Boca Chica

[Wrx2005]

Generally speaking.

A mans life and existence is like playing a video game machine. His common goal is to score points and become the champion. How it plays out when dealing with women? He attempts to do and say things to please the woman. Scoring points. His hope is that all of the cool shit that he does on a females behalf (scoring points) will reward him in some way. Loyalty, sex, appreciation, no drama, reciprocation, respect, her wanting to please him, look like a trophy etc. Thats all good, until he stops scoring points or somebody pulls the plug on the machine.

A womans life existence is like playing NFL football. There is a goal of happiness and other nice things to obtain, But she makes it almost impossible to reach that goal. Life with her is mostly full of downs, fumbles, false starts, penalties etc. With her, one is always trying to get at least a 1st down (peace). Every play that is made is a struggle to make this chick happy. (massive amount of plays with more downs) Even if you get to the goal line, the struggle to get there has very little reward. And don't get hurt and have to sit on the sidelines (not playing for her). She will quickly get a substitute to take your place. But of course that replacement will still have to play the game by her rules.

So if my sloppy analogy makes sense. The lesson to learn from it is: As a man don't get caught up playing a game of scoring points thinking a woman will appreciate your efforts and respect you. Because it may be a losing battle. Especially if she is playing a different game (Football) , expecting the man to do what ever it takes to get a 1st down with her. She doesn't want him to get to the goal line. Because he if does, he'll realize that there is really no reward for him there. His reward is supposed to be scoring downs for her, not looking for satisfaction for himself.

[JohnReter335]

I've always been a regular at the "Boat house" in Boca chica and hated the dirty west end with all its trash but not anymore. The west end is now called playa Maximo and it is nice and completely remodeled. Not many tourists wonder down that end because of its previous dirty reputation but its still mostly locals now and plenty of delicious eye candy. I wouldn't suggest going on Sunday because the Dominicans really come out and it's no self distancing. Only connection with the other side is the touts selling everything.

I would like to go here.

[Wrx2005]

You make a valid point. But it also bolsters what I was saying. They are not looking for a true relationship they're looking for financial support. We're not looking to build a family we just want sex. If you think it's anything more than that you're being delusional. If a relationship is based solely off him financially supporting you how real is it?

How many of us have had girls called us RFM? They are persistent and have no off button. Of course I'm generalizing there are exceptions to the rule. But you may hardly even know the chica. I silently study them in their own culture. They don't treat or expect that out of there men. They have a relationship between each other that's based on family and culture. Family is the glue of there Survival. Anything connected to that is how they live with pride. (Klk) Yes the men are chauvinistic. I agree many Dominican men Abandoned their responsibility as fathers based on our social standards. But at the end of the day; it's the Dominican man that is going to be there with her and not the gringo. He understands her and she respects him.

She knows the relationship she has with a foreigner has a short lifespan. The majority of Dominican women are not trying to be with gringos. But some will deal with a gringo if it's financially beneficial. It takes a special type of Chica to specialize and or seek in dealing with gringos. Prostitution is legal. However, the general society looks down upon women seeking prostitutional relationships.

That's why Sosua is what it is today. There's no other place in the DR where you can see such a huge concentration of foreigners and Dominicanas in one area. Only the delusional ones go there looking for a serious relationship. I don't know any designated place in the DR; where chica that prefer gringos can meet for serious relationships.

IMHO The reality is they know what we are therefore and we know what we are therefore. To take advantage of the legal system. Some of us are having sex with Chicas young enough to be our granddaughters. With the mentality of a 20-year-old. I can't even relate with 30-year-olds in my own country. I don't think they're on my level. With money we doing things that most of us couldn't do in the states. From ST with young 18 yr olds; to taking gorgeous dime pieces on a five day mock date. It's not a honest physical mental and cultural connection that the chicas are seeking us for. It's all about the Benjamins.

Okskool what I have learned the most from you is Learning to Establish and have a respectful understanding with your chicas. That's how I see you operating. I study my ex pat friends. As well as Gogo, WRX 2005, Sir Charles, Mr E, TomJ, The OG BQRIBS (rip). The best thing you can have with a Dominicana is a respectful understanding of dealing with each other. Enjoy the fantasy but understand it's an illusion.

You know I can write a post that's 12 pages long right? I wish I followed this thread and convo, but I only picked up bits and pieces here and there.

Bottom line if you want to see where a Dominicanas loyalty is to, stop all financial support. Or don't start any financial support. One distinct difference between a foreigner and a Dominican male, is that a Dominican male can give a Dominicana a child and can hover or bounce, give little to no support, and turn around and let that man give her another baby.

Now consider a foreigner. Would a Dominicana hook up with a foreigner who is not offering financial support right from the jump? NO. Most foreigners never ever get to test the waters, because they are too busy in rescue and save mode. And the women are expert at acting like they love the foreigners gentle, loving, caring approach. For the possibility of being rescued, and being supplemented, a DR woman will play along. If that what she has to do to survive, she can convince and encourage the foreigner to keep on doing what he was doing.

Generally speaking though, the DR man never had to do all of that. All he had to do is just be there. Have the babies, and let the family support the children that he fathers. Almost every DR woman that has children by a DR man claims they hate DR men. Do you ever hear DR women without children say that? I dont recall that. But check it. How do you hate DR men but every one of your children is by a DR man? No folks. The I hate DR man is for the gringos ears. Thats just reverse psychology to convince him that he is what she needs. Same thing goes if you ask a DR chick if she prefers white men over black men. What ever the color of man is in front of her, thats the man she prefers at the time.

In fact I wrote a whole piece a while back. You have The DR woman who does whatever the fuck she wants to do, then you have the DR man whose role is to father the children, the family structure supports every flaw of the DR man and woman, and it's role is to raise the children that the DR man fails to fully support, and it allows the female to do whatever the fuck she wants to do. Even if it means producing more children for the family to support. For the most part this is one of the most common examples within the DR culture.

The foreigner is just a tool to be used. A friend of mine calls it "slapping rocket boosters on a woman and propelling them into orbit". Once they get where they need to be, they can jettison the empty boosters and orbit without him. But as long as they have the capacity to attract more rocket boosters, a woman can choose that route. And she can also take care of any DR man, with the foreigners help. A womans loyalty to a foreigner is a manifestation of the level of security she is enjoying. Hypergamy in motion.

Note, women in the states have bamboozled men through relationships and marriage for decades. Why should it be any different for men in a foreign country? The bait is always the same. Get him through his lust. And take advantage of his need to feel loved and appreciated. Once a woman accomplishes that, he's all hers. The problem for men, they are blinded by their own folly. Many cannot believe that a woman is capable of a certain level of deception ( security masquerading as love, also men measure loyalty by she hasnt left him yet ) for yrs and even decades.

For women, it's not about love, it's about survival. A mans need to be loved and admired and respected is what women use to get what they want. Most men give it to them, without the woman having to ask for it or work for it. A lot of men are wired like that. Foreign men, I mean. Not the DR man. Many DR men keep their resources/money where it belongs. In their own pockets. And they despise the greedy and self centered nature of their women who hav meters attached to their pussies. But still, they love to fuck them and make babies.

All under the guise of acting like they are in love with the provider. Women love themselves, their children and their families. Men are simply a utility. And no woman is ashamed to use a man that allows himself to be used. The DR man will willingly help the DR woman to extract as much as she can from a willing, asleep foreigner. The truth is, there have been thousands of foreigners who eventually learned that their relationships or connections was really a facade, well orchestrated by the female. And the man choosing ignoring the signs. He never wanted to wake up from his fantasy. One last point. Check the age difference. If a man is 20 to 40 yrs older than the female, that is another clue not to ignore.

[Mr Gogo]

If you're going to be in Boca Chica, ask around for Seor Tranquilo, he's a good guy and very helpful. He'll be your best option to answer your questions.

As for "how many times," man, with most of those "ladies" you'll be lucky if you get one shot without being interrupted (papi, ya leche?) Yea, like they can't feel it when you shoot your load! They want to get paid and out of there pronto. Some would like to stay the night for the good bed and the air conditioning, not because of you. Now, if you were the worthless Dominicano she has at her shack waiting for your money, you could fuck her as many times as you wanted.

What I want to imply here is that nobody can really answer those questions. Many will try, but. Let's say (I was going to say something else), would it apply to you? Nothing is written on stone, just talk to the women and see what you can come up with, and then pray to the mongers God for them to make good on what they promised to you.

No matter what, if things don't work the way you thought, stay away from arguments and don't get drunk. Just try to find the guy I told you (I hope Seor Tranquilo is OK with my recommendation) and have fun.

Also, I hope they're not around anymore, but just in case, watch out for three fat, female rats who will accost you grabbing your dick while one of them try to get whatever you have in your pockets!

Happy hunting!

Senor Tranquillo has been a friend of mine for years, I called him yesterday. He was in the hospital and is making a slow recovery. Everyone is concerned.

[Rebel Monger]

If you're going to be in Boca Chica, ask around for Seor Tranquilo, he's a good guy and very helpful. He'll be your best option to answer your questions.

As for "how many times," man, with most of those "ladies" you'll be lucky if you get one shot without being interrupted (papi, ya leche?) Yea, like they can't feel it when you shoot your load! They want to get paid and out of there pronto. Some would like to stay the night for the good bed and the air conditioning, not because of you. Now, if you were the worthless Dominicano she has at her shack waiting for your money, you could fuck her as many times as you wanted.

What I want to imply here is that nobody can really answer those questions. Many will try, but. Let's say (I was going to say something else), would it apply to you? Nothing is written on stone, just talk to the women and see what you can come up with, and then pray to the mongers God for them to make good on what they promised to you.

No matter what, if things don't work the way you thought, stay away from arguments and don't get drunk. Just try to find the guy I told you (I hope Seor Tranquilo is OK with my recommendation) and have fun.

Also, I hope they're not around anymore, but just in case, watch out for three fat, female rats who will accost you grabbing your dick while one of them try to get whatever you have in your pockets!

Happy hunting!

Reading the forums it seems as though the going rate is 2000 to 2500 pesos for a pro, is that right? Also, is that for one pop? An hour? Two pops in an hour? Etc. Secondly, the "regular girls" that I might meet at the grocery or in the park. How does that work for them as far as the negotiations? Is there a guideline for you guys for those girls. Thanks.

BTW had to change my days. 10/11 to 10/19. Hope to run into one of you. Will definitely be spending time in SD also. Are all the casinos open, plan to also hit a few of them.

[DoubleDouble]

Reading the forums it seems as though the going rate is 2000 to 2500 pesos for a pro, is that right? Also, is that for one pop? An hour? Two pops in an hour? Etc. Secondly, the "regular girls" that I might meet at the grocery or in the park. How does that work for them as far as the negotiations? Is there a guideline for you guys for those girls. Thanks.

BTW had to change my days. 10/11 to 10/19. Hope to run into one of you. Will definitely be spending time in SD also. Are all the casinos open, plan to also hit a few of them.

[DoubleDouble]

I was leaning to Boca Chica and you guys convinced me and its a lot less hassle for flights for me than Sosua and I like the easy trip from the airport. I decided on the hotel lodging because it just seems easy and I love the generator comment. Seems like a hotel will point me in the right direction if I need something or assist if I have a problem. Given that I do not have any specific plans I decided to eliminate as many variables as possible for my home base. Thanks again.

Being well traveled and knowing Spanish is a big plus to your advantage. Also, not being there solo for P4 P, gives us insight to how you want to spend your vacation.

Hotels.

Pros: Traveling accommodations are met. (Hot water, safe, bed, and air condition). Most hotels have a front desk, cleaning staff, and security personnel to assist you during your time. Most hotels have backup generators because power outages are frequent. Someone will be there to address your problems.

Cons: less private, less space, usually more expensive but not much.

Airbnb.

Pros: more private, you're not renting a room, you're renting someone's apartment or home. You usually have a patio or balcony. You usually have a dining room and living room separate from your bedroom.

Cons: no one's there to address your problems. Most don't have backup generators.

Personally I think as an experience traveler you will do fine in an Airbnb. I recommend hotels for people less familiar with the area, culture, and language.
I definitely would suggest Boca Chica for you. Its easier to get the hang of.

[DoubleDouble]

This is exactly the info I was looking for and the tips I needed. Got the reservation at Frio. The sports bar sounds great and will definitely hit the piano bar, I will tell them you sent me, LOL. Looking forward to meeting all the other travelers also and to telling all the "helpers" to get lost. Thanks again.

Welcome bro!

Based on the information on the post, you know Spanish and know what's up cause your not really "new". I recommend Boca Chica if you don't want all the hoopla of Sosua super pros and the noisy, young crowds showing each other up over there. Boca is way smaller, quieter and simpler.

For a feeler, stay at FrioHot Hotel for at least 3 days. There's also a good sports bar across the street there but I forgot the name. But FH is a hotel restaurant and the food is very good just a smidge pricey-but when you see how clean and well kept the place is you'll see why!!

Try the fried calamari and the green bread spread-O M G!! They even got a money exchange right outside, or a bank up behind the hotel. It's chica friendly with free breakfast! Only thing is they don't have a pool, just a jacuzzi on the rooftop overlooking the ocean! But its a modern looking place and you have a chance to meet a few travelers there as well to point you to some other spots. One 4 block strip in town closed to traffic at night and VERY safe. Go to the Piano Bar!! If you like Spanish mamis they got them. If you like Haitian mamis (I do) you'll see some nice ones there and all over..

[Mr Gogo]

I've always been a regular at the "Boat house" in Boca chica and hated the dirty west end with all its trash but not anymore. The west end is now called playa Maximo and it is nice and completely remodeled. Not many tourists wonder down that end because of its previous dirty reputation but its still mostly locals now and plenty of delicious eye candy. I wouldn't suggest going on Sunday because the Dominicans really come out and it's no self distancing. Only connection with the other side is the touts selling everything.

[Tempoecorto]

I would say they are most comfortable with Dominican men since they share the same language and same culture.

That was a thoughtful post. I agree with all that you stated including the concluding line.

[Tempoecorto]

It's hard for a monger to really understand the role that Dominican men play in the daily lives of Dominican women.

This was revealing for me. I only see women whining. Thank you.

[OldKool]

I focus my activities in the DR because I like brown women and can pull attractive ladies with little effort. I am older and fine sport fucking tiring. Never the less Sosua provies a venue where even sport fucking can be done with ease. I have a high opinion of most of the girls I deal with. We all have our own requirements and standards. I have been coming for close to 10 years. The things that entertained me 10 years ago are nolonger my desires. I enjoy the ancillary things in Sosua as well as the women. The women are losing their luster because the quick and dirty action is not as thrilling as it use to be. So I use my Whatapp to fill the gaps. I am in my 60's but still having huge fun.

[Oakie]

We preferr Dominican women because they do things we like. TRUE Why is it hard to believe that they would preferr a man who can fullfill all their financial needs and not slap them around. We are way more gentle with them. Money Trumps culture all day long. I have heard many Dominican chicas express dislike for thier men. They get the pregnant and then disappear. How many girls do you know who have kids to feed with no help from dads.

It's hard for a monger to really understand the role that Dominican men play in the daily lives of Dominican women.

They are not just the hustlers and motoconcho drivers we see in Sosua or Boca, they are fathers, brothers, cousins and sons.

In 99% of the country, they are a chica's network of support, long after the monger moves on or goes home. They get her kids to school, to hospital, to fix the roof, get the water, and generally protect the family unit. And when the mongers ain't around in the middle of summer, who you going to call?

I have experience with families in barrios, and campos up in the hills of PP and Mocha. Without the guys around to organize the barbeques, cumpleanos fiestas, it doesn't happen. Wherever you see a Dominican family out enjoying themselves, you'll see always lots of young guys around in support.

I remember going from a rowdy bar in Cab, home with a local chica late at night, but I was hungry and out of cigarettes. Posted about it here. She called her friend and he whisked us through this gadawful (as I thought then) neighborhood.

Dropped us off in a tiny 3rd floor flat, and came back 20 minutes later, with beer, pizza and cigarettes. He waited outside to take me back to town, but I decided to stay over, because I felt safe.

Dominicans keep the puta economy relatively safe for the monger and putas, to keep the monger dinero flowing in. Simple economics. An informal "business plan", like a mob run casino.

Even the ex pat businesses, need a connection to the locals, their silent partners, to stay in business.

[GrownMan1]

We preferr Dominican women because they do things we like. TRUE Why is it hard to believe that they would preferr a man who can fullfill all their financial needs and not slap them around. We are way more gentle with them. Money Trumps culture all day long. I have heard many Dominican chicas express dislike for thier men. They get the pregnant and then disappear. How many girls do you know who have kids to feed with no help from dads.

You make a valid point. But it also bolsters what I was saying. They are not looking for a true relationship they're looking for financial support. We're not looking to build a family we just want sex. If you think it's anything more than that you're being delusional. If a relationship is based solely off him financially supporting you how real is it?

How many of us have had girls called us RFM? They are persistent and have no off button. Of course I'm generalizing there are exceptions to the rule. But you may hardly even know the chica. I silently study them in their own culture. They don't treat or expect that out of there men. They have a relationship between each other that's based on family and culture. Family is the glue of there Survival. Anything connected to that is how they live with pride. (Klk) Yes the men are chauvinistic. I agree many Dominican men Abandoned their responsibility as fathers based on our social standards. But at the end of the day; it's the Dominican man that is going to be there with her and not the gringo. He understands her and she respects him.

She knows the relationship she has with a foreigner has a short lifespan. The majority of Dominican women are not trying to be with gringos. But some will deal with a gringo if it's financially beneficial. It takes a special type of Chica to specialize and or seek in dealing with gringos. Prostitution is legal. However, the general society looks down upon women seeking prostitutional relationships.

That's why Sosua is what it is today. There's no other place in the DR where you can see such a huge concentration of foreigners and Dominicanas in one area. Only the delusional ones go there looking for a serious relationship. I don't know any designated place in the DR; where chica that prefer gringos can meet for serious relationships.

IMHO The reality is they know what we are therefore and we know what we are therefore. To take advantage of the legal system. Some of us are having sex with Chicas young enough to be our granddaughters. With the mentality of a 20-year-old. I can't even relate with 30-year-olds in my own country. I don't think they're on my level. With money we doing things that most of us couldn't do in the states. From ST with young 18 yr olds; to taking gorgeous dime pieces on a five day mock date. It's not a honest physical mental and cultural connection that the chicas are seeking us for. It's all about the Benjamins.

Okskool what I have learned the most from you is Learning to Establish and have a respectful understanding with your chicas. That's how I see you operating. I study my ex pat friends. As well as Gogo, WRX 2005, Sir Charles, Mr E, TomJ, The OG BQRIBS (rip). The best thing you can have with a Dominicana is a respectful understanding of dealing with each other. Enjoy the fantasy but understand it's an illusion.

[OldKool]

We preferr Dominican women because they do things we like. TRUE Why is it hard to believe that they would preferr a man who can fullfill all their financial needs and not slap them around. We are way more gentle with them. Money Trumps culture all day long. I have heard many Dominican chicas express dislike for thier men. They get the pregnant and then disappear. How many girls do you know who have kids to feed with no help from dads.