Hong Kong Club Reports

[NormalAsianKid]

Went to HK last night around midnight. Was back to what it use to be on the 7th floor but they actually opened up a couple more rooms to make it bigger. Still way too packed though with no place to sit and constantly having waiters push you aside to deliver their drinks. Left after a lap around since it was too crowded. I'll check it out again a different day.

Captain solo, what time do they start? All day doesn't literally mean 8 am does it?

[Dg8787]

Speaking from experience, the kid IS American, all they need to do is go to the American consulate and apply for a consular certificate of birth.

There certain qualifying requirements for child born abroad. Best to look them up.

[Bbond]

The issue now is that the kid has a demonstrably true American citizen father. Somebody can correct me here, but I believe he's entitled to apply for American citizenship, no? I think he only has so much time to do it? I'm not sure he's interested, but I told mom to tell him he needs to see a lawyer.

Speaking from experience, the kid IS American, all they need to do is go to the American consulate and apply for a consular certificate of birth.

[Phordphan]

I was pretty much under the impression that any girl in a foreign country that becomes pregnant with a gringo's child can locate some type of women's aid society or female help organization that aids them in this sort of thing. They find the guy and file a formal complaint somehow. I don't know the specific details but if a chica is smart enough she can do what is necessary and it can come back to you.

I think the days of US Servicemen getting foreign women pregnant then leaving the country forever never to return or help has been ironed out somehow. I can't imagine this being the norm these days without repercussions.

Agreed. The girl has to be smart enough, and have the "sticktoitivness" (as mom used to say) to force the issue, and continually follow up. Unfortunately, it sometimes also takes money, depending on the country and the other assistance that may be available.

I "helped" a Thai friend of a friend once. I spoke to a lawyer and simply found out her rights. The guy in question was from England, and he skipped as soon as he found out that she was pregnant. The lawyer said he could be forced to pay support but establishing paternity had to come first. At the time it was difficult to force him to submit to a DNA test. England cooperates with other countries, but the process was lengthy and relatively expensive. Hard to do for a poor farm girl working in Pattaya. Maybe not so hard for a middle-class Thai lady. In any case, I think it would be somewhat easier for a Mexican to win support from a gringo.

[Phordphan]

Paternity must be proven before California would enforce the child support, no?

Yes, paternity will need to be established. I believe the court can compel the alleged father to provide a DNA sample.

I was deliberately vague earlier. I don't want to give too many details. But in her case she was married to the father, an American citizen. That probably made things a bit easier. Regardless, as Artisttyp said, they have organizations all over that exist to help these women. You can still skip out on your child support, but it's become much more difficult over the years. In this lady's case her husband had to quit his job and go underground for years. After all this time she'll never see a dime of what he owed, and that's the real shame. She really could have used that money when the kid was little.

The issue now is that the kid has a demonstrably true American citizen father. Somebody can correct me here, but I believe he's entitled to apply for American citizenship, no? I think he only has so much time to do it? I'm not sure he's interested, but I told mom to tell him he needs to see a lawyer. I guess he had a bunch of related paperwork in his truck. He had a brain fart one night and left the box of papers in his front seat. Well, we all know what he found in the morning. A broken window and no box.

[Captain Solo]

And A K.

If HK uses the 7th floor, it would run all day, all night. You don't have to wait until tonight to find out.

On Wednesday, Cascada's security guys told me the hotel was closed, but I found a few very hot girls living in Cascada, going in by the puta door in front of HK.

[Artisttyp]

Paternity must be proven before California would enforce the child support, no?

I was pretty much under the impression that any girl in a foreign country that becomes pregnant with a gringo's child can locate some type of women's aid society or female help organization that aids them in this sort of thing. They find the guy and file a formal complaint somehow. I don't know the specific details but if a chica is smart enough she can do what is necessary and it can come back to you.

I think the days of US Servicemen getting foreign women pregnant then leaving the country forever never to return or help has been ironed out somehow. I can't imagine this being the norm these days without repercussions.

[NormalAsianKid]

I think the 7th floor is open again. Haven't been yet but seen girls go up and down the stairs a lot. Going to check it out tonight.

[OrganicAlo]

If she knows you, I. E. Knows your name, and home state, she can enforce child support. I can't speak for all states, but California does cooperate with Mexico on child support. It takes a fair amount of paperwork and tenacity on the girl's part, but she can get CA to enforce child support. I helped a girl get it years ago. She got a few payments, then Mr. Wonderful went underground. The "kid" is now 18 or 19, and a really great kid.

Now if this were a random encounter then it would be very difficult for her to file for support.

Paternity must be proven before California would enforce the child support, no?

[Phordphan]

Theoretically speaking, if a monger were to get a puta pregnant. There is no way to enforce these child support payments between gringo and puta, correct?

If she knows you, I. E. Knows your name, and home state, she can enforce child support. I can't speak for all states, but California does cooperate with Mexico on child support. It takes a fair amount of paperwork and tenacity on the girl's part, but she can get CA to enforce child support. I helped a girl get it years ago. She got a few payments, then Mr. Wonderful went underground. The "kid" is now 18 or 19, and a really great kid.

Now if this were a random encounter then it would be very difficult for her to file for support.

[LuvMexicanas]

Theoretically speaking, if a monger were to get a puta pregnant. There is no way to enforce these child support payments between gringo and puta, correct?

Your question is troubling. The word enforce should not even apply. A man who fathers a child and runs from the responsibility is not a man at all. If you don't want a child with a puta, stop having sex with them or wrap that condom tight each and every time.

[ClamSlammer]

Theoretically speaking, if a monger were to get a puta pregnant. There is no way to enforce these child support payments between gringo and puta, correct?

I'm not that familiar with child support laws, I imagine that there may be some level of cooperation between Mexican and American state governments as far as collecting child support, but for the most part paying child support to a Mexican mother is easy to circumvent by a foreigner. That being said, I have no doubt that the chica knows this, and that she chooses a potential father based on his income and character, judging for herself how likely the monger is to follow through and accept financial responsibility.

[ScatManDoo]

I've had nature take its course and sexo sin condom just kinda happened, but I don't ever recall a chica "request BBFS" from me and honestly I'd probably be thrown off enough by that and just wrap up my soldier.

I started mongering in Tijuana back in 2004. For the first five or six years I didn't want to have uncovered sex with Tijuana chicas.

But in 2009 or 2010 I turned to the dark side. But never in the last decade did a chica request "sin condom". It was always initiated or based on my request and / or preference.

However in those first five years, both myself and JTull2 were repeatedly solicited by street girls in the region of the Irma Hotel to fuck without a condom. The SG chicas saw our blue eyes and said they wanted blue-eyed babies.

The only other time I recall the chica being out front suggesting raw sex was back in 2004 in Adelitas Bar. An infamous chica (originally from the Chicago Club, but moved over to AB) that went by the name Smith suggested to me that she would be happy to suck me sin condom for $40 additional dollars. Back then I opted her covered services.

[ImCurious]

I got to agree with Clammy. I've had nature take its course and sexo sin condom just kinda happened, but I don't ever recall a chica "request BBFS" from me and honestly I'd probably be thrown off enough by that and just wrap up my soldier.

It only happened to me once when a chica hopped on me, it was already in and just like you said I had nature take its course.

From reading the recent posts here, I didn't realize how prevalent BBFS is down there. The pregnancy and child support payments is a concern and I haven't been able to find any definite info on a google search.

[OrganicAlo]

Perhaps in the ultra-rare case in which a puta either genuinely falls in love with the monger or wants child support payments so she wants to get pregnant. But basically what you're talking about doesn't happen.

Theoretically speaking, if a monger were to get a puta pregnant. There is no way to enforce these child support payments between gringo and puta, correct?