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  1. #2354
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    What will you do if being vaccinated is required to travel from one country to another?
    If required in my country, then I climb on Girose glacier, make igloo, and live there. Virus and even police can t compete at 3600 meters high. I trust French doctors from my experiences, but not pills, when I saw too many beloved relatives falling sick from taking pills. Only vaccine I could think about would be Sanofi, but I won't rush when it will be working. Qantas Airways told they would ask for vaccine, but I don't need Qantas. I doubt Swiss or Spanish clubs will ask for vaccine, when LR asked for test.

  2. #2353
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    China now claiming virus came from abroad, not from Wuhan, and arresting Chinese who tell was coming from Wuhan and more deaths than claimed.

    French doctors think vaccines will protect from heavy lungs diseases those they won t kill with bad unknown effects, but won t prevent those who will get vaccine to catch it and infect others. Some catch several times virus. When many pills to cure something, also kill some organs, when still a lot to discover about this killer virus, but may have also to discover about virus efficiency and effects. Like when I arrive in a brothel, never rushing but eating first, no rush for vaccines, I know my best test = my sports performances which need clean strong lungs.
    What will you do if being vaccinated is required to travel from one country to another?

  3. #2352

    Exactly

    Quote Originally Posted by Mursenary  [View Original Post]
    Fact, it's a multi variable situation. Mandated restrictions in societies where people circumvent them results in worse outcomes than less restricted societies where people follow recommendations by clinicians. Do you actually believe that there are more people attending social functions in "mandate-free" Sweden than in Italian and Spanish homes? I don't.
    This is the point where the arguments of the internet anti-maskers, anti-restrictions crowd breaks down. They want to jump all around, comparing Sweden to South American countries, etc. In a desperate bid to prove that a free approach in Sweden did better than the restrictive ones of other countries. But it has been noted at least 100 times since April, that rules without compliance, either through law or cultural directives, are meaningless. Logistics are also a factor, as many poorer countries have heavy reliance on gig economies, abundant multi-generational households, high percentages of households without refrigerators where large portions shop daily in crowded markets, weak law enforcement, etc.

    I also recall another trying to compare Uruguay, a tiny by comparison, affluent South American country with very low poverty rates to their neighbors. This involved the same sort of fallacies as pitting Sweden again the country of the day, but never their Nordic neighbors. Logistics matter, as does demographics, culture, and other factors.

  4. #2351
    Quote Originally Posted by ShooBree  [View Original Post]
    Nah, I that sounds more like you and the troll "the cane". Self-awareness, ever heard of it?
    Sharp wit this guy. You're terrible.

  5. #2350
    Quote Originally Posted by Mursenary  [View Original Post]
    Yep, the loose variety that just uncontrollably oozes out shit. No wipe, just sits up, buckles his pants, and walks along his merry way leaving a trail of pure liquid shit.

    Accompanied with a couple of other shit oozing assholes when speaking of this topic.
    Nah, I that sounds more like you and the troll "the cane". Self-awareness, ever heard of it?

  6. #2349

    Corona inflation

    Can any one explain the price dynamics of paid sex in COVID-19?

    Shouldn't the despair in economy result in more ladies selling their bodies and lower prices?

    I see opposite. Less choice more expensive. Or are ladies living on prior earnings (or too damn afraid).

    Corona is a sexless desert.

  7. #2348

    Socializing in Sweden vs Spain

    Swedish enjoy their solitude and being lone wolfs.

    When asked about a national character, almost any newbie or oldie, is likely to describe the typical Swede as shy, reserved and almost uninterested in human contact. Our favourite activity seems to be walking alone in the forest, going to a remotely located cottage far away from any civilisation, or eating sweets in front of the TV on a Friday night.

    Most of us do seem to have difficulty initiating contact, appear awkward talking to strangers and acquaintances alike, and rarely form new friendships. Compared to other Europeans, us Swedes tend to use fewer and slighter gestures, maintain less eye contact, and in general, talk less. If you have Swedish business contacts or colleagues, they are probably nice and civil, but rarely give you any glimpse into their private lives, and seem passionately disinterested in yours.

    Swedes, infamously, maintain a large personal comfort zone, and feel uncomfortable with people standing too close or worse, touching us. This being a subconscious social agreement, a non-Swede used to a smaller personal comfort zone may try to come closer whilst talking, in order to feel at ease. Consequently, the Swede (still subconsciously) may take a step back in order to maintain their preferred distance.
    Spanish hate being alone and prefer to be part of the wolfpack.

    I have no problem with going to movies or a restaurant alone. I even like the occasional holiday by myself. In Spain, this makes you a weirdo.

    As a rule, Spaniards really dont like being alone for more than about five minutes, and if they are, they will pull out their phone and call someone or check their Facebook page. The other week I actually saw a woman shouting into her phone while going for an early Sunday morning run.

    This sociability is one of Spains best aspects. If you make the effort, youll never be short of friends. But it also means you can feel very uncomfortable if youre not standing around with a group of 20 other people.

    https://www.thelocal.es/20150127/the-five-strangest-things-about-spaniards
    Number of single-person households in Sweden is 51 percent. Spain appears to be about half of that: https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/pr...DDN-20180706-1.

    As early as February, the World Health Organization noted that most cases in China occurred in family clusters: https://www.nbcnews.com/health/healt...finds-n1245493.

  8. #2347
    Quote Originally Posted by ExpatLover  [View Original Post]
    If I move to a small village in Thailand it will not be the same? I advice you to try to live in a village in France or Germany for sure your social life will be limited.
    No it would not be. You're over 60 years old, surely you understand the dynamics of white / brown and first-world / third world interactions.

  9. #2346
    Quote Originally Posted by Tuber19  [View Original Post]
    Actually, comparing Sweden to ONLY Nordic countries dosent make sense on the mask and lockdown subject.

    As a fact Norway has less death per capita and that's a fact, so if we examine the reason for that fact by thinking it is because Masks and lockdowns, then all countries with mask and lockdown should have less death per capita comparing to Sweden which is not true ( Uk , France, Spain , Italy etc)

    So, the reason for Norway to have less death per capita comparing to Sweden is something else. Just like Why Germany has less death per capita than Italy and Belguim.
    Fact, it's a multi variable situation. Mandated restrictions in societies where people circumvent them results in worse outcomes than less restricted societies where people follow recommendations by clinicians. Do you actually believe that there are more people attending social functions in "mandate-free" Sweden than in Italian and Spanish homes? I don't.

    Another fact, last week I sat on my ass on many nights working an NYC hospital, an area where people are actually abiding by the regulations, more or less.

    This week I returned to my home hospital system in the Southern United States where no one gives a damn. My 37 bed ICU admitted 5 patients last night, 3 emergently intubated and 2 who will likely follow suit later today if not already. In March / April, staffing would have dictated 1 physician and 1 advance practice provider (PAs and NPs). This time around, we were better prepared with 2 physicians and 3 APPs, with one of each on call (we called).

    The hospital system has 128 ICU beds in total. Currently, there is 1 ICU bed left across 3 hospitals. Many more will come through the Emergency Department today requiring intensive care.

    The 700+ bed hospital system has 175 confirmed COVID patients with 52 patients awaiting PCR results. The patients in the hospital today are not even the result of the Thanksgiving holiday gatherings. The effect of Thanksgiving celebrations has just started.

  10. #2345
    China now claiming virus came from abroad, not from Wuhan, and arresting Chinese who tell was coming from Wuhan and more deaths than claimed.

    French doctors think vaccines will protect from heavy lungs diseases those they won t kill with bad unknown effects, but won t prevent those who will get vaccine to catch it and infect others. Some catch several times virus. When many pills to cure something, also kill some organs, when still a lot to discover about this killer virus, but may have also to discover about virus efficiency and effects. Like when I arrive in a brothel, never rushing but eating first, no rush for vaccines, I know my best test = my sports performances which need clean strong lungs.

  11. #2344
    Quote Originally Posted by Mongerer88  [View Original Post]
    I booked two-hour sessions with the ladies I saw from Bangkok Gold Escorts. Many spoke excellent English, and the one who loved to talk the most spoke fluent English and was very fun. She told me that she got married to a guy from a Nordic Country, I think it was in fact Sweden, but she hated it. He went off to work every day and she thought everyone in the village was hateful toward her. She got divorced and returned to Bangkok and did escorting. I always figured the village women hated her because she was cute, young and Thai, but maybe there were more cultural things at play than I realized.
    If I move to a small village in Thailand it will not be the same? I advice you to try to live in a village in France or Germany for sure your social life will be limited.

  12. #2343
    Quote Originally Posted by Mongerer88  [View Original Post]
    I booked two-hour sessions with the ladies I saw from Bangkok Gold Escorts. Many spoke excellent English, and the one who loved to talk the most spoke fluent English and was very fun. She told me that she got married to a guy from a Nordic Country, I think it was in fact Sweden, but she hated it. He went off to work every day and she thought everyone in the village was hateful toward her. She got divorced and returned to Bangkok and did escorting. I always figured the village women hated her because she was cute, young and Thai, but maybe there were more cultural things at play than I realized.
    I am not to familiar with Thai culture. Perhaps they are like the Spanish and Italians of Asia as far as how welcome and open they are to strangers. I have had business-related trips and traveled extensively through Spain and Italy. After a few beers, they will have their arm around you, asking when you will be back, and offering to show you around their hometown. Swedes not so much:

    https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20200328-how-to-self-isolate-what-we-can-learn-from-sweden

    Other commentators have pointed out the way many Swedes already behave when they’re outside in public spaces: it’s the norm to avoid sitting close to others on public transport and unusual to strike up small talk with strangers in shops or cafes.

    “As for social distancing, Swedes already have that down and naturally gave each other tons of physical space way before the coronavirus pandemic hit,” says Lola Akinmade Åkerström, an author on Swedish culture.

  13. #2342
    Quote Originally Posted by Paulie97  [View Original Post]
    Compare Sweden to their Nordic neighbors, which is most appropriate given the very similar demographics and logistics, and your whole thesis falls apart. That's given the much higher per capita death rates, for example Sweden 11 times that of Norway. Then you have many countries with widespread compliance with health measures, masks, social distancing, etc. Like Thailand, South Korea, and Taiwan that did extremely well at saving lives and your notion plummet even further. It still amazes me how far so many here go to keep repeating the same fallacies over and over even after they've comprehensively refuted at least 50 times already. It doesn't say much for the IQ of the average monger.

    https://www.logicalfallacies.org/arg...epetition.html
    Actually, comparing Sweden to ONLY Nordic countries dosent make sense on the mask and lockdown subject.

    As a fact Norway has less death per capita and that's a fact, so if we examine the reason for that fact by thinking it is because Masks and lockdowns, then all countries with mask and lockdown should have less death per capita comparing to Sweden which is not true ( Uk , France, Spain , Italy etc)

    So, the reason for Norway to have less death per capita comparing to Sweden is something else. Just like Why Germany has less death per capita than Italy and Belguim.

  14. #2341
    Quote Originally Posted by McAdonis  [View Original Post]
    Here are some Quora answers from 2016 to 2018 to the question "Why are Nordic people so cold and unwilling to have social relations especially with foreigners or with people they do not know?".

    TLDR, Nordic people aren't known to be "warm" towards people that they do not already know. https://www.quora.com/Why-are-Nordic...ey-do-not-know.
    I booked two-hour sessions with the ladies I saw from Bangkok Gold Escorts. Many spoke excellent English, and the one who loved to talk the most spoke fluent English and was very fun. She told me that she got married to a guy from a Nordic Country, I think it was in fact Sweden, but she hated it. He went off to work every day and she thought everyone in the village was hateful toward her. She got divorced and returned to Bangkok and did escorting. I always figured the village women hated her because she was cute, young and Thai, but maybe there were more cultural things at play than I realized.

  15. #2340
    Quote Originally Posted by Paulie97  [View Original Post]
    Compare Sweden to their Nordic neighbors, which is most appropriate given the very similar demographics and logistics, and your whole thesis falls apart. That's given the much higher per capita death rates, for example Sweden 11 times that of Norway.
    I would add cultural, social, and economic similarities to their Nordic neighbors as well. The harsh winters, which could last up to nine months, cultivated a people that is by nature socially distant and who maintain small social circles. This article dated March 28th offers insight into the Swedish culture and how it benefits them in the age of social distancing:

    While people around the world are climbing the walls due to coronavirus lockdowns and social distancing, 21-year-old Swede Cajsa Wiking is unfazed by the prospect of spending time alone in her one-bedroom apartment in Uppsala.

    “We are pretty good at staying home and aren't very social compared to other cultures...so that makes it easier for us,” she says. “I’m doing things like organising my closet, working out at home and I’m also reading more.”

    More than half of all Swedish homes are, like Wiking’s, made up of one resident, the highest proportion in Europe, according to Eurostat figures. The most common age to move out from your parents’ place is between 18 and 19, compared to an EU average of 26.

    Some experts believe that these living patterns might help stem the spread of coronavirus; in current hotspots for infections including Italy and Spain, it is – by contrast – much more common for large families to congregate under one roof..
    Here are some Quora answers from 2016 to 2018 to the question "Why are Nordic people so cold and unwilling to have social relations especially with foreigners or with people they do not know?".

    TLDR, Nordic people aren't known to be "warm" towards people that they do not already know. https://www.quora.com/Why-are-Nordic...ey-do-not-know.

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