Pattaya Reports

[FL Hawk]

This is how you help BarGirls. Give them a stake of $10,000 and teach them how to trade options. Learn what cash secured puts and covered calls are. Incorporate both into the Wheel Strategy. Income for life, at least quite awhile if done right. LOL.

I'm into my second month. Does have merit.

Haha. I have lost more in options than I will ever lose to Secret, many times over.

[FL Hawk]

I didn't read back your post but I assumed you gave her money to pay back her loan, so that's not a cheap charlie's act.

She didn't ask explicitly (maybe), but she made you fully aware of her financial struggles.

The way you write your reports, it's clear that you're very hesitant of what you should do (or what you should have done). All these questionings (I assume that you probably gave her many signs of these hesitations) are typically showing you as a big easy target in my opinion.

Signs of hesitation? No, I think I left the impression I was totally insensitive! She left hints and I did not respond. I mean, she says "I need a job" and I say "I hope you find something. " Not until faced with losing her did I finally shell out some cash. I may show hesitation here in my writing about it all and, yes, I was hesitant about what to do at the time.

I had not been giving her much of anything, thus looking like a Cheap Charlie up until the time I did give her money. You can decide, if this goes on, if I return to be a cheap Charlie or if I start throwing out the cash upon the merest hint of need from her.

[Paolo99]

As I said, I am trying to educate and show insight into one particular BG. I am still trying to show she is NOT a typical BG however.

What does she got that is so different than other BGs?

[Member #4698]

It's even worst than I thought.

She's been doing this for 10 years? That girl is wasted and you'll never satisfy her except by spending a lot of cash on her (until you run out of cash). But is it really worth it?

I think it is time for a picture of the mystery girl. "Been doing this for 10 years," crikey, this story is turning into a farce.

[Dr Brian Jones]

This is how you help BarGirls. Give them a stake of $10,000 and teach them how to trade options. Learn what cash secured puts and covered calls are. Incorporate both into the Wheel Strategy. Income for life, at least quite awhile if done right. LOL.

I'm into my second month. Does have merit.

LOL Danny,

In other ISG threads, guys are currently discussing potential relationship with " nice and financially independent girls " flirting with them for weeks, with NO video-calls and then asking them to invest in f / x accounts.

They are not 100% sure if this is true interest in them or scam. Well.

So now with your recommendation, we are going full circle haha!

[Danny Duck]

This is how you help BarGirls. Give them a stake of $10,000 and teach them how to trade options. Learn what cash secured puts and covered calls are. Incorporate both into the Wheel Strategy. Income for life, at least quite awhile if done right. LOL.

I'm into my second month. Does have merit.

[Paolo99]

Quite true. But remember, Secret is not 18 or 19. She worked in industry for 10 years. Her family did not push her to be a BG.

It's even worst than I thought.

She's been doing this for 10 years? That girl is wasted and you'll never satisfy her except by spending a lot of cash on her (until you run out of cash). But is it really worth it?

[Paolo99]

Huh? She asked for nothing and she very nearly got it. I think my record shows I was more of a cheap Charlie! But now that she HAS gotten money out of me, will your assertion start to come true?

I didn't read back your post but I assumed you gave her money to pay back her loan, so that's not a cheap charlie's act.

She didn't ask explicitly (maybe), but she made you fully aware of her financial struggles.

The way you write your reports, it's clear that you're very hesitant of what you should do (or what you should have done). All these questionings (I assume that you probably gave her many signs of these hesitations) are typically showing you as a big easy target in my opinion.

[FL Hawk]

I'm not here to criticize you will get enough without my help.

Haha. I am here to educate and entertain. Best lessons are from real life examples. But I will not say much more about the loan and the land. I have not revealed it all and, as I said, I should write pages here and many here would still not believe. More may be revealed in the future. I will leave it at that.

I noted the Thai culture has laid a heavy burden on the females if not the land it would be something else?

Quite true. But remember, Secret is not 18 or 19. She worked in industry for 10 years. Her family did not push her to be a BG.

Thais in general aren't going to come right out in majority of situation and tell you exactly what they want she has been crying out to you in her own way....

True. She was very reluctant to talk about it. She felt shame.

What you are writing many don't see the importance only that you are getting sucker down deep much to learn from your report sadly not many will see the light at the end of the tunnel? Good luck!

As I said, I am trying to educate and show insight into one particular BG. I am still trying to show she is NOT a typical BG however.

[Berrys66]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XSC4Q4_HXM

[LittleBigMan]

I appreciate the comments. Here are some responses.

Of course I have not gotten over her yet! This is still October 2019! The story is not over.

If she thought she and the family would be better off going to Korea she would have gone. After the next chapter I guess we will find out if the relationship is shot or not.

Good man and good friend.

Haha. Yes. And I made out pretty well in life by being aware of the risks.

Huh? She asked for nothing and she very nearly got it. I think my record shows I was more of a cheap Charlie! But now that she HAS gotten money out of me, will your assertion start to come true?

What story is there to verify? She knew the truth. If she ended up going I would have insisted on a copy of the final contract she signed if she ever wanted to see me again. Read the first chapter to get references to the original reports from April 2019 if you want to go all the way back. At my urging in August 2019 she got a passport.

You insult me Danny. You think I would be going through this for an ugly?

Thanks. This is certainly a real-life story and I am telling it as it happened, with an occasional 'look ahead' when I think appropriate.

It was a huge amount to her and she should treat it as such. If she could not be trusted with what I gave her, then I would not want to stay with her. I do have money, and if we end up together then I would want to be sure I could trust her with it.

Umm, care to share what my relationship with Secret is today? I have asked you guys to make predictions.

And a common question: Why is the farm suddenly having a problem?

A legit question. It started years ago. Can I simply say the widowed mother took out a loan and only paid the interest? The debt grew and grew until Secret felt she had to work in Pattaya to get enough money to finally pay it all off. But Secret was not a successful BG and she failed. She was going to make the mother sell the land to avoid an imminent foreclosure (oh, can I mention a mother who didn't want to sell and let her daughter go work in Pattaya? Then she talked to an agent about working in Koreas who offered to advance her money (at an outrageous interest rate of course) if she signed a long work contract with him. Even this is a simplification, but many of you will still say I was scammed no matter what I say.

I'm not here to criticize you will get enough without my help. As I noted they have their own school in her village or farm way before she ever step foot into the business she basically has very little educationa and her mother even less. Just based on your comments when it comes to the farm it most likely isn't the first nor it be the last " interest only " sure didn't come from a bank. It isn't that she is a bad bar girl in many cases it will always be something for these girls as I noted the Thai culture has laid a heavy burden on the females if not the land it would be something else?

I wasn't born yesterday but as I noted the two year deal is a big red flag " Agent " I want to laugh stop rolling on the ground advance money that she will never be able to get out even if she works the field all day in between and working a massage parlor in Korea. I don't have enough text to explain how it works the cost to get her there which most likely is illegal and once there her passport is confiscated I think you assume what might happen thereafter. Sure it happens but a 2 year labor contract into another country and with a advance I've not seen or heard too many of those?

Depending on where she is from unless the family owns lots of rai I would think if real what you spend at GoGos might be able to pay the sum off? It kind of comes down to this for me we all be. S. You need to learn " Not the Art of the deal " but the Art of be. S. " You are asking some of the right question now ask for even more tell her you want to help but you don't have a lot of money but have to borrow it yourself to help that you know a friend of a friend if she can forward the contract the mother signed you can have a lawyer you know in Bangkok look at it and explain to you and if possible we can fix it so it doesn't happen again now wait for a reaction? This goes the same for the contract to Korea.

Thais in general aren't going to come right out in majority of situation and tell you exactly what they want she has been crying out to you in her own way but you are stuck in the Western way of thinking that she is going to just come right out and say you want love this is how much it is going to cost you a month for me to be yours.

What you are writing many don't see the importance only that you are getting sucker down deep much to learn from your report sadly not many will see the light at the end of the tunnel? Good luck!

[SinfullyKorean]

From the BKK thread but I will apply it to Pattaya.

Cheap Charlie Budget:

Food. Cheap breakfast 99 baht. Somtam for lunch 40 baht. Street cart noodles dinner 60 baht. Bottled water for the day 50 baht.

Transportation. Baht bus 20 baht. Motorbike 100 baht.

Condo - 6 k per month so 200 baht per day.

Soi 6 or G club in the afternoon - 120 baht for your drink.

Gogo bar or bar beers at night - 300 baht per night for your drinks.

Lady drinks - 1 special lady will get a lady drink at one of the bars - 150 baht.

1 G club or Soi 6 girl in the afternoon - 1000 plus 300/350 barfine.

1 FL at night 600 baht.

So for just over 3000 baht per day you have banged 2 girls and groped many.

Great report, Banana. I hope travel restrictions will be removed so I can visit again. Til then, keep the reports coming! It's very much appreciated. =).

[Danny Duck]

Watch out their might be Covid on the barstool you are sitting on. LOL.

That French lady caught Covid from interacting with infected gym equipment in Pooket.

[Banana Boi]

From the BKK thread but I will apply it to Pattaya.

Cheap Charlie Budget:

Food. Cheap breakfast 99 baht. Somtam for lunch 40 baht. Street cart noodles dinner 60 baht. Bottled water for the day 50 baht.

Transportation. Baht bus 20 baht. Motorbike 100 baht.

Condo - 6 k per month so 200 baht per day.

Soi 6 or G club in the afternoon - 120 baht for your drink.

Gogo bar or bar beers at night - 300 baht per night for your drinks.

Lady drinks - 1 special lady will get a lady drink at one of the bars - 150 baht.

1 G club or Soi 6 girl in the afternoon - 1000 plus 300/350 barfine.

1 FL at night 600 baht.

So for just over 3000 baht per day you have banged 2 girls and groped many.

[Banana Boi]

(I originally posted this reply in the General section, but since everyone is replying here I have re-posted it over here where it is in context with the current conversation).

I also posted my reply in the General Reports section since that's where the discussion of layovers and jet lag belong imo. Not reposting it here as it is imo not Pattaya specific.