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08-09-20 12:55 #13656
Posts: 1173Originally Posted by MontanaMonger [View Original Post]
And that as many as half of people won't take it.
And that even if a vaccine was approved we only have the capability to actually make about 300,000,000 doses in a world of almost 9 billion people.
Start crunching those numbers and you might be able to understand why people in the travel industry are talking about maybe starting to approach something like normal in 2024.
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08-09-20 12:49 #13655
Posts: 1173Originally Posted by GDreams [View Original Post]
The important number is infection fatality rates.
As researchers like us have learned more about the spread of the virus, we have discovered that the total number of infected people is far greater than the number of confirmed cases. For example in New York, it was more than 10 times the previously announced infection rate.
When deaths from COVID-19 are divided by the total number of cases – not just reported cases – you get a statistic called the infection fatality rate (IFR). The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention currently has a best guess of 0. 26%% for the IFR.
And that's in the US where half of the population is obese, and more than half of the population has a "chronic disease or illness. ".
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08-09-20 10:05 #13654
Posts: 405Originally Posted by WestCoast1 [View Original Post]
If anyone thinks the vaccine is THE panacea we are looking for its not when the vaccine is unleashed it will only be 50% effective (not 93%) which is about as good as the current Flu shot, we all know how well that works.
China specifically has HAD a vaccine since April hence the low infection rate in China (Chinese people are already vaccinated against the China based strain) and they aren't sharing until official trials are completed to show efficacy with the mutations and of course to ensure profit.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/07/coro...not-great.html
https://www.voanews.com/science-heal...ency-use-april
https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng...avirus-vaccine
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08-09-20 06:33 #13653
Posts: 6885Originally Posted by RickRock [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by GDreams [View Original Post]
And then there's this, from yesterday's NY Times: "A flurry of recent studies has revealed that a large proportion of the population 20% to 50% of people in some places might harbor immunity assassins called T cells that recognize the new coronavirus despite having never encountered it before. ". A previously undisclosed herd immunity (just my luck, I probably don't have assassin cells).
https://news.yahoo.com/coronavirus-i...141224903.html
I'm keeping my mask on (and soon to come: the mandatory face shield).
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08-09-20 01:02 #13652
Posts: 701Originally Posted by Muzungufotsy [View Original Post]
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08-08-20 23:40 #13651
Posts: 1562Originally Posted by Bushes [View Original Post]
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08-08-20 19:05 #13650
Posts: 451RK wonders why people without fire protection are trying to run into an empty burning building or people who are already on fire. Well who knows. But there are several areas where people or leaders have made choices that will inadvertently lead to some interesting unintended insight into Covid19. The data guys are digging through all those numbers.
If someone wants to travel, I suspect they will find a way. Especially if they think they are or can be virus proof.
Several countries are advancing their own vaccine development because they suspect the new world order will lead to many western countries not sharing vaccines till their own population are vaccinated. So far the exceptions are surprisingly China and Russia.
Russia claims to have one soon. Like others, they are waiting for approval. So, if one cannot wait, they can sign up for one of the trials or be the first to get an approved vaccine in the jurisdiction that approved it.
Right now, restrictions on movement in PI has impacted mongering. Difficult to move around. Neighbors don't like a flow of strange people breaking quarantine in your home. They will report you.
Even in the US, I heard one person had a cop visit because of an out of state plate in the driveway. At least the neighbors did not try to self investigate with loaded guns.
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08-08-20 14:08 #13649
Posts: 544Originally Posted by RickRock [View Original Post]
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08-08-20 13:14 #13648
Posts: 2656Originally Posted by RedKilt [View Original Post]
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08-08-20 12:14 #13647
Posts: 1173Originally Posted by RedKilt [View Original Post]
Perhaps they are not elderly, diabetic, or suffering from heart disease or cancer, in which case their chances of serious illness are well under 1 percent.
Or maybe they just don't care and are willing to take the risk, like guys who have sex with prostitutes without using a condom.
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08-08-20 10:45 #13646
Posts: 3230Originally Posted by RickRock [View Original Post]
It seems like these guys have no regard whatsoever for their potential to get infected given that the availability of girls desperate for their monetary assistance are those who live in crowded and relatively slum-like areas. They are also assuming they can actually arrange for women to get to their accommodation and that they will be allowed access.
I guess it's a classic case of the little brain ruling the big brain. Those who are desperate must be those who cannot score in their own country and can only get laid if they target desperate pinays who are not too choosy.
I live here and I can see that everyone in my "hood is very antsy about catching the virus. Masks and now shields are compulsory and it is not easy to get around. No taxis buses or trains.
I am bemused why guys with ages that are in the high-risk group will want to challenge the odds of getting infected and if you're unlucky you face being hospitalized in quite difficult circumstances.
I suppose it's a case of "it won't happen to me. These things only happen to other people".
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08-08-20 08:54 #13645
Posts: 6885To be (in-country), or not to be. . .
Originally Posted by RickRock [View Original Post]
If you are in-country, stay put and get a regular girl (two), button down the hatches, and ride it out. If you are not in-country, reacquaint yourself with your palm (like when you were married) or spend more to make some magic happen. There are pro's and cons to both staying in-country and to going home.
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08-08-20 07:58 #13644
Posts: 1173Originally Posted by DCups [View Original Post]
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08-07-20 14:19 #13643
Posts: 3094Originally Posted by Goferring [View Original Post]
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08-07-20 13:23 #13642
Posts: 1173Originally Posted by Goferring [View Original Post]