Medellin Reports

[Elvis 2008]

So, any info on the lockdown? Will it be back to pico y cedula? Should I stock-up on groceries, today?

One of my chicas goes to school in Medellin but lives in another part of Antioquia. Where she is, there has been a shutdown of all nonessential business until July 31 and a restriction on all nonessential movement. I do not know if that covers all of Antioquia. She told me that there has been an outbreak of Corona (I think she may have been hit by the virus herself) and there are no hospital beds open in her area.

Whether this covers Medellin, I do not know. I am just passing it along.

Now she just said the president extended the lockdown until July 31.

[JjBee62]

Yes there are a lot of cases in the USA. The problem is that the USA does a lot more testing then most other countrys so of course there is more cases I think what is most important is the number of deaths. Then again even that is not that great of a way to figure out what is really going on as there have been reports of false claims concerning deaths due to financial concerns.

I'm going to disagree on these 2 points.

If testing was 100% random you would need to test roughly 30% of the population before you could have an increase in number of positive results due solely to the number of tests. Even then, the increase would be small.

Start with a control group of 100.33 are infected. For every 3 tests, you should average one positive. These are all completely random. As your pool of untested shrinks, sometimes you're finding more than 1 of every 3, sometimes less. So once you've got about a third tested, you've established a reasonable idea of what more tests will show. Assuming no new infections. Whether you test 15 or all 100 you'll get about the same answer.

However, testing isn't completely random. First priority, people with symptoms. Now let's go back to the 100.18 have symptoms, they get tested and with 18 tests you've found 18 of the 33.7 others have symptoms, but are negative. With 25 tests, you have 18 positive results, indicating 72 infected people. Another 15 get tested, because they've been around someone who was infected. You get 7 more positive results. Now you've identified 25 positive results with 40 tests, still giving you a potential 72 (72.5) infected people. Add in more testing and the numbers keep dropping, until, after 100 tests, you find only 33.

Testing more people, won't find more cases, unless there are more cases to be found.

As for the financial incentive, can someone please show me the money? I understand there have been claims that there's extra financial compensation for hospitals who are willing to claim every death is COVID-19, but I haven't seen anyone showing the money. If someone is paying huge bounties for falsifying death certificates, it should show up somewhere. And I say huge, because what happens when someone proves their family member didn't die from COVID-19? Not only is there a significant payout, but it opens the floodgates. Every COVID-19 death becomes a potential million dollar settlement. That's an enormous risk.

Where does the money come from? Of course the easily debunked conspiracy theory is that Medicare and Medicaid are paying it. There are 2 significant problems with that source. First, those payments would only apply to people who are on Medicare it Medicaid. It would be rather suspicious if every person on Medicare suddenly started dying from COVID-19.

The other, more significant problem is that means Trump's own people are, apparently with Trump's approval, spending money in order to make Trump look bad. I have trouble believing that.

Now to the debunking.

Back when COVID-19 started causing problems, the Kaiser Family Foundation was asked to estimate the cost of the disease. They went back through Medicare records to determine the average cost for treatment of diseases requiring similar treatment. What was the final bill? How much for ICU? How much for a ventilator? Then they published their findings.

On April 8, on the Fox News show "The Ingraham Angle", Sen. Scott Jensen (R-MN) was interviewed and made the claim of extra payments, using the KFF numbers. However, those aren't extra payments. Those are the estimated costs.

In addition, Medicare doesn't pay hospitals extra for deaths. "Patient didn't survive? Here's another $10,000 for your trouble. "

The number of positive cases can't double from increased random testing, unless the number of positive people has also doubled. The number of deaths is not because the Trump administration is trying to make the Trump administration look bad.

[Knowledge]

I say a lot of very ridiculous things on this site but wow, this discussion of bribing an immigration agent to get into Colombia is about as silly as it gets. The chance of even reaching a border which you are not authorized to cross is slim.

I would add that attempting a bribe at the airport, at this time, might be a long shot anyway.

When they're letting everyone in and you're trying to get them to overlook something, the agent at the kiosk probably has the authority to make the call.

However, if nobody is allowed in, I doubt if the guy directing everyone to the isolation area, where they have to wait until the next outbound flight, has the authority to let one guy in. It would be rather obvious.

You've (SJobs) got the money to try another approach. Figure out what you need to either set up a co-location office for your company in Medellin, or to buy a party penthouse in Medellin. Either one and you can qualify for visa which after 5 years you can turn into a resident visa.

Once you've got your plan on paper, go to a Colombian Consulate. Explain why you need a special travel permit (without mentioning 18 year old pussy) and mention you understand you'll probably have to pay extra for the permit, pay for extra testing and quarantine.

[Knowledge]

Hi Tall man,

Based on your assessment it sounds like most of you Dominican experience is in Santo Domingo and Sosua. Am I wrong? You would find quite a bit more diversity among Dominicans and foreigners than what you described in places like San Jose de Ocoa, Constanza (large Japanese-Dominican community), Salcedo, Azua.

For reference I live in Medellin for 3 years but have made one 2 week trip to the DR both in the Sue and SD about 3 years ago, enjoyed my time in the DR but all in all it is different.

The biggest difference is the chicas, in the DR the vast majority are blacks, wait a moment The Tall Man loves black women and even here in Colombia will at times travel to other areas to get a taste of the black Colombians, so lots of love for them, here in Medellin you have such a range of color which makes it interesting for a guy like me.

Just know that in the DR the majority of mongers are in fact black gringos from the US, just my experience, in my hotel in the Sue it was about 80% black mongers, BUT they treated me this Tall White guy really cool, danced and partied side by side my gringo brothers, all in good fun and respect.

So as Orgasmico states yes you can have a good time in either location just subtle differences..

[Knowledge]

Pico and schedule never went away. It hasn't been enforced since late March but it likely will be again starting tomorrow. Rappi will still bring you anything you need but you would need to stock up on anything you must bring to the house personally. It is scheduled to last 2 weeks and applies to Centro only. I doubt you will notice it.

Wifey got all excited, yesterday, as she got a message from a girl that ignored and blocked her, weeks ago. I guess her girlfriend took her phone and deleted everything. So, she agrees to come over, and shows up at 9 p. REALLY REALLY cute. Spinner, nose ring, tongue ring, nipple ring, tight little body, long long dark hair.

It was an overall fantastic night, with both chicas all over each other, sopping wet, orgasming non-stop. We had a lot of fun. Condom with the special friend, but I popped 3 x, and tried for a 4th. I had already banged Wifey in the afternoon, so there wasn't much left in the tank after Friday night and a pre-pop.

300 k and she we here from about 9p-2a. I went to bed, and when I woke up early this morning, Wifey comes walking down the hallway. She usually can't sleep and ends up cleaning or doing whatever to occupy the time. Well, she says the girl got in a fight with her girlfriend and came back. I had kind of been telling Wifey to be careful because I don't want to leave in September and read a story about how she got killed by some jealous ex-girlfriend. Wifey has had her eye on this girl for 10 months, since they met at a mutual friend's house, and vice versa. So, it made for an amazing night, but I'm hoping we can avoid the drama.

[SlapShot10]

Wifey got all excited, yesterday, as she got a message from a girl that ignored and blocked her, weeks ago. I guess her girlfriend took her phone and deleted everything. So, she agrees to come over, and shows up at 9 p. REALLY REALLY cute. Spinner, nose ring, tongue ring, nipple ring, tight little body, long long dark hair.

It was an overall fantastic night, with both chicas all over each other, sopping wet, orgasming non-stop. We had a lot of fun. Condom with the special friend, but I popped 3 x, and tried for a 4th. I had already banged Wifey in the afternoon, so there wasn't much left in the tank after Friday night and a pre-pop.

300 k and she we here from about 9p-2a. I went to bed, and when I woke up early this morning, Wifey comes walking down the hallway. She usually can't sleep and ends up cleaning or doing whatever to occupy the time. Well, she says the girl got in a fight with her girlfriend and came back. I had kind of been telling Wifey to be careful because I don't want to leave in September and read a story about how she got killed by some jealous ex-girlfriend. Wifey has had her eye on this girl for 10 months, since they met at a mutual friend's house, and vice versa. So, it made for an amazing night, but I'm hoping we can avoid the drama. Anyway, they're upstairs sleeping, as I type this. I have to imagine they went at it late into the morning, as I was sleeping.

So, any info on the lockdown? Will it be back to pico y cedula? Should I stock-up on groceries, today?

[The Tall Man]

Appreciate the insight. I just gave a quick glance on the DR thread and did a roughly comparison of the number of posts there. Good to know that it is night and day difference compare to Medellin. I have been to Costa Rica many times, I don't consider the mongering scene in Costa Rica anywhere near Medellin. I guess I will focus my energy on how to make it through that damn border if it doesn't open in September.

I've lived in both countries for multiple years. I don't compare the 2 because they are different but one can have a great time in both.

For reference I live in Medellin for 3 years but have made one 2 week trip to the DR both in the Sue and SD about 3 years ago, enjoyed my time in the DR but all in all it is different.

The biggest difference is the chicas, in the DR the vast majority are blacks, wait a moment The Tall Man loves black women and even here in Colombia will at times travel to other areas to get a taste of the black Colombians, so lots of love for them, here in Medellin you have such a range of color which makes it interesting for a guy like me.

Just know that in the DR the majority of mongers are in fact black gringos from the US, just my experience, in my hotel in the Sue it was about 80% black mongers, BUT they treated me this Tall White guy really cool, danced and partied side by side my gringo brothers, all in good fun and respect.

So as Orgasmico states yes you can have a good time in either location just subtle differences.

Now this being Sunday July the 12th and with the new restrictions being implemented for Colombia tomorrow I need to get my sorry-ass down to centro and get some numbers and see what I can find before the new restriction are imposed.

Much love and respect to all!

The Tall Man.

[Orgasmico]

Not sure what the border immigration situation is but the FKK clubs In Switzerland are open now. Not Medellin prices at a heart stopping USD $140/ half hour. But guaranteed slim pretty girls with guaranteed service including DFK and BBBJ.

I was in Zurich and spent 4 X as much at McDonalds. Everything there is expensive but people make good money.

[Steve 9696]

Haven't checked the board much due to lock down. If I can't fly there why tease myself. I read the last 10 pages though. So I'll get on with it. Let's suppose Medellin rely opens up flights again in September. From what I'm reading all the bars and clubs will be closed still. As a tourist, that sucks! I have hundreds if chicas there but enjoy "finding" new ones in a relaxed drinking environment. Does that even go on anymore or is that shipped sailed until God knows when. Whats the new environment shaping up to be like upon flights opening? And the million dollar question, if Colombia will take a year to recover and its not worth the trip immediately, where do you think will be the next city or country to take the reigns. I'm not into Asian women or 18 hour+ flights. Coming from Ohio. Any recommendations baring an American lock down.

Not sure what the border immigration situation is but the FKK clubs In Switzerland are open now. Not Medellin prices at a heart stopping USD $140/ half hour. But guaranteed slim pretty girls with guaranteed service including DFK and BBBJ.

[Surfer500]

I would add that attempting a bribe at the airport, at this time, might be a long shot anyway.

When they're letting everyone in and you're trying to get them to overlook something, the agent at the kiosk probably has the authority to make the call.

However, if nobody is allowed in, I doubt if the guy directing everyone to the isolation area, where they have to wait until the next outbound flight, has the authority to let one guy in. It would be rather obvious.

You've (SJobs) got the money to try another approach. Figure out what you need to either set up a co-location office for your company in Medellin, or to buy a party penthouse in Medellin. Either one and you can qualify for visa which after 5 years you can turn into a resident visa.

Once you've got your plan on paper, go to a Colombian Consulate. Explain why you need a special travel permit (without mentioning 18 year old pussy) and mention you understand you'll probably have to pay extra for the permit, pay for extra testing and quarantine..

Technically speaking what your proposing is possible but might require a different approach to get him back to Medellin, I believe SJobs could obtain a resident's visa while in the United States which would probably allow him to enter the Country, however it would be complicated to do from the USA, and might take several months. He would not have to wait five years to obtain residency but would receive it immediately upon issuance, however he would need to make an investment, such as buying a Penthouse, it has to be at least 650 times the Colombian minimum wage to qualify or approximately $ 160,000 USD. He would also need to get this money into the Country, which is not a simple procedure as the money would need to be transferred thru a third party and documented with the Colombian government to obtain the residency permit. He would also need a Colombian attorney to prepare all the paperwork and also act as an escrow company for the real estate transaction as they don't exist in Colombia. The only glitch might be obtaining the Cedula, I don't know if Colombian embassy's issue those in the USA, as there is a requirement that it is obtained within a few weeks of obtaining the residency permit and is processed in Bogota.

[Orgasmico]

If you are basing Colombia and the Dominican Republic based on number of posts. All I can say is "WOW!

I've lived in both countries for multiple years. I don't compare the 2 because they are different but one can have a great time in both.

[Surfer500]

With all due respect, repeatedly describing how dire and hopeless the current situation is for Americans is also foolish. When I run my company, I always encourage my employees to think outside of the box when facing a difficult problem, in challenging times, an outranges idea is better than a sad depiction of how things cannot be done.

The way I see it, if I can make it to the border of Colombia, I have a chance of getting in, regardless how I get there. If the US flight is canceled but the Canadian flight is open, I will hop to Canada is a heart beat. If I can manage to get on a plane to Medellin that only carries Colombia nationals on 9/1, I will do it. I don't need a fake passport to do it, I just need to be in the same boarding terminal and observe if there is an opportunity to sneak in, it must to a direct flight though, so I might have to go to Florida first. If the first attempt at the airport didn't work, I will take notes and analyze the situation, it's up to me to create the solution.

Everyday there are a ton of people sneaking in and out of the border regardless of the virus or trump's wall. Factually, we know this is a problem that is easier than landing a man on mars or inventing the time machine. I'm sure people can think of a million ways how I can fail, but I only need a single working approach. The world is overflowing with discouraging news, a little creative thinking won't do us much harm.

You obviously sound successful, however sneaking into Countries is not in your wheelhouse unless you work for the CIA, and fraught with peril if attempted. I think you have a snowballs chance in hell in pulling this off.

[LoveItHere69]

I'm not trolling here, I have bribed custom officers in Kenya and was asked money by officials in Russia and India. In some part of the world, if you missed a few required vaccinations to enter the country, 40-100 dollars will do the trick, what's the bribing culture like in Medellin?

I have low esteem and do not make friends easily. If you visit then I will know exactly where to find you for the next 6 months to 2 years. Please come soon!

If you are basing Colombia and the Dominican Republic based on number of posts. All I can say is "WOW! If you basing it on what you read then all I can say is "WOW! Again. Truly amazing you are.

In the case of Candelaria (El Centro) quarantine will be like March, total restriction on movement from this Monday and for two weeks, closure of trade (except supplies, pharmacies and essential items).

Joy to the world I get to experience a lock down in Barranquilla and now Medellin. Just what I was hoping for. I like to try different food, places, and women. Not different ways to imprison me.

[JjBee62]

Not in the least bit, but beggars can't be choosers (don't know why they can't). What in the DR thread makes them seem similar? There is nothing about one that reminds me of the other; not even the language, and it is supposedly the same. Medellin = New York, USA. DR = Pueblita, Mexico. Night and day. Medellin is a big ass city and has 38,059 posts here. Sosua is a small town that you can walk everywhere and has 2 traffic lights on the main highway and has 32,015 posts here; while the capital and biggest city Santo Domingo has not even half as many posts.

I don't know what the scene for high roller mongering would be like in the DR. Maybe in Santiago you could, with some local assistance, setup in a penthouse and cycle through a few different girls every night. It wouldn't be the same as Medellin, but might work.

As a direct comparison, it's Hunts Point vs Las Vegas.

As someone else suggested, if the sex vacation services in the DR are open for business, they might be an option. The only one I recall from my research was Club Fantasy Island in Boca Chica. If it's still in business I'd start there.

[John Gault]

Man, my guess is that you would have very high chance to end up in prison if you try to bribe. Colombia is not the same as 30 years ago. What's more, you are speaking about the immigration officers at a major international airport, not a lonely post in the jungle between Colombia and Peru. I am trying to imagine the scenery at Medellin immigration with a "gringo" hinting he can pay a big amount of money to be let in, the face of the officer, and the next steps of the adventure.
I hope you will not want to try to demonstrate I am wrong.
By the way, when countries open the borders, the last country to be allowed will be USA. It is totally out of control there, and unfortunately things will not improve in a short time, unless very tight measures will be taken there. My guess is that it will not happen before hospitals will go over capacity and more people will have to suffer lack of assistance. Reality comes to knock at the door even to those who build a virtual personal world.

Yes there are a lot of cases in the USA. The problem is that the USA does a lot more testing then most other countrys so of course there is more cases I think what is most important is the number of deaths. Then again even that is not that great of a way to figure out what is really going on as there have been reports of false claims concerning deaths due to financial concerns.