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08-16-20 22:58 #20841
Posts: 71Kiev
Originally Posted by DonkeyPower [View Original Post]
Why are you still visiting Kiev?
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08-16-20 22:34 #20840
Posts: 823Originally Posted by NorskKing [View Original Post]
At the same time today, I am in communication with 3 persons currently in Kiev and having great time. Wish I could join. I will probably wait till May 2021 or so.
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08-16-20 22:29 #20839
Posts: 823Originally Posted by YummyPL [View Original Post]
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08-16-20 21:18 #20838
Posts: 2821Originally Posted by DonkeyPower [View Original Post]
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08-16-20 18:41 #20837
Posts: 558Originally Posted by YummyPL [View Original Post]
I just asked in my message how long you will be in Kiev.
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08-16-20 17:26 #20836
Posts: 94Kiev trip postponed
I see that some brave souls went ahead with their visit to Kiev. Also thanks for the amazing reports. Very useful.
I postponed my trip to October as I see a lot of chaotic news (reading news daily makes it look even worse than it is).
Postponing flight and apartment was just few clicks without any charges.
Before considering to postpone I just bought membership in Mamba and few phone numbers. Stay safe and have fun.
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08-16-20 16:37 #20835
Posts: 4Two years ago, in December, I visited Kyiv and Lviv for the first time. I had a pretty good time there, went to Rio and other strip clubs and had luck with a Mamba girl. If anyone is interested, I wrote a report.
Since then I visited St. Petersburg and Moscow a few times. I really liked it there, since it is so much easier to find girls. In Moscow, for example, there is a reliable website with review function and in St. Petersberg there are awesome salon chains, where you can check the current roster online. To my knowledge, nothing of the sort exists in Kyiv. Nonetheless, I decided to try my luck again in September. Firstly, because of the awesome reports of fellow members here and secondly because Russian borders are closed tightly.
So in the last few days I have been preparing by gaining contacts on Badoo and Mamba. On Badoo I matched with a lot of women. But I am really not sure how they would react to P2P offers. They all seem so normal. With some of them I write daily. On Mamba it is more obvious. There are profiles with certainly fake photos. I guess these are salon or agency profiles. Haven't contacted one yet. I don't think it makes sense to do it now, since I am not in town. However, I wrote to some girls, who seem to be semi-professional or regular girls. Didn't get any responses yet. Maybe I am missing a certain catchphrase. Anyhow, I am trying to prepare more in the next three weeks. Hopefully it will be a nice trip.
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08-16-20 07:13 #20834
Posts: 499Originally Posted by PhotoSlider [View Original Post]
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08-15-20 23:56 #20833
Posts: 823Originally Posted by YummyPL [View Original Post]
- Do you have them, or should I stop by the pharmacy?
They frequently use euphemism "it" or "them".
Do website / apartment girls have their own condoms? How about mamba girls?
Back in 2008 I picked up a girl at River Palace and brought her to my place downtown. We had a good conversation, then started kissing, I pulled her towards the bed, and she asked:
- Are you sure?
- Yes I am.
Then I explained that at first I wasn't going to take anybody. Which was partially true. She smiled, and said:
- The same with me. I've been passing by and stopped by for a minute to take a look.
That's when she opened her purse and pulled out a pack of strawberry scented condoms called "Romance".
Professionals will always have their own. Students may not, as they barely have money for food, rent and the latest model of iPhone.
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08-15-20 13:28 #20832
Posts: 499Just curious about other people's experience. I always have my own condoms. I strongly prefer a particular type. I brought 120 with me and have my bedside drawer full of them.
Is it normal for a girl to show up without condoms in Ukraine? Do website / apartment girls have their own condoms? How about mamba girls?
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08-15-20 11:29 #20831
Posts: 134Originally Posted by Rog123 [View Original Post]
Yes. I shall meditate on this.
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08-14-20 19:22 #20830
Posts: 597Originally Posted by Desin [View Original Post]
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08-14-20 14:36 #20829
Posts: 134Thank you for your advices!
My "street game" is non-existent, I have an issue to talk to total strangers (and chitchat, of all the horrible things! But then again, when I've arranged a date with someone, it's not a problem at all. So this is why the Tinder / Mamba are going to be essential.
My ideal would be to find such a nice persons that I'd like to visit them again and again in future years. So I'm thinking if I should approach this with two ways, simultaneously: Use Tinder to find someone without the reference to money, or with some hidden, but open reference. Something that says "I like to help my friends" or something like that. From time to time over a year, I could send a 50 or 100 euros, just to keep her on the leash. (I know, I know. It's me on the leash, not her.).
Then, I could use Mamba to try more direct approach. I haven't figured out the keywords yet that are familiar to Ukrainian women, but I'll probably come up with something.
Or, I could use two different Tinder-accounts at the same time in different phones. I got a 'steal this' phone for my trips and it'll be useful in this purpose aswell.
If I find a cute and sexually compatible girl, who doesn't bring up the money to the discussion but with whom I'd like to form this kind of financial relationship (maybe she'd expect it as well, but wouln't know how to say it), then what do you consider to good ways to "pamper" her, like YummyPL expressed it? Are they into clothes, electrical devices (headphones? Restaurants, beauty saloons or just hard cash? What would be a proper amount of money, so I wouldn't go over-the-top when I wouldn't have to? What should make. A student in Kiev. Her happy? One told me in another site that she has 100 euro for living per month.
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08-14-20 10:22 #20828
Posts: 823Originally Posted by YummyPL [View Original Post]
I do not think I am that particularly attractive, but pallatable.
Good friend of mine just mentioned in conversation today, that Brad Pitt or any other married celebrity would probably kill to be in our shoes while we are so lucky to visit Kiev.
I believe there were a few incidents when Mike Tyson or Jean Claude Van Damm disappeared in Kiev for many days and were nowhere to be found after extensive search.
I, on the other hand, am aesthetically challenged and 52 years old. I have never had any luck with Tinder. If my first impression is my age and face, I will get nowhere. But yes, I think a guy who looks 35 and is reasonably attractive can be successful on Tinder with the 18-25 year olds.
If you are comfortable talking with girls, then street game may be your best bet for that price range. But for me that takes time. My on the spot street game isn't very good but I have been chatting up two young women who work near my apartment every day for the week I have been here. They give me signs of interest despite me being about 30 years their senior. My game is that I dress well, I am consistent (reliable), and confident.
Confident. Yes. And dress well, but not overdress. I've had a T-shirt at the "Swan Lake", clean, new, but no suite and tie, and it didn't affect admiration of my lady of the night. On the contrary. By being confident, without arrogance, demonstrates that you may have other options. And Ukrainian ladies have two binary modes:
1. Chase me, I am so beautiful.
2. he doesn't pay sufficient attention. He wants to flee! OMG! I'm going to fight fiercely against the perceived competition.
I speak a little Russian and am learning a little Ukrainian but they most often talk to me in English anyway.
It is certainly possible for you to get a young woman without paying her directly at all. I had a few Russian girlfriends that were much younger than me that never asked for anything. They only wanted to be treated well.
To answer your question more directly, it is not a thing of the past for a young girl to go for an older guy--it is just getting harder as their options expand.
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08-14-20 09:14 #20827
Posts: 499Originally Posted by Desin [View Original Post]
If you are comfortable talking with girls, then street game may be your best bet for that price range. But for me that takes time. My on the spot street game isn't very good but I have been chatting up two young women who work near my apartment every day for the week I have been here. They give me signs of interest despite me being about 30 years their senior. My game is that I dress well, I am consistent (reliable), and confident. I speak a little Russian and am learning a little Ukrainian but they most often talk to me in English anyway.
It is certainly possible for you to get a young woman without paying her directly at all. I had a few Russian girlfriends that were much younger than me that never asked for anything. They only wanted to be treated well. To answer your question more directly, it is not a thing of the past for a young girl to go for an older guy--it is just getting harder as their options expand.