Lima

[Nounce]

I dunno, it's what I'm used to. I've only spent any length of time there and all the door people at trocodero recognise me and most chongos do if I stay there a few days.

Are you sure you have been to El Trocadero that used to be a prison? There is no reason to visit that place more than once that door people will recognize you. I don't think there is any door people there like other chongos.

FThe main thing that scares me about Colombia (and what I like about Peru. And Ecuador when I finally get there) is that there is a safe environment where you can have cheap sex. I am scared shitless about going to Santa Fe in Bogota or Centro in Medellin, having to negotiate with a woman on the street and follow her to a dodgy hotel. However I feel very safe going to 90% of chongos in Peru and having sex on the premises, something I've done hundreds of times.

There are plenty of places like chongos in Medellin or Bogota. You can go to strip clubs, casas or MPs.

[Mr Enternational]

I've messaged quite a few online escorts on whatsapp in Lima already. Trolls all of them it seems. Conversation dies as soon as I propose we meet,

What is the purpose of that BS?

[Mr Enternational]

Someone wrote on this forum a while back that criminals pray on the trunks of taxis and get to tourist's suitcases in these less safe areas.

I know a chick in Lima that sells clothes. She had just used all her money to get a new stock. When she got to where she was going and got out, the taxi driver drove off with all her shit in the trunk. And that is why I keep my valuable shit in a bag at my side whenever I am in any taxi.

(Chick I know in Atlanta had Uber do her the same way. Dropped her off and sped away with all her dirty underwear in the trunk. I also leave the door open until I have my suitcase out of the trunk.)

Even in the nice little city of Piura, the gateway to the Mancora beach area, the hotel rooms and meals are double the price of similar Latin American cities and more expensive than even some American cities which is crazy.

That place sux. But I do understand that it is the best of what they have to work with, so to them it is a good place. Damn sure ain't no Punta Cana or Cancun. It is like a Miraflores with sand instead of rocks. The water is just as cold and just as murky. I was glad I did not lug my scuba gear to that place.

[XXL]

Let's say you get the vaccine, and you go to Lima. Practically no one is going there because it has a higher per capita number of Covid cases than anywhere else, so your competition should be close to nil, but it is not the bargain it should be because of the hotel and food costs.

I've messaged quite a few online escorts on whatsapp in Lima already. Trolls all of them it seems. Conversation dies as soon as I propose we meet, and my Spanish is undistinguishable from the locals' for practical purposes.

Yes, everyone are broke here. Even as I write, people (including some doable women) are queuing in their hundreds for government handouts in front of the Banco de la Nacion in Miraflores. Yet no women seem interested in my money. Go figure.

When in Brazil I used to send pics of my Brazilian fucklets to my Peruvian friend. He was fascinated and asked me how much I paid them. I told him. He then said "I should travel to Brazil too". Not a good sign as far as Peru was concerned.

Bottom line: you should never assume a mongering country is like it used to be, or like it should be on sheer grounds of economics.

[Elvis 2008]

The food in the culinary mecca is twice the price of food in Brazil right now, all things equal. As I pay restaurants by credit card I only need to look at my credit card reports. All amounts are roughly double compared to what I was spending in Sao Paulo. Real restaurants still functioning, as opposed to fast food outlets, are thin on the ground.

Safety, at least from mugging, might not be great in Peru right now. My Peru contact has convinced me to buy a cheap Smartphone with a secondary SIM for whenever I venture further afield so than my main Smartphone can stay at the hotel. This is the first time I do this but I may stick to the practice on future mongering trips. Uber and taxi apps may be less safe in Peru than in Brazil because in Peru many drivers refuse payment by credit card and credit cards contribute (I think) to traceability.

It is true that Miraflores is safe. Cameras are everwhere.

Vivanda supermarket here systematically swipe customers' credit cards. Swiping is unsafe for the credit card holder. I really think credit card companies should put their foot down on this. Never had my card swiped in Brazil.

XXL, [Deleted by Admin]

I get that Jockey has a vested interest in mongers coming to Peru but when he told people here that they could come to Peru over cheaper countries by staying in youth hostels and hitch hiking, my jaw dropped.

By the way, did you know there is no Covid in Peru and the word gullible is not in the dictionary? Sorry, I could not help myself.

You are right that the places where there are working women is where the crime is. That is why saying Miraflores is ultra safe is not being totally truthful. Mongers have to leave Miraflores, and you cannot get to Miraflores from the airport without going through crime ridden areas. Someone wrote on this forum a while back that criminals pray on the trunks of taxis and get to tourist's suitcases in these less safe areas.

There is actually a website where you can compare crime rates. The surprise to me on the crime rates was not that Santiago and Asuncion were safer than Lima, but that Mexico City and Bogota were. Here is a link: https://www.numbeo.com/crime/compare...o&city2=Mexico+City.

The proximity to the Pacific makes Lima a great place for seafood and the fusion of Latin and Asian cuisines made Lima the hottest foodie place in the world for a while, but I think people are confusing the hottest with the best. I see cevicherias popping all over now, but Peru often does not get the credit it is due with ceviche. In contrast when you go to the best steakhouses in Lima, they advertise Argentine, Uruguayan, and even American beef.

And varied and cheap? Oh hell no. Lima is not just double the price of Sao Paulo. It is double the price of everyone else I have been in Latin America save for Chile, and the hotels are the same steep price as the food. I do not know why but the transportation costs in Peru are just as cheap as their neighbors.

In the USA sex prison, the cost of a hotel room and meal can vary by city, but that is not the case with Peru. Even in the nice little city of Piura, the gateway to the Mancora beach area, the hotel rooms and meals are double the price of similar Latin American cities and more expensive than even some American cities which is crazy.

If you want gambling, it is there, but it is not a reason to go. Lima is no Vegas.

The mongering I had in Brazil in the past 3 months was one of my best mongering on record, and that was during Covid. I can't imagine what mongering must be in Brazil in non-Covid times. It probably beats even the German FKKs at their peaks.

That is the only part of your great and real post XXL that I disagree with. Covid has forced many of the hottest women to the street and mongering is way better now than it was pre-Covid, and the most desperate of these women are the best looking ones in Lima, the Vennie refugees.

Let's say you get the vaccine, and you go to Lima. Practically no one is going there because it has a higher per capita number of Covid cases than anywhere else, so your competition should be close to nil, but it is not the bargain it should be because of the hotel and food costs.

The other part is that I have not seen the drop dead gorgeous Vennies in Peru. I have in Mexico and Colombia but not in Peru, and I do not know why. There are millions of Vennie refugees there.

[DownUnderMonger]

Wow this strikes me as odd coming from you. You went to all the Peru chongos on your own. Some guys don't even risk that.

I say if you can handle El Trocadero on your own you are fine in MDE centro. You do need to watch your back but that is a given in any mongering location.

I dunno, it's what I'm used to. I've only spent any length of time there and all the door people at trocodero recognise me and most chongos do if I stay there a few days.

I just got. Comfortable LOL.

I'm comfortable at a chongo as you see what you get, you know what a girls room looks like before you agree to see her. SWs, with having to find a hotel / short-time room etc, is kinda scarey. SWs everywhere, even in a first world country scares me. I've been robbed with SWs in both Australia and the UK. I've never felt unsafe in a chongo.

[Artisttyp]

I am scared shitless about going to Santa Fe in Bogota or Centro in Medellin, having to negotiate with a woman on the street and follow her to a dodgy hotel. However I feel very safe going to 90% of chongos in Peru and having sex on the premises, something I've done hundreds of times.

If someone can suggest a safe way to do it in Medellin, I'm all ears, but I'm too weary reading stories of being drugged, boyfriends walking in and blackmailing/threatening violence, holes / doors in the wall where people can steal your items, etc. All this stuff does NOT happen in a chongo in Peru, but does happen when dealing with street girls anywhere in the world (same stories around SW in Tijuana etc).

Wow this strikes me as odd coming from you. You went to all the Peru chongos on your own. Some guys don't even risk that.

I say if you can handle El Trocadero on your own you are fine in MDE centro. You do need to watch your back but that is a given in any mongering location.

[XXL]

I've had 2 relatives from Australia killed in Brazil on short holidays from robberies. One was shot, the other died when a snatch and grab went wrong and he smashed his head on the footpath when a thief on a motorbike grabbed his bag, went into a coma and never recovered.

If I'm shit scared of Centro in Medellin, there is no fucking way I'm stepping foot anywhere in Brazil.

Safety, at least from mugging, might not be great in Peru right now. My Peru contact has convinced me to buy a cheap Smartphone with a secondary SIM for whenever I venture further afield so than my main Smartphone can stay at the hotel. This is the first time I do this but I may stick to the practice on future mongering trips. Uber and taxi apps may be less safe in Peru than in Brazil because in Peru many drivers refuse payment by credit card and credit cards contribute (I think) to traceability.

It is true that Miraflores is safe. Cameras are everwhere. My Peru friend was even scared of disposing of some garbage in a garbage can that didn't belong to where I was staying, lest we could be traced and fined. This has come at a price in terms of nightlife. Calle de las pizzas was closed, allegedly because of prostitution and other illegal activities. Now even back in Fujimori's days Calle de las Pizzas was already no longer a hotbed of sin. The intolerance threshold of local authorities here must have been very low to close such a politically correct venue. If you search for escorts online you will find none advertising Miraflores as their base. Plenty in the far-away and insignificant district of "San Juan de Miraflores" though. I'm quite sure the escorts want clients to understand this means Miraflores. Escorts would probably be breaking the law if they were seen as working from Miraflores because Miraflores is, you see, the cleanest place on Earth. As a result Miraflores' nightlife is deader than Monthy Python's dead parrot.

Vivanda supermarket here systematically swipe customers' credit cards. Swiping is unsafe for the credit card holder. I really think credit card companies should put their foot down on this. Never had my card swiped in Brazil.

The mongering I had in Brazil in the past 3 months was one of my best mongering on record, and that was during Covid. I can't imagine what mongering must be in Brazil in non-Covid times. It probably beats even the German FKKs at their peaks.

[Xpartan]

The food in the culinary mecca is twice the price of food in Brazil right now, all things equal. As I pay restaurants by credit card I only need to look at my credit card reports. All amounts are roughly double compared to what I was spending in Sao Paulo. Real restaurants still functioning, as opposed to fast food outlets, are thin on the ground. Also, Sao Paulo supermarkets put puny Vivanda & co in the shade in terms of quality and quantity.

Sao Paulo hotels had reduced "Covid" breakfasts but in Lima breakfast have undergone a further reduction. Scrambled eggs without cheese or ham, coffee without optional milk, butter only no jam for your bread. Reminds me of the scrimpy breakfasts they served in African hotels pre-Covid.

I can confirm the betting shops and casinos are up and running in Lima. It seems to be the last kind of business they want to restrict here.

That's a shame. Hopefully, Lima will come back when this nightmare is over.

[DownUnderMonger]

Also I think if you stay in Mira Flores then you are also in the safest place in Latin America.

Safety is very important to me as a gambler. I felt very safe walking the few blocks from the Casino on a night out.

Last thing I want to do coming out of a casino is get in a cab.

[DownUnderMonger]

The food in the culinary mecca is twice the price of food in Brazil right now.

I've had 2 relatives from Australia killed in Brazil on short holidays from robberies. One was shot, the other died when a snatch and grab went wrong and he smashed his head on the footpath when a thief on a motorbike grabbed his bag, went into a coma and never recovered.

If I'm shit scared of Centro in Medellin, there is no fucking way I'm stepping foot anywhere in Brazil.

[XXL]

Yep, Lima's probably the cheapest and most diverse culinary mecca in the world. It's a shame people only treat it as a stepping stone to Machu Picchu (which I'd nominate for the worst food in Latin America).

The food in the culinary mecca is twice the price of food in Brazil right now, all things equal. As I pay restaurants by credit card I only need to look at my credit card reports. All amounts are roughly double compared to what I was spending in Sao Paulo. Real restaurants still functioning, as opposed to fast food outlets, are thin on the ground. Also, Sao Paulo supermarkets put puny Vivanda & co in the shade in terms of quality and quantity.

Sao Paulo hotels had reduced "Covid" breakfasts but in Lima breakfast have undergone a further reduction. Scrambled eggs without cheese or ham, coffee without optional milk, butter only no jam for your bread. Reminds me of the scrimpy breakfasts they served in African hotels pre-Covid.

I can confirm the betting shops and casinos are up and running in Lima. It seems to be the last kind of business they want to restrict here.

[Xpartan]

Lima is a great place to visit. Much more to do than just looking for cheap pussy. The food there is the best in Latin America.

Yep, Lima's probably the cheapest and most diverse culinary mecca in the world. It's a shame people only treat it as a stepping stone to Machu Picchu (which I'd nominate for the worst food in Latin America).

[Jockey16]

The Atlantic City Casino has a BetCRIS Simulcasting on the second floor.

Unfortunately it appears that is still closed.

Atlantic City Casino.

Av. Alfredo Benavides 430.

Closed ⋅ Opens 11 AM Sun.

Dine-in.

Thanks! I just looked it up on google, and I walked past it a bunch of times but I didn't know it had a sports book in it.

[NRandom940]

Lima is a great place to visit. Much more to do than just looking for cheap pussy. The food there is the best in Latin America. For guys like me who gambol then you have casinos and sport books and if you want they even have a horse track.

Also I think if you stay in Mira Flores then you are also in the safest place in Latin America.

But hey want do I know? I have been only going there since 2007.

Only bad part is the traffic.