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  1. #40899
    Quote Originally Posted by Shamester  [View Original Post]
    You must be able to speak Spanish to succeed in Cali. The 2 popular clinicas are good options.

    No different than Medellin or Bogota for Spanish.

    IMO the music scene is overrated.
    If you're not into Salsa, it might be overrated. If you're into Salsa, it's definitely not. The week of La Feria, you can see 1 or 2 world-famous bands each day / night. I'm talking El Gran Combo, Hermanos Lebron, Grupo Niche, etc. (no Reggaeton, Bachata, Merengue, etc, only Salsa). The only thing I know of where you can approach that type lineup is during a festival in Cuba, like the annual Jazz Festival in Havana.

    Anyway, my point is if you're going to be in Colombia for the week between Christmas and NY, the best place to be by far is Cali.

  2. #40898
    Quote Originally Posted by Frank11  [View Original Post]
    In real life dating not (hookers not seeking not escort). I would never pay for a women's dinner during the courting phase. I expect friends pay 50/50. Because if I take her out to dinner three times and then she says she's not interested in me that would put me in an awkward position because I paid three dates for nothing.
    Plus I broke my back earning the money at work for those three dinners.
    For Free dates and courting I will just take the girl for a walk at the park.
    In real life, whoever does the inviting picks up the check. Isn't that a universal?

  3. #40897
    Quote Originally Posted by GeneHickman  [View Original Post]
    Agree it matters. Just like with economic opportunity and prosperity come the rise of feminism and fewer women out to make us happy. Neither can be stopped. Roll with it.

    There are a lot of avenues opening up to exploit the gap between lonely sexless men of which there are hordes in the west and poor, available and decent looking chicas in the poorer countries, and more and more of this will unfortunately go virtual. It is what it is. But agree I won't be supporting it. Covid or not, habits get formed.
    Interesting ideas that you added to the conversation. Just to add a few more things. Some girls do make money with WebCam. However it isn't an easy answer. Being a cam girl or being associated with these sex industry jobs come with a huge stigma which is very real. There are social emotional consequences. I'm not going to dive deep into the issues but they are in the news and the girls have told me about it too.

    Don't believe? They have cried on my shoulder talking about these things.

  4. #40896
    Quote Originally Posted by Frank11  [View Original Post]
    In real life dating not (hookers not seeking not escort). I would never pay for a women's dinner during the courting phase. I expect friends pay 50/50. Because if I take her out to dinner three times and then she says she's not interested in me that would put me in an awkward position because I paid three dates for nothing.

    Plus I broke my back earning the money at work for those three dinners.

    For Free dates and courting I will just take the girl for a walk at the park.
    Different culture here. In Colombia even with locals men are expected to pay. So I'm ok with paying for dinners and taxis.

    If I'm in the USA I always pay as well but that's just me.

    I don't wait 3 dates. They know based on the restaurant I take them too they're giving it up on the first date.

    However if a girl still pays half the bill after I ordered top notch steak bottle of wine and a shot of expensive whiskey then she's earned the right to hold out the pussy LOL.

    But if after the first date I don't get the pussy there is no second date. And so far I've never had an issue.

  5. #40895
    Okay guys this has been the trickiest scammer so far. She even confirmed her identity through video.

    A girl on seeking.

    1st red flag after agreeing to videoconference she asked for an up front gift so she can have lunch with her girlfriend.

    2nd red flag she doesn't show up for the videoconference.

    3rd red flag she doesn't reschedule the videoconference and disappears for 4 days after the videoconference.

    She says her phone was getting fixed and that's why she was away.

    4th red flag all of a sudden she and her girlfriend owe a business partner 200,000 each in a clothing sale. She wants 100,000 upfront through PayPal so she can get rid of this guy who she claims is angry and threatening her.

    5th red flag she says she can only come over at 1 AM and since it's a three-hour date it ends at 4 AM. She says she is okay with staying up late. Suuure. Look how sly she is offering to come over at a time when she knows 98% of people would rather be sleeping. I mean what's the hassle can you just come tomorrow at 8 PM so we can all sleep well?

    While she is asking for money I mentioned maybe you should do the videoconference this will help us build trust and confidence each other. So she does videoconference and her identity matches the photos. At 12 AM before going to sleep I message her. But of course she doesn't reply even though she said she's available at 12 AM.

    6 red flag the next day during the afternoon she asked for 100,000 up front so she can pay the guy and then come over later that afternoon. The lies begin to add up. She claimed the debt would be cleared the previous night and she owed 200,000 not 100,000. And if she owes some much money why doesn't she come over and get her gift? But of course she only wants money up front. After I politely tell her I will only give her presenTS in person, she disappears on Watts app. The app indicates she has received the messages but has not read them.

    This girl asked for upfront money and gifts 3 times. Offered to come over at an unreasonable hour. And made up a story with loose ends.

    What she doesn't understand is if she were an honest hard-working person that can be friendly around otheRS she would have made the money. Don't let your guard down.

  6. #40894
    Quote Originally Posted by LoveItHere69  [View Original Post]
    Hot 9 and her slightly older 7 sister told they can make lots of money on web cam. I told her the lock down is over so that money will be drying up. She may or may not do it.

    Video and pictures are BS.

    (reminder story I posted before) A girl I found at Botero park, who I had sex with, tried to get me to download some App so she could send me pictures for money! If I was an idiot like some of you and would have sent her money for pix, I would then never get any real sex again. Just virtual sex.

    Then if these 3 girls make money at it then they tell their friends. It matters.
    Do you think their friends don't already know about webcam? When I was recruiting webcam models, nearly every hooker I talked to had tried it, or knew someone who did.

    Actually, the end of the lockdown, or more precisely, the economy recovering, means more money spent on webcam. There's not a big crossover between webcam customers and mongers. There are some who do both, but most are either or.

    I wouldn't worry too much about it. When they find out it takes 6-8 weeks of 4-8 hour days, just to get to where they make as much as they do hooking, they'll be back on the streets.

  7. #40893
    Quote Originally Posted by KilledSoul  [View Original Post]
    Never heard this before.
    I've never heard it, but I've experienced it. When I was reaching for my phone every 30 seconds, my sessions were not as good as when my Spanish improved to the point of having basic conversations.

    "Chupalo y mirame" is more effective if you don't have to pick up your phone and type in "suck it and look at me." Especially when autocorrect gives you "Pata lo why mira me."

  8. #40892
    Quote Originally Posted by Frank11  [View Original Post]
    Next time a girl asks me for 500,000 I will say 50,000 per hour because I know you're making millions with your WebCam. WebCam girls are filthy rich and then they asked for 500,000? And the girl 10 at giusto offered me 40,000 per night because her pussycat was wet. At least that is what she said. I countered her offer with 25,000 per night. I am laying down the law in COL. fuck them bitches. If they have a WebCam, they are wearing high heels, and a baseball cap, I know they have money. So I always ask for 25,000 pm in that case.

    Tell these pitches the sheriff is in town. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyP9CSRSxRk
    Let us know how all that works out. If you go that route, I know of some stores in Colombia which sell excellent hand creams. You're going to want some nice soft hands, because your hands will end up being your only date.

    Why does everyone make it so difficult? If you look at a restaurant menu and see the cheapest entree is $150 do you yell at them that you'll only pay $15? Walk your ass down the fucking street to McDonald's.

    If a girl asks more than you're willing to pay, just tell her, nicely, what you pay and thank her for her time. She'll either hold firm or come back with a lower price. If you treat her with a bit of respect, she'll think of you when she needs the money. If you act like a spoiled brat, not only is she forever out of your reach. She's going to let 20-100 other girls know not to have anything to do with you. Before long you'll be lucky to find anyone under 40 who will accept a date with you.

    It's incredibly simple.

    1. Either ask her price or tell her what you will pay.

    2. Talk nicely to her.

    3. If her price is more than you will pay, tell her what you'll pay.

    4. If she isn't willing to accept your price, tell her you understand, thank her and tell her maybe you will talk to her another day.

    5. Move on to the next one. Repeat as necessary.

    If you're going to be insulting and obnoxious during the price negotiation, why would she want to bother with you?

    Ever try to rent an apartment, or buy something off a private seller? Try that "laying down the law" approach and see how well it works.

    Treat people with respect. Deal with them fairly. Be nice. You'll find that you'll pay less and have a lot more options, along with much better experiences.

    Or you can try it your way. Not sure why you would fly to Colombia just to sit in your room angry all day.

  9. #40891

    Luminus your fired

    Today she said mucho money mucho sex. I said no dinero. Just a few gifts. She said ok then gifts no sex. I said no sex then take care and find someone else who pay you mucho money. So lets see who gives in. But your fired LOL.

  10. #40890

    I HAVE BEEN WITH A FEW GIRLS WHO WERE FRUSTRATED I couldn't SPEAK MUCH SPANISH

    And after a few minutes they literally stop using the translater LOL. It was like you figure it out lmao.

    Quote Originally Posted by KilledSoul  [View Original Post]
    Never heard this before.
    .

  11. #40889
    Quote Originally Posted by Incrociatore  [View Original Post]
    On Tinder there is a proliferation of girls with their amazon wish list or they onlyfans links. But also there are girls who like dinners out in expensive restaurants, and even after a few dates they do not give you anything in return. And in the meantime, between a date and another, they ask you for the nails, the hair, or whatever they need. It happened to me twice. Girls were stunning, but they didn't really have any interest in my person but just in my money. So be aware, because these women are the worst.
    They are not the worst. All you have to do is say no. Why you can't just say no? Because you don't want to miss out on that pussy that is why. So you throw money at it.

    First off, you should know if a chick is out of your league. That is half the problem; guys are trying to go out of their lane. Same as all these big stars get famous and marry a chick that would not have looked at them twice before they were rich and famous. Then before you know she has divorced him and taken half his shit.

    You think I am out here trying to holler at chicks that have pictures in their profile where they are on yachts in bikinis and shit? Nope. Because I already know what they are about. Like Jj said about me before, I am after simple chicks that live normal ass lives and work normal ass jobs, not chicks that want to portray themselves as supermodels when in actuality they don't have 2000 pesos to rub together. They were ballin on the yacht, but as soon as the dude that was paying for it all sent them home, they turned back into pumpkins. You each want a fantasy from the other. Just because it glitters does not mean it is gold.

  12. #40888
    Quote Originally Posted by Incrociatore  [View Original Post]
    But also there are girls who like dinners out in expensive restaurants, and even after a few dates they do not give you anything in return. And in the meantime, between a date and another, they ask you for the nails, the hair, or whatever they need. It happened to me twice. Girls were stunning, but they didn't really have any interest in my person but just in my money. And it's a trend in big cities like NY or London. They manage to handle multiple men at once, and some maybe very generous when they are courting a girl. So be aware, because these women are the worst.
    A decent restaurant in Colombia is like $20. The purpose of taking a woman to dinner for me is to find out if she is worth an investment of my time and money and if I find her attractive in real life. Taking a woman to get her hair done is not going to help me in any way with that. That is a reward to a woman who has pleased me in and out of the bedroom or one I care about.

    I think most women without much money fall into the category about wanting to take money from men and have sex with them but not feel like a prostitute. For those women, this is about dipping their toe in and not feeling like they have sold their soul. Dinner is a chance for me to tell them you can fuck me and not feel badly about it.

    Guys who stupidly proclaim that is still prostitution miss the point. You are not going to have a good experience or get laid if the woman feels like a working girl.

    For the most part, though, taking the working girl who has accepted what she is to dinner is a no win proposition. You are better off saving your money for sex. The exception is the woman who can give me as much pleasure with her company as with her orifices. I grant you such women are very rare.

  13. #40887

    Guest friendly hotel question?

    Quote Originally Posted by GeneHickman  [View Original Post]
    Agree it matters. Just like with economic opportunity and prosperity come the rise of feminism and fewer women out to make us happy. Neither can be stopped. Roll with it.

    There are a lot of avenues opening up to exploit the gap between lonely sexless men of which there are hordes in the west and poor, available and decent looking chicas in the poorer countries, and more and more of this will unfortunately go virtual. It is what it is. But agree I won't be supporting it. Covid or not, habits get formed.
    I read online and someone said Ibis hotel at Medellin is guest friendly without having to pay joiner fee even that person bring a different girl to the room every night. Can't someone verify that?

  14. #40886
    Quote Originally Posted by LoveItHere69  [View Original Post]
    Hot 9 and her slightly older 7 sister told they can make lots of money on web cam. I told her the lock down is over so that money will be drying up. She may or may not do it.

    Video and pictures are BS.

    (reminder story I posted before) A girl I found at Botero park, who I had sex with, tried to get me to download some App so she could send me pictures for money! If I was an idiot like some of you and would have sent her money for pix, I would then never get any real sex again. Just virtual sex.

    Then if these 3 girls make money at it then they tell their friends. It matters.
    Agree it matters. Just like with economic opportunity and prosperity come the rise of feminism and fewer women out to make us happy. Neither can be stopped. Roll with it.

    There are a lot of avenues opening up to exploit the gap between lonely sexless men of which there are hordes in the west and poor, available and decent looking chicas in the poorer countries, and more and more of this will unfortunately go virtual. It is what it is. But agree I won't be supporting it. Covid or not, habits get formed.

  15. #40885

    Agencies

    Can anyone recommend any good agencies to use? I know a lot show pictures of girls that don't look anything like they do and some are scams. Any help is appreciated thanks.

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