Tanzania

[Member #4673]

I am now in Sansibar.

Neddy.

Before the COVID era it was super overprice at least for accommodation. Any change now?

[Neddy69]

"It is what it is and most third world white mongers don't seem very sensitive to quality differences. " Not exactly true. Most white mongers do want quality. Including myself. Have I shagged a few less than my usual standard? Of course, so have most of us, with the exception of yourself I am sure.

The difference, as Neddy points out but you seem to ignore is you prefer a certain body type, which I gather involves a fat ass. Just because you and your african brothers may like them this way doesn't mean it's everyone's cup of tea. Your claim that Neddy couldn't shag some of these local princesses will never be proven because he doesn't WANT to fuck them, nor do most of us. Let us know when you do. It seems like you spend a lot of time and money for little actual reward.

I couldn't have said it better. In fact I am getting more and more discriminate. I am now in Sansibar. Did I go there for the women? No. As my sansibari rafiki told me. Women in Africa are like Coca Cola. You get them on any street corner. And Sansibar? If you like to chill covid free. Thats one of the best places on earth right now. The streetfood is the best in East Africa and add to that excellent dirt cheap weed. Totally relaxed vibes here. Unlike Kenya now where hungry street cops are on the take and collect money from muzungu for any small transgressions of Covid rules.

Neddy.

[Taiwan Laowai]

You sound like that big fat stupid boy in the schoolyard, bossing all the others. Instead of writing unappaling sermons. Show us by picture a girl you shagged in Dar.

If you did not found one of your taste. Just leave the place and move on. Its then simply not for you.

The sad fact is that what I like is very difficult to attain, for me now. So I only score occasionally and when I do, the last thing I want to do is piss off the girl by posting her photos. Things have gotten a lot worse for various reasons.

1. 20 years ago, I was 20 years younger which really helped a lot with the girls I most liked. In fact, it often seemed the girls who went with me didn't want or expect any money. Some were hoping for the long game and others just liked being with me.

2. 20 years ago, there was negligible fear from girls of having photos posted online. Also, governments didn't monitor that kind of stuff or check digital cameras and computers. Nowadays, so many girls are very suspicious and hesitant when you try to take their photos. You often need to build up initial trust which is not so easy. And each time you do post photos, you better be damn sure to never reveal their identity.

3. 20 years ago, it felt like my status, and that of western expats in general, was a lot higher in many parts of the third world. Social media did not exist and girls in general seemed a lot more humble and down to earth.

4. 20 years ago, prices for everything, factoring in inflation, seemed a lot lower in majority of the hotspots I visited. I was much wealthier, and again, higher status, on a relative basis.

So when I'm up for it, when I have sufficient energy and motivation, I spend most of my time hunting. Scores are only sporadic and occasional. If needed, I can tide myself over with a few decent but mediocre girls. But it's a real feat to get quality experiences with girls who rate 7 or 8 in my book. And I certainly wouldn't mind paying a lot for that, even if it doesn't go directly to the girl. For example, if I'm in one country and a girl I really fancy from another city or country suddenly shows interest online, I might spend several hundred on a last minute trip to go see her.

I just want to put out there that there's a lot more to quality mongering then how much you pay or don't pay. On the other hand, if you are completely blind to quality, then perhaps it makes some sense to focus on whether you pay $10 or $30 or $100 for a girl's time.

For me, and perhaps certain others, the mongering and dating bottleneck has little to do with money. Rather, it's about finding local girls we truly are interested in who will be interested or at least willing to share quality time with us in return for reasonable but not over the top (western or gulf priced) compensation. Also, if I had to spend $1,000 on logistics to have an extended quality experience with a 7 or especially an 8 who really liked me or were good enough actresses to make me think so, that would be a lot more fulfilling than staying put and using that $1,000 to have a revolving door of 30-40 5s and 6s or even a few skanky 7s.

I guess it just feels there is way too much emphasis on saving a bit of chump change while no attention is paid to the elephant in the room - the abysmal quality of most of the girls guys are getting for their nickels and dimes. Can anyone really say they've found anything other than skanks and dirty hos in places like Corner Bar? It's not just about looks but the whole package. Girls in that dive are high milage, disease ridden, uneducated, and pale in comparison to many of the girls you see in regular venues like grocery stores, university campuses, hospitals, etc.

[Taiwan Laowai]

"It is what it is and most third world white mongers don't seem very sensitive to quality differences. " Not exactly true. Most white mongers do want quality. Including myself. Have I shagged a few less than my usual standard? Of course, so have most of us, with the exception of yourself I am sure.

The difference, as Neddy points out but you seem to ignore is you prefer a certain body type, which I gather involves a fat ass. Just because you and your african brothers may like them this way doesn't mean it's everyone's cup of tea. Your claim that Neddy couldn't shag some of these local princesses will never be proven because he doesn't WANT to fuck them, nor do most of us. Let us know when you do. It seems like you spend a lot of time and money for little actual reward.

I don't like exaggerated out of proportion fat asses. I like girls who tend to rate highly with locals no matter in Makati, Meddellin, or Dar es Salaam. There are many factors which make them that way but suffice it to say, you almost never see them with visiting white sex tourists.

[SouthEaster]

"It is what it is and most third world white mongers don't seem very sensitive to quality differences. " Not exactly true. Most white mongers do want quality. Including myself. Have I shagged a few less than my usual standard? Of course, so have most of us, with the exception of yourself I am sure.

The difference, as Neddy points out but you seem to ignore is you prefer a certain body type, which I gather involves a fat ass. Just because you and your african brothers may like them this way doesn't mean it's everyone's cup of tea. Your claim that Neddy couldn't shag some of these local princesses will never be proven because he doesn't WANT to fuck them, nor do most of us. Let us know when you do. It seems like you spend a lot of time and money for little actual reward.

[Amadeuss]

About my taste, it's simple. .

You sound like that big fat stupid boy in the schoolyard, bossing all the others. Instead of writing unappaling sermons. Show us by picture a girl you shagged in Dar.

If you did not found one of your taste. Just leave the place and move on. Its then simply not for you.

[Neddy69]

Hello Neddy and others Dar's mans!

Can you advise me some cheap and good guesthouses in Sinza?

Last time I stay couple nights in The Atriums. Maybe you know cheaper place?

There is places for 20 k. Many of these are noisy as these double as ST rooms. Depending on your comfort level. Mine is clean room no AC. Serviceable private bathroom. And preferably cold running water. And if possible relatively quiet. Just walk around Sheikilango and Mori road area. In almost every side street there are guest houses ranging from 20 k to 35 k. Take your pick.

Neddy.

[Tanaw]

Hello Neddy and others Dar's mans!

Can you advise me some cheap and good guesthouses in Sinza?

Last time I stay couple nights in The Atriums. Maybe you know cheaper place?

[Taiwan Laowai]

Mate. Its not about money. Why should I offer a bird money for sex. Its called money for transport.
If a chica needs money she will offer her pussy in most cases. If thats not the case and she has a regular BF and a job she might refuse. For now. That doesn't mean I can't shag her next week for a bargain basement price.
Case in point. I dated a nice ass chica from. Mtwara twice and wasted 30 k on her without shagging her. Where did I meet her? In Samaki. My feeling was she was just an overpriced hoe. And my feeling as in most of times doesn't fail me. She texted me and offered to come over for 200 k! Which is like 70 euros. I laughed my head off. She told me how much she's paying rent a month. 200 k. LOL. There you go. It was beginning of the month. Did I shag her? No. Case closed.
Again. Quality has nothing to do with price. Its a market. With fluctuating market prices. I aim to pay what a local pays. Plus a suitable muzungu surcharge. Every market is different. And market price can change over time. Like Morocco. It was paradise 25 years ago. Now killed by overpaying sex starved gulf Arabs and european pakis amd some clueless package tourists paying 40 euros for the low cost carrier and 1000 or even 2000 dirhams for a sharmoota. I want more bang for my buck where prime pussy is plentiful. Subsaharan Africa. Unspoiled.
And again your definition of a 7 or 8 is totally different of mine. So no use compare Apples and Oranges. I shagged a pretty 19 year old with absolute zero english as much as I wanted for 20 k in my seedy Guesthouse in Sinza. She was not spectacular in bed. But unspoiled nice tits and great ass. In my classification she was a solid 8. In yours a zero. Because you limit yourself to a peculiar type of body. So. Your theories are just that. Theories.

Neddy.

About my taste, it's simple. Most of the girls I like would not go with you for what you offer whether they need money or not. In fact, majority of them will not go for a lot more. I've been all over the third world and have been doing this for over 2 decades and I see a pattern that permeates. It's the same in the Philippines.

There are plenty of girls who go to places like Smaki and Corner and most of them are really unappealing. The ones I really like whether in Philippines or Ghana or Zambia (rare) are not even going to hooker places. Yet some of them are selectively available to higher rollers or to guys who are younger or more attractive. Original Joh might have a shot at some of these girls because he is a young and fit smart looking local guy who and at least is working hard to do business. Some of the most attractive girls I saw in Village Market near where I stayed where with regular middle class looking African guys. One of my Uber drivers showed me photos of his wife and kids and she was also hot. Do you think he got her with his money? The reality is, the girls in those hooker joints are very mediocre at best so of course you shouldn't be paying much. But for me, I wouldn't be interested even if they were free. Most of the girls I really like are able to attract decent African men and aren't interested in mzungu sex tourists. I get on Tinder and yes, it's easy to get matches. But still, for every girl who likes me, several others don't.

One thing I'm almost sure of. If I hunted around Dar and found a few girls who I rate as 7 or 8, you would not be able to get any of them to sleep with you. As for Samaki, the only attractive girls I ever saw in there was one or two of the waitresses. But I usually go during the day and only went once at night to the one in Masaki. That night, all the girls I saw looked artificial and unappealing. It is what it is and most third world white mongers don't seem very sensitive to quality differences.

[Neddy69]

It seems so many mongers just need cheap hole to stick their dick in and maybe give them some sort of BJ or whatever they fancy. If that's all that matters to you, then yes Africa is easy, SE Asia is easy, and all the other hotspots are easy. But hell, it's more satisfying to wank off then sleep with trashy unattracitve women and that's free so what's the point.

Guys who really are discerning about physical quality will generally pay a lot more. For example, if you visit Morocco, you will see quite a few very sexy and stunning women and guess what. Gulf Arabs will reward that kind of quality for commensurate rates. If you are quality blind, then lucky you. You can get loads of women in Africa to shag for $10 or $20 bucks a pop and in your mind, they are no different.

In Milmani City Shopping Mall, I spotted a girl working in one of the electronic cellphone shops which for me was a solid 7 or even 8. But I bet you that if I challenged Neddy to somehow get an intimate date with her, he would fail even if he offered US $100 or 150. Many mongers can't seem to discern a girl like that from the typical Corner Bar girl. All that matters for you guys is price price price. A hole is a hole, right? In Philippines you don't even need to pay if that's the quality level you are happy with.

Africa is easy if you are after the lower common denominator girls. But if it's high quality you are after, you need to spend a lot more time hunting and a lot less actually scoring. Perhaps a city like Nairobi could keep you busy with a longer list of genuinely hot ladies. But the chump change you guys are talking about won't get you anywhere with those types.

If a revolving door of cheap uninspiring girls floats your boat, enjoy. Many parts of Afirca will be like a paradise if that's all you want.

Mate. Its not about money. Why should I offer a bird money for sex. Its called money for transport.
If a chica needs money she will offer her pussy in most cases. If thats not the case and she has a regular BF and a job she might refuse. For now. That doesn't mean I can't shag her next week for a bargain basement price.
Case in point. I dated a nice ass chica from. Mtwara twice and wasted 30 k on her without shagging her. Where did I meet her? In Samaki. My feeling was she was just an overpriced hoe. And my feeling as in most of times doesn't fail me. She texted me and offered to come over for 200 k! Which is like 70 euros. I laughed my head off. She told me how much she's paying rent a month. 200 k. LOL. There you go. It was beginning of the month. Did I shag her? No. Case closed.
Again. Quality has nothing to do with price. Its a market. With fluctuating market prices. I aim to pay what a local pays. Plus a suitable muzungu surcharge. Every market is different. And market price can change over time. Like Morocco. It was paradise 25 years ago. Now killed by overpaying sex starved gulf Arabs and european pakis amd some clueless package tourists paying 40 euros for the low cost carrier and 1000 or even 2000 dirhams for a sharmoota. I want more bang for my buck where prime pussy is plentiful. Subsaharan Africa. Unspoiled.
And again your definition of a 7 or 8 is totally different of mine. So no use compare Apples and Oranges. I shagged a pretty 19 year old with absolute zero english as much as I wanted for 20 k in my seedy Guesthouse in Sinza. She was not spectacular in bed. But unspoiled nice tits and great ass. In my classification she was a solid 8. In yours a zero. Because you limit yourself to a peculiar type of body. So. Your theories are just that. Theories.

Neddy.

[Slowalk]

Taiwan... ,
You go ahead and write as much as you want. I enjoyed reading you.

[Taiwan Laowai]

My sentiments exactly. Homeboy is writing thesis. It's really not that complicated in Africa.

It seems so many mongers just need cheap hole to stick their dick in and maybe give them some sort of BJ or whatever they fancy. If that's all that matters to you, then yes Africa is easy, SE Asia is easy, and all the other hotspots are easy. But hell, it's more satisfying to wank off then sleep with trashy unattracitve women and that's free so what's the point.

Guys who really are discerning about physical quality will generally pay a lot more. For example, if you visit Morocco, you will see quite a few very sexy and stunning women and guess what. Gulf Arabs will reward that kind of quality for commensurate rates. If you are quality blind, then lucky you. You can get loads of women in Africa to shag for $10 or $20 bucks a pop and in your mind, they are no different.

In Milmani City Shopping Mall, I spotted a girl working in one of the electronic cellphone shops which for me was a solid 7 or even 8. But I bet you that if I challenged Neddy to somehow get an intimate date with her, he would fail even if he offered US $100 or 150. Many mongers can't seem to discern a girl like that from the typical Corner Bar girl. All that matters for you guys is price price price. A hole is a hole, right? In Philippines you don't even need to pay if that's the quality level you are happy with.

Africa is easy if you are after the lower common denominator girls. But if it's high quality you are after, you need to spend a lot more time hunting and a lot less actually scoring. Perhaps a city like Nairobi could keep you busy with a longer list of genuinely hot ladies. But the chump change you guys are talking about won't get you anywhere with those types.

If a revolving door of cheap uninspiring girls floats your boat, enjoy. Many parts of Afirca will be like a paradise if that's all you want.

[SparrrowHawk]

Just returned from 18 day trip in Tz. Spent mostly in Dar but also few days in Zanzibar.

Most of my time was spent in Sinza. I stayed in king the hotel and spent a lot of time in Ambience / Corner Bar.

I payed like 25-30 k and had mostly good experience. I got to know many girls but there were not many white guys there. I saw one tall dude occasionally and short older guy once. The tall one seems to be pro as that place is kinda Shady.

I have mongered all over the world and kinda love the shady places so I felt right at home in Sinza. It's not everyone's cup of tea but it can be fun.

I also picked girls from Boardroom and also took trip to masaki where I visited the famous Q-Bar (waste of time) samaki Samaki and a club called Elementz. Honestly I did lot like those places one bit. I feel more at home in Capital pub in Kampala, Mtwapa in Mombasa, Santa Fe in Bogota and el centro in Medellín. Just as a reference point.

Did also visit Topps lounge in mikocheni and enjoyed the place. Mostly regular people there and better than overpriced masaki.

One big problem I encountered was overcharging almost everywhere. 9 out 10 times the bill was wrong and once it was double.

[Neddy69]

Hi guys,

I have been doing my mongering in Mombasa & The Gambia for many years but am not so experienced in Dar. (I brought a girl with me from UK the last time I went there, 5 years ago! Can you recommend girl friendly accommodation / hotels that are under 50 a night please? If anyone would like to hook up for a beer next month, that would also be appreciated. Cheers Del.

Very easy. QBar. You can trade them down to 35 $ for a big room. In the back its quiet. Just go down and take your pick in the bar. Lock up all your cash though. 2 mates of mine were ripped off. One for 200 euros the other one for 100 euros. Never pay more than 50 k TZS. Don't expect GFE like Kenya. Here its fuck and go. And some chicas in Samaki want 200 k. I say want. They'll never get it. Except from some dumbass overpaying UN guy with fat expense account. And another word of advice. This is NOT Kenya. But the party factor is ok. My boots on the ground in Mombasa report not really worth going unless you have contacts ready. In Anuba only some fat asses plying their trade. Party factor zero.

Neddy.

Who's trying to bed some hot muslim birds in Zanzibar. LOL.

[LondonDelBoy]

Gentleman. Its a buyer's market. I like particularly Samaki Samaki on Fridays. I had a f. G blast there. So was QBar. Rocking. Stay away from the around 70% expired hard cores you'll do fine. There's plenty of sweet semi pros hanging out to party. If you don't know how to spot them and have no game you're bound to be ripped off. Old African hands have no problems to pull sweet chicas. But they belong to the dying breed of the great white pussy hunter. Choose your prey wisely or it will maul you. Financially that is. I am just scratching the surface of this huge country. But what I see makes me fall irrevocably in love.

Kweli.

Tanzania has the good vibez man. Once you're fluent in Kiswahili you unlock heaven.

Neddy.

https://youtu.be/zsUrkNEpZq8

Hi guys,

I have been doing my mongering in Mombasa & The Gambia for many years but am not so experienced in Dar. (I brought a girl with me from UK the last time I went there, 5 years ago! Can you recommend girl friendly accommodation / hotels that are under £50 a night please? If anyone would like to hook up for a beer next month, that would also be appreciated. Cheers Del.