Sao Paulo Reports

[Muppets]

Gentlemen,

After my 4 day visit back in Jan last year where I must have gone through 2 sometimes 4 girls a day, I am finally returning to SP on Monday for 2 days however I have just found out its a different hotel to where I stayed last time. I think it's the Renaissance Jardins but haven't been able to confirm yet.

The outcall highlights of my last visit were meeting Barbara Balbeck and Ágata Muñoz (maybe I got the surname wrong-she has a Huge Clit and is mega passionate in bed), from splove. I wondered if anyone has any recommendations of girls active just now for outcall? I'm more a fan of the slim / skinny / small ass build which I know is not the thing in Brazil generally.

Cheers gents, I will report of course, as last time.

[The Cane]

I see Scandallo Lounge is about to reopen. Since I had nothing to do I was on social media and saw some potential mongering spots that to my recollection had not been mentioned in the SP forum. If anyone has time to check them out please report your findings or if you already know if any of these establishments please report your experiences. I haven't been to SP in such a long time so I cannot vouch for these establishments except for Love Story (but again I do not know how it is now). Some may be a distance away. Anyhoo. Just something I saw while on social media. I added some regular clubs just for fun..

My report from September 2019:

Like Lalabo, one of my goals with this trip is to do a little scouting. The mongering scene is Sao Paulo is large, and I admit I have sampled only a small part of it. So, I'm making sure to mix in some places I have not been to before along with others that I already know I like. That's why last night I decided to try The Connection Nightclub. I did not know it, but this place is owned by the same folks who own and run Scandallo. At least that's what one of the girl's told me. Connection is way on the other side of town. I would say that with traffic, it probably took about 30 minutes to get there. I took a taxi, and the cost was around 70 reals, which is still awfully cheap compared to what a similar ride would have cost in the States. I tried using Uber, but it didn't work. Think I will try one more time.

Now when you get there, you're going to find that this club is much more hardcore Brazilian. If you're not used to being out of your element and get rattled by the unfamiliar, then maybe Connection ought not be your first mongering stop in Sao Paulo. Nobody was speaking a word of English. They will even tell you that they don't understand Spanish, but what I have found is that if you do go ahead and start speaking in Spanish, many people will in fact understand a lot of what you are saying. So, if you have the Spanish like I do, then use that. It does help. Upon arrival, you will see a glass booth on your right with some ladies in it. You need to go their and show them some ID. They will then associate your name with an account, and give you a card that you will provide to the bartenders and waiters whenever you order food and drink. This is how they track what you consume. Then when you leave, you pay. There was no entrada or consumption fee I needed to pay before going in. You pay when you leave. Same system as at Chanes 57, only electronic versus on paper.

Upon entering the club, I found it to be long and narrow (but not too narrow), with a stage for a band immediately to my left, and a long bar across the way on the other side. This was also the main club area with seating for patrons and the girls. The next room back was the restaurant, which seemed to have more people in it than the main club area when I got there around 9:30 pm. I didn't realize it at first, but the club was bigger than I thought. One of the bubble butt tutes in there was kind enough to show me ha! Off of the restaurant was a good sized, enclosed smoking area. There was a tiny little area where some people were gambling. And then another decent sized back bar.

OK, so what about the ladies? Well, I was reasonably impressed! It was hard to say how many were there at peak time around midnight because of the layout of the place. But I'm going to guess around 50 with several of them very doable. Lots of 7's and 8's like at Cafe Photo, but I kind of liked the vibe at Connection better. I think it was because the Connection girls dress and act more provocatively. I'm talking short, tight dresses and skirts hugging their asses and barely covering their cheeks! To entice the men, sometimes they would sit in their laps and grind. I saw one girl reaching for and stroking the dick. Lifting their dresses and skirts up to give a monger a peak. I know some guys don't like this and say it's not "classy", but I prefer a little "grime" every now and then. The Cane likes a little trash! The Cane likes a little trash! The Cane likes it "trashy" at times LOL! The thing is, the club itself looked nice. Not dirty or anything at all.

Often times in the Sao Paulo boites the girls will not approach, and expect you to let them know you like them if you want them to come over. But as the clock struck midnight, they starting getting more aggressive lest they run the risk of not making any money for the night. One girl who I would rate a 6.5 to 7 actually approached me earlier. I had just ordered an appetizer, and I asked her to share it with me. An appetizer in Brazil sometimes can be the size of a full meal it seems to me! She was nice and all, but spoke no English. She didn't even seem to know how to use Google Translate on a smart phone. Anyway, we talked for awhile and ate. But I knew I would not go with her, and told her I did not want to waste her time. No hard feelings. Peck on the cheek, and she left.

The thing is, having overspent the night before, I decided that I was going to tamp it down at Connection and not go with anybody unless she just "moved" me. "Touched" me in just the right way. Got approached by a redhead (not natural) with a tattoo on my arm. She asked me what I was looking for that night. I replied, "Oh, I don't know. Anal sex"? Big laugh out of that LOL! Well, she had looked interesting from afar, but her face and in the end her body just did not cut it. Then had another girl tried the "you don't like me approach". I said it had nothing to do with her, but that sometimes a man is just not ready. Now, there were two morenas in there with huge, plump, round bubble butts! They were friends! I was sure that if the shorter of the two approached me, then I was not going to be able to resist her. Especially if she parked her big hind parts on my dick and started to grind! Well, she did approach me. In fact, she was the one who showed me around. But I ended up being disappointed because her face didn't quite do it for me. Not that she was ugly, but was just a little older than I thought at first, maybe into her 30's. Would not have hesitated to bone the 20's version of herself hehe.

In the end, I chose nobody. However, there were enough doable girls at this club that if were a regular in Sao Paulo, I would put it into the rotation. Oh, and I almost forgot to say something about prices. Like the guy explained outside before I came in, the girls do their own thing, and from what I gather, they charge lower than places like Scandallo, Bomboa, and Cafe Photo. I didn't get too specific with many of the girls, but one of them started out at 500 reals for an hour. That's half of what the tutes start out at in the other places mentioned. I'm sure you can work a little wiggle room into that too. Now, the one who told me 500 said that would include anal. But to be honest, I was a little skeptical. I mean, she said that anal was "hard", which led me to believe that we could get up there to the room and she might try, but then not come through with the full deal saying it was "too hard" for her. Speaking of the rooms, the girl who showed me around said that the hotel was located above the club with on-premises rooms for use. No idea how good the rooms are as I did not session.

I spent three hours hanging out at The Connection Nightclub. While there, I had three drinks and an appetizer that I shared with a girl. When I left, my final bill was 260 reals. That was about $65 for the night, plus round trip taxi fare at about 70 reals each way. Like I said, if I had the opportunity, I would give The Connection Nightclub another try on another night. Lots of 7's and 8's at more potentially favorable prices than at places like Scandallo, Bomboa, and Cafe Photo.

[UniversalX]

I see Scandallo Lounge is about to reopen. Since I had nothing to do I was on social media and saw some potential mongering spots that to my recollection had not been mentioned in the SP forum. If anyone has time to check them out please report your findings or if you already know if any of these establishments please report your experiences. I haven't been to SP in such a long time so I cannot vouch for these establishments except for Love Story (but again I do not know how it is now). Some may be a distance away. Anyhoo. Just something I saw while on social media. I added some regular clubs just for fun. Copy paste links.

Mongering spots:

Gauguin Club -Rua Arizona, 1550, Brooklin, 04567-003 Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil http://www.gauguinclub.com.br/ +55115505-5515.

812 Night Club -Guarulhos. Av. Carlos Ferreira Endres No812-Itapegica,07041-030 Guarulhos, SP, Brazil http://www.812club.com.br +551195086-9949.

SPICY (Swing) CLUB -Alameda dos Pamaris, 42 Moema, So Paulo, SP https://spicyclub.com.br/ +551194762-2027.

2028 Augusta Bar -Rua Augusta, 2028,01412-000 - Cerqueira seesar, So Paulo / SP http://2028bar.com.br/ +551193407-8780.

Nova Ilha the Fantasia -Avenida Salim Farah Maluf - 3680 - Quarta Parada, So Paulo. SP https://www.ilhadafantasia.com.br/ +551198522-8046.

Playboy Night Club -Rua Tuiuti, 1230 - Tatuap, 03081-012 - So Paulo. SP https://playboynightclub.com.br/ +551197042-8340.

Connection Night Club -Av. Dr. Eduardo Cotching, 1178, Jardim Anlia Franco. So Paulo. SP http://www.connectionvip.com.br/ +55112672-1700.

Regular Clubs (Mongering Potential*)

Dukke Entretenimento -Rua Funchal, 619, So Paulo, SP, Brazil https://www.facebook.com/DukKeSP.

Carioca Club -Rua Cardeal Arcoverde, 2899 http://web.cariocaclub.com.br/.

LE Reve -Rua. Marqus de Paranagu, 329 http://www.lereveclub.com.br/ https://youtu.be/PWtJR6x9bRM.

Love Story* - Rua. Arajo, 232 Repblica http://www.danceterialovestory.tur.br/.

Cafe Piu Piu -Rua. Treze de Maio, 134 Bela Vista http://cafepiupiu.com.br/.

Gracia Bar -Rua Corop, 87 https://graciabar.com.br/.

Bourbon Street Music Club -Rua. Dos Chans, 127 https://bourbonstreet.com.br/.

Mahau -Rua. Professor Atlio Innocenti 160, Itaim Bibi http://www.mahaurestaurantebar.com.br/.

Sutton Sao Paulo -Avenida Brigadeiro Faria Lima 4509,18 floor. Rooftop, Sao Paulo, 03178-200.

https://youtu.be/NYmO5I5iOX0

https://youtu.be/XFui-N-igXI

https://youtu.be/01P7ilEt7bY

[Hobbying]

With Scandallo opening soon (tomorrow?) I expect you local residents to have boots on the ground reports by week's end.

Was told there were 200 girls there, not lowering their price either.

[Rextor]

How do you know you did not get the placebo?

I felt under the weather for a couple days. I'm 80% sure I got the drug and that my mind is not playing tricks on me.

Confirmation will be in 3 weeks when I get the booster shot. The side effects are typically much more significant after the second injection, including fever. Then I'll know for sure.

[Hobbying]

With Scandallo opening soon (tomorrow?) I expect you local residents to have boots on the ground reports by week's end.

Would love to get down there in a week or so, as I already received the Moderna vaccine.

How do you know you did not get the placebo?

[Member #4732]

I was not trying to scare anyone. I was just trying to help and contribute to the forum based on what my experiences were. First off not EVERY freelancer charge in multiples of R50. If you don't believe me just go to the Acompanhantes SP section under Sao Paulo on GP-Guia.net. There are reports from Brazilian guys of freelancers charging R60, R80, R120, R130, R140, R160, R180, R210, R215, R230, R260, R360, R370, etc. I guess all of them must be lying then. I don't doubt Rovnak fuck super models everyday for R300. But just because he never paid a price that is not in the multiples of R50, doesn't mean they don't exist.

I never warned people not to use ATM cards. In fact I stated in my original post that ATM was all I used when I stayed in Sao Paulo for 2 months. I was just suggesting to carry some dollars, just in case in the unlikely event that the ATM card gets cloned or lost. Its almost always a good idea to have backup plans, especially in a foreign country where one don't have easy access to his local bank back home..

I think Wyatt was saying that he and I should not scare anyone who prefers to bring cash and exchange it.

As for non 50 segments. OK fair enough there are some freelance ads for 120 and 180 for example but most are multiples of 50. But I mean the absolute worse case you round up the extra 20 reais which is what 4 USD.

Yes, back up plan is essential, either cash as you suggested or a 2nd account which is what I have.

Its all good, whatever people want to do.

[Rextor]

With Scandallo opening soon (tomorrow?) I expect you local residents to have boots on the ground reports by week's end.

Would love to get down there in a week or so, as I already received the Moderna vaccine.

[DreamCarnarvon]

Yes, I thought that was a strange comment. Freelancers don't have prices like 327 Reais.

I'm an ATM / credit card guy. The funny thing is every time I came back from Brazil I have all these small bills in my pocket. How do I accumulate all these small bills? Basically, Day One is hit the ATM then off to the grocery store. Even if you don't have a kitchen, buy some booze and snacks. The rest of the trip just kind of works out.

I even met a pro at a club once and told her I didn't have a lot of cash on me. She said that's okay you can pay me in the morning.

If you like cash, you like cash. Let's not scare first-timers.

I was not trying to scare anyone. I was just trying to help and contribute to the forum based on what my experiences were. First off not EVERY freelancer charge in multiples of R50. If you don't believe me just go to the Acompanhantes SP section under Sao Paulo on GP-Guia.net. There are reports from Brazilian guys of freelancers charging R60, R80, R120, R130, R140, R160, R180, R210, R215, R230, R260, R360, R370, etc. I guess all of them must be lying then. I don't doubt Rovnak fuck super models everyday for R300. But just because he never paid a price that is not in the multiples of R50, doesn't mean they don't exist.

I should of made it clearer that it could be a pain in the ass when you initally withdrawal from the ATM and get a wad of large notes. But yes I agree with you, as you use you money over time such as shop at grocery stores and eating out at restaurants, you will naturally accumulate smaller notes.

It didn't happen often but I've had incidents in both Rio and Sao Paulo where I go pay for the session and was told by the receptionist that she will give my change after my session or wait while she go and break the large notes I gave her because the clinica didn't have the exact change right at that moment. Did I always eventually get my change? Yes. But the statement Rovnak made, and I quote " Every clinica or boate has change. In fact the clinicas and the boates are the only places in Brazil that reliably have change. " somehow was not true in my experiences. Again, I am just stating the facts from my personal experiences. If 1000 times out of 1000 you got your exact change right on the spot without ever needing to wait, then Roynak, you are one lucky man.

I never warned people not to use ATM cards. In fact I stated in my original post that ATM was all I used when I stayed in Sao Paulo for 2 months. I was just suggesting to carry some dollars, just in case in the unlikely event that the ATM card gets cloned or lost. Its almost always a good idea to have backup plans, especially in a foreign country where one don't have easy access to his local bank back home.

No hard feelings guys. I don't doubt what WyattEarp and Roynak stated are true. But two statements can also be true at the same time. Like the rest of ISG, the Sao Paulo forum has not had any recent trip reports due to the pandemic. I am hoping that those ISG members who are going to Sao Paulo or Rio in the near future can post trip reports so us guys who can't go can at least experience Brazil once again vicariously.

[WyattEarp]

But every free lancer charges a multiple of 50 so I see no problem.

Yes, I thought that was a strange comment. Freelancers don't have prices like 327 Reais.

I'm an ATM / credit card guy. The funny thing is every time I came back from Brazil I have all these small bills in my pocket. How do I accumulate all these small bills? Basically, Day One is hit the ATM then off to the grocery store. Even if you don't have a kitchen, buy some booze and snacks. The rest of the trip just kind of works out.

I even met a pro at a club once and told her I didn't have a lot of cash on me. She said that's okay you can pay me in the morning.

If you like cash, you like cash. Let's not scare first-timers.

[PussyRiot]

I live here

How is the vibe of the city since you are there?

Is it like NYC where it is a like ghost town?

Haven't book the trip yet since noticed all the clubs are closed at this time.

[Member #4732]

First of all I have taken 2000 at a pop out of Santander, and I am not even sure if that is the limit. Plus you can do multiple withdrawals until you hit your own bank limit. Frankly if you can't working girl till you drop daily on less than 1500 reias you are doing something wrong. I do top girls every day for 300 reias for 2 hours. Just got to play the game right. Top as in both great looks and service.

Also as I said in original post if you want to maximize your cash for P4P you use the credit card for all other commercial activity. I reemphasize, this should be a non problem.

To clarify one thing I wrote so as not to create unrealistic expectations. I get top girls to see me for 300 reias 2 hours. A visitor should not expect that. But even if you pay double what I pay. You are looking at 300 per hour for good indies and 150-250 at very good clinicas. Paying above 300 an hour is a luxury fuck at a luxury clinica, boate, or an overpriced oversiliconed seasoned pro indy.

[Member #4732]

Bingo!

I think on the Rio thread some guys occasionally experience getting much better than the published market rate for foreign exchange. I have not been so lucky. Back in the 1990's, some local cash businesses would be aggressively seeking Dollars. I personally haven't seen this in years.

So if this happens, it appears to be a timing thing and hunting down the best rate on the ground. It also might be a Rio thing when the timing is right.

With the usdbrl over 5 no one should be complaining about any exchange rate, I use Santander ATM and I don't even think aa out it. I am sure it is as good or better than exchanging money at a cambio.

[Member #4732]

I assume your calculation of 120 ATM withdrawals implied a little exaggeration and sarcasm. But I do agree the more you withdrawal from the ATM the more your risk increases. I think its perfectly fine to just rely on ATM for short stays of 1-2 weeks. However, anything longer than that I would bring some cash as a backup. The amount would depend on the length of stay. I stayed in Sao Paulo and Rio for 2.5 months on my last trip. In Sao Paulo I relied solely on my ATM card. And in Rio I used a bit of both ATM card and dollar (the casas de cambios in Copa gave out fantastic exchange rates). Of course my daily sex budget was no where near R1500 per day. That seems like an unrealistic daily average for a 2 month stay. I can see some weekend warriors splurging that amount of money. Also the R1000 max withdrawal limit also seems unrealistic. My bank (and I think most banks) allows much more than that. Every person is different on how they obtain and spend their money. But the bottom line is be extra care with your money when you are abroad. Especially in Brazil, only use ATM machines that are located inside banks and / or in areas of high traffic.

I live here and I do cash withdrawals all the time so I think that qualifies as more than a short stay. Just be smart and use ATMs located in banks that have visible security guards. I have used santander in Moema for 3 years without a single incident. In 10 years in Brazil I got cloned 2 times, both at bradesco, once in Rio and once in SP. The last time was in 2015.

[Member #4732]

The boates, clinicas and escorts who take credit cards usually tack on a fee. While the fee is not much, it does add up, especially on a long trip. That's why I almost always pay in cash. But sometimes it can be a pain in the ass. The ATM machines almost always dispense large bills so the smaller bills are hard to come by. I always try to give the girls the exact change as most can't break up the big bills. I even had instances in clinicas where they couldn't give my change right away and told me they would have it after the session. I remember one time in Rio, I forget about my change upon leaving the casa. It was only after I got back to my place that I realized that. I immediately went back to the casa and got my change. LOL.

The ARMs dispense mostly 50's and 100's yes. But every free lancer charges a multiple of 50 so I see no problem. Every clinica or boate has change. I do this every day for years and I have never had a problem with cash in putaria, never. In fact the clinicas and the boates are the only places in Brazil that reliably have change.

This whole thread is the biggest mountain of a mole hill ever.