Nogales

[Don Tonto]

I could be wrong, but I seem to remember reading that the www.ladiesofnogales.com owner had relocated away from Nogales. Too bad, he was really into setting up his website and collecting chica photos to post.

[Wild Wind]

Our hobby is great because every hobbyist can freely indulge his own personal mongering preferences, and change them whenever the mood strikes him. Cause no matter what you like, there are always willing girls if you hunt. My current favorite high mileage scenario with TD's starts with DFK and unrestricted FOB, and ends with BBBJTCIM. In terms of girls I look for the prettiest possible face and a warm and friendly attitude with a willingness to please. Beyond that I am pretty open to body type, just not REAL skinny, not totally O-freakin'-BESE, and no bellies or boobs that sag badly - those are my only deal killer turn-offs.

In my Mexican TD club experience (Nogi and TJ) a lot of the chicas will do FK, FOB and will give some BBBJ, but getting one to do all three and go all the way TCIM for a reasonable price is the challenging part of my search, especially keeping within my desired chica-type - no ugly fat old skanks, nasty bony crack-heads, or baby-ravaged saggers. But the more challenging the hunt, the more satisfying the find, right? And of course the colorful characters we all come across in the journey are a vital part of the whole mongering experience.

I hit Nogi on a recent Thursday evening and since I only get to Nogi about once a year I wanted to maximize this trip by having a plan. My goal was to get at least 2 pops in my favorite way and to apply some of the bargaining wisdom picked up here on the forum. I figured I'd get one pop right away in a familiar place to take the edge off, then take my time getting the other one in some way I've never done before. Any other interesting filler adventures that came along with the quest would be a bonus. I'm happy to report that I succeeded. Details below.

ACT I - Cherry's
After a couple large cans of brew en route from my Tucson hotel I pulled into Nogales AZ about 6 PM. Parked my rental car, as usual, on the uphill street outside the back end of the Burger King parking lot, and used the free and very clean BK bathroom. Cut thru the UETA lot to the border crossing, blew past the cluster of touts, and having never had a good time at Rio's, I headed right to Cherry's where I have had success on other trips.

Medium crowd, about 20 girls. I asked Benjamin (the older ticket guy with curly receding hair) for Abby who I knew would gladly meet my needs, but she was off that night. I sat down and started on a $3 beer and Benjamin reappeared with a slender pretty young thing with long dark hair and big doe eyes. Nice stuff! With Benjamin translating we determined that she'd do CBJ, but not BBBJTCIM. Was tempting to settle for less but I had a plan, so Adios to her.

Benjamin's English is pretty good so I told him I was looking for 30 minutes upstairs, FOB and BBBJTCIM for $65 total. He said that’s not possible because the upstairs room by itself is $44 (two tickets @ $22 each). Bolstered by forum negotiation war stories I stuck to my performance spec and my price and asked him to go looking.

A good ticket guy always knows his stable, and Benjamin came back a few minutes later saying a chica named Cassandra was willing. So I walked over to where she was sitting to see if she was acceptable quality. She's young, decent face, nice smile, taller and lighter coloring than usual Mexicans, long curly hair, heavier than ideal but firm, with what looked to be nice firm B cups. To my taste she's a 7, and certainly no skank in anybody's book. I was feeling hopeful.

They're talking in Spanish as I make my assessment, then Benjamin says she wants $75, plus I have to pay $10 to the guy upstairs. I remembered the good advice found here that you must always be prepared to walk away from a deal, so I said "$65 is the total price and I'll be over there if she wants to do it" and walked back to my seat. Benjamin talks to her some more then to some guy behind the bar and returns to say ok at $65 but I have to buy a $5 condom from the guy upstairs, even though I was getting BBBJTCIM. I probably could've kept insisting on $65 all-in but figured WTF, close enough, lets go, the stupid condom will be a souvenir and maybe I'd find a productive use for it later.

The upstairs at Cherry's has bigger closets than the doorless hovels on the main floor so we were actually pretty comfortable and were the only ones up there. Cassandra gave me all that I wanted in a nice, unhurried session. She was sweet, playful, friendly and eager to please, and stayed on the job all the way through the download, not one of those prissy lightweights who pull off the instant the eruption starts. So I was fully satisfied. Although Abby is my Cherry's favorite I'd definitely do Cassandra again.

I tipped Benjamin $5, so I was out $75 total with a condom in my pocket and was feeling pretty good about the whole thing. Hope you other Nogi lovers don't think I contributed to the inflationary spiral while getting my particular freak on this time at Cherry's. I'm open to your comments.

BTW, after Cassandra I got a $10 table dance in the back with the doe-eyed sweetie just to play with her cute B cups and check out her attitude. I enjoyed it, although I could tell she wouldn't be very passionate in a privado.

Hung around til 7:30 drinking $3 beers and watching the dancers then figured it was time to eat and hit the nighttime places: Placers, Ferni, etc. So I step outside, and that’s where I met George.

ACT II - George

George is about 50 and looks like a leftover SFO-style hippie. Kinda like Country Joe MacDonald of Country Joe and the Fish if you're ever looking to find him. Anglo-ish features and bright blue eyes. Good English learned on the job, selling donkey tourist pictures by day, touting at night. George is bright, reads a lot and is a great conversationalist. Did 7 years in Mexican jail for a 2 ton pot bust. Has some stories about that. Been out almost 10 years and staying clean. Married for 17 years with 3 kids. One conceived during weekly conjugal visits.

Feeling comfortable with him I invited him to have dinner with me so I could learn more about the Nogi scene and enlist his help in figuring out an innovative way to get my 2nd pop. He took me to Leo's on a corner in the tourist area. Clean, reasonable, bi-lingual and tasty. He only wanted coffee so as I ate a $4 plateful of chicken tacos I learned about the owners of the various TD clubs, the local hotel scene, and the extremely corrupt cops. Seems that the latest TD club shakedown was from a new Lieutenant in town. George told me that when a bank in town was robbed the staff locked it up afterwards and wouldn't let the cops in, because they'd steal whatever money was left.

Along the way he mentioned that some cab drivers know local girls who are not professionals but are willing to do it every now and then for the extra cash. I said that sounded interesting. True local flavor. Chica-next-door thing. Different experience than with the typical TD, many of who are pros from all over Mexico according to George. He said the non-pro girls usually want $100. I said I'm looking for the $60-$80 range and asked him to find a cabbie who could get me a nice-looking non-professional that would do my trilogy: DFK, FOB and BBBJTCIM. Off we went into the Nogi night.

ACT III - Pedro

As we reached the cabbie area by the border George sees Pedro, a friend who has just gotten a cabbie job (it's his 3rd day). Pedro's a little heavy with short curly hair, looks about 30 and has a lot of energy. The kind of guy you like right away. He was born in Nogi but raised in Oakland so his English is perfect. He got busted for pot and was deported. Now he has a Nogi wife and 4 kids to feed. Hearing what I wanted and my budget he asked if I'd been to La Conga. "$65 'til you cum, Man". I said I heard the pickings were slim there and anyway I wanted to try a non-professional tonight. Pedro said he knew a girl named Fabiola that might be willing. Sister of one of his wife's friends, or something like that. Cleans houses and does laundry for people. She had told him she'd be interested in some action with an ok guy. Pedro has no cell phone so I gave him a few bucks for a phone card and he, George and I piled into his taxi and headed south. He stopped to call her and came back saying she is willing to meet me. We can go pick her up and if we are both ok with each other then he'll take us to a hotel that rents a decent room for $10 for a few hours. If not, then we can try to find someone else, no problem.

Thus began my excursion into the backstreets of Nogi. The cab went further out of town, well past the Titanic TD club. Eventually we turned left and headed up into the hills where the narrow roads immediately turn to dirt with foot-deep flood ruts up the middle. Skinny dirty dogs skulking around. Tiny huddled structures crammed together. Old cars parked every which way. Small groups hanging out on stoops checking us out. A few streetlights here and there but mostly dark. Didn't feel dangerous, just reminds you that Mexico's a poor, 3rd world country. Pedro can't find the house so we twist and turn all over the place, up hills and down hills, u-turning in impossible spots, stopping, getting out, walking around, asking people. He gives up and calls Fabiola again, and we finally arrive at the pickup spot about 9:15.

ACT IV - Fabiola

Pedro had been low-keying Fabiola's physical attractiveness, probably so as not to over-sell and under-deliver. So frankly I feared the worst as she slid into the back seat next to me, and was wondering "How the hell will I get out of this gracefully?". But I was pleasantly surprised. Late 20's, medium height and slightly meaty build, dark Mexican complexion, long black hair pulled back. Pleasant face. Clean and well dressed in tight jeans and T-shirt that showed off her good set of C cups and decent ass. And definitely not hooker-looking. Someone that you'd admire passing on the downtown street, but not really dwell on.

Pedro asked me what I thought. I smiled approvingly and, nearly exhausting my Spanish vocabulary said "Hermosa chica". She and Pedro spoke in Spanish and he said "She wants $80". Again I figured WTF, I'm here, she's here, we've got a ride to a cheap hotel with a couple of bi-lingual guides, and she supposedly knows what I want to do when we get there. I said "Lets do it".

She was clearly very nervous as we drove to the hotel. I liked this because it reinforced the non-professional experience I was looking for that night. Pedro and George were making small talk in the front seat. I held her hand and she looked straight ahead. When we got to the hotel George said goodbye. I gave him $10 and he was happy. Pedro did the deal at the desk and I paid the $10 there. Then Pedro took the key and led Fabiola and me upstairs to the small room with the double bed and private bathroom with shower. Low-end for sure but good enough. It was now 9:30. Out in the hall Pedro and I settled on $25 for his finder/driver fee and he said he'd be back at 11:00. Now Fabiola and I were alone.

We each used the bathroom then I switched off the single overhead bulb and left the bathroom light on with the door slightly open to provide a soft glow in the room. I stepped to her and hugged her. She said something as I held her and I picked out a word that sounded like "nervous" might sound in Spanish. So I repeated it and we both laughed. Neither of us spoke ANY of the other's language so we would have to improvise communication.

Amazing where this hobby takes you. Here I was in a Mexican sex hotel with a good-looking, well-built chica who I couldn't talk to, but who someone else had recently explained his interpretation of my deepest sexual yearnings to, over a pay phone, and she had agreed to satisfy them, at least I think so. There was only one way to verify this, so I sat her on the bed and we started kissing.

The room was warm (no AC) so as I visually urged her to disrobe she was happy to get her clothes off pretty quickly. She was somewhat modest about it and this enhanced my enjoyment in watching. My traditional mongering outfit of sandals, loose shorts/no boxers and T-shirt was off in a flash.

I smiled broadly as she turned her naked body toward mine, and she began kissing me warmly. Through the next hour I enjoyed LFK (she wouldn't do DFK), unrestricted FOB (nice ones with wonderful nips), and a long strong wet 'n noisy BBBJTCIM. To borrow an old phrase, this girl could suck the chrome off a trailer hitch. I had put the Cherry's condom on the nightstand just in case, and she reached over and picked it up a few times during the session with a look that asked if I wanted to go to FS. But I would just point down, smile and say "chupa, por favor". At the end she pulled off before the download was finished but not enough to take away from an otherwise heroic performance of duty.

We dressed and I put the appropriate papers in her purse. Then she started asking questions in Spanish, pointing to her mouth and my crotch. I guessed she wanted to know my satisfaction so I said "muy bueno" which I hope was the right thing to say. Then we sat on the bed and made out for another 20 minutes. I kissed her very hard and squeezed her chest as hard as I could for a very long time and she seemed to enjoy it. Made me think she might like it rough. Got me hard again but I passed on going for a twofer. It was time to go.

We went downstairs into the cool night air and held each other comfortably til Pedro showed up about 11:15. Dropped her off with a kiss and Pedro took me back to the border. I gave him another $5 and told him I'd write about him on here so Dear Readers, be sure to ask for Pedro down at the cabbie area if you want a great guy to help you. The 2nd pop had run me about $130 all-in. I know that's almost 2 La Conga's, but I had really enjoyed it and it was a helluva foreign urban adventure.

So it was almost midnight, I'd had my two pops as planned, I was a short walk from my car, and I'd had some adventure. But is there ever enough adventure? Of course not, so I started off for Fernis to see if I could have a little more nasty fun.

ACT V - Ferni's

Ferni's is funky. That’s all there is to it. The slum end of the TD club social scale. But I love it for that. As many others here attest, I never pay attention to the dancers there, it’s the waitresses that provide the sporting action. And it never takes long to get one going. I always sit at one of the small tables along the long wall and do the same drill. I start overtly flirting with whichever waitress catches my eye (never matters if it’s the one serving you or not). She will quickly sit with me and another will immediately pounce to ask if I want to buy her a drink ($10 nowadays). If she's cuddly and frisky in the first few moments she's probably a good investment. So after that for 5-15 minutes (YMMV depending on the girl) I make out with her like crazy. I kiss her everywhere she'll let me, squeeze her chest, try to get inside her clothes as much as possible while she actively rubs my equipment, sometimes opening my shorts to get skin-on-skin (that’s where the tablecloths at Ferni's come in handy to keep that HJ action out of sight). Its wicked fun, either as a way to start the evening or after you've had a couple pops elsewhere and are just looking for some outrageous behavior. If you're having fun, keep buying her drinks. If it cools off, let her go and try another one. Of course eventually any of them will want you to buy a privado and that’s your call. I did it on one trip and enjoyed it ok. But often the Ferni's waitresses are not your top-shelf honeys, and they can be more fun to play with semi-clothed than to see and have sex with fully naked, if you know what I mean. Again, it's your call and the talent varies from night to night. Others swear by it.

This visit was true to form for me. Ordered a $4 beer (incl tip) and got it going with a well made-up, heavy-ish mid 30's Mexican gal with a good face, big lips and high-riding D cups. Pretty frisky, although not as free-wheeling as many have been. But it was fun to neck, fondle and be fondled for one drink, about 10minutes. TIP: If you enjoy kissing them its better because it keeps them from finishing their drink quite as fast. So I'm up and out after having had some fun with only $15 invested (incl $1 tip for the waitress' drink) and I'm off for a talent check at Placers and Boleiros.

ACT VI - Placers

Placers used to be my favorite b/c of the pretty young chicas and the mileage they gave me in a $22 privado. The girls are still cute, but now they're all trying to limit you and upsell you and its not as much fun. But I met Frederick, a personable young ticket guy who spent time in US and speaks good English. He showed me the upstairs bedroom and quoted $230 including the girl. A particularly aggressive one of those had tagged along with us for the tour and was now kneeling on the bed gnawing my equipment through my shorts. As Fred and I talked I nonchalantly slid her hands up my shorts legs and she fondled me madly skin-on-skin in hopes of getting me to spring for the honeymoon suite right then and there. Not tonight, my little vixen. Certainly not at that price.

Went back downstairs and drank 2 more $4 beers while chatting with Frederick about his background and asking more about the TD club business. Being totally honest with him I explained I was already 2 pops into a late evening and only wanted a table dance where I could FOB freely the whole time. He found me the right girl, I paid the $10 and enjoyed it thoroughly for all 3 minutes of the song. I liked this chica's chest and attitude enough to spring for a privado and took her upstairs for a $22 session. In the old days I always immediately dropped my shorts before sitting down in the (then-curtained) cubicle. This almost always led to interesting skin-on-skin activities for the basic privado price. But when I tried it this time the chica made it clear it wasn't allowed, so she fondled me through my shorts occasionally while I FOB and played a little with her shaved puss for 6 minutes and longed for the good old days. Near the end she offered BJ for $40 to get me to also buy another privado, but I passed. My gut told me she probably wouldn't do the BBBJTCIM anyway. Back down for another beer at ringside.

The Placers cover had been free with a hand stamp that also let me in to their new place, Boleiros. I'd read here that the décor is upscale and talent is good so I wanted to check it out. Up and out after $32 invested in 9 minutes of pretty good FOB. Not a great bargain but a highly focused experience and a better price/value ratio than available most places stateside (possible exception of Houston).

ACT VII - Boleiros

Boleiros was a disappointment. Kinda' bright lighting, sorta' snazzy looking, overall feeling of what Holiday Inn would do in the TD club business. Felt like your basic mid-range stateside "gentleman's-club-near-the-airport" kind of place we've all been bored to death in too many times. I go to Nogi for high mileage in dark corners with exceptionally frisky women. This didn't appear to have ANY of those attributes. May be some guys' cup of TD, but not mine, at least not in Nogi. So I did a 180 out the door and headed towards the tracks figuring my interesting night was over.

Of course another tout immediately flagged me down and wanted to know why I was leaving so early (a little after 1:00AM). He was a large guy with good English. Another drug bust veteran who now makes his living touting for gringos. Fairly beer-buzzed by now I cut right to the chase and told him I wanted to s*ck on t*tties and he said he knew just the girl. (Don't they always?)

ACT VIII - Obsessions

We walked fast to Obsessions where he blew past the doormen with no cover. Moments later we were at a ringside table, each drinking bottled water (I knew I was at the tipping point where another cerveza would make me empty my wallet on the next chica). He has a cute little honey come over and I pull her onto my lap and begin free-roaming to see how frisky she is. She's reasonably responsive and the tout says something like "She's the one I was telling you about, Senor", and a waitress starts asking me if I want to buy her a drink. I figure a drink is $10 more than I need to spend to get my FOB freak on with this pre-qualified chica and announce I'm ready for a privado. Off to the back where we wait to be assigned to a room. The privado guy shows up, takes my $22, and then asks me for a tip. I look him in the eye, smiling, and ask, politely: "What for?". Fortunately he smiles and disengages. She leads me to a dark little booth with no door and a suddenly a little green light comes on inside the booth above the door opening. Ghastly glow lighting up what you want to be an in-the-dark experience. Turns out it’s the timer and you leave when it shuts off. Exactly opposite to the way it should work! I don't know if it would have been different if I had tipped the guy. Somehow I don't think so.

I can't remember her name, but she's got a nice tight petite bod with firm B cups and taut nips, willingly gives me all the FOB I want and fondles me appropriately through my shorts although won't let me slide her hands up the legs. She watches herself a lot in the mirror on the side of the booth. When we finish she asks for a tip (what is it with this place?) and I give her $2. I rejoin my friend and say its time to leave. He accompanies me out and keeps trying to get me to stay, saying he knows more great ladies whose t*ts I can s*ck as long as I want. I'm sure he does but now its 1:30AM and I'm ready to call it a night while I still have a few bucks left and a smile on my face.

AFTERWORD

So I got my 2 pops the way I like them, had several interesting filler activities, met some colorful new characters, and expanded my horizons into the realm of cabbies, Nogi backstreets, non-professional nookie and the local sex hotel scene. All in all a good way to have spent 7 hours in Nogi.

Although I always seem to spend more than I intend to in Nogi, and I sometimes have mixed feelings afterwards about the overall value received for certain parts of the experience, it still beats any stateside location I know of for dense-packing variety and color at reasonable prices. And I always want to go back.

[Carnal1]

Regarding street girls,last trip one of my friends went to a hotel room with one, he gave her the money, she went to get a condom and never returned. Lesson learned. No management to talk to, no recourse, no sexo.

Caveat Punter

Carnal1

[LvLatinas]

Metal_Mickey,

I've always been a little leary of the street hustlers. One's gut instincts only go so far when being led somewhere on a whim and a promise. There was a report sometime back about one of the hustlers who would call someone and about 30-60 minutes later an SUV would pull up with 2-3 latinas in it. You negotiated the deal and went to a nearby hotel. That sounds moderately safe.

[Jester]

Is the guy that owns the site www.ladiesofnogales.com still around. I noticed that his web site is for sell and I sent him an email around a month ago and got no reponse.

[Jester]

I live in Nogi, I'd show you around for free if I wasn't so busy.

[LvLatinas]

The site is www.ladiesofnogales.com.

[Vitamin V Boy]

Matt,

There is a guy that will give you escorted tours of the clubs, etc down there. Check out theladiesofnogales website for his contact info.

[Matt Mark]

Does anyone want to go to Nogales here in the near future? I've been to a few strip clubs, but I want to know more about the area (sexo) and go with someone else and not some street hustler across the border.

[Metal_Mickey]

RE: setting up all-nighters

You could let one of the local street hustlers do the footwork for you. Can't miss em; as soon as you cross the border they're all over you. Tell a couple of them what you're looking for, let them humor you, and you just might be surprised. They are very eager to make a buck and you can bet that they know girls who are just as eager.

[Ragman]

lvlatinas,

La Conga has a "bar fine" and a fixed rate for the girl for "toda la noche". Last time I checked it was $50 to the bar and $250 to the girl. I don't know about paying the first night and then having her call in sick the next night or two, thereby cutting the bar fine out at least. Others are going to tell you cheaper ways to get the toda la noche but they often slide over the fact that their all-nighter doesn't start until the girl gets off work at "0 dark thirty".

A word of caution. Most of the girls at La Conga have kids at home that they can't just leave for a 2 or 3 day GFE. Some have the kids with relatives out of town and some have a freind that can watch the kids for a few days. But some will say "toda la noche" but, later, will make an excuse to leave and be home before the kids wake up or before the babysitter goes home. So much for the GFE. Let the buyer beware.

Ragman

[LvLatinas]

I've got a couple of days vacation time coming my way in Aug, thought I'd take them in Nogales. What's the best way to find a dancer, Conga girl or other provider that I can hook up with for 2 or 3 days straight? Ideally would like to pay her a flat fee, plus meals to be with me full time. I know many of the bar girls will offer their version of "all night" and I've seen one or two postings about someone who managed to get a deal like this. Any suggestions?

[SuperDick]

it looks like the closing of the strip bars was a temp thing, because they were being fined for allowing sexo in the clubs..... From what i heard from friends, the bars are now open, and you can still get sexo, but you have to be kind of discreet about it... forget nogi, i am just going to TJ....

[Carnal1]

Any news from Nogales lately on the status of the TD clubs? Is Fernis still open?

[Merlin Magician]

I have been reading about governmental crackdown on WG's and P4P stuff in the clubs in Mexico. The Federales all seem to be busier than ever before.

Presidente Vicente Fox says he is going to crack down on crime in Mexico. Looks to me like he needs to clean out his own Federales first. Then too, cleaning out the graft in the state and local police forces is lot like attacking a huge ant bed with a just a wet Q tip. About as effective as Hans Blix looking for WMD.

I still remember the videos of stolen late model American SUV's parked by the Tijuana Federale offices by Federales who were driving them.