea of arriving at herd immunity through deliberate infection is completely insane. The virus attacks the circulatory system everywhere in the body. The lungs are the most frequent target, but the digestive system, the heart, the brain, the kidneys, the liver, etc. Are also affected. (Read about COVID toes!) The virus damages all the body's organs and makes a person who recovers more susceptible to other illnesses in the future. The impact of seasonal flu on coronovirus won't be a pretty sight.

Don't play games with this disease by resorting to childish irrational rants. Keep safe and healthy. No one has reported on this yet, but I will make a speculative statement to this site due to our hobby. If the virus damages the circulatory system the way MDs are saying, then we men are at risk of erectile dysfunction should we get infected. And ED medications (viagra etc.) likely won't work as intended after recovering from an infection.

I too would also like to apologize to the sane readers of this forum for hijacking this thread haha. In regards to the official data and how its collected I agree with both of you.

I think governments were ultimately left with two options regarding the virus. Either a complete and total lockdown for several months to stop the spread, or a quasi-lockdown to slow the spread and not overwhelm hospitals. Personally, I think in a capitalist nation such as the USA, a quasi-lockdown was the right strategy. I think the economic and social damage done from a total lockdown would have been catastrophic and worse than the virus itself. Suicide, crime, poverty, and deterioration of mental health would have been extreme in such a scenario. I have not seen anywhere nor do I believe that the virus has significant long term effects on those who have mild symptoms. I was sick with the virus for a week. I feel absolutely fine now. In older and weaker patients, I am sure the virus does some permanent damage to their organs, but for 95% of the population this isn't true. I could be wrong obviously as I am not an expert, but I have not seen anywhere or heard from anyone that the virus permanently damages the organs of people with mild symptoms. I don't think any nation, except for the UK/ Sweden maybe, planned on purposely reaching heard immunity. I think they just realized what a monumental task it would be to prevent heard immunity from naturally occurring and if it did it occur it would simultaneously do more damage to society than the actual virus. This Virus is just nature running its course. Hurricanes, volcanoes, floods, earthquakes, and pandemics are always going to occur, and there will be times when we simply can't stop them. I am still in awe of how a nation of 1. 4 billion people like China was able to stop the virus while every other nation on Earth has failed to do so. I suppose it is easier to accomplish this in a one party state-controlled society, but credit should be given none-the less. I think in a capitalistic-democratic-free market society such as ours it just would not have been feasible.

With all that being said, I still think our government handled it poorly due to poor Federal leadership and lack of cooperation at the state and local level. Ok I am done I will not waste anymore space on this forum with this nonsense.

[George90]

I agree "officials" reported that there were confirmed cases, even came up with numbers. They said the cases were rising through the roof. We heard they were rising significantly in the DR. The thing is, I do not believe just because officials report something that they are 100% facts. I believe certain individuals were given the power to be the "official" source for reporting purposes. An entity that a whole segment of the population is supposed to rely on without question, thereby circumventing the need to verify and validate. Easier that way to control the masses if you will. (snip)

I am taking the bait to chime in on your rants. I apologize to the saner readers / members of the site.

People need to understand a few things about data collection. Any and all "official" reports on any data about a population is subject to errors in the way the data was collected; errors in the way the data was processed; errors in the way the data was summarized, categorized, and presented; and errors in the actual persons from whom the data was collected. The better, if not proper, interpretation of "official" reports is "to the best of our current knowledge, technology, and practices". It is crazy to argue whether or not an "official" report is factual. The non-crazy argument is whether or not the data in the "official" report was collected in a manner that does not bias that data, whether or not the data was processed according to best practices, and whether or not the data is presented in a manner that does not mislead the users of the data.

It is up to the citizenry to keep themselves informed about things, develop an attitude of reasonable skepticism, and above all develop strong critical thinking skills. The masses can only be controlled if they keep themselves ignorant.

An example. Herd immunity. There is a train of thought making the rounds of American society that if enough Americans get infected with the virus, then the country can re-open the economy because most of the population will immune. There is now enough data on the effects of the virus on the body, even for those who have mild symptoms, to realize that the idea of arriving at herd immunity through deliberate infection is completely insane. The virus attacks the circulatory system everywhere in the body. The lungs are the most frequent target, but the digestive system, the heart, the brain, the kidneys, the liver, etc. Are also affected. (Read about COVID toes!) The virus damages all the body's organs and makes a person who recovers more susceptible to other illnesses in the future. The impact of seasonal flu on coronovirus won't be a pretty sight.

Don't play games with this disease by resorting to childish irrational rants. Keep safe and healthy. No one has reported on this yet, but I will make a speculative statement to this site due to our hobby. If the virus damages the circulatory system the way MDs are saying, then we men are at risk of erectile dysfunction should we get infected. And ED medications (viagra etc.) likely won't work as intended after recovering from an infection.

[Wrx2005]

Official statistics have reported numbers of confirmed cases are rising through the roof in the United States and rising significantly in the DR. That is not up for debate, its fact.

I agree "officials" reported that there were confirmed cases, even came up with numbers. They said the cases were rising through the roof. We heard they were rising significantly in the DR. The thing is, I do not believe just because officials report something that they are 100% facts. I believe certain individuals were given the power to be the "official" source for reporting purposes. An entity that a whole segment of the population is supposed to rely on without question, thereby circumventing the need to verify and validate. Easier that way to control the masses if you will.

It works. Who is going to question an "official" report? Nobody. It's official, then it's facts, undeniable. Is there any validity or concern that many so called confirmed cases of Covid 19 were not Covid 19 cases at all? Does it cross the mind that unofficially, many people recovered from Covid 19 on their own, un-tethered to any health care monitoring system? What are the unofficial statistics for that? Remember all of the "official" reports many of us grew up with that eventually became false? But we never questioned it's validity or why it was used. A small one comes to mind. Health officials told the masses years ago, that margarine was healthier for you than butter. That fat from butter lead to heart disease. Years later we find out the truth that margarine is worse than butter.

And in fact may have ingredients in it close to resembling plastic compounds. The FDA has a history of being the official bamboozling agent for the masses. Do you know how many dangerous drugs and processed foods have been approved for human consumption by the FDA? And look at how the FDA and other agencies put the fear of GOD into people who try to enlighten people to the benefits and alternatives to conventional medicine. It's to the point you are not allowed to say anything natural cures, without being subject to censorship. Officials are not GODS. They are reporters. They report what they want you to believe.

Anybody can say numbers are rising significantly, and it would seem believable. But does anybody ever question how are these rising cases come to the surface? Is it thousands of people nationwide in the states are going into hospitals and clinics complaining they are sick and need help? Is that how it's going down? Whenever an open event happens, people go to the beach, a rally, protesting, businesses reopening etc, officials eventually report cases are rising. And the inference made, that they are rising because of these recent events. We dont know if they are recording numbers or just telling us, and we are believing it because it makes sense, and the report came from an official.

They have actually got people believing that they were able to score thousands of new cases a day from these recent events. People just going to hospitals and clinics. And some of us sit back thinking. See I knew those people trying to get on with their lives were going to end up getting sick. And yet as individuals we don't know 100 people that supposedly got sick because they went to a rally, the beach , got a haircut, or went to the gym. We are trained to assume just from inferences. So when "officials" lock everything back up again, nobody will complain. Because the officials said so. BTW, for the record, officially and unofficially, how many recoveries have occurred concurrently with all of these rising through the roof cases?

How many people self quarantined and got over it? How many asymptomatic cases are out there where people go through the course of being exposed, but it never becomes a problem? How many people tested positive for Covid 19, because sometime in their lives they were vaccinated for the flu? They don't count those instances as a case? But there are stories out there, that many instances of covid 19 are not covid 19. And finally, there is the financial aspect/incentive. Covid 19 cases generates huge profits and revenue. The longer this drags out the more money can be made.

About the DR. Can't be so quick to believe what they report either. The DR is heavily funded by the US and China, and who knows? The DR is going play by the script that is expected of them. Think about it. As bad as the US is supposed to be in regards to rising cases and deaths, the DR opened it's borders to the US to stimulate tourism? That doesn't make sense officially or unofficially. The DR is a clone of the US. Significant rising of cases, but little to nothing said about recoveries? No ongoing up to date official or unofficial reports. It doesn't pass the smell test for me. But focusing heavily on rising numbers so they can use that as an excuse to perform or threaten to perform some action? That makes sense.

[Turgid]

Met a dude earlier this week at a restaurant on PC. Told me he had been talking to a Haitian chica online. Met up with her in PP. Not sure how this got arranged, but the girls mother and brother accompanied the chica to the meet. It was conveyed by the guy to them, that it was only for them to have drinks. The guy agreed to this meet and the chicas family coming because she was young. And he thought it would make her feel more comfortable. He was not doing it because he was trying to start a relationship. But he did think she was a cool chica. So it appeared from his online contact.

To make a long story short. When the waiter came to take orders, a drink date turned into all of them ordering food. See fellas? This is why you have to watch what's going on when you set yourself up like this. More importantly, there is no need to even agree to a date like this involving bringing a mother and a brother. Because you already know that they will bring their appetites and thirsts with them when they come. And they expect you to pay for everything. Not some, everything. And they know that a foreigner is usually not going to say shit when they start taking advantage in front of the chica he is trying to hook up with.

The chica aint going to speak up for him. She isn't going to say to her family. Oh no, we are here just for drinks. The guy is not going to say anything either. Because he doesn't want to look like a jerk. So here's what happens next. Dude realizes the predicament he is in. He decides he's done with the date. Plus the police came by because they saw him dining out in the open. So he decided to take the food to go. The waiter proceeds to prepare the food to go.

The owner tries to get the guy to move to the back of the restaurant to continue dining. But the dude says he is leaving. The owner misinterpreted the guys reason for leaving. So the owner told him nastily to leave, he doesn't need his business. Said he had a bad attitude. The waiter had to explain to the owner that the food was being prepared for take out, he was leaving anyway. But when the owner basically got mad and kicked him out, the guy basically left the food behind. Additionally drinks were drunk, but he ended up not paying for anything.

And guess what? The chica, the mother and the brother lost out on their meal. Worse, is that one of them had ordered a meal to go even before this fiasco. Now that's some balls. Kudos to the dude for getting out of paying for them barracuda advantage takers. However he should have never put him self in that predicament in the 1st place. Having a meeting with the chica and two family members, is a no go. His story is reinforcement for any of us who may let our little heads arrange a fucked up date like that.

For me the saddest part is that he got no pussy.

[Njoean197]

How do we know the "numbers" are rising? You mean the information we are fed on a daily basis? Here and the rest of the world? We have become trained to assume what is put out there for us to read is facts. Requires no verification. It's in writing therefore it's true. I go to a web page and read that a certain amount of cases suddenly got recorded, and were supposed to believe it actually happened.

Hundreds and thousands of people just suddenly got sick, walked into a hospital, so they could be added to the stats. And then those numbers show up on a website or news program. It's read or heard and taken as verified facts. Hey ya'll the numbers are rising. Yeah, how did you find that out? I read it online, or saw it on CNN. Oh shit, then it must be true then. Thanks for telling me man. Now I'm getting scared. It's not safe. It's getting worse out here.

I feel the same way about the media as I did with dudes on their computers back in the states reporting to who ever would listen, how bad the DR is, and how much danger expats and stuck tourists are in because Dominicans are going to be robbing and killing tourists left and right just to survive. Just because it's said, reported or assumed doesn't make it true. Just because it comes from an authoritative like source doesn't make it fact either. Is it easy to manipulate people, when you can control what they believe? If cases are on the rise, are recoveries on the rise also? How come you don't hear much about that? Most people survive Covid-19. So much emphasis on cases supposedly rising. One thing just might over ride the other to a certain extent. Rant finished.

Official statistics have reported numbers of confirmed cases are rising through the roof in the United States and rising significantly in the DR. That is not up for debate, its fact. A person booking a flight and hotel has to take those numbers into consideration because those are the numbers government officials are probably going to have to form their travel and quarantine policies around.

Personally, I think governments and the media have over-reacted to this pandemic. I don't know a single person who has died or become seriously ill from it. The vast majority of people who have died from it were probably going to die within a few years anyway. Its a horrible thing to say, but its probably true. I think numbers are rising drastically also due to more testing as well as the opening of the economy.

Even though I think we have over-reacted to the Pandemic, I still feel Trump didn't due a sufficient job at keeping infections to a minimum. I also think if Barrack Obama or Hilary Clinton were President, the media would portray the Virus and Pandemic in a very different light. Its also quite possible Obama would have handled the situation better as he did with Hurricane Sandy and the Recession of 2008. I think Trump is probably a little paranoid from the constant harassment from the media and quasi-fake scandals such as Russia-Gate and being impeached without much evidence. I think any normal Politician would be after surviving such scandals. Regardless, he should take the Pandemic more serious and be more Presidential in his approach of how he handles these matters. I think the childlike fighting between him, the media, republicans, democrats, has really hurt the nation and lead to a more severe Pandemic. This in turn has lead to more countries to impose quarantines and travel restrictions. Those restrictions have fucked up my summer which was supposed to be spent annihilating Colombian pussy in Medellin. Sorry went on my own rant there. I m done.

Sidenote: I m cool with doing the Dominican Cupid / Party with chicas at my airbnb thing. Seems better than bending over backwards to fuck a half decent looking American white girl. God I miss Latin America.

[Wrx2005]

Dude guys were already convinced that people were starving and about to be living on the street before there was any pandemic. I can only assume that they convinced themselves of this since no chick has ever tried to pull that on me. As I said before, until I see skeletons in the gutters I will not believe folks are going around starving in DR. Hell, after this pandemic the chicks may come back bigger than before since they did not have their exercise of walking around the streets of Sosua. I got plenty of messages from chicks in DR during the pandemic, and not one was about them starving or needing money from me.

What I witnessed for the last 3 to 4 months was Dominicans / Haitians adjusting / surviving. And like you, have not seen or heard of any dead skeleton remains laying around due to starvation. Crime of course didn't go on vacation during the pandemic, but things for the most part was under control.

[Mr Enternational]

However he should have never put him self in that predicament in the 1st place. Having a meeting with the chica and two family members, is a no go. His story is reinforcement for any of us who may let our little heads arrange a fucked up date like that.

In the Philippines it is common for dudes to fall for that scam because they are afraid to miss out on the pussy. But chicks will usually bring along more than a mother and brother. We are talking 8-10 people they will bring along and expect the foreigner to pay.

Something like that happened to me at the beginning of the year in Brazil. There was a hairdresser chick that I had been talking to over a year, but whenever I was there our schedules never matched up. So this time she is down at one of the beach kiosks with a friend and wanted me to come meet up. They were already drinking when I got there. I did not want anything. They finished the drinks and paid and we left.

We were walking down the beach and they said how hungry they were. I told them if they went a couple streets away from the beach, food is much cheaper. They insisted on going to another kiosk and ordering a bunch of food and drinks. I ordered water. When the food came they kept trying to get me to eat with them. No that is okay. I am not hungry. When the bill came I paid for my water and the hairdresser chick tried to pay for the other stuff but her card was declined. So the friend (who was actually living in Italy and also a hairdresser) ended up paying with her card.

During the outing, I hit it off with the friend more than the hairdresser, so we had exchanged numbers and decided to hook up. The next day when I hit her up she told me that I was too cheap because I didn't pay for their stuff. Bih didn't nobody tell y'all to go to that expensive ass place and order all that shit you could not afford. I'm the one that tried to tell you to go to a cheap place remember. But it appears they will go anywhere and bring anybody if they think someone else is footing the bill. I can just imagine how many mfs they have pulled that one on. Them hoes had the wrong one that day!

[Wrx2005]

I am just scared with numbers rising, the DR Goes back into hibernation / Quarantine / Lockdown.

How do we know the "numbers" are rising? You mean the information we are fed on a daily basis? Here and the rest of the world? We have become trained to assume what is put out there for us to read is facts. Requires no verification. It's in writing therefore it's true. I go to a web page and read that a certain amount of cases suddenly got recorded, and were supposed to believe it actually happened.

Hundreds and thousands of people just suddenly got sick, walked into a hospital, so they could be added to the stats. And then those numbers show up on a website or news program. It's read or heard and taken as verified facts. Hey ya'll the numbers are rising. Yeah, how did you find that out? I read it online, or saw it on CNN. Oh shit, then it must be true then. Thanks for telling me man. Now I'm getting scared. It's not safe. It's getting worse out here.

I feel the same way about the media as I did with dudes on their computers back in the states reporting to who ever would listen, how bad the DR is, and how much danger expats and stuck tourists are in because Dominicans are going to be robbing and killing tourists left and right just to survive. Just because it's said, reported or assumed doesn't make it true. Just because it comes from an authoritative like source doesn't make it fact either. Is it easy to manipulate people, when you can control what they believe? If cases are on the rise, are recoveries on the rise also? How come you don't hear much about that? Most people survive Covid 19. So much emphasis on cases supposedly rising. One thing just might over ride the other to a certain extent. Rant finished.

[Mr Enternational]

Try to convince you that they don't know where their next meal is coming from. Meanwhile none of them stepped foot in Sosua the whole time there were no tourists, and we had a curfew.

Now all of a sudden they appear in Sosua and now need your exclusive help? Please don't fall for any of their sob strories and sad faces.

Dude guys were already convinced that people were starving and about to be living on the street before there was any pandemic. I can only assume that they convinced themselves of this since no chick has ever tried to pull that on me. As I said before, until I see skeletons in the gutters I will not believe folks are going around starving in DR. Hell, after this pandemic the chicks may come back bigger than before since they did not have their exercise of walking around the streets of Sosua. I got plenty of messages from chicks in DR during the pandemic, and not one was about them starving or needing money from me.

[Wrx2005]

Is Classicos and most other bars open until 10 pm? I saw Platinum Gym is back open. Booze, Gym, and Chicas is all a man really needs in life. Based on your report I am very close to booking for early August. I am just scared with numbers rising, the DR Goes back into hibernation / Quarantine / Lockdown.

No clubs in Sosua are open, YET. So forget about Clasico. Merengue is a bar, but it is not open either. Monger spots like Kings, Flip Flip and Tree House 2 (by Las Palmeras hotel) is open. Small bars like Plan be and Cheers is open. Bourbon Street in Ahnvee is open. Some restaurants on PC are open. Like Jolly Roger, Elfante Rojo, Matteos Sea Side. The restaurant across from Merengue is open. Margot restaurant is open. El Conde restaurant is open. I think the Germany restaurant on the highway is open. These are the main ones that tourists may visit. Aside from the bunch of spots open on the beach.

In case I am not clear. There is no night life as far as the club scene being open in Sosua, YET. Consider any bar that is open the closest you are going to get as far as anything resembling a club atmosphere. Casinos CLOSED. If businesses are supposed to close by 10, what does that represent to you? A good thing, or a bad thing? It's up to the individual.

[Njoean197]

I passed by just a few minutes ago. 1845 hrs Friday night July 10. Saw some nice looking chicas up in there. Some tables were chicas sitting by themselves. The chicas got the memo, some decent looking chicas have arrived. Unfortunately, the Politur Police are back in chase mode. At least from the chicas on the street reaction. Chicas running when they saw the pick up truck coming through Pedro Clisante. The chicas sitting up in Kings looked quite relaxed. I'm convinced, chicas here in the DR really value the tourist dollar. I took a couple of photos of Kings from the Dr Rosen street side, but for some reason could not get them to upload here. Oh well.

Is Classicos and most other bars open until 10 pm? I saw Platinum Gym is back open. Booze, Gym, and Chicas is all a man really needs in life. Based on your report I am very close to booking for early August. I am just scared with numbers rising, the DR Goes back into hibernation / Quarantine / Lockdown.

[YyzTravel]

I passed by just a few minutes ago. 1845 hrs Friday night July 10. Saw some nice looking chicas up in there. Some tables were chicas sitting by themselves. The chicas got the memo, some decent looking chicas have arrived. Unfortunately, the Politur Police are back in chase mode. At least from the chicas on the street reaction. Chicas running when they saw the pick up truck coming through Pedro Clisante. The chicas sitting up in Kings looked quite relaxed. I'm convinced, chicas here in the DR really value the tourist dollar. I took a couple of photos of Kings from the Dr Rosen street side, but for some reason could not get them to upload here. Oh well.

Thanks for the continuous updates here WRX. Looking forward to a trip sometime soon in Aug. Hoping Blackbeard's opens back up as well so I can hit them both while I'm there.