Manila

[Pute Nut]

Of course there are patterns. And to ignore them would be asinine. I have been to over 100 countries and I am not prejudice against anyone. But it is impossible to ignore the traits. Every culture has certain general characteristics. If you can not see them then maybe you have been in the midst of them too long and can not see the forest because of the trees.

We generalize all the time, and it's OK. In fact it's a survival tool. Actually the very claim that those with a certain view of the PI are biased because of "too much underbelly interaction" in AC is, in fact, a generalization. Which is fully OK, that too. Perhaps there's something to that.

I have also lived in the PI and come across a wide range of IQs. Every country has its own distribution of IQ. The thing is the Philippines' average IQ is at least 10 points lower than most Western countries and more than 15 points below Japan, Korea etc. What we see in the Philippines is largely a result of that. When you're slipping below 80, it gets harder to run even a hot dog stand well, below 70 you cannot always even serve that hot dog properly to the buyer. With an average IQ a bit below 90 (or whatever it is now) Philippines will have an ample supply of below 80/70's.

Nothing wrong with that, but it will show in how the society works. This said I think the Filipinos are masters of working with whatever resources they have. And as for street smarts, most will win out over most westerners any day of the week.

[Mr Enternational]

I think it's perfectly fine to propose ideas like "Americans are getting fatter", "Filipinos are largely uneducated," or "women prefer people-oriented jobs" and assume your reader is intelligent enough and cooperative enough to figure out what you mean. In other words, that there seems to be a pattern.

Of course there are patterns. And to ignore them would be asinine. I have been to over 100 countries and I am not prejudice against anyone. But it is impossible to ignore the traits. Every culture has certain general characteristics. If you can not see them then maybe you have been in the midst of them too long and can not see the forest because of the trees.

You are not running off to do business in PI the same way you would do in UK. To say that the critical thinking skills in Germany are the same as those in PI would be plain dumb. What Fortune 500 company is running over to PI getting them to engineer products and processes? None.

But there are companies running over there with tasks they are good at: telling them to follow this step by step. Just make a call to one of the call centers with a problem that is not in that book. They will either transfer you to a person in your country or you will be SOL.

Since March I have been trying to get money or credit for back from Hotelsdotcom because of a covid cancelation. The call center is in PI and for 9 months everytime I call I have been told to wait 48 hours or wait 7 more days and I will be contacted. Nobody has contacted me yet. LOL.

[Pwrmnd]

I'll play Devil's advocate here. Yes, there's probably a trend towards exaggerating how consistently stereotypes apply across individuals. And I agree that statements to the effect that all Filipinas want or do or think X are wrong. If anyone says something like that, go ahead and call them out. But is that actually happening? Mostly people on this board are just sharing their thoughts and theories on patterns they have noticed within the specific group of people they have met in a specific area in a specific context (e. G. , bargirls in Angeles).

I think it's perfectly fine to propose ideas like "Americans are getting fatter", "Filipinos are largely uneducated," or "women prefer people-oriented jobs" and assume your reader is intelligent enough and cooperative enough to figure out what you mean. In other words, that there seems to be a pattern. We can then discuss whether its true and how broadly it applies. But if you are misreading that as a blanket statement about all people when that wasn't explicitly stated, then maybe you're the one with the problem (I. E. , lack of cooperativeness).

Do you really want board members to stick to bland statements that won't offend anyone, and end with pointless disclaimers like "Disclaimer: the opinions above are just my opinions. I could be wrong. I didn't not mean to offend. They are based on my experience. I have not met all Filipinos nor have I travelled to all parts of the country. When I say that I think there's a pattern, I don't mean that it applies to all individuals. I recognize that people differ and there are exceptions. ".

[Python75]

I have now lived and worked in this country for almost 20 years and have met an enormously diverse circle of people.......... Yet the many of those writing here, who purport to have profound insights into this country of 7,000 + islands, hundreds of cultures and more than 100 languages appear to have it all figured out. The fact that what you say is largely nonsense doesn't appear to matter.

Perhaps the most intelligent and insightful post I have read in a long time.

[D Cups]

I have now lived and worked in this country for almost 20 years and have met an enormously diverse circle of people. I have met and worked with subsistence farmers with little to no education, who struggle every day to put food on the table. I've worked with extremely intelligent and capable university professors who have earned their doctorates abroad; with engineers, with scientists, with doctors and nurses as smart and capable as any professionals I've ever known. I've worked with hugely successful business people and with those for whom operating a hot dog stand would be a challenge. I know enormously successful people here, and folks from the middle class, and those for whom life has not been kind, and throughout all of those years, and all of those experiences and acquaintances, I've yet to formulate a generalization that would accurately characterize the entire country. Yet the many of those writing here, who purport to have profound insights into this country of 7,000 + islands, hundreds of cultures and more than 100 languages appear to have it all figured out. The fact that what you say is largely nonsense doesn't appear to matter.

Excellent, GE. You have a wealth of experience there! Nevertheless, I have learned a tremendous amount of cultural insights, particularly the mind of the Pinay, from watching you-tubers especially a a lady named Filipins Pea.

[GoodEnough]

The worst offenders are those who have only met the underbelly of society on Burgos Street or in AC. They then generalize those experiences to the rest of the country.

I agree. Generalizing about an entire set of cultures and an entire country from random encounters with bar girls doesn't offer much in the way of insight.

[FuriousGeorge]

Most profound quote ever in the history of this board? Possibly. Either way, I can't wait to get to Burgos, Angeles, and perhaps retire in the country. The charm lies in the details here.

I have now lived and worked in this country for almost 20 years and have met an enormously diverse circle of people. I have met and worked with subsistence farmers with little to no education, who struggle every day to put food on the table. I've worked with extremely intelligent and capable university professors who have earned their doctorates abroad; with engineers, with scientists, with doctors and nurses as smart and capable as any professionals I've ever known. I've worked with hugely successful business people and with those for whom operating a hot dog stand would be a challenge. I know enormously successful people here, and folks from the middle class, and those for whom life has not been kind, and throughout all of those years, and all of those experiences and acquaintances, I've yet to formulate a generalization that would accurately characterize the entire country. Yet the many of those writing here, who purport to have profound insights into this country of 7,000 + islands, hundreds of cultures and more than 100 languages appear to have it all figured out. The fact that what you say is largely nonsense doesn't appear to matter.

[Kabul Guy]

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Yet the many of those writing here, who purport to have profound insights into this country of 7,000 + islands, hundreds of cultures and more than 100 languages appear to have it all figured out. The fact that what you say is largely nonsense doesn't appear to matter.

The worst offenders are those who have only met the underbelly of society on Burgos Street or in AC. They then generalize those experiences to the rest of the country.

[GoodEnough]

I have now lived and worked in this country for almost 20 years and have met an enormously diverse circle of people. I have met and worked with subsistence farmers with little to no education, who struggle every day to put food on the table. I've worked with extremely intelligent and capable university professors who have earned their doctorates abroad; with engineers, with scientists, with doctors and nurses as smart and capable as any professionals I've ever known. I've worked with hugely successful business people and with those for whom operating a hot dog stand would be a challenge. I know enormously successful people here, and folks from the middle class, and those for whom life has not been kind, and throughout all of those years, and all of those experiences and acquaintances, I've yet to formulate a generalization that would accurately characterize the entire country. Yet the many of those writing here, who purport to have profound insights into this country of 7,000 + islands, hundreds of cultures and more than 100 languages appear to have it all figured out. The fact that what you say is largely nonsense doesn't appear to matter.

[Mr Enternational]

Stop feeling guilty that you worked hard your whole life to earn what you have you earned it.

I wish I knew how these people were getting money so that I could get some too. Mine is not as easy to come by for me to be giving it out like that.

Some chick in Dominican Republic just tried to run a sob story on me that she is worried about not being able to go to school next semester because she does not have the money. I told her that I understood her pain. I had to stop going for 6 years when I didn't have the money. Hard times are a part of life and I am not trying to be anyone's savior. Shit, I didn't get one. I got it out the mud. I was eating hot dogs and ramen noodles everyday. Because of hard work and fortitude I am about to tear into this prime rib as I write.

[Sammon]

Agree. Let them work for the money at least a little bit. Even if it's for 5 or 8 minutes only, hehe.

I thought 3 min max was the norm LOL.

[Pute Nut]

Stop feeling guilty that you worked hard your whole life to earn what you have you earned it.

Hear, hear.

[Ekspat]

Stop sending cash.

Agree. Let them work for the money at least a little bit. Even if it's for 5 or 8 minutes only, hehe.

[Pinaypounder]

I have been playing this game for almost 20 years, sent money 1 time unsolicited and never even met the girl in person.

I have chatted and listened to a couple of thousand women easy maybe more over the years. I have employed (legitimately) maybe 50 over the decades so I know them, their culture, their values and their mannerisms.

I have met maybe 400 and of them 10 that are equal to a smart educated western woman, actually maybe 8.

They view money and earning differently than us. They are like Jackals at a kill on the Savanh. You, the lioness did the work and you will get the most of the meat but they will take whatever and however they can and they won't owe you and they won't feel guilty. After all it was right there for the taking.

I have had 5 real Filipina GFs in addition to the staff they (Filipinas) even do this to each other but all white men are considered rich by default.

They have changed over the last 20 years though now they are far more bold and far more cunning with far less conscience and a big part of this is idiots who send money for nothing. Stop feeling guilty that you worked hard your whole life to earn what you have you earned it.

Most are sadly only ever to be fuck toys and as I age I struggle more and more with this. So treat them well, don't lie and there are still good physical results to be obtained and a rare gem exists. Sadly understand your little head will do most of the thinking so you will indeed fuck up the chance with a rare gem, we from the west have been conditioned for this unfortunately.

So don't ever expect a return on your money and every dollar you send make it worse over there.

I respect prostitutes they actually earn their money because they have to actually do something real and of value. But some person asking for money that does not actually have to feel your cock is a con artist. The first time they get money for nothing is very addictive. They tell allllll of their friends and its not about your great qualities or handsome face its about your stupidity.

Stop sending cash.

Make them actually earn it when you are there! Cash senders are fucking up the women in the Philippines and this is my happy place.

PP.

[Turgid]

Once upon a time, mongers just flew into town like Georgie Pudding-Pie fucked the girls and made them cry. Then after they sprayed, the mongers ran away. Now, mongers are showing up at the airport with flowers, iPhones, marriage proposals, the deeds to houses, and funding for business start-ups.

The crazier American girls get the more you will see marriage minded men visiting the Philippines.