Bangkok Reports

[EihTooms]

Of course with your particular requirements, I am not surprised that you are finding things not so different. But for those of us that don't require BBFS + CIP, then the hunting is a bit better just due to the fact there are not so many dudes around.

Granted. And that would explain the "prices down" part of it.

But for any and all punters who were already getting plenty of Covered FS as it was routinely provided by all girls during normal times at then current rates, what would you say is the "performance up" part being agreed to more freely by the better lookers these days?

I mean, that required a Pandemic of epic proportions and near catestrophic worldwide economic disaster to the level of something like 1 customer for every 100+ girls for them to finally start agreeing to provide?

[Franciscass]

Sadly there are many of our brethren who don't consider there are others after them. If the scene or "market" is ruined, eventually it's ruined for all of us.

Covid has brought a refreshing return to the old days with prices down and performance up. I'd wager just about any Go-Go gal can be had for 1500. It is the gals competing for us. And that's the way it should be. For those of you who have been here less than a decade, this is what it was like.
Sadly as soon as the hordes return from East Asia, Singapore, and HK, it'll be back to high prices and gals doing far less than they are now.

Enjoy it while it lasts.

Nice to see Goatscrot that your nostalgia for the good ole days is at last a little closer to being realized. I've commented before on what for me at least is the amazing new reality of a visit to a go go bar. Little or no competition which means almost all girls are available without hesitation. I wasn't a go go fan before, the hustle, too crowded, lady drinks, bar fines. Feeling if there were young Asians sitting beside me I would have to settle for less than the top talent. It's still not the cheapest shag in town, lady drinks and bar fines are still as far as I can make out as they were but I now pay no more than 2000 for the girls time. As to service again not having a lot of experience with go go girls, nor having special needs, I cannot tell if there is a difference in their enthusiasm to give you a good time but mostly I have been happy. I sympathize with our members who are unable to be here even more so knowing when finally they are allowed back in it will be most likely be back to business as usual and the good ole days will again become nostalgia.

[Goatscrot]

Can't say I am finding that to be true about go-go girls above a minimally doable 7 that I have encountered yet. And I hit a few go-go bars to buy LDs and interview girls 3-4 times per week now.

I'm not interviewing less attractive ones than that so I can't say what they are offering for less these days. But when I interview the ones that are clearly the better looking ones without much mental gymnastics and debate about it, the vast majority are not agreeing to one iota more than the dismal basic standard fare they would have agreed to for the most free spending, low demand Capitalist they jumped on during normal times.

That is from Playskool and Cactus Bar to Billboard and Baccara and several in between. Wish I could say otherwise. But it is not there yet for me.

Will they go along with 1,500 baht for that same dismal minimum level of service instead of 2,000 - 2,500 baht? I get a sense they probably would if I worked it longer, bought a couple more LDs. But I have so little interest in working longer for nothing special regardless of the discount I just move on to another bar. And neither the girls nor the mamasans seem the least bit interested in stopping me to find out why and if there is something they can do to change my mind.

This is aside from the couple of mamasans I know who will go the extra millimeter to bring me a suitable girl to justify my spending anything on them. And I can get new suitable ones without their help, of course. But not at any higher rate of success or for notably less baht than during normal times.

Same with better looking beer bar girls, FLs on the street, in Thermae, etc.

As always, YMMV.

Of course with your particular requirements, I am not surprised that you are finding things not so different. But for those of us that don't require BBFS + CIP, then the hunting is a bit better just due to the fact there are not so many dudes around.

[EihTooms]

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Covid has brought a refreshing return to the old days with prices down and performance up. I'd wager just about any Go-Go gal can be had for 1500. It is the gals competing for us. And that's the way it should be. For those of you who have been here less than a decade, this is what it was like.
Sadly as soon as the hordes return from East Asia, Singapore, and HK, it'll be back to high prices and gals doing far less than they are now.

Enjoy it while it lasts.

Can't say I am finding that to be true about go-go girls above a minimally doable 7 that I have encountered yet. And I hit a few go-go bars to buy LDs and interview girls 3-4 times per week now.

I'm not interviewing less attractive ones than that so I can't say what they are offering for less these days. But when I interview the ones that are clearly the better looking ones without much mental gymnastics and debate about it, the vast majority are not agreeing to one iota more than the dismal basic standard fare they would have agreed to for the most free spending, low demand Capitalist they jumped on during normal times.

That is from Playskool and Cactus Bar to Billboard and Baccara and several in between. Wish I could say otherwise. But it is not there yet for me.

Will they go along with 1,500 baht for that same dismal minimum level of service instead of 2,000 - 2,500 baht? I get a sense they probably would if I worked it longer, bought a couple more LDs. But I have so little interest in working longer for nothing special regardless of the discount I just move on to another bar. And neither the girls nor the mamasans seem the least bit interested in stopping me to find out why and if there is something they can do to change my mind.

This is aside from the couple of mamasans I know who will go the extra millimeter to bring me a suitable girl to justify my spending anything on them. And I can get new suitable ones without their help, of course. But not at any higher rate of success or for notably less baht than during normal times.

Same with better looking beer bar girls, FLs on the street, in Thermae, etc.

As always, YMMV.

[Banana Boi]

Thank you guys for all the political knowledge I'm gaining on this supposed SEX board. Your highly qualified expertise has convinced me that your political viewpoints are the correct ones! It will help me when I vote for Taylor Swift as the next President. Is Tina Fey running for President again? Hated when she lost last time.

I'm a huge fan of Ovechkin who plays for the Washington Capitalists!

Welcome to IPG guys!

[MarquisdeSade1]

a me me me attitude, it has also had a profound impact on our hobby.

I was shocked at the behavior of mongers during my first visit to FKK, there were Asians that were trying to "hoard" the hookers like they were gold bars.

So I asked my best friend that is Korean why they cannot share, they are hookers after all, you know "you go, I go, he goes".

They are hookers not your girlfriend.

I guess some people that are really "thirsty" don't understand that.

[Goatscrot]

I guarantee that you will not find one monger with lots of disposable income who will consider that there are others after him. In a capitalist world money rules and its each man for himself.

That's not really the case. Capitalism is failing because the modern corporate version has forgotten that cooperation is a cornerstone of any economic system that wishes to be sustainable. Capitalism is in it's end stages. Just like mercantilism before and feudalism before that it will be replaced by another system. What will that system be? I'm not sure we know at this point. But if we want to continue on this planet as a species it will have to take into account more cooperative systems and systems that are less exploitive and are less harsh on the environment. And just like late stage capitalism has led to the stripping of the planet's resources, and the degradation of the environment, and overpopulation by fostering a me me me attitude, it has also had a profound impact on our hobby.

[Turgid]

So says all Democrats, Leftists, Black Lives Matter, and ANTIFA! Capitalism is the bane of mankind. Socialism rules! Communism needs a second chance! All white Americans are racists! The Chinese Communist Party operatives are having a field day of smearing everything and everyone, because when smoke clears the PRC will rule the world!

The Democrats, BLM and Antifa are all capitalist. China is a capitalist country, it has 389 billionaires and God knows how many millionaires, second only to the US. Look at the videos most of the BLM protesters all over the US are white. I tell you this whole world is topsy turvy.

[Rodwint2]

Are you saying that all capitalists are assholes?

So says all Democrats, Leftists, Black Lives Matter, and ANTIFA! Capitalism is the bane of mankind. Socialism rules! Communism needs a second chance! All white Americans are racists! The Chinese Communist Party operatives are having a field day of smearing everything and everyone, because when smoke clears the PRC will rule the world!

[Turgid]

..........Each man for himself= assholes.

Are you saying that all capitalists are assholes?

[MarquisdeSade1]

I guarantee that you will not find one monger with lots of disposable income who will consider that there are others after him. In a capitalist world money rules and its each man for himself.

Each man for himself, then why are you on this forum? Parasitic much?

Each man for himself= assholes.

[Allover]

I guarantee that you will not find one monger with lots of disposable income who will consider that there are others after him. In a capitalist world money rules and its each man for himself.

Some people are as you describe. But I believe well to do mongers care about value and few mongers want to be taken advantage of. I will splurge and possibly overpay for someone special at most once per trip. But that is my limit.

[Turgid]

Sadly there are many of our brethren who don't consider there are others after them. If the scene or "market" is ruined, eventually it's ruined for all of us............

I guarantee that you will not find one monger with lots of disposable income who will consider that there are others after him. In a capitalist world money rules and its each man for himself.

[Goatscrot]

In favor of a few destroying the market / hobby for the greater good?

In USA there are anti monopolistic laws because this is never good for the market, why do you think that is?

Do you want to rationalize the pathetic methods some mongers use to damage the market for all, is that what your objective is?

Then call it "winning" or "ballin."

Sadly there are many of our brethren who don't consider there are others after them. If the scene or "market" is ruined, eventually it's ruined for all of us.

Covid has brought a refreshing return to the old days with prices down and performance up. I'd wager just about any Go-Go gal can be had for 1500. It is the gals competing for us. And that's the way it should be. For those of you who have been here less than a decade, this is what it was like.
Sadly as soon as the hordes return from East Asia, Singapore, and HK, it'll be back to high prices and gals doing far less than they are now.

Enjoy it while it lasts.

[AssLover945]

Awesome reply.

You echo my thoughts on some punters coming and spoiling the market.

AL.

Yes, tip away, but I don't think the OP was talking about tipping, he was talking about paying over market price.

There are many poor people in LOS, if you're trying to help the poor you hit the wrong demographic. Girls that are getting around 3000 for an hour's work don't really fit into this demographic that you're looking to help out of the kindness of your heart.

And here is the line that gives it all away and proves a lot of mongers here are correct when they talk about spoiling the market and raising rates if there is enough of this logic going around. Please bear with me on this one. I live in a country where people get by with 300 USD a month. It's not a great living but we get by. Being that's the case, girls are happy to accept 20 USD per session, they'll accept less but are happy with it because they make that 300 USD in a week rather that in a month.

Along comes Freddie who pays 200 USD per session in his home country. Gives a model girl 50 USD for her service based on his logic that its way more costly where he comes from. Word gets around that Freddie's can pay that much, girls start asking for 50 from the many Freddie's coming into town. Model girls no longer happy that they're getting paid the same rate as regular sue, so they start asking Freddie's for 80 USD and get it because Freddie just paid 50 for Sue. And the wheel keeps spinning.

If she is reluctant to BBFS to begin with, better not pressure / entice her to do it with more money. This is the opposite of being kind hearted. Find another that is ok with it. This has been discussed extensively in ETs posts, kindly read.

It's clear that you have been identified as a mark and targeted on more that one occasion, never have the more sensible mongers heard girls speaking about getting 100 k from other mongers because the girls have not marked them.

It's not the lady keeping you as a regular, it's you keeping her as a regular.

Thanks, it does.