Sao Paulo Reports

[The Cane]

I was in SP during the Thanksgiving week. I visited Scandallo and / or Connection every night. The 1-hour rate for a hot chic (8-9) with gfe services at these 2 clubs is 500 max. I did 1 chic at Scandallo for 300/ HR and 1 chic at Connection for 450/ HR at the clubs but their services were just so-so, not up to my gfe standard. I also did one chic from clubmodel at 500/hour but her service was not up to my gfe standard. If any chic wants more than 500, just bargain her down to 500 and if she doesn't budge, just walk away. There is absolutely no need to pay more than 500 per hour for 8-9 chics with gfe in SP. When I am in SP, I only do chics who are 8-9. They cost 1/10 of the rate in my hometown USA (1,000USD per hour for a 8-9 chic).

Given the current exchange rate, if you're trying to pull a top Scandallo girl for 500 reals, that's like $100. To be frank, you're low balling. No wonder what you're getting is so-so service as they're probably annoyed at you and look upon you as being kind of cheap. Just being honest. Now it's your money, but for an hourly toss, you should try sweetening the deal some. Paying more is no guarantee of better service, but constantly low balling sure isn't a winner either. You have to find the sweet spot for the joint you're working. Besides, your own advice doesn't even make any sense. You say no need to ever pay more than 500 reals for GFE in Sao Paulo, but then you yourself reported that you aren't getting GFE for what you're paying! So, which is it? Maybe you think that's how it "ought" to be. But your experience doesn't appear to bear that out according to your own words. I think you would be better off sticking with the clinicas for what you want to pay. But then, in my opinion, the clinica girls don't look as good. But, I did find their service to be good at much lower prices. And yeah, maybe you might do better with the Scandallo types by trying to arrange for something longer at an overall higher payout to them. But, as you have already seen, given the current exchange rate 500 reals for an hour isn't going to get you great service from a Scandallo hottie. I mean, look at it this way. When the exchange rate was 3 to 1, 500 reals was what the lower end of the Scandallo girls were accepting! You're going to need to up your game man, or search elsewhere, like at the clinicas. I'm just telling you how it is. You need to be ready to pay more in order to get a Scandallo hottie to bang your lights out (at Connection you can and should pay less than at Scandallo)!

[DiverOyster]

Approx $2200 USD.

A perfect storm of money saved from the quarantine, travel outside the USA, a way to blow off built up pressure and a once in a lifetime experience. Would I do it again more than likely not.

2,200 USD extremely well spent my friend. To put things into perspectives, when you are back in the US, a hot chic will quote you 1,000 USD for one hour and even at that exorbitant rate, her service / attitude still may not be GFE. In SP, I can get a chic equally hot with GFE service / attitude for 1/10 of the price, at $100 USD (500 reals) per hour. SP is a paradise for me.

[DiverOyster]

I was in SP during the Thanksgiving week. I visited Scandallo and / or Connection every night. The 1-hour rate for a hot chic (8-9) with gfe services at these 2 clubs is 500 max. I did 1 chic at Scandallo for 300/ HR and 1 chic at Connection for 450/ HR at the clubs but their services were just so-so, not up to my gfe standard. I also did one chic from clubmodel at 500/hour but her service was not up to my gfe standard. If any chic wants more than 500, just bargain her down to 500 and if she doesn't budge, just walk away. There is absolutely no need to pay more than 500 per hour for 8-9 chics with gfe in SP. When I am in SP, I only do chics who are 8-9. They cost 1/10 of the rate in my hometown USA (1,000USD per hour for a 8-9 chic).

The most cost effective approach at the clubs is to take WhatsApps of the hot chics and arrange for them to come to your place the next day. If they come to your place, the rate is still 500/hr. Some will want you to send Uber to pick them up and take them home after the session. Uber rate is so minimal in SP so who cares.

However, negotiation for a longer stay is more tricky. During my Thanksgiving trip, one Connection chic who spent several hours making out / dancing with me at the club with no charge came to my place after the club and stayed from around 5 am to around 9 am and was happy with 1,000. She could have stayed until noon for 1,300 but I was too sleepy so I sent her away.

Now I am preparing for my next SP trip from Christmas to the New Year weekend. I want to try a longer-stay arrangement to find out whether I will like it better than the hourly arrangement.

I inquired a few chics for their all-day (24-hour) rates. A hot Scandallo chic quoted me 2,000. A PA chic quoted 2,400. One clubmodel chic asked for 3,000. One SPLove chic asked for 3,000.

I am thinking maybe it's best to keep a chic for fun during the afternoon and go to dinner with her and then back to my place for more fun. Early AM, she can go back to her place to sleep and I will sleep alone. I will be too tired to do anything with her after certain hours anyway so there's no point to keep her overnight. I tend to sleep better alone anyway. So hypothetically, I will negotiate a 12-hour session. She comes to my place in the afternoon and stay 12 hours with me and I pay her 1,500. I think 1,500 is a good deal for a 12-hour stay.

I would love to receive thoughts from others who are more experienced with longer-term arrangement in SP.

Cheers. SP is a paradise on earth for young and beautiful pussies with GFE charm.

When I have time, I will do a comparison between SP and European FKKs in a separate post.

[Nuupter]

Approx $2200 USD.

A perfect storm of money saved from the quarantine, travel outside the USA, a way to blow off built up pressure and a once in a lifetime experience. Would I do it again more than likely not.

Damn, that is expensive. I assumed they stayed with you for 3 days?

[Anaggie]

Please share the name of the boate.

Sorry. I don't remember the name. Wasn't paying attention since I was too busy checking everything out. I was able to track down my last address for the Uber that evening though so I hope that helps.

https://goo.gl/maps/RsN7kbqaTeqF4ki76 are. Augusta, 792 - Cerqueira César, São Paulo. SP, 01304-001, Brazil.

[Anaggie]

Wow fantastic experience.

And out of curiosity how much did it cost you to be with them?

Approx $2200 USD.

A perfect storm of money saved from the quarantine, travel outside the USA, a way to blow off built up pressure and a once in a lifetime experience. Would I do it again — more than likely not.

[XXL]

In Brazil Uber has a cash option so you don't have to use a credit card. I always use my credit card but the option to use cash is available.

Yes luckily you can pay cash. However, the purpose of using a credit card is to avoid the hassle (and vicious circle) of carrying enough small change. How do you generate small change? By paying cash elsewhere, so you end using cash a lot more than you would.

Incidentally, Ueber in Brazil has a very bizarre feature in case drivers have no change. I tended a 50-R banknote to pay for a 10-R ride but the driver told me he had no change and I had better pay on the next ride! A very interesting clearing feature. As it happened though, when I called the next ride Ueber asked me "you still owe this amount, do you want to settle now?" I said yes and lo and behold, my credit card was accepted. In other words my credit card got through on the delayed payment. Right after that it was rejected again on the upfront payment for the next ride.

I don't know if this helps but contact your credit card company to let them know your in Brazil (authorized international transactions) and to make sure they didn't suspend your account due to a fraud alert (you card may have been skimmed). Also Uber required me to have two step authorization activated. I never had a issue with my card with Uber.

I've been using this card in Brazil for two and a half months now. Uber has also prompted me to install two-step authorization but without making it a requirement. What it often did until a couple of weeks ago was to send a verification SMS before the ride could begin. It did so quite often, at least every third ride. Now it has stopped doing so for whatever reason, maybe that's not a good sign. I'll be in Peru a week from now so I'm going to pay cash until then. Once in Peru I'll delete my account and start from scratch with my Peru number and another credit card. Even creating a new Uber account is tricky because from what I have read if you use the same phone number OR the same e-mail OR the same credit card Uber may block you. I understand the fraud issues but couldn't they have a real online customer service, at least for power users like me? They're still not profitable after all those years, no wonder if they estrange their best customers through kafkaesque practices.

I'm not too keen on the Uber gift card idea. What if I buy a gift card an Uber rejects it like it did my credit card?

[The Critic]

Ueber has started rejecting my credit card all of a sudden. It seems to be still working with Uebereats though. It also works 1 time out of 5 after I reenter it into the system. The alternative to Ueber in Brazil is Taxi 99 but it didn't work after I downloaded it. I see on the Google Play comments that it doesn't work with Android.

So if you come to Brazil bring a bevvy of credit cards to be sure to be able to use Ueber.

I don't know if this helps but contact your credit card company to let them know your in Brazil (authorized international transactions) and to make sure they didn't suspend your account due to a fraud alert (you card may have been skimmed). Also Uber required me to have two step authorization activated. I never had a issue with my card with Uber.

You can also use Uber cards if you don't want to use cash up front.
https://www.uber.com/br/en/gift-cards/
https://www.uber.com/br/en/business/...es/gift-cards/

[SoberHans69]

I can recommend Tecfit Jardins for EMS training. I paid just over 400 R for 4 sessions (1 session a week).

Thanks XXL, appreciate it.

[The Cane]

If you used your card somewhere other than Uber, it might have been skimmed. In fact I think the same thing happened to me. Uber suddenly rejected one of my cards this morning, and I had to switch to a backup card. I don't know if the first one will ever work again.

But this shit always happens in Brazil. In terms of how far international banks trust Brazil, it is in the bottom league along with North Korea and Somalia. And why? Because the sad truth is that Brazilian guys are always up to some unlikely scam: it doesn't have to work, it just has to be creative! Or uncreative, just as long as it's as a scam!

Traditionally we would avoid using electronic money at all in Brazil. This still leaves you with the problem of exchanging cash. The currency shops are playing harder this year. It's as if they don't like the fact that the Real has dropped so much in value, and they are trying to persuade themselves that it will come back.

I expect all this currency devaluation and pandeconomic hardship will just make Brazilians all the more willing to try new scams. Anybody seeing a rise in xenophobia? Hard times make people grumpy.

The only time I have ever used a credit card ever in Brazil has been to settle up my hotel bill (never had a problem). Other than that, it's been cash all the way baby! During my last trip, instead of bringing a bunch of cash with me, I just used ATMs that I considered to be safe (nothing on the street). I routinely checked my account for any funny business, and again no problems. Before I departed the USA, I alerted the bank that I would be traveling to Brazil (also key to not experiencing any issues).

[Polyamorist]

Ueber has started rejecting my credit card all of a sudden. It seems to be still working with Uebereats though. It also works 1 time out of 5 after I reenter it into the system. The alternative to Ueber in Brazil is Taxi 99 but it didn't work after I downloaded it. I see on the Google Play comments that it doesn't work with Android.

So if you come to Brazil bring a bevvy of credit cards to be sure to be able to use Ueber.

If you used your card somewhere other than Uber, it might have been skimmed. In fact I think the same thing happened to me. Uber suddenly rejected one of my cards this morning, and I had to switch to a backup card. I don't know if the first one will ever work again.

But this shit always happens in Brazil. In terms of how far international banks trust Brazil, it is in the bottom league along with North Korea and Somalia. And why? Because the sad truth is that Brazilian guys are always up to some unlikely scam: it doesn't have to work, it just has to be creative! Or uncreative, just as long as it's as a scam!

Traditionally we would avoid using electronic money at all in Brazil. This still leaves you with the problem of exchanging cash. The currency shops are playing harder this year. It's as if they don't like the fact that the Real has dropped so much in value, and they are trying to persuade themselves that it will come back.

I expect all this currency devaluation and pandeconomic hardship will just make Brazilians all the more willing to try new scams. Anybody seeing a rise in xenophobia? Hard times make people grumpy.

[Houston Player]

Ueber has started rejecting my credit card all of a sudden. It seems to be still working with Uebereats though. It also works 1 time out of 5 after I reenter it into the system. The alternative to Ueber in Brazil is Taxi 99 but it didn't work after I downloaded it. I see on the Google Play comments that it doesn't work with Android.

So if you come to Brazil bring a bevvy of credit cards to be sure to be able to use Ueber.

In Brazil Uber has a cash option so you don't have to use a credit card. I always use my credit card but the option to use cash is available.

[Nuupter]

I went to Love Story late, late, late one night on my first visit to Sao Paulo. Got drunk off my ass! Only the second time in all my trips to Brazil. It was only so-so, although I did leave with somebody. A lot of the girls who work in other clubs throughout the city would show up at Love Story late. I never felt compelled to go back. But glad I did it once. I can check it off my bucket list.

Ha, ok, I might go check it out when I'm in SP again. There are so many that I have not heard of, there is another called club impressau or something like that, all advertising on instagram.

[AndySana]

Weekend in So Paulo was well spent and now back home without catching COVID (shucks).

I had organized two redhead girls from different sites that were both bisexual and we were chatting together on WhatsApp for a week before meeting. I had written a post about this earlier with links to their pages.

Both girls met me for dinner on Friday evening at Jun Sakamoto and we enjoyed an amazing omakase meal. Girls drank 1. 5 bottles of wine and we took the remainder of the bottle back to the hotel. Staying at the Renaissance and I had booked a room with three guests and was able to get upgraded to a larger suite due to my status.

Once we went into the room and the girls got situated, it got exciting with each of us exploring the other and ultimately both girls enjoying each other while I was fucking one of them in doggy. After about two hours of this, I was exhausted and got ready to sleep. The girls played around a bit longer and then also fell asleep.

Saturday morning. Breakfast at the hotel lobby and then onward to the Mercado Municipal for some fruits that I crave but can't find in the USA and some pastel. One of the girls found a waitress she liked and got her info to try to invite her out with us at night. Went back to hotel for another couple of hours of playtime and then off to dinner and many caipirinhas at Fogo Do Chao.

While at dinner, we contacted the waitress to join us later in the night but she had to work early the next day and couldn't come out. Oh well. We tried. Drinks flowed freely and eventually we decided to head out for the night.

One of the girls took us to a boate near the restaurant and we tried our luck there but alas. Nothing could be found. Dead boate..

Thank you for this report; It made me jealous to be honest!

[PussyRiot]

One of the girls took us to a boate near the restaurant and we tried our luck there but alas. Nothing could be found. Dead boate.
Went to another place down the block and this place was better but it was early so we decided to hang out and see what talent comes in.

Please share the name of the boate.