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  1. #48334
    Quote Originally Posted by Crocodilexp  [View Original Post]
    Back in the old times when decent girls were plentiful and most were asking for 1000 baht, I shared your opinion too, I would have rather not negotiated in order not to spoil the mood. Was easy to simply pass up the ones who were asking for too much (and feels good too).

    These days, however, doable girls on Sukhumvit are exceedingly rare, and most would quote way too much money off the bat. A typical one-and-done session is just not worth more than 1000 baht for me. No option now except to negotiate, but I prefer to throw out my price first ("is 1000 ok? Good old anchoring technique, and let her figure it out. Being sweet helps, a few times I exchanged Line with the girl and was apologetic about only being able to offer 1000, but she can always send me a message if she changes her mind (or if I win the lottery, I pay her 10 k, 555). Many do tend to change their mind after 30 min of watching zero customers walk by.

    Most of the Thai working girls over the last few years are not the brightest of bulbs and set in their ways. They're more likely to just instinctively continue whatever they were doing before Covid, rather than reassess the situation and adapt. Business logic would dictate that they would prefer long-time too (for a small extra fee, or even just for a tip and prospect of repeat business), as chances of getting more than one customer in an evening are almost nil. They tend not to do this.
    I find it difficult to find any decent looking girl for less than 1500 lately. Whatever on the streets or online. At the end I usually give in for 1500 and mostly it's just a very mediocre service. My only regular moved to ChiangMai too.

  2. #48333
    Quote Originally Posted by Madmax33  [View Original Post]
    I always believe that if I have to negotiate, service would be lower quality.
    Back in the old times when decent girls were plentiful and most were asking for 1000 baht, I shared your opinion too, I would have rather not negotiated in order not to spoil the mood. Was easy to simply pass up the ones who were asking for too much (and feels good too).

    These days, however, doable girls on Sukhumvit are exceedingly rare, and most would quote way too much money off the bat. A typical one-and-done session is just not worth more than 1000 baht for me. No option now except to negotiate, but I prefer to throw out my price first ("is 1000 ok? Good old anchoring technique, and let her figure it out. Being sweet helps, a few times I exchanged Line with the girl and was apologetic about only being able to offer 1000, but she can always send me a message if she changes her mind (or if I win the lottery, I pay her 10 k, 555). Many do tend to change their mind after 30 min of watching zero customers walk by.

    I know situation is bad for them, but they should also consider that people here for now can be kind of regular customers and I don't mind if I had a good time to give a good tip.
    Most of the Thai working girls over the last few years are not the brightest of bulbs and set in their ways. They're more likely to just instinctively continue whatever they were doing before Covid, rather than reassess the situation and adapt. Business logic would dictate that they would prefer long-time too (for a small extra fee, or even just for a tip and prospect of repeat business), as chances of getting more than one customer in an evening are almost nil. They tend not to do this.

  3. #48332
    Last night went out again to see if it was busier than Tuesday night, but as it was a bit raining, the scene was about the same. However passing front of Sofitel I noticed this skinny girl walking and looking around her. I stopped and she noticed me. She asked 1000 thb ST and 2000 thb LT. I took her and we went in my home. She is very skinny, but surprisingly still has some nice tits. Her name Toyjoy (that's not from me I swear) 33 yo, I would say quite cute face with beautiful eyes, english close to 0, but she keep smiling like an innocent. I had that fantasy to fuck one skinny like that, lucky me found her. Going to shower she takes the time, start to be playful, I like that! Provide her a DATY and she started to be quite wet. BJ is just OK, she cannot go too deep. Then she came on me and I felt it to be deep in her. She start riding me, we change some position and tried to finger her ass. She doesn't say no, so took some oil and lub and tried to get in. I am not sure she does it very often, but she let me in, slowly, not so deep, but still. I stopped quickly as I saw she was not enjoying it and get back to her tight pussy. Then after a good session, I COF. Shower and called her a taxi. The plus plus that I liked then was While waiting the taxi, she was lay down on the sofa and started to rub my dick with her foot. Asked her for another round, she smiled and say yes, which in normal time I would have been back at it right away but got a bit tired. Damage 1000+tips, she is nice girl, I took her whatsapp and will certainly call her back.

  4. #48331

    Pathum Thani, Soi Pan Sook

    Hi Zeus,

    Did you ever find out the soi?

    I live up that way.

    Cheers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus9  [View Original Post]
    I just read a coconuts article mentioning this area in Pathum Thani. A couple girls got fined for not wearing a mask while offering boom boom in the street to passing cars, 555! Apparently that area is known for that. It seems like a fun trip to me, but I'm not sure of the exact location of the street. Soi Pan Sook (translates to sharing) is a local nickname. So I have no idea of the real street name. Is anybody aware of where it could be, or has been to this area? I'm close to Pathum Thani. So I'the be happy to report more if I can find it.

  5. #48330
    Thank you, I do not know any GFE females as I live in the suburbs sorry.

    Quote Originally Posted by Buscar  [View Original Post]
    QLee keeps getting banned by ThaiFriendly. So she's not on there right now. She's happy to meet for same price listed before (2500 for 3 hrs, though will stay longer if you keep giving her stiff dick).

    She's a very friendly, naughty, sweet, punctual, calm, horny lady. Will happily do almost anything you want. She has an MBA, no kids, comes from a middle class family, but does this because she likes it (mostly cam now, but definitely wants to meet more men in real life). Not young or skinny, but pics are accurate / recent.

    I can give contact info to members who message me in exchange for a contact who does GFE / PSE for a reasonable price.

  6. #48329
    I have used Lee garden hotel once in soi onnut.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jean428  [View Original Post]
    Just arrived, back after 5 months.

    Can someone confirm that short time hotels are open as usual? For example those in Suk soi 7. I won't have much time to look for one so any info is appreciated.

    In addition, are there short time hotels in On Nut area?

    Thanks in advance.

    J.

  7. #48328
    I still find interesting how girls in the street, meeting apps keep asking for crazy amount. Yesterday around 1 am I couldn't sleep and got quite horny, so I took my back and had a drive through Sukhumvit and Soi nana. Not much freelancer in Nana, I believe maybe because of the PH, but then near to the new Hyatt and Sofitel, I talked to 2 girls, one asking 2500 thb for ST the other one 2000 thb also for ST. I even didn't bother negotiating, I always believe that if I have to negotiate, service would be lower quality. I know situation is bad for them, but they should also consider that people here for now can be kind of regular customers and I don't mind if I had a good time to give a good tip. Since the lockdown I met some freelance on Tinder and Soi Nana. 4 of them asked me first time for 2000 thb for w shot and 500 thb more if anal for 3 of them. I had great time with them, they are nice to talk with, funny, very pretty, naughty. Finally I keep meeting each of them once / twice a month depending on my horny mood. They are happy each time I contact them I sometimes invite them for a drink or a dinner without having sex, just to bring them out having some fun and they give it well back later in the bed when I call them. This is for me the way they should think, but I believe it is easier to accuse the Fatality of not having customer than considering they don't do it the right way.

    Also, yesterday I stopped at Bilboard, had a soda water as I am on a non alcool, no sugar, for the next 2 weeks, and they charge it 150 thb. Seriously for a fucking soda water. At the end, I drink it and left quickly, didn't want to spend time with girl trying to get a LD that would cost way too much and especially knowing I would not take her as I rarely take any Agogo girl. After living 8 years in SEA including 3 in Bkk I have to say that they don't really know how to drive a business and I would not being surprise price goes up when borders will reopen, this is already what happen in 2014 after the fights between red and yellow

    Quote Originally Posted by Franciscass  [View Original Post]
    Absolutely the street scene is mostly sad and depressing. There is a palpable sense of desperation out there that is almost tantamount to begging. I avoid eye contact to minimize feelings of helplessness but occasionally give a couple hundred baht to some of the older women, at least they can eat for a few days.

    Now gogos are a different proposition. While aware the prettiest girls always worked there I wasn't a fan before. Over priced drinks, too crowded, a need to keep an eye on your bill, complications choosing a girl with competition for the best looking girls from younger Asians and self-styled track stars with so called game, interfering pushy mamasans, obligatory lady drinks and the need for price and service negotiations why bother..

  8. #48327
    Quote Originally Posted by Jean428  [View Original Post]
    Just arrived, back after 5 months.

    Can someone confirm that short time hotels are open as usual? For example those in Suk soi 7. I won't have much time to look for one so any info is appreciated.

    In addition, are there short time hotels in On Nut area?

    Thanks in advance.

    J.
    I have been offered ST meeting in Lee Garden hotel On-nut.

    I live too far away so didn't go.

  9. #48326
    Quote Originally Posted by Franciscass  [View Original Post]
    For those of us fortunate enough to be here now I would suggest putting nostalgic reminiscing away for a while and enjoy what a year from now will also become another nostalgic reminiscence.
    Imo those who reminisce about the past don't have much going on in their lives right now. I have a married friend who has nothing but domestic living with his wife and kids now and he continually keeps reminiscing about 20 years ago when we were going to nightclubs every night picking up civilian girls.

    it is human nature to reminisce about the past. Take a few minutes and read the archives on this board. Guys were complaining in what is now the Good Old Days about how it sucked and was better in the days prior to the Good Old Days!

    Since I'm currently stuck outside looking in I say that I sure do miss the Good Old Days of 2016!

  10. #48325
    Quote Originally Posted by Crocodilexp  [View Original Post]
    In the end, I must admit I feel rather conflicted and uneasy about how desperate the girls are. Refusing an eager offer makes me feel borderline guilty when I know another punter won't be along anytime soon. A few freelancers have even called out to me as I walked along with a girl already in tow. Unless you're blind or drunk out of your mind, the vibe is not exactly fun. Misery and desperation are not fun. Still, with the whole world burning, I'm happy to be stuck in Bangkok rather than elsewhere.
    Absolutely the street scene is mostly sad and depressing. There is a palpable sense of desperation out there that is almost tantamount to begging. I avoid eye contact to minimize feelings of helplessness but occasionally give a couple hundred baht to some of the older women, at least they can eat for a few days.

    Now gogos are a different proposition. While aware the prettiest girls always worked there I wasn't a fan before. Over priced drinks, too crowded, a need to keep an eye on your bill, complications choosing a girl with competition for the best looking girls from younger Asians and self-styled track stars with so called game, interfering pushy mamasans, obligatory lady drinks and the need for price and service negotiations why bother.

    Not anymore, not since they reopened. Competition now pretty much nonexistent unless ET is on the prowl, drink prices down on most of Cowboy and the cutest girls not only available but eager to go with you at reduced rates and a willingness to genuinely take care of you not just in word but in deed.

    I have been here over 20 years, yes back in the good days the scene was different, cheaper, more accommodating to farangs but that was then. For those of us fortunate enough to be here now I would suggest putting nostalgic reminiscing away for a while and enjoy what a year from now will also become another nostalgic reminiscence.

  11. #48324

    Enviable downside I suppose until faced with it

    Quote Originally Posted by Crocodilexp  [View Original Post]
    The Bangkok scene is exceptional now because there are so few punters, and zero prospect of more coming in anytime soon. That makes the remaining women more desperate to snag a customer, and perhaps even perform well in hope of a repeat. At least it holds for those who are not too spaced out to think.

    About a week ago I had a freelancer near Soi 19 for 500 baht, at her suggestion. I'm a stingy bastard but even I wouldn't dare offer under 1000 on Sukhumvit in order not to be offensive (in Pattaya it's ok). She wasn't a hag, a cute and clean 35 year old with no tattoos or fake anything, albeit on the plump side. Repeated a few days later too. At that price, and with good service, it's a no-brainer.

    Unfortunately, quality is no better than it was before Covid, with numbers reduced. The scene isn't a patch on the mid-2000's when lower Sukhumvit was full of genuinely attractive women, some of them part-timers, many new to the scene, looking to score a 1000 baht plus maybe a boyfriend / sponsor. There are no desperate young office girls or university students, not even fresh farm girls coming back to the scene. It's the same old not-too-desirable Thais who can't even imagine themselves doing any other job, mostly dregs with a few borderline acceptable ones thrown in. One surprise are 10-20 stranded Vietnamese, some of whom are a well above Thais in looks, and a few still have that girl-next-door cuteness, not hardened with ugly tats.

    I get an impression that a higher percentage of girls choose to be freelancers, since bars don't offer much in terms of job security or an advantage in getting customers. That suits me just fine as I'm not a drinker and it's easy for them to accept the 1000 baht that a session is worth to me, without the peer pressure or inflated expectations within bars.

    To summarize, it's easy to get plenty of attention as well as decent service for not much money at all on Sukhumvit these days, IF you can manage to pick a girl among the not especially impressive offerings. On several evenings, I just couldn't being myself to choose, despite a few hours of browsing.

    In the end, I must admit I feel rather conflicted and uneasy about how desperate the girls are. Refusing an eager offer makes me feel borderline guilty when I know another punter won't be along anytime soon. A few freelancers have even called out to me as I walked along with a girl already in tow. Unless you're blind or drunk out of your mind, the vibe is not exactly fun. Misery and desperation are not fun. Still, with the whole world burning, I'm happy to be stuck in Bangkok rather than elsewhere.
    Thank you for touching on an aspect of the current conditions I have been wondering how to express here or whether to express it at all; the lingering buzzkill of saying No every day and night to ten times more needy ladies than I have time, money and ejaculate to help. And, as you point out, it isn't as though the overwhelming options in this perceived "Pecker Paradise" are hot young babes eager to satify our every sexual desire. Most are hard cases in terms of looks, age, demeanor and, little doubt in my mind for my requirements, service levels and skills.

    Where it has effected me the most is among my favorites who for months before the lockdown were already hitting all bases for me in every department and I was delighted to have them on call for a great low cost if not free LT any time I wasn't finding exactly what I wanted in a new hunt.

    During normal times I might not choose to see any one of them but once every 2-3 weeks. And they didn't pester me very much in between because they were busy with other expat regulars here and there, too.

    But NOW most of those other expats got caught outside the Thai borders on business or family issues, there are virtually no new and acceptable options for those favorites so I am in the position of picking and choosing who to help survive every week from among a stable of honeys, all of whom have certainly earned and deserve my loyalty.

    The book and movie "Sophie's Choice" comes to mind.

    And how to squeeze in the cute early 20s freebies I have been enjoying every few days and who I sure as hell don't want to "break up" with now?

    Add to that dilemma my personal interest to get out there and experience more and new girls as well as do my part to encourage a MUCH higher level of proactively offered service from the better looking girls in the usual venues we'd find them in around here to hopefully markedly improve the overall ongoing scene for me and for the eventual returning punters after more and more flights are resumed and it is not as much 24/7 fun as many on the outside might understandably imagine it to be.

  12. #48323
    Quote Originally Posted by Crocodilexp  [View Original Post]
    The Bangkok scene is exceptional now because there are so few punters, and zero prospect of more coming in anytime soon. That makes the remaining women more desperate to snag a customer, and perhaps even perform well in hope of a repeat. At least it holds for those who are not too spaced out to think.

    About a week ago I had a freelancer near Soi 19 for 500 baht, at her suggestion. I'm a stingy bastard but even I wouldn't dare offer under 1000 on Sukhumvit in order not to be offensive (in Pattaya it's ok). She wasn't a hag, a cute and clean 35 year old with no tattoos or fake anything, albeit on the plump side. Repeated a few days later too. At that price, and with good service, it's a no-brainer.

    Unfortunately, quality is no better than it was before Covid, with numbers reduced. The scene isn't a patch on the mid-2000's when lower Sukhumvit was full of genuinely attractive women, some of them part-timers, many new to the scene, looking to score a 1000 baht plus maybe a boyfriend / sponsor. There are no desperate young office girls or university students, not even fresh farm girls coming back to the scene. It's the same old not-too-desirable Thais who can't even imagine themselves doing any other job, mostly dregs with a few borderline acceptable ones thrown in. One surprise are 10-20 stranded Vietnamese, some of whom are a well above Thais in looks, and a few still have that girl-next-door cuteness, not hardened with ugly tats.

    I get an impression that a higher percentage of girls choose to be freelancers, since bars don't offer much in terms of job security or an advantage in getting customers. That suits me just fine as I'm not a drinker and it's easy for them to accept the 1000 baht that a session is worth to me, without the peer pressure or inflated expectations within bars.
    I think a lot of the Hotter girls do it because they can, not because they are desperate.

    Then the rest 1,000 and below girls. They are desperate.

    Come on. Too many of us Plump means Fat. Fat means Mai Pen Rai.

  13. #48322
    Quote Originally Posted by Franciscass  [View Original Post]
    As to the local mongering scene it's about as good as it can get.
    The Bangkok scene is exceptional now because there are so few punters, and zero prospect of more coming in anytime soon. That makes the remaining women more desperate to snag a customer, and perhaps even perform well in hope of a repeat. At least it holds for those who are not too spaced out to think.

    About a week ago I had a freelancer near Soi 19 for 500 baht, at her suggestion. I'm a stingy bastard but even I wouldn't dare offer under 1000 on Sukhumvit in order not to be offensive (in Pattaya it's ok). She wasn't a hag, a cute and clean 35 year old with no tattoos or fake anything, albeit on the plump side. Repeated a few days later too. At that price, and with good service, it's a no-brainer.

    Unfortunately, quality is no better than it was before Covid, with numbers reduced. The scene isn't a patch on the mid-2000's when lower Sukhumvit was full of genuinely attractive women, some of them part-timers, many new to the scene, looking to score a 1000 baht plus maybe a boyfriend / sponsor. There are no desperate young office girls or university students, not even fresh farm girls coming back to the scene. It's the same old not-too-desirable Thais who can't even imagine themselves doing any other job, mostly dregs with a few borderline acceptable ones thrown in. One surprise are 10-20 stranded Vietnamese, some of whom are a well above Thais in looks, and a few still have that girl-next-door cuteness, not hardened with ugly tats.

    I get an impression that a higher percentage of girls choose to be freelancers, since bars don't offer much in terms of job security or an advantage in getting customers. That suits me just fine as I'm not a drinker and it's easy for them to accept the 1000 baht that a session is worth to me, without the peer pressure or inflated expectations within bars.

    To summarize, it's easy to get plenty of attention as well as decent service for not much money at all on Sukhumvit these days, IF you can manage to pick a girl among the not especially impressive offerings. On several evenings, I just couldn't being myself to choose, despite a few hours of browsing.

    In the end, I must admit I feel rather conflicted and uneasy about how desperate the girls are. Refusing an eager offer makes me feel borderline guilty when I know another punter won't be along anytime soon. A few freelancers have even called out to me as I walked along with a girl already in tow. Unless you're blind or drunk out of your mind, the vibe is not exactly fun. Misery and desperation are not fun. Still, with the whole world burning, I'm happy to be stuck in Bangkok rather than elsewhere.

  14. #48321
    Most of them are open as the girls are back in Agogo and street. I have been to one in soi4 price was still the same

    Quote Originally Posted by Jean428  [View Original Post]
    Just arrived, back after 5 months.

    Can someone confirm that short time hotels are open as usual? For example those in Suk soi 7. I won't have much time to look for one so any info is appreciated.

    In addition, are there short time hotels in On Nut area?

    Thanks in advance.

    J.

  15. #48320

    My Two Cents

    No local infections here for over 2 months meaning if reliable no possibility of Covid 19 reemergence unless it comes from outside. Problem is the economy is in ICU with a less than promising prognosis. Reality check, they have no choice but to start to reopen and that is what is happening slowly but surely. Already businesses that depend on low cost migrant labor from adjoining countries are being accommodated by allowing thousands back in with what seems like less than strict testing and quarantine arrangements. Medical bubbles, film crews, elite card holders, work visa holders, those with family members and oddball military and diplomatic groups are either here or on their way. Plans are already in place for limited numbers of tourists from some Asian countries where the virus is contained. When they will get around to allowing visiting farangs back in is I feel still a ways off and only then with pretty restrictive conditions. That said once the rest of the world is opening up to tourists it's unlikely Thailand will stay closed.

    As to the local mongering scene it's about as good as it can get. A trip Sunday night down Cowboy was embarrassing in how many hands were dragging me hither and thither. Visited half a dozen shops, Crazy horse was a bummer, usual irritating hustle from servers and the ladies and a less than attractive line up plus a 170 tab for a beer. Best was Baccara, 90 baht beers and some real cuties more than eager to show their love, 230 lady drinks and an asking price of 3000ST dropped without me asking to 2000 before I headed on. Ended up with a more seasoned but attractive 30 year old from Country Road. Others may disagree but for me I feel like a kid in a candy store just after I got my pocket money.

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