German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[Bfsie]

Wow, $25 grand is a lot. That is $300 K annually, for just one girl. Even if my net worth was $10 M, I would not be willing to part 3% of it annually for sex w / just one girl. Perhaps if I had $100 M I might, but that will not happen in this life for me, so there is that.

Yeah, I imagine the concept of sugarbabe must have existed for a long time whatever they were called. Mistress, doxy, concubine, live in lover, kept woman. As in everything else, internet democratized this, expanded supply and brought in more girls, and probably reduced the prices.

The most I have ever been asked is 10 grand for a month, and that happened only a few times. I quickly filtered such girls out. Obviously, I am not as rich (or profligate) as that rich dude who offered $25 K / month.

I was joking a little about her being his sugar baby because she moved in to this guy's house although she still kept her own apartment. Presumably this dude thought they were in an exclusive SD / SB relationship, which means she was only having sex with him. So the relationship is a little different from sugar baby we understand now. I would say he rented her.

In addition, she was a 19-year-old model in NY and, in my opinion, could easily beat any WG in FKK clubs I have seen in terms of look and figure. So I think that 20 K to 25 K a month is not overpriced in New York.

[Mr Ho]

Those who lives by beautiful young stunner prostitutes fucking die by them mongers! You got nothing to worry about when it comes to societal norms LOL!

[Sirioja]

EL: never believe any world coming out from the mouth of a prostitute, how many girls told me they will move to Dubai they found a rich guy, or I have a transport company it is my last month in the club, or I am dentist or I am student. All is bulshitt, 99% of the girls are still prostitutes 5 years latter only very few can quit and have a normal life, a lot of them have nothing when they are 35+, even they earned a lot of money but spent even more for the boyfriend, for useless things or made bad investment.

Unfortunately, when I would really like they make a good life with money they made being fucked, but when few most often lose their money in not working business in poor Romania, sometimes business being for pimp, if they were able to make good business, they would not work for years to be fucked. More safe for Elen to work at Sharks with Asians than in Dubai.

[Mr Ho]

I find the entry which in most cases is 75 and 90 in Artemis way too much for what I get for free in FKK club. Only very few visitors have 3 meals as you mentioned and many don't even try the food which in most cases is fast food level. The professional massage is 1 euro per minute so not free. What is left? Swim and have sauna and watch Bundesliga? Even the naked girls you get so used to them after 10 minutes. I don't even know why we pay entry, when we have to pay for the girls, the drinks etc. I would rather prefer a flat rate entrance with minimum time, in example fuck, drink and eat as much as you can in 4 hours. I would happily pay for that.

Since the owner of Artemis is Turkish guy, it is better for Artemis to stick to Turkish food only and kebab.

I do not go to FKK to eat, but it would be nicer if the food in FKK is nicer.

[Mr Ho]

You guys are always trying to compare the organized system of Germany (particularly the ultimate organized system of the FKKs) to an organized system in the United States, but that doesn't work.

The USA Has been on the attack against anything organized when it comes to commercial sex for a decade or two. So the USA System has become a disorganized system with prices all over the place that doesn't yield itself to comparisons. And for guys who like to hang out at a place, there is little or nothing in existence.

The legal Nevada brothels are an extraordinarily small part of the overall scene. Clinical and ridiculously overpriced and not reflective of the price per hour paid by most Johns in the USA For commercial sex.

Zoning laws and threats of zoning revocations for places known to provide sex in back rooms have destroyed strip clubs. And little changes in zoning like buffers between the customers and guys have made enforcement of violations easier. They are largely worthless now.

Well they better get more organized, so that they do not shoot people with guns with bullets, but they will shoot beautiful prostitute with their penis with sperm LOL! Second one is more fun and better way of living LOL!

[Mr Ho]

It has already been set up Mr. Ho and it's called the Chicken Ranch. Here's a link.

https://chickenranchbrothel.com/ladies/

OK, but I do not like the optics of chickens at their chicken ranch LOL!

FKK sure has stunner level girls by far comparison to rest of world. FKK changed my image on brothel.

[Nick3345]

https://www.6profis.de/private-model...lea-29917.html did someone spot LEA in last Time? Someone?

[Pessimist]

You guys are always trying to compare the organized system of Germany (particularly the ultimate organized system of the FKKs) to an organized system in the United States, but that doesn't work.

The USA Has been on the attack against anything organized when it comes to commercial sex for a decade or two. So the USA System has become a disorganized system with prices all over the place that doesn't yield itself to comparisons. And for guys who like to hang out at a place, there is little or nothing in existence.

The legal Nevada brothels are an extraordinarily small part of the overall scene. Clinical and ridiculously overpriced and not reflective of the price per hour paid by most Johns in the USA For commercial sex.

Zoning laws and threats of zoning revocations for places known to provide sex in back rooms have destroyed strip clubs. And little changes in zoning like buffers between the customers and guys have made enforcement of violations easier. They are largely worthless now.

Same with massage parlors. Many places require all kinds of professional licensing for a business to operate.

The federal government did so many asset seizures of escort agencies where ladies cross state lines that big multi-state escort agencies no longer exist..

You make many good points. People often use the moniker "sex prison" when it comes to USA and I have abused that phrase myself occasionally. But "tough to obtain organized sex" as you put it does not equate to "no paid sex is happening in USA". Far from it. One just has to be more diligent, proactive and patient. The thing is that for those staying patient and diligent, wonderful deals can fall in their lap occasionally and when they do. All the more satisfying but one has to search for them. They are not like picking a couple of egg rolls at a Chinese restaurant buffer.

You are also very right about NV brothels. I had been to the one near Reno (Moonlight Bunny ranch?) several years ago and also one near LV (think it was Pathrump? Forgetting the name). Having now been inside FKKs, I will never again set foot in any of these NV brothels. I do see these brothels bring slightly washed up porn stars at high prices as headline acts to attract customers. If you have a fantasy about any specific porn starlet NV brothels may be an easy way to meet, although I do see that you can meet many of them through escort sites or perhaps even writing to them directly. Occasionally some of these porn stars also make cameo appearances in sugar babe sites but my experience is that their quoted prices are always too high and not worth it unless you have a specific fantasy about them.

The good thing about sugar babe sites is that over time, you can accumulate several contacts in many cities including phone numbers, IG / Snap etc. If you meet any of them for a dinner and then a fuck session, there is nothing illegal and not a thing that LE can do about it. You both know each other, know what's on each one's mind, know all the details including prices and expected money. Such sessions feel quite natural and beyond the reach of any LE officer.

[ExpatLover]

EL: never believe any world coming out from the mouth of a prostitute, how many girls told me they will move to Dubai they found a rich guy, or I have a transport company it is my last month in the club, or I am dentist or I am student. All is bulshitt, 99% of the girls are still prostitutes 5 years latter only very few can quit and have a normal life, a lot of them have nothing when they are 35+, even they earned a lot of money but spent even more for the boyfriend, for useless things or made bad investment.

[Sirioja]

I find the entry which in most cases is 75 and 90 in Artemis way too much for what I get for free in FKK club. Only very few visitors have 3 meals as you mentioned and many don't even try the food which in most cases is fast food level. The professional massage is 1 euro per minute so not free. What is left? Swim and have sauna and watch Bundesliga? Even the naked girls you get so used to them after 10 minutes. I don't even know why we pay entry, when we have to pay for the girls, the drinks etc. I would rather prefer a flat rate entrance with minimum time, in example fuck, drink and eat as much as you can in 4 hours. I would happily pay for that.

Go to Aphrodisia or Amesia in Zurich with free entry and free drinks, but no foods. You pay only girls. At Gold. De, from breakfast to 1 am, you could eat 10 times for only 25 € with free drinks, and if you managed well with girls, You could have nearly 40 mn for 40, and few beauties, even found one who had Globe level in bed. She was so lost on our discovery, but she remembered for our second time. At Olymp Solothurn. Ch, can eat really good steak, free drinks, sauna, jacuzzi, shower, for only 10 CHF.

[Pessimist]

The most expensive sex establishment I have been to in my life is an illegal members-only sex club in New York. The hourly rate of the girls there was from $1000 to $1500. Remember that was the price over 20 years ago. Almost all the girls were aspiring models or actresses with superior optics. I was not a member of the club and was introduced by a 19-year-old girl who worked there and whom I knew and did. She later on became the sugar baby of a rich dude who paid her $20,000 or $25,000 per month (because I can't remember exactly which amount she told me anymore). Pessimist, we already had sugarbabie market over 20 years ago LOL.

Wow, $25 grand is a lot. That is $300 K annually, for just one girl. Even if my net worth was $10 M, I would not be willing to part 3% of it annually for sex w / just one girl. Perhaps if I had $100 M I might, but that will not happen in this life for me, so there is that.

Yeah, I imagine the concept of sugarbabe must have existed for a long time whatever they were called. Mistress, doxy, concubine, live in lover, kept woman. As in everything else, internet democratized this, expanded supply and brought in more girls, and probably reduced the prices.

The most I have ever been asked is 10 grand for a month, and that happened only a few times. I quickly filtered such girls out. Obviously, I am not as rich (or profligate) as that rich dude who offered $25 K / month.

[Lucky Nuts]

Alright, it would be good business to set up FKK like set up in Nevada and call it "United colors of college tuition fee support center" LOL!

I am not that into Thai girls, but I do like Eurasian (mixed blood, half white, half Asian), which are rare bleed to find in Thailand or any nations in Asia actually, but now and them, I manage to find Eurasian stunner (About 1 to 3 per year and I am constantly in search for them in the mongering market).

Having said that, I am glad we all know where is the best places for mongering and we just have to fly. And hey, it is nice we travel at the same time of mongering, it kind of have synergy affect and make the trips we take more memorable. Only down side is we mostly only go to same countries or even same cities when we take our trips LOL! But at least when we see or hear Berlin, Frankfurt, NRW cities or Zurich, it put smile on our face as these cities are filled with amazing obscene memories that we cherish for life. Isn't it great?

It has already been set up Mr. Ho and it's called the Chicken Ranch. Here's a link.

https://chickenranchbrothel.com/ladies/

[Bfsie]

I had really good sex with NYC hookers in the 1970's and 1980's. Then again I was younger. But then came Rudy Giuliani. Nowadays if you live there you can have ok coitus with escorts, not as enjoyable as in FKKs and more expensive. The internet has reviews of massage parlors and the like. There is a site that has reviews of MPs, I have forgotten the name something to do with maps, google should help.

From 80's until early this century, you could find some ads of illegal brothels in the newspaper "The Village Voice" for "high-class" girls. At that time, the cheapest places were in Jackson Heights, Queens, New York, where a lot of illegal Latino immigrants who were eager to sell themselves for money were and the standard price was $30 for 20 minutes (later raised to $35). You could actually find some real Latin beauties with very sexy body there.

The most expensive sex establishment I have been to in my life is an illegal members-only sex club in New York. The hourly rate of the girls there was from $1000 to $1500. Remember that was the price over 20 years ago. Almost all the girls were aspiring models or actresses with superior optics. I was not a member of the club and was introduced by a 19-year-old girl who worked there and whom I knew and did. She later on became the sugar baby of a rich dude who paid her $20,000 or $25,000 per month (because I can't remember exactly which amount she told me anymore). Pessimist, we already had sugarbabie market over 20 years ago LOL.

[Turgid]

...............I left New York city 17 years ago. When I lived in NY, if you were relatively young and good looking, it was possible to have sex with the strippers after they finished their work and you could take them home. Of course, you had to be good looking and relatively young. How is the sex scene in NYC nowaday?

I had really good sex with NYC hookers in the 1970's and 1980's. Then again I was younger. But then came Rudy Giuliani. Nowadays if you live there you can have ok coitus with escorts, not as enjoyable as in FKKs and more expensive. The internet has reviews of massage parlors and the like. There is a site that has reviews of MPs, I have forgotten the name something to do with maps, google should help.

[Mongerer88]

You guys are always trying to compare the organized system of Germany (particularly the ultimate organized system of the FKKs) to an organized system in the United States, but that doesn't work.

The USA Has been on the attack against anything organized when it comes to commercial sex for a decade or two. So the USA System has become a disorganized system with prices all over the place that doesn't yield itself to comparisons. And for guys who like to hang out at a place, there is little or nothing in existence.

The legal Nevada brothels are an extraordinarily small part of the overall scene. Clinical and ridiculously overpriced and not reflective of the price per hour paid by most Johns in the USA For commercial sex.

Zoning laws and threats of zoning revocations for places known to provide sex in back rooms have destroyed strip clubs. And little changes in zoning like buffers between the customers and guys have made enforcement of violations easier. They are largely worthless now.

Same with massage parlors. Many places require all kinds of professional licensing for a business to operate.

The federal government did so many asset seizures of escort agencies where ladies cross state lines that big multi-state escort agencies no longer exist.

And for the lower-priced ladies, the Fosta / Sesta law and the seizure of Backpage destroyed the efficiency of mass advertising.

So the USA Scene is primarily independent escorts with their own websites, a few local intrastate escort agencies in relatively friendly jurisdictions, Sugar Babies, and a very few small classified mass-advertisement websites. Prices are all over the place, and "regulars" get much better deals in terms of prices and level of services. A lot of new experiences for Johns come from referrals from existing sex workers. The only Organization is that the sex workers themselves maintain good contacts with each other, mostly because the scene requires screening of customers.

So it is really impossible to compare the organized scene in Germany to the widely varying disorganized scene in the USA I suppose the only possible advantage of the disorganized scene is that it has become basically impossible for further attack by law enforcement without getting to a level of intrusiveness that even the general public would object to. And it no longer relies on the government for its continued existence, as is the case with German FKKs.

The USA Scene as it now exists isn't what guys who like FKKs are looking for, but it does exist beyond Nevada brothels and strip clubs.