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  1. #13793
    Quote Originally Posted by KabulGuy  [View Original Post]
    They have been tested. The micro fibre neck gator that some people wear does not protect. In fact it actually increases aerosol droplets emitted. The thinking is that the fine single layer of fabric breaks up larger droplets into smaller more aerosol sized droplets.
    I saw a guy with a beard in a store yesterday whose face covering was a coarse mesh hair net, this in a mandatory mask county. I assumed it was a passive-aggressive political statement.

  2. #13792
    Quote Originally Posted by Mogwai  [View Original Post]
    Only by medical masks. Not or hardly by non-medical masks.
    They have been tested. The micro fibre neck gator that some people wear does not protect. In fact it actually increases aerosol droplets emitted. The thinking is that the fine single layer of fabric breaks up larger droplets into smaller more aerosol sized droplets.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2020/08/08/u...rnd/index.html

    I can buy the multi layer home made cloth ones here for 30 p. I have about a dozen, keep a couple in my car, some in my pack, I just wash them in soapy water and hang to dry after each wearing.

    No problem.

    Remember Mask it or Casket.

  3. #13791
    Quote Originally Posted by KabulGuy  [View Original Post]
    The virus is on water droplets that DOES get filtered out.
    Only by medical masks. Not or hardly by non-medical masks.

  4. #13790
    Quote Originally Posted by Datiao  [View Original Post]
    I think It does make a great difference versus not masking, maybe not as foolproof as the mask you mentioned.
    Only medical masks are foolproof. However, I think most people worldwide are using non-medical masks because medical masks are either not available or too expensive.

  5. #13789
    Interested to know if any 'business' type of visa and entering the country? Are the call center bosses of Makati and Clark still entering and leaving the country? Probably still subject t quarantine but are they at least getting in / out of the country?

  6. #13788
    Quote Originally Posted by KabulGuy  [View Original Post]
    The virus is on water droplets that DOES get filtered out.

    I wish everyone would stop wining and wear a mask.
    As with the Covid19 virus, all the whining and whinging will be with us for a long time.

    The world is going backwards in many ways and are repeating history. Trump is trying to plunder Tiktok. He only wishes he could declare China as terra nullius.

    For the other poster about cutting queues in PI, it happens all over. (I am sure he has tried to cut a queue with a LBFM by offering sweetners. I know I havd).

    In New York, there ard many swippers. Taxis, buses, checkout, checkin are common. Swipper no swpping. Actually the South Asians are the worse or maybe there are just more of them in the queues I usually stand in.

    The good thing I see is more countries opening up. Lock downs are killing the economy. As with the FAA safety regulations, the systemized balance between cost and lives lost is sinking in and being adopted by many. (I am and will avoid the 737 max).

    PI will need to open up to at least to people within its borders. If you are a young stud in the PI, the girl buffet is cheap and plentiful.

    PI is still sending their workers around the world. I read that European cruises are going to restart. Many PI ladies work there. Likewises, I assume you can hire a PI lady for some tasks in some countries and bring them out. You might just have to live on that one pussy for a year or 90 days.

    China also announced recently that foreign residents who fled are allowed back in.

    Likewise Thailand is working on tourist quotas and new guidelines. Google is your friend. Confirm and reconfirm and triple check any announcements. When the left hand does not know the right hand is doing, you as the traveller will get stuck. Thailand is a really good example and I knew a couple people caught there.

  7. #13787
    Quote Originally Posted by DCups  [View Original Post]
    That's not what the health officials are saying, mate.
    The virus is on water droplets that DOES get filtered out.

    I wish everyone would stop wining and wear a mask.

  8. #13786
    Quote Originally Posted by Mogwai  [View Original Post]
    Actually it won't make much difference if they wear a mask or not. The virus is so small that it will go right through it. Unless it's a FFP2 or IIR mask, but that is most likely not the case.

    The majority of the masks that people wear worldwide offer very little protection.
    That's not what the health officials are saying, mate.

  9. #13785
    Quote Originally Posted by PedroMorales  [View Original Post]
    Populist politicians (ie 99% of them) sing from the same hymn sheet. There is no way mongers will be allowed in soon and, if they were, they would be blamed for Covid spikes and the shake downs would be horrendous. I would actually say some elements in Pinoy society are happy with this.

    Duterte is not going to risk Angeles or Makati blowing up in his face. They are small; beans compared to international remittances in any event. The clock is being resent. Reality is being dispensed with and virtual is in. Europe is a mess with quarantine and other rules changing from day to day. I am under self quarantine myself but, more sadly, am confined to barracks as we cannot go anywhere or bonk anyone. Talk of going to the Philippines is akin to going to the moon, or Africa in the 1930's.

    Jollibee days are over.
    Not to be too cynical, but IMO things will probably begin to ease up in regards to travel when the Philippine Fiscal year is over and a tally can be done on the lower amount of remittances sent back from those overseas workers who may have had to work "on their backs" to make ends meet. Same goes for those tourist $$ that flow into places like Angeles, Subic and other areas. Maybe one fiscal year can be sustained, but a long term reduction in that type of money flow will begin to change political minds. Same as in places like Singapore, Thailand and other popular mongering locations. Not being able to send OWA out to other parts of the world to replace those that are out there who have stopped or moved on, and the whole cycle of revenue being brought in by bars and clubs can only be missed for so long. Don't let them fool you into thinking that it isn't a lot of money, because if it wasn't, and those do gooders had their way many places would have been closed a long time ago.

    Just like the current US election cycle shows, people will use this crisis to get what they want. Case in point the LA Public Health director being caught on the microphone talking about opening the schools after the November 3 elections, as if by that magic date if Trump loses all of a sudden the virus will go away. Not making light of the COVID, nor is this some global plot against Trump, but a politician will do what they can to get as much power and money for themselves and screw the people. Emergency declarations mean more money flow from the government, and for those who work the system they know how to "work the system" and get as much of that excess as they can until those at the top realize that overall more needs to be coming in from other sources.

    My long term guess, by the summer of 2021 things will start getting better. By late summer early fall of 2021 travel will see steady increases so that by late 2021 there will be an increase in flights and travel. How can I say this? Winter Olympics in China in 2022 and they could not live it down if they cancelled like Tokyo in 2020. Things will "miraculously" get better by then for the Games to begin.

  10. #13784
    Quote Originally Posted by Mogwai  [View Original Post]
    Actually it won't make much difference if they wear a mask or not. The virus is so small that it will go right through it. Unless it's a FFP2 or IIR mask, but that is most likely not the case.

    The majority of the masks that people wear worldwide offer very little protection.
    How does the country u are in now deal with this issue? Is it mandatory for masking ?

    I think It does make a great difference versus not masking, maybe not as foolproof as the mask you mentioned.

  11. #13783
    Quote Originally Posted by Mogwai  [View Original Post]
    Actually it won't make much difference if they wear a mask or not. The virus is so small that it will go right through it. Unless it's a FFP2 or IIR mask, but that is most likely not the case.

    The majority of the masks that people wear worldwide offer very little protection.
    The masks people wear are to protect other people from those who have the virus sending contaminated aerosols throughout a room or surfaces. To protect the weara they need to be ones with close seal and exhaust valves which keep the fit but don't protect others.

  12. #13782
    SambyFun, please clear out your inbox.

  13. #13781
    Quote Originally Posted by Datiao  [View Original Post]
    But chose to be ignorant that their stupidity of simple not wearing mask can cause another recurring wave of infection which will return them to the same dire situations.
    Actually it won't make much difference if they wear a mask or not. The virus is so small that it will go right through it. Unless it's a FFP2 or IIR mask, but that is most likely not the case.

    The majority of the masks that people wear worldwide offer very little protection.

  14. #13780
    Quote Originally Posted by Datiao  [View Original Post]
    Your examples are just a matter of gaining petty advantages. No big consequences.
    I'm guessing you are not a native English speaker. "Falling in line" has another metaphorical meaning in English that equates with compliance and obedience. My point was that Filipinos often find ways to resist complying with authority, rules, and even laws in many social contexts.

  15. #13779
    Quote Originally Posted by SoapySmith  [View Original Post]

    What you are observing about Filipino non-compliance with mask mandates and other covid rules is simply another form of "Filipinos don't fall in line."
    Your examples are just a matter of gaining petty advantages. No big consequences.

    These dick heads has been experiencing for the past 6 months the effects of the covid that cause thousands of lost lives, great economic impact that leads to huge loss of income and hunger.

    The Quarantine lock out from normal living etc etc.

    But chose to be ignorant that their stupidity of simple not wearing mask can cause another recurring wave of infection which will return them to the same dire situations.

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