German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[Sirioja]

EL: I believe that 80% of the girls are still working during their period, they put a kind of sponge in their vagina that it is why they will not accept too deep penetration. Only if you have a close relation with a girl she will tell you that today she has her period, it is to show you a kind of respect, otherwise than don t, most of the girls have 0 respect for the men like some mongers have 0 respect for the girls.

Bloody rooms, had a great one few weeks ago at Globe and at GT Vienna on my discovery, are very interesting, same like real orgasms when girl ask you for a short break because too sensitive, then you see real reactions, no acting, at these moments. Deep orgasm can also make start period. If you ever had a woman in your life, did you tell her she was dirty while her period? I had sometimes sex with my girlfriends while their period with their blood on me and I call this intimacy and GFE sex experience, when no GFE experience for me to have diner with a girl I see going with anybody to be fucked for money, not image for a girlfriend for me, girlfriend is limited to love in bed with WGs, not the image for more illusion.

[ExpatLover]

EL: I believe that 80% of the girls are still working during their period, they put a kind of sponge in their vagina that it is why they will not accept too deep penetration. Only if you have a close relation with a girl she will tell you that today she has her period, it is to show you a kind of respect, otherwise than don t, most of the girls have 0 respect for the men like some mongers have 0 respect for the girls.

[Pessimist]

I am in a marital relationship, have used SBs for several years now and thoroughly enjoy FKK visits. I think each has its merits. Guys need to find their own equilibrium. It makes no sense in my view why a guy should seek advice from another on this matter, and why another guy feels qualified to lecture others on this issue; no more than I should dictate to you what flavor of ice cream is good for you. Also, GFE means different things to different people. An emotional connection is the last thing in the world I am seeking with any of these girls. It is easy to avoid such things in FKKs, so in that sense I prefer FKKs over sugarbabes. It is very possible that if I was living in Frankfurt on NRW, I might never have gotten hooked onto SB sites. Mainly, I am seeking physical gratification and FKKs serve that purpose very well. I do enjoy things such as DFK, DATY, Oral and BLS etc (what I call GFE sex) and in that purpose FKKs are good (but obviously they have gone down the hill for sometime). Some guys conflate GFE with emotional connection and that is definitely far from my mind but I can understand why some men need it / fall for it. I hear some guys spend more time talking in the FKK room than on sex and that is not fathomable to me but I again if that is what a guy needs, he shall pay for it. So, when you say GFE, are you talking about the sexual side of GFE or the emotional / mental connection side? With my sugar babes, obviously there is a different dynamic. It perforce involves more talking, more of knowing about each other, some dinner and movie dates etc. Luckily so far, I have able to keep all these babes at bay as far as me not truly caring for them while appearing to care for them in a superficial way. Don't get me wrong, I like them, I wish them well and would not want to see them get hurt in any way. But do I care for them as I do for a family member, even 0.01% of it? No, I don't. I enjoy being around them, their energy and youthfulness are invigorating and sex is always good; but as soon as I walk out the door and in my car driving back, my mind is already on family matters or work issues and other such things.

[Turgid]

Excellent post as usual. I feel I am somewhere between. I don't like picking a girl in FKK like I am out for shopping in a big store, but I also don't like all this fake GFE with a prostitute when I know she is pretending 100 %.

I don't mind the fake GFE as long as she gives good service. I have had fake GFE during which the girl tries to minimize penetration, that's a boner killer. I really dislike loud fake moaning, I have had occasion to tell the girl to keep quiet.

On another note do you guys like a girl to gyrate during sex? I basically like it as for example her moving her bum in a circular motion during doggy. Once I was banging this black hooker and she wildly gyrated during doggy. It was a bit too much for me and I asked her to tone down a bit. She said to me: "I'm not a robot" and continued to gyrate excessively. LOL.

[Mr Ho]

Meeting and holding a long conversation with a working girl in a club is all well and good. I have done that many times. The country where I have met the most intelligent working girls is Brazil. Among those I have met there have been a dental assistant and a journalist. In all fairness to them I do not speak Portuguese so still could not have gone out on a date with them and probably needed to be able to speak Portuguese to decide whether they qualify as per my criteria. So perhaps I should alter what I have stated by referring instead to an English speaking escort.

I tend to not to believe what they say about their occupation etc (even though some turned out to be true on sns), but I do think some of working girls are much smarter and better hearted than most of normal girls, I mean it takes some brain to work that floor in FKK to make big cash in short period of time to better their life for their after FKK career, which some of them actually do and for some of them I hope they do!

However, I stick to sex than too much conversation at FKK as I am there for sex, not to make friends or gain some knowledge even though I end up getting a lot of knowledge about FKK industry LOL!

[Mr Ho]

Excellent post as usual. I feel I am somewhere between. I don't like picking a girl in FKK like I am out for shopping in a big store, but I also don't like all this fake GFE with a prostitute when I know she is pretending 100 %.

I second that, they tell us real names sometime, but we do not even know their real names are real names LOL!

[Mr Ho]

Why don't you want to listen to normal women either? Not all women are waiting for men with their legs open like prostitutes! They want discussions and communication and much much more. Also remember that they have the best orgasm when you fuck their mind first. And you can't fuck that when you don't want to talk with them!

I agree, but I am past that! I understand what you mean, but as I quoted, but somehow deleted by moderator for whatever reason, I mentioned about the quote by Karl Lagerfeld, which goes "I do not like having sex with someone I love", this quote is something I resonate with, I do give understanding those who like to have sex with someone they love as a person even she is old, fat or not so pretty etc, that is emotional playing big part even in sex!

However, even I understand those who put so much focus on emotion even in sex, for me I only put beauty when it comes to sex and there are so many things I like to do with young beautiful girls that I do not want to do it to her if I do love this person as a person among other reasons as well!

So most people involve emotion to sex which I do give understanding, but for me I put only beauty in sex, that is the difference. I do have amazing GFE session, maybe bit more hardcore and dirty than you and to your taste, but I do not necessary have to obtain connection to have such sex with prostitute or escort as we are in sex forum and we are talking about prostitutes or escort.

I do add that with some regular, I become kind of mild friend as I repeat and time goes by and as I get to know them as we do chat a bit in room and even eat together sometimes after or before the session in FKK resty area, but I am conscious, mature and experience enough to know what happened in FKK or escort no matter how good stay there period!

As for emotional connection, I do it with friend both male and female and also with dog, so I do not need to have emotional connection with prostitutes or escort to have good sex!

[Alessandro527]

Yes, listening is important in most cultures, but I am saying I do not want to listen to bullshit of prostitutes to begin with, but also I do not like to listen to normal women if I have a choice, so escort and FKK works great for me though I do have to listen a bit LOL, but it is limited comparison to normal date scene as FKK and escort is mainly pay to sex culture and no courting is required though some monger pay to do that, to make her act as girlfriend!

Why don't you want to listen to normal women either? Not all women are waiting for men with their legs open like prostitutes! They want discussions and communication and much much more. Also remember that they have the best orgasm when you fuck their mind first. And you can't fuck that when you don't want to talk with them!

[Alessandro527]

There are clearly as many types of guys as you can imagine. But here it's clear there are at least two broad categories: Guys who want to just have sex and guys who want a "girlfriend experience". And by GFE here I mean more than DFK and BBBJ. I mean an emotional "feels like a girlfriend" experience. I know this is laughable to the "just have sex" guys but please don't judge. Some guys need both halves.

To be fair there are guys in the middle also. In fact FKK is a great middle ground. If you simply went in and saw a lineup (or a fishbowl like they have in parts of Asia) grab a girl and fuck it would not be nearly as awesome as FKK. The FKK is an EXPERIENCE and that is about more than just sex. You are enjoying the atmosphere. The feel of all the girls wanting to take you. There is no arguing there is a powerful emotional component to FKK.

And I would agree FKK is one of two best formats on the planet for a hybrid of sex and some emotion for type 1 guys with some type 2 leanings. The Boate of Brazil is the other (feels like a regular nightclub but all the girls are pro / semi and has onsite rooms).

But there is a whole nuther world of type 2 guys. Guys who enjoy full GFE and that is found in Sugar Daddy Sugar Baby dating like Seeking Arrangements. (There is a thread for this under General Dating Agencies). Whoever said paying a pro for dinner dates and overnights is a bad deal is right. It's definitely fake and prohibitively expensive. But SBSD is the perfect itch scratcher for type 2 guys. The girls (done right) are non-pro or semi-pro. There is real chemistry (or so good you can't tell) and emotion and a very girlfriendy vibe. And of course waaaay more time together, for a manageable cost. (Remember an HOUR in the US with a pretty pro is $400 and up - ouch!).

Excellent post as usual. I feel I am somewhere between. I don't like picking a girl in FKK like I am out for shopping in a big store, but I also don't like all this fake GFE with a prostitute when I know she is pretending 100 %.

[Turgid]

It's too bad you can't say you've ever met a working girl with those qualities, especially given how long you say you've been mongering. Since the 70's! Well, I most certainly have met many working girls who are knowledgeable and know how to hold an intelligent conversation. That said, given where I met them, I wasn't interested in dating them or anything like that. Let's just keep it in the club or wherever we met. And then let's just have sex. Maybe I will see you the next time. And maybe I won't. Seems to me that if you've been patronizing tutes since the 70's, but say you've never met a knowledgeable one, that you just haven't been willing to give anybody a chance, and don't care to. That's fine too though. After all, at the end of the day, most of us mongers just want a good fuck at a fair price, and that's it!

Meeting and holding a long conversation with a working girl in a club is all well and good. I have done that many times. The country where I have met the most intelligent working girls is Brazil. Among those I have met there have been a dental assistant and a journalist. In all fairness to them I do not speak Portuguese so still could not have gone out on a date with them and probably needed to be able to speak Portuguese to decide whether they qualify as per my criteria. So perhaps I should alter what I have stated by referring instead to an English speaking escort.

[Gino02]

There are clearly as many types of guys as you can imagine. But here it's clear there are at least two broad categories: Guys who want to just have sex and guys who want a "girlfriend experience". And by GFE here I mean more than DFK and BBBJ. I mean an emotional "feels like a girlfriend" experience. I know this is laughable to the "just have sex" guys but please don't judge. Some guys need both halves.

To be fair there are guys in the middle also. In fact FKK is a great middle ground. If you simply went in and saw a lineup (or a fishbowl like they have in parts of Asia) grab a girl and fuck it would not be nearly as awesome as FKK. The FKK is an EXPERIENCE and that is about more than just sex. You are enjoying the atmosphere. The feel of all the girls wanting to take you. There is no arguing there is a powerful emotional component to FKK.

And I would agree FKK is one of two best formats on the planet for a hybrid of sex and some emotion for type 1 guys with some type 2 leanings. The Boate of Brazil is the other (feels like a regular nightclub but all the girls are pro / semi and has onsite rooms).

But there is a whole nuther world of type 2 guys. Guys who enjoy full GFE and that is found in Sugar Daddy Sugar Baby dating like Seeking Arrangements. (There is a thread for this under General Dating Agencies). Whoever said paying a pro for dinner dates and overnights is a bad deal is right. It's definitely fake and prohibitively expensive. But SBSD is the perfect itch scratcher for type 2 guys. The girls (done right) are non-pro or semi-pro. There is real chemistry (or so good you can't tell) and emotion and a very girlfriendy vibe. And of course waaaay more time together, for a manageable cost. (Remember an HOUR in the US with a pretty pro is $400 and up - ouch!).

Good observation. Did you notice that the girls who fuck for money (pro like FKK girls or fulltime escorts, semi-pro, non-pro) are also primarily two types? One type are the girls who enjoy the conversation and time spent together with some sex, and the other type hates it when some guy keeps talking giving her headache. I heard it from many FKK girls that there are some guys (interestingly, mostly tourists) they don't like to go with anymore because he talks too much bullshit and gives her migraines instead of a good fuck and maybe an orgasm LOL.

Many (not all) FKK girls actually love the lots of sex aspect of the job, and moves to be an escort when they get bored of too much sex (and then try to minimize the sex part of it while keeping the earning level same).

[Steve 9696]

She wasn't an escort but a SB on all the occasions I've done that. Twice was a university student, one was an ex ballerina, and the most beautiful of all was a journalist.

There are clearly as many types of guys as you can imagine. But here it's clear there are at least two broad categories: Guys who want to just have sex and guys who want a "girlfriend experience". And by GFE here I mean more than DFK and BBBJ. I mean an emotional "feels like a girlfriend" experience. I know this is laughable to the "just have sex" guys but please don't judge. Some guys need both halves.

To be fair there are guys in the middle also. In fact FKK is a great middle ground. If you simply went in and saw a lineup (or a fishbowl like they have in parts of Asia) grab a girl and fuck it would not be nearly as awesome as FKK. The FKK is an EXPERIENCE and that is about more than just sex. You are enjoying the atmosphere. The feel of all the girls wanting to take you. There is no arguing there is a powerful emotional component to FKK.

And I would agree FKK is one of two best formats on the planet for a hybrid of sex and some emotion for type 1 guys with some type 2 leanings. The Boate of Brazil is the other (feels like a regular nightclub but all the girls are pro / semi and has onsite rooms).

But there is a whole nuther world of type 2 guys. Guys who enjoy full GFE and that is found in Sugar Daddy Sugar Baby dating like Seeking Arrangements. (There is a thread for this under General Dating Agencies). Whoever said paying a pro for dinner dates and overnights is a bad deal is right. It's definitely fake and prohibitively expensive. But SBSD is the perfect itch scratcher for type 2 guys. The girls (done right) are non-pro or semi-pro. There is real chemistry (or so good you can't tell) and emotion and a very girlfriendy vibe. And of course waaaay more time together, for a manageable cost. (Remember an HOUR in the US with a pretty pro is $400 and up - ouch!).

For those that remember the flying Thifany to London experience this goes to show the two sides. In Brazil we spent time together in the Boate. A night club experience but primarily sex. And London was primarily a girlfriend experience (full week together) and sex as part of it. For some guys this is where it's at and I am one of them.

I love FKK and I love the Boate. And Moscow and Japan and Thailand and will never stop doing them (Covid willing) but I truly love the Sugar Baby scene. I am a type 2 guy like some of the others speaking up here. Recently I arranged to fly a girl I was with for two nights in December to another city where we will spend the weekend together. I know this sounds so strange and not worth it to Type 1 guys. But for those who are type 2 there is nothing finer than kicking about together and then bringing it full circle to sex at the end of the night (and again in the morning!). This is completely addictive for a type 2 like me. (PS I didn’t know I was a type 2 until the Thifany experience and then I was hooked).

But as soon as I can travel I will join you at Sharks ALSO. Let's all enjoy ALL the formats. And thank our lucky stars they exist! See you guys at Sharks!

[Mr Ho]

For me dinner, cinema, shopping, long chats, etc. only make sense with a girl who is knowledgeable and a good conversationalist; I've not met any escort of that nature. Wining and dining an educated professional can be fun in itself but not getting any after the expense is BS and is the norm.

I just want stunner level beautiful girls whom I can fuck and fuck me also in anyways that I desire on that day which I happily get and been getting since age 17 LOL!

I can have good conversation with my friends whether they are man, woman or whatever, but to fuck I need many different stunner level beauties one after another every year! I do not need to talk to these girls, I want to have best sex with them that echoes in eternity and hey, it echoed still LOL! I got memories everywhere! This is what matters to me!

I also quote Karl Lagerfeld said that I also like and resonate with "I do not like to sleep with people I love!

[Mr Ho]

EL: I was married 25 years, lived with my ex 30+ years without going to another girl, after that 15 years of mongering with 1000+ experiences. Since 2018 it is more and more difficult more me to find young, fresh, natural beauties in the FKK, some possibilities still exist in German escort agencies but also more and more hard. May be also I am looking for something I can't find so I protect myself from the sex addiction, nevertheless since that I drastically reduced my FKK visits and escorting, in 2019 for example probably 10 FKK visits, 0 room.

I don't want a fix relation, the way it works now, several nice long weekends through the year, with one of the 2 beautiful girls, we know each other very well, 0 stress just happy to meet and have good time together they are free and I am free.

I guess you are from Japan or at least Asia, please don't tell me that listening is bullshit, this is really part of this sophisticated culture, listening, speaking, explaining.

Yes, listening is important in most cultures, but I am saying I do not want to listen to bullshit of prostitutes to begin with, but also I do not like to listen to normal women if I have a choice, so escort and FKK works great for me though I do have to listen a bit LOL, but it is limited comparison to normal date scene as FKK and escort is mainly pay to sex culture and no courting is required though some monger pay to do that, to make her act as girlfriend!

Early 2010's had better line up, and me too have difficulty to find, but as I wrote earlier, I am like a sharp shooter, I spend hours till I find someone to session with and this is no exaggeration, yes hours! LOL.

Sex addiction is good thing as long as you do not break law or disturb others, I love sex and I can never get enough of young stunner girls to fuck, but I must admit, I am so used to fucking most beautiful girls that my hurdle is so high for beauty and service quality I want!

[Mr Ho]

I guess there are two categories of mongers. Those who see all women like holes and those who want something more like EL.

I like something more too in order to create the right chemistry to boost my sexual desire for the girl but I wouldn't do all that shopping and dinner thing. It is too fake for me when I know it is all about money.

I believe those who go in FKK and see them like holes have failed with women in real life and feel special just by fucking prostitutes.

Chemistry is there once the talk begin or there is not, so no need for dinner and bullshit talking, in FKK I has one of most amazing sex with chemistry, but there was no need to go to shopping or dinner or talk some bullshit, just need to discuss a bit about service and general chit chat is enough to build chemistry, and sometimes girls shows you pic of her life back home, but I do not like it or dislike it or hate it as I am not too into it, and beside photos, I do not believe too much in what they say, I mean in most cases we do not even know their real names are real or not LOL!