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  1. #2743
    I have only had problems twice walking to and from Zona. About 2 years a ratero demanded money from me on the pedestrian bridge. About a month ago a cop tried to shake me down by the east end of the old shopping center where the McDonalds used to be. These days I am more cautious and take Uber or a cab after 9 pm.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackie888  [View Original Post]
    I think one of the most basic rule and one that anyone can easily remember is that it is safe to go where there is a lot of people. Have uber pick you up and drop you off where there is a lot of people. Walk where there is a lot of people. This is true at night but can also save your ass in the daytime.

  2. #2742
    I think one of the most basic rule and one that anyone can easily remember is that it is safe to go where there is a lot of people. Have uber pick you up and drop you off where there is a lot of people. Walk where there is a lot of people. This is true at night but can also save your ass in the daytime.

  3. #2741
    Quote Originally Posted by BrotherMouzone  [View Original Post]
    I think during the day, especially if you don't have a suitcase and you're following other people walking in the same direction, walking is fine if you know the way. I (very stupidly looking back) did the walk past midnight from PedEast to Zona Norte once last year and had no issues, though wouldn't recommend walking at night to anyone else. The route was completely deserted. But I actually feel pretty comfortable walking during the day.
    The short walk from Ped West to the Zona is relatively safe (and has reasonably populated businesses and pedestrians during that stretch during the daytime. I would do it ONLY in daytime. I have done it at night, but also would not recommend it.

    Only some low-life liar would say that I would recommend walking it at night.

  4. #2740
    Quote Originally Posted by OrganicAlo  [View Original Post]
    Yeah, the uber pick up spot is across the street in front of the farmacia, just use app to pinpoint the driver.

    I was always reluctant to cross that street at first, but it's really no big deal, everyone there is just waiting for their rides. I never cross at night though.
    Wait, you're reluctant to cross the street to Farmacia Milenio at night? Why? There's always a million people in that immediate area, no way can any ratero try to do anything there.

    Quote Originally Posted by BrotherMouzone  [View Original Post]
    Is there a particular spot near the border where you catch Uber to Zona Norte? I use Uber all the time elsewhere in Tijuana, but have been reluctant to use it at the border because it seems like it could be difficult for the driver to locate you (and vice-versa) with all the people and traffic in that immediate area. Am also not completely comfortable standing around in that area for more than a couple of minutes because it seems a couple Tijuana policia are usually in that area watching everything. So I usually just hop in a taxi or walk just to get out of there as fast as possible.
    I don't ever remember seeing cops in that area. Besides, there's way too many witnesses present for the cops to try and steal from anybody there. Most Ubers pick up around Farmacia Milenio which is right across the street from the end of the walkway. If you don't want to wait for an Uber and are feeling adventurous, you can take the bus / shuttle to Dax on 3 ra and Constitucion. For $10 mx, it drops you off about 2. 5 blocks directly south of La Malquerida. It's a short walk, I've done it myself countless times myself late at night. The block between 2 da and 1 ra is somewhat sketchy, but not an extreme high risk area.

  5. #2739
    Actually it is about 5 WSW's. I tend to stick to the same girls because there is not more light skinned girls that give good service & interest me. This is the main thing that disappints me about the Zona.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackie888  [View Original Post]
    Dude, you go with one of the same three SW white girls for the last 5 years. That is not really a sex addiction. You are probably more faithful than half of married men.

  6. #2738
    Quote Originally Posted by BrotherMouzone  [View Original Post]
    Is there a particular spot near the border where you catch Uber to Zona Norte? I use Uber all the time elsewhere in Tijuana, but have been reluctant to use it at the border because it seems like it could be difficult for the driver to locate you (and vice-versa) with all the people and traffic in that immediate area. Am also not completely comfortable standing around in that area for more than a couple of minutes because it seems a couple Tijuana policia are usually in that area watching everything. So I usually just hop in a taxi or walk just to get out of there as fast as possible.
    The pick up spot from Ped East is usually in front of the pharmacy or just a little passed it in front of the parking lot / wire fence. You will see people waiting there. The other spot is around the bend directly across the street from the turnstiles where you would normally hop a local taxi. In this case you walk the opposite direction from the line of taxis and walk around the bended curve. That way traffic cops don't give them a hard time for picking up people.

    You will get the hang of it. Make sure you wear a hat or clothing item that sticks out so the driver can recognize you. Add the description in your pick up notes.

    When Pedwest reopens eventually you can ask to be picked up on Calle de LOS tacos. This is what my taxi driver calls the street directly in back of the Ped West drop off area.

  7. #2737
    Quote Originally Posted by BrotherMouzone  [View Original Post]
    Is there a particular spot near the border where you catch Uber to Zona Norte? I use Uber all the time elsewhere in Tijuana, but have been reluctant to use it at the border because it seems like it could be difficult for the driver to locate you (and vice-versa) with all the people and traffic in that immediate area. Am also not completely comfortable standing around in that area for more than a couple of minutes because it seems a couple Tijuana policia are usually in that area watching everything. So I usually just hop in a taxi or walk just to get out of there as fast as possible.
    Yeah, the uber pick up spot is across the street in front of the farmacia, just use app to pinpoint the driver.

    I was always reluctant to cross that street at first, but it's really no big deal, everyone there is just waiting for their rides. I never cross at night though.

  8. #2736
    Quote Originally Posted by ClamSlammer  [View Original Post]
    Pretty much everyone on here agrees, except for Scatman. He implored newbies to get off the trolley, take the $1 shuttle to PedWest, cross, then walk almost a full mile, at night, with bulging pockets flush with puta cash, toting a suitcase, through one of the most dangerous sections of the #5 murder capital of the world, and arrive at HK on the brink of passing out, to save the colossal sum of $1 usd. He said that was far superior to my suggestion, which was to get off the trolley, cross, and pay Uber $2 to safely arrive in the Zona. His reasoning was his suggestion was superior because it was $1 usd cheaper.
    Is there a particular spot near the border where you catch Uber to Zona Norte? I use Uber all the time elsewhere in Tijuana, but have been reluctant to use it at the border because it seems like it could be difficult for the driver to locate you (and vice-versa) with all the people and traffic in that immediate area. Am also not completely comfortable standing around in that area for more than a couple of minutes because it seems a couple Tijuana policia are usually in that area watching everything. So I usually just hop in a taxi or walk just to get out of there as fast as possible.

  9. #2735
    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman306  [View Original Post]
    I have to strongly agree with others on here that walking to or from the border to Zona Norte from either Pedwest or PedEast is a bad idea. I've see videos on YouTube, and on either route your not going to be near businesses or a lot of people the whole way.

    Even if you stay 100% sober, and are wide awake & alert, your still going to have at least part of your mind in the gutter about the sensual activities either about to occur or have just occurred. I'm sure some guys have walked 20,50, 100 times okay, but you don't want 1 in 100 odds of something bad happening you want like 1 in 50,000 odds, and I don't see that being the case.

    I understand that guys into the hobby really hard try to save money everywhere else in their life, but I don't think a few bucks on transport from the border is the right option to do so.
    I think during the day, especially if you don't have a suitcase and you're following other people walking in the same direction, walking is fine if you know the way. I (very stupidly looking back) did the walk past midnight from PedEast to Zona Norte once last year and had no issues, though wouldn't recommend walking at night to anyone else. The route was completely deserted. But I actually feel pretty comfortable walking during the day.

  10. #2734
    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman306  [View Original Post]
    I have to strongly agree with others on here that walking to or from the border to Zona Norte from either Pedwest or PedEast is a bad idea....you don't want 1 in 100 odds of something bad happening you want like 1 in 50,000 odds, and I don't see that being the case.

    I understand that guys into the hobby really hard try to save money everywhere else in their life, but I don't think a few bucks on transport from the border is the right option to do so.
    Pretty much everyone on here agrees, except for Scatman. He implored newbies to get off the trolley, take the $1 shuttle to PedWest, cross, then walk almost a full mile, at night, with bulging pockets flush with puta cash, toting a suitcase, through one of the most dangerous sections of the #5 murder capital of the world, and arrive at HK on the brink of passing out, to save the colossal sum of $1 usd. He said that was far superior to my suggestion, which was to get off the trolley, cross, and pay Uber $2 to safely arrive in the Zona. His reasoning was his suggestion was superior because it was $1 usd cheaper.

  11. #2733

    Border to Zona Norte Walk

    I have to strongly agree with others on here that walking to or from the border to Zona Norte from either Pedwest or PedEast is a bad idea. I've see videos on YouTube, and on either route your not going to be near businesses or a lot of people the whole way.

    Even if you stay 100% sober, and are wide awake & alert, your still going to have at least part of your mind in the gutter about the sensual activities either about to occur or have just occurred. I'm sure some guys have walked 20,50, 100 times okay, but you don't want 1 in 100 odds of something bad happening you want like 1 in 50,000 odds, and I don't see that being the case.

    I understand that guys into the hobby really hard try to save money everywhere else in their life, but I don't think a few bucks on transport from the border is the right option to do so.

  12. #2732
    Quote Originally Posted by Hargow20  [View Original Post]
    There will always be certain number of people that use drugs. But I don't believe the drug gangs should be tolerated and allowed to operate freely. The drug gangs in Mexico is more difficult problem since corruption is much more pervasive. So long as the police allow drugs to be sold openly on the streets they will be a problem. The reduction in street muggings is one good thing that has happened in the Zona within the past few years. Before then people were getting mugged in broad daylight in the Zona. Today muggings still occasionally happen, but it is much more rare. There is still some unsafe areas such the south side of Nino's Hero's. Or Primera st between Constutucion & Ninos Hero's at night. Despite this I am still very careful in the Zona since one never knows when muggings might rise again in the Zona. I would agree being addicted to sex is a fairly harmless addiction. For myself I am addicted to sex and the pursuit of hotter girls. Although it is much harder to find hotter & newer SG / SW's in the Zona. I am disappointed that there has been so few new SW's in the Zona in recent years. Eiizabeth has been the only new hot SW that I have met in a few years.
    Dude, you go with one of the same three SW white girls for the last 5 years. That is not really a sex addiction. You are probably more faithful than half of married men.

  13. #2731

    Drug Sellers are not robbing tourists; the Buyers are

    From my analysis, the drug sellers are not the ones robbing tourists and Mexican citizens. The drug buyers are to fund their habit. Seems to me that if the policia arrested buyers and put them to work in rehabilitation camps like China does, this would make Mexico much safer for the average citizen and tourists too. So the drug sellers should be tolerated since they are running a business and it is impossible for Mexico to stop them with their current methods; easier simply to legalize the sale so the cartel wars end and the Government collects taxes on the sales. The users would be in rehab where they couldn't rob others. This should drop the robbery and murder rate in Mexico considerably. Offhand, I don't think weed is something that people rob for; it is the meth and hard drug users who rob for money to buy hard drugs.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hargow20  [View Original Post]
    There will always be certain number of people that use drugs. But I don't believe the drug gangs should be tolerated and allowed to operate freely. The drug gangs in Mexico is more difficult problem since corruption is much more pervasive. So long as the police allow drugs to be sold openly on the streets they will be a problem. The reduction in street muggings is one good thing that has happened in the Zona within the past few years. Before then people were getting mugged in broad daylight in the Zona. Today muggings still occasionally happen, but it is much more rare. There is still some unsafe areas such the south side of Nino's Hero's. Or Primera st between Constutucion & Ninos Hero's at night. Despite this I am still very careful in the Zona since one never knows when muggings might rise again in the Zona. I would agree being addicted to sex is a fairly harmless addiction. For myself I am addicted to sex and the pursuit of hotter girls. Although it is much harder to find hotter & newer SG / SW's in the Zona. I am disappointed that there has been so few new SW's in the Zona in recent years. Eiizabeth has been the only new hot SW that I have met in a few years.

  14. #2730
    There will always be certain number of people that use drugs. But I don't believe the drug gangs should be tolerated and allowed to operate freely. The drug gangs in Mexico is more difficult problem since corruption is much more pervasive. So long as the police allow drugs to be sold openly on the streets they will be a problem. The reduction in street muggings is one good thing that has happened in the Zona within the past few years. Before then people were getting mugged in broad daylight in the Zona. Today muggings still occasionally happen, but it is much more rare. There is still some unsafe areas such the south side of Nino's Hero's. Or Primera st between Constutucion & Ninos Hero's at night. Despite this I am still very careful in the Zona since one never knows when muggings might rise again in the Zona. I would agree being addicted to sex is a fairly harmless addiction. For myself I am addicted to sex and the pursuit of hotter girls. Although it is much harder to find hotter & newer SG / SW's in the Zona. I am disappointed that there has been so few new SW's in the Zona in recent years. Eiizabeth has been the only new hot SW that I have met in a few years.

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainSolo  [View Original Post]
    Inevitable demand?

    Remember the Opium War in China in the 18th and 19th century? Western countries with opium for sale and small groups of marines were able to subjugate, master and control hundred millions Chinese for a couple hundred years.

    Not to mention the current addiction, loss of productivity, vices, crime waves and many other social ills caused by loaded drugs lords.

    If you have to addict to something, addict to beers, food and sex, both taste good and healthy, available abundantly and cheaply in Tijuana. Food and sex also keeps the women from going horny and insane, and revolve against the government.

    A reasonable, but politically impossible approach, would be to create a pathway for the cartels to. Supply the inevitable demand, but. Keep it 'clean', out the news, and much less visible, and there will be enough for everyone, and we won't be forced to be on your ass.

  15. #2729

    The best addictions

    Inevitable demand?

    Remember the Opium War in China in the 18th and 19th century? Western countries with opium for sale and small groups of marines were able to subjugate, master and control hundred millions Chinese for a couple hundred years.

    Not to mention the current addiction, loss of productivity, vices, crime waves and many other social ills caused by loaded drugs lords.

    If you have to addict to something, addict to beers, food and sex, both taste good and healthy, available abundantly and cheaply in Tijuana. Food and sex also keeps the women from going horny and insane, and revolve against the government.

    A reasonable, but politically impossible approach, would be to create a pathway for the cartels to. Supply the inevitable demand, but. Keep it 'clean', out the news, and much less visible, and there will be enough for everyone, and we won't be forced to be on your ass.

    Quote Originally Posted by SpeedToys  [View Original Post]
    Ya, nothing new.

    A reasonable, but politically impossible approach, would be to create a pathway for the cartels to. Supply the inevitable demand, but. Keep it 'clean', out the news, and much less visible, and there will be enough for everyone, and we won't be forced to be on your ass.

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