Pattaya Reports

[David 2]

Anyway, with that bit of preliminary advice and some background, I am ready to proceed with the rest of the Secret story. I will say I have a number of stories to tell that I think will prove entertaining. I am kind of amazed looking back. I do think it may be fun to first hear from you guys about what you think happened, or is happening. Please feel free to state your predictions based on what has happened thus far, and I will invite updated predictions along the way.

We're roughly the same age and we both seem to have boundless energy. Here's hoping that your tale has a happy ending.

[HorseTrader]

In my last trip to Thailand in 2015 I hooked up with a girl I met online who was a tour guide. I rate her as a 7. She was the perfect companion, if she was a 9 or 10 I believe I would have married her.

And her Thai husband and both their extended families would have been far wealthier.

Yep, that happened with one of my friends. He married a Thai woman (without papers), then her Thai husband (and friends) showed up and encouraged my friend to leave Thailand without his valuables.

[GettingFedUp]

In my last trip to Thailand in 2015 I hooked up with a girl I met online who was a tour guide. I rate her as a 7. She was the perfect companion, if she was a 9 or 10 I believe I would have married her.

And her Thai husband and both their extended families would have been far wealthier.

[Turgid]

...............I still talk to a past Thai girlfriend, high class girl (Thai real estate owner, USA real estate owner, former Thai government employee, now 20+ years USA citizen). She is now happily married to a wealthy American. She not only warns me about falling for a BG, but she warns me about any Isaan girl who works in the tourism industry (hotels, airport, restaurants, massage, tour guides, etc.). She encourages me to have all the fun I want with Thai girls in the tourism industry, but never try to have a relationship with any of them.

Good luck.

In my last trip to Thailand in 2015 I hooked up with a girl I met online who was a tour guide. I rate her as a 7. She was the perfect companion, if she was a 9 or 10 I believe I would have married her.

[Paolo99]

I do think it may be fun to first hear from you guys about what you think happened, or is happening. Please feel free to state your predictions based on what has happened thus far, and I will invite updated predictions along the way.

I think you're still in a relationship with her and she probably did put some effort for you.

But I don't think that relationship would go anywhere far, except maybe if she considers you like a friend with benefit and has learned to respect you, but not like a boyfriend.

[Mr Enternational]

Any girl can fool foreigners but other Thais will have her sussed 5 seconds after she enters the room and will act accordingly.

There are no girls fooling foreigners. There are only foreigners fooling themselves. What you said holds in many many countries. Foreigner travels around the globe. Finds a hooker that he likes and decides to do nice things with her like go to a nice restaurant for dinner. He considers himself as stylin and profilin while all the locals in the vicinity are wondering what that guy is doing in a fine establishment like this with that hooker.

Back in February me and my girlfriend were driving around Brazil and stopped in a nice restaurant in a minor city. There was a 70 year old local man with like a 25 year old chick and my girlfriend whispered to me look at that guy with that hooker. We have a tendency to fantasize and romanticize, when to others (especially locals) it is as plain as day.

Besides, if you are paying barfines and shelling out money to this chick really what other proof do you need? You don't need any freakin tests. It is like the waking up a man pretending to be sleep saying. You know what you have yourself into. Why act like that is not what it is?

We have heard it all too many times: My hooker is different. Show up without money to see how different your hooker really is. If there is no more play when there is no more pay, then how was that different? You just have a regular old hooker like all the rest of the regular old hookers. Now excuse me while I go out to drive my Ferrari that everyone else in my neighborhood for some reason sees as just a normal Toyota.

[TripleX]

You remind me of my buddy, falls in love too easily.... Pattaya is sin city not the love boat. .

Its a bit long winded but he has got me hooked on his story. I know two girls that left working in Pattaya and went back to work in factories in Bang Bo and Samut Prakan 12 hours a day 6 days a week and its not because they were ugly it was because they didn't like the work. I think they thought they would come to Pattaya and get hooked up with a foreigner fast. I have seen girls go off to Italy or Norway with guys and they are usually back in a year or so. One hasn't come back though and man was she good. Still think about her. If any of you remember Malee from Ruby club. She seems to have made a go of it with a guy from the UK and good for both of them. Agree with you for the most part though.

[Goferring]

One way to test out any bargirl is to have a buddy she has never seen you with test her out.

The easiest way to test a girl, any girl, is to take her to a social event with people of all backgrounds present. If the only girls who talk to her or she can hold a conversation with are money hungry harlots then run. If decent girls speak to her and she naturally gravitates to them, then she is a keeper.

Any girl can fool foreigners but other Thais will have her sussed 5 seconds after she enters the room and will act accordingly.

Enjoy. G.

[Banana Boi]

One way to test out any bargirl is to have a buddy she has never seen you with test her out. This may be difficult for some of you self proclaimed good looking guys but try to get a guy better looking and younger than you. Don't get guys with a comb over like myself. Have your buddy see her for as many sessions as you did and pay her/buy her things/make the same promises as you did and see what her reaction is. I will almost bet the farm her reaction to your buddy will be the same reaction you get.

FL, hope things work out with you and Secret. You know me. I'm always super skeptical about these things.

[HorseTrader]

You remind me of my buddy, falls in love too easily. He comes out of the room and tells how lovey his girl was, how she kissed and let him hold her.

555 I do the same thing. But after ST together, I toss her out of my hotel and rest so I can do it again the next day. I must admit that I sent a few thousand baht to a couple of girls at the beginning of COVID, but stopped doing it as soon as they had a chance to get back to their home villages and live with family.

[HorseTrader]

...Please feel free to state your predictions based on what has happened thus far, and I will invite updated predictions along the way.

I'll make a prediction. If you haven't broken up yet, you will before the 3 year mark. 1-year is a short time for converting a BG to a reasonable lover for a western man. I do wish you the best of success with Secret.

I have one friend that married an Isaan BG and brought her to USA. After 1 year getting a fiance visa and 2 years of wedded bliss, he took her back to Isaan to visit her family. She got the itch for strange cock, got caught with a Thai man, and my friend left her ass at grandmother's rice farm. Divorced her in USA on the grounds of desertion.

I still talk to a past Thai girlfriend, high class girl (Thai real estate owner, USA real estate owner, former Thai government employee, now 20+ years USA citizen). She is now happily married to a wealthy American. She not only warns me about falling for a BG, but she warns me about any Isaan girl who works in the tourism industry (hotels, airport, restaurants, massage, tour guides, etc.). She encourages me to have all the fun I want with Thai girls in the tourism industry, but never try to have a relationship with any of them.

Good luck.

[Breadman]

I have not been on here in a long time.

You remind me of my buddy, falls in love too easily. He comes out of the room and tells how lovey his girl was, how she kissed and let him hold her. Half hour later I take her in the room and come out to tell him it was a porn star experience and she put her finger up my arse. They play the game whichever way its needed to be played in order to get the money. This board isn't for love stories, its for girls sticking their fingers where they don't belong. Pattaya is sin city not the love boat. You want the love boat find a province girl. Its like the college athlete going pro, putting his name in the NFL draft. Once you turn pro you always a pro. Can't go back to college and be the star on that football team anymore. Pattaya has a 'CLOSED' sign on it right now and it won't reopen until the weekend millionaires get back on the ground. Sad to say but this pandemic has created so many starving and desperate girls willing to do anything to provide food for their family, way more than the normal amount.

[Phazze93]

Greetings from paradise .
Happy Mid Autumn Festival

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[FL Hawk]

I have not been on here in a long time but have caught up on the posts and sheesh, things are sad in Pattaya due to CV! But as for many of us, this stupid pandemic terminated some ambitious plans I had regarding Thailand this year. I had planned a trip for April / May, and I probably would have come back again in August and certainly again in November / December (for which I still have an active hotel reservation I have not cancelled yet). My last trip to LOS was at the end of 2019 so again, like many of you, I am getting anxious to return. But I am not posting to discuss Thailand opening up again. Oh no. This forum has become boring so I am back to report on "Secret", the Soi 6 bar girl I managed to fall for last year.

For the newbies who may be interested in the story, my first post about her was on April 24,2019, post number 277798. That was before I started calling her Secret, so named as I was secretive about her real name and the bar she worked at. My last post about her, 28637, was posted a few weeks after I returned home in mid-September 2019.

Well, I think my reports were sufficiently clear to show I was trying to see if it was possible to establish a true relationship with a "special" Soi 6 bar girl. The common wisdom is to never attempt such a thing. The internet is full of horror stories, with only a smidgen of successful stories regarding farangs hoping to marry an Issan bar girl (BG). I felt Secret was special as she passed all the tests regarding how a BG out for money would behave in a variety of situations. You guys warned me but each test I gave her she passed. I did end my reporting with some words how I felt about love with a BG. My conclusions from that last post included the following verbatim:

Can real love be found with a bar girl? Apparently the answer is yes, though the story is not over. But it takes work and a lot of understanding. It may require giving her some money (just keep it real). It may also require a lot of luck a heck of a lot of luck and a friend of hers who is on your side. You will need patience, knowing Thai would help, and being fairly well off financially where you can take the girl places so she knows you can take care of her is a huge help. And number one, you need to choose your girl carefully. There are other girls on Soi 6 similar to Secret, but to weed them out takes time and luck. In my case, it was largely luck. Had things been just a bit different, I never would have gone into her bar. I guess, too, you need to appear honest, sincere, caring, reasonably attractive for your age I suppose, well mannered, funny, non- drinker or very light drinker and non-smoker helps, respectful, generous and heck, I don't know what all.


Now, should she and I actually have a relationship? That is a loaded question, but the logical response is no, we should not. But here I am, trying to live out what will be my last chance for passion in a relationship. Is having an affair, essentially, with a woman 30 years younger exciting? Yes, I suppose. Taking her on her first airplane ride, on her first trip to Phuket, on her first cruise? Yes, very exciting. Wise? I don't see how, but I think I will end the discussion here, as to say more quickly becomes unpleasant.

So, that was a year ago. What about now? Did Secret actually leave the bar as she promised to find legit work or did she stay / return to Pattaya and become a hardened bar girl? Or heck, had she actually been working as a BG for years and was playing me like fiddle?! But if she did leave Pattaya and did find legit work, did she come to dislike the long hours and low pay and come to miss the excitement and money Pattaya offered and decide to go back? Were you guys right and she was lying that entire time to me, or did I finally come to my senses and dump here before she took all my money? Where is she now, or do I even know or do I even care for that matter? Did she finally fall for me but I ran out of money so she dumped me when I could not afford an engagement ring? Did I discover she had other men sending her money and were seeing her in or outside of Pattaya, or was I truly the only one as she said? Did she get me to buy her a fancy car, pay for boob job and nose job and is now living with her Thai boyfriend in a house I built for her on the land she had a mortgage on that I paid off? Did I dump her after finding she was on Thai Friendly in Bangkok and she later begged me to take her back? Did I meet her mother who offered me her 17 year old virgin daughter if I married Secret? Or, are we in love and waiting for the pandemic to end so I can go marry her and see my baby son whom we created in Phuket last November?

I will provide answers. I will also give some suggestions and advice for those men who fall for a Bar Girl (BG) to help them discover what your "special" girl is actually up to, and how to decide if she is for real or, more likely, a fake or one simply leading you on for as long as you want to be led on. I mean, many of us manage to fall for a Thai BG and get taken as we are blinded by our love and cannot fathom the extent some of these girls will go to get your money.

So let me mention two YouTube blog sites regarding farangs, love and bar girls in Thailand. Many of you are probably familiar with the YouTube channel "Land of Smiles" blog with Simon, a former Pattaya bar manager. He tells some eye-opening stories about what Isan farm girls, corrupted by the life of a bar girl and hungry for money, can do to hapless gentlemen who just wants to find happiness with an attractive younger woman who will tell him what he wants to hear. (And the stories are hardly limited bar ladies.) His stories can take months for him to tell, but some will blow you way. There is also Mike on "Thailand Bound". He just tells the story over minutes vs. Months. Any man finding themselves falling for a bar girl should listen to some of these stories by Mike and Simon. Even if you think your particular girl "is different", you can hear actual stories where the man thought the same thing but ended up getting crushed in multiple and very creative ways! Hearing stories from both after I last left Pattaya has caused a few uncomfortable moments where I have to stop and think if Secret was acting like some of those deceitful girls. Fortunately, I do have a logical mind that generally self-limits my stupidity, and you may read of some that in my stories. But despite the doom and gloom predictions of falling for a BG, there is that rare exception. And for sure, there is one story Simon tells where you think the girl is pure evil but, in the end, things proved to be quite different. I was fighting back the tears watching it. Was Secret like that woman and I had tears of happiness for sticking with her? Or were my tears because she wasn't and my heart still breaks?

Before I start, let me provide some preliminary advice that has guided me along this journey. As I said in my original reports, "Actions speak louder than words. " FL Hawk's corollary to that is "If she acts like a BG, she is a BG. " If you fall for a BG, ALWAYS ask yourself if she is acting like a BG or more like a girlfriend (GF) or, at least, acting like how a potential or future girlfriend would act. Trust but verify. Keep a record of your interactions so, in a moment of sanity, you can go back and read them with a fresh mind. I use this forum to document original encounters. If you do that and find later that your original description of her is horrifying to you, take heed. That could be who she actually is, especially if she is still acting like that (as a BG). I saved the vast majority of my Line texts I had Secret, which has been helpful to remember things (in case she tries to change a story on you months later). And of course, watch what you spend. Think of money you spend on her as entertainment. Never spend more than you can afford to lose. I sometimes spent a little just to keep things going or see what might happen. Some might call it gambling. Think of the odds of success when you give out money and always make sure you are left with enough funds at the end so you could do it all over again. The worst would be win her then get dumped when she finds you have spent all the money!

Anyway, with that bit of preliminary advice and some background, I am ready to proceed with the rest of the Secret story. I will say I have a number of stories to tell that I think will prove entertaining. I am kind of amazed looking back. I do think it may be fun to first hear from you guys about what you think happened, or is happening. Please feel free to state your predictions based on what has happened thus far, and I will invite updated predictions along the way.

[Cusland]

I am a Sgt in the price police. In an establishment with what you consider hot girls. 6-9 s can be attractive.

You paid less than $100 for 2 naked Hotties.

Hmmmmmmm.

Kinnarree is not in Jomtien it's in Pratumnak.